Pyra and Mythra are STUPID

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  • @Choctopus
    @Choctopus  3 ปีที่แล้ว +586

    Who do you like better, Pyra or Mythra (or both)?
    Closing in on 300K fast. Thanks, all! 🥳🥳🥳

    • @雪者
      @雪者 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      *Uh... both?*

    • @gammax0516
      @gammax0516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Mr Choctopus I prefer none of the above :)

    • @shadowbonbon3
      @shadowbonbon3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Duh
      Garfield

    • @saltkeeper44
      @saltkeeper44 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      As a character?

    • @asbjrnbartnes7297
      @asbjrnbartnes7297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Pyra

  • @MrBurningRadio
    @MrBurningRadio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1604

    I like how most people are saying: “Don’t use the color switch alt, its a scummy way to trick your opponent.” and Choc is saying: “Don’t use the color switch alt, you might trick yourself.”

    • @neok1yte494
      @neok1yte494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Lol just Short hair or long hair

    • @loganmiller7827
      @loganmiller7827 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      I don't have the dlc but I was watching the presentation being like using it to confuse the opponent implies that I wouldn't also be confused by which character I'm on

    • @darkbwdee8105
      @darkbwdee8105 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      fact:This comment IS the first thing i did With pyra and Mythra

    • @alenor210
      @alenor210 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Just look at the sword colors. Pretty sure the swords stay the same color to avoid this exact issue

    • @darkbwdee8105
      @darkbwdee8105 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@alenor210 yes the sword stays the same color

  • @tydresen3905
    @tydresen3905 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1402

    I love that you can combo as sword sheik and then swap to ganondorf whenever you want.

    • @petery6432
      @petery6432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      Except that Ganondorf wields their sword full time.

    • @TimBagels
      @TimBagels 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      That do be what it feels like yeah. Ganon was already on my rotation, so I'm pretty thrilled

    • @frisolaxod3835
      @frisolaxod3835 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Basically Sword Sheik/Zelda except actually done right

    • @sspectre8217
      @sspectre8217 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@frisolaxod3835 pretty much, yes

    • @FelipeKana1
      @FelipeKana1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yeah the red one is insanely strong while the other is insanely fast. Its a free arsene whenever you want, and palu nair combos when you don't

  • @WolfishMule
    @WolfishMule 3 ปีที่แล้ว +931

    Smash dlc characters going from biggest arms, to biggest game, biggest sword then biggest boobs: Parkour!

    • @Pmf95k
      @Pmf95k 3 ปีที่แล้ว +153

      Can’t wait for them to add the Biggest Chungus into smash

    • @drecknathmagladery9118
      @drecknathmagladery9118 3 ปีที่แล้ว +148

      i discovered they have jiggle physics
      they are the only characters in smash to have it and its glorious

    • @crudalicious
      @crudalicious 3 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      @@drecknathmagladery9118 using that knowledge i am currently typing with my left hand

    • @omarpikm2101
      @omarpikm2101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Dr. Eggman gonna be the one with biggest stomach and Danny Devito gonna be the biggest schlong

    • @Rytex-nh7pm
      @Rytex-nh7pm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@drecknathmagladery9118 and they have the most detailed character

  • @ChxiMusic
    @ChxiMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +472

    9:28 “It’s gonna be like playing against waifu Mario.”
    wow.

    • @omarpikm2101
      @omarpikm2101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Egg salad

    • @sushiboxx503
      @sushiboxx503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@omarpikm2101 Macaroni salad

    • @omarpikm2101
      @omarpikm2101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      warioeo

    • @kylethompson4543
      @kylethompson4543 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Arya Choudhury After looking at the patch notes, my condolences for your loss...

    • @liamdalemon1525
      @liamdalemon1525 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just thought of a concept for anime Mario Bros, or to be more accurate, the Mario & Luigi series Mario Bros. They would work like the ice climbers, they would have attacks more focused around fire and lightning and hammers, and their specials would be Bros attacks. Up special would be bounce Bros, side special would be cyclone Bros, down special would kick a shell and natural special would have Mario and Luigi use fire band and thunder band together. Final smash would have Luigi suck an opponent into the dream world which would transport the victim into a Cutscene where they would get barraged with Luiginary attacks. I know it wouldn't work considering Mario and Luigi are already in the game but hey we have Mario and Dr Mario as well as 3 versions of Samus so it's not completely stupid... Okay it kind of is but it would still be cool!

  • @generalbutterscotch4887
    @generalbutterscotch4887 3 ปีที่แล้ว +693

    Pyra: _"Am I cute?"_
    Me : *sees her F-Smash* _"You're cute in an intense way."_

    • @3twibles4sweetrevenge
      @3twibles4sweetrevenge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I'm hungry but there's nothing to eat '-'

    • @3twibles4sweetrevenge
      @3twibles4sweetrevenge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @Austin Igert i ate bread twice yesterday, but guess i'll just do it again

    • @mccrock2820
      @mccrock2820 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@3twibles4sweetrevenge I know that feeling bro F

    • @cold-bloodedbeats4139
      @cold-bloodedbeats4139 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@3twibles4sweetrevenge Damn bro. You want a McRib?

    • @iambread2914
      @iambread2914 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Austin Igert no please dont

  • @aigoorng9320
    @aigoorng9320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +296

    The salty death of alternating between Pyra and Mythra seems optimal and toxic at the same time

    • @ArtseyHayton06
      @ArtseyHayton06 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I see nothing wrong with it.

    • @Dig_Duke_SFM
      @Dig_Duke_SFM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I already fought a toxic pyra mythra, everytime they took a stock, they'd t-bag combo into down B switching them like crazy. 👍

    • @gigachadmemes4727
      @gigachadmemes4727 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Dig_Duke_SFM that’s tough my brother good lubk getting that GSP!! BTW I have Nintendo memes on my TH-cam. Channel

  • @cjlite0210
    @cjlite0210 3 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    When playing against Pyra, you start at kill percent

    • @firenze6478
      @firenze6478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      She’s not even that strong canonically.
      You can tell Sakurai favors her

    • @themustardman219
      @themustardman219 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@firenze6478 He did say "I prefer Pyra (for her combat ability, of course)"

    • @firenze6478
      @firenze6478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@themustardman219 and I’m saying that in the game she’s from shes not exactly strong, her having the strongest f smash in the game makes zero sense.

    • @themustardman219
      @themustardman219 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@firenze6478 Just roll with it

  • @Tripledeluxer
    @Tripledeluxer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +174

    "There seems to be too much endlag on the downtilt"
    Mythra : "and i took that personally"

    • @middlelevelrucksack7693
      @middlelevelrucksack7693 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow, her recovery is GARBAGE. it looks like little mac with a sword. Good God in heaven it's bad

    • @theinternetsightseer2935
      @theinternetsightseer2935 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@middlelevelrucksack7693 Still better than 1/2 the cast.

    • @middlelevelrucksack7693
      @middlelevelrucksack7693 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pointzero4733 Even MYTHRA looks like her recovery is only SLIGHTLY better than little Mac

    • @cesarTorres-lj1df
      @cesarTorres-lj1df 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@middlelevelrucksack7693 what, her recovery is far away better than little mac

    • @middlelevelrucksack7693
      @middlelevelrucksack7693 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cesarTorres-lj1df I'm sorry, I'm a Kirby/Mac main so I only know the two extremes of recovery. If it ain't Kirby recovery, it ain't good recovery

  • @notadog8662
    @notadog8662 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    "chaining d-tilt into nair might be the way to go"
    oh no, oh no no no no no, it's palutena, oh nonnononononononono

    • @rouge-ish324
      @rouge-ish324 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      that's more of a pit thing

  • @Flopposite
    @Flopposite 3 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    my friend kept getting me with the pyra ledgeguard, i almost threw my switch

    • @underdrow5572
      @underdrow5572 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I love using that to edgeguard people.

    • @hackrdonut8194
      @hackrdonut8194 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Me and my friend were testing them last night and he kept using Chroma Dust to edgeguard me.

    • @xellanchaos5386
      @xellanchaos5386 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Mythra's Photon Edge is the best ledgeguard, in my opinion.

    • @underdrow5572
      @underdrow5572 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I was talking about Pyra's side B

    • @kiwifluorite
      @kiwifluorite 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      as a game and watch main it makes me want to rip *their* switch in half

  • @jonathanflanagan1504
    @jonathanflanagan1504 3 ปีที่แล้ว +617

    I can't believe they made a move that's more extra than Sephiroth's Octaslash...
    EDIT: This comment now has the most internet points of any comment I've made, which is funny, because I was literally thinking to myself about another comment I made that used to hold that record, while I was making this comment.

    • @BobOnACob123
      @BobOnACob123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      And one that will be spammed even more than octaslash

    • @lazypaladin
      @lazypaladin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Imagine just playing with a friend and you open the game with that move. *Sht your pants level of intimidation!*

    • @lucasdellamaggiore
      @lucasdellamaggiore 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@BobOnACob123 That's honestly the best move between the both of them, i got 9.9 in classic mode by mainly spamming it

    • @remmy626
      @remmy626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@lucasdellamaggiore my favorite special in the game.

    • @BLOODLUSST666
      @BLOODLUSST666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Needed more fast slash attacks in here. NOW WHERE ARE THE NEW BOSSES AND BOSS RUSH MODE. EVEN A NEW SMASH RUN WOULD SUFFICE.

  • @OrangeToadGamer
    @OrangeToadGamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    Can't wait to see how the Meta for these 2 evolves

    • @Paint6370
      @Paint6370 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The meta seems to be mythra down tilt since that move combos FOREVER

    • @McFryGuy_
      @McFryGuy_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m Both Excited And Scared

    • @Paint6370
      @Paint6370 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@McFryGuy_ Once people learn how to combo mythra down tilt into a pyra move is when we should get scared

    • @Dig_Duke_SFM
      @Dig_Duke_SFM 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It won't.

    • @loomingdeath1758
      @loomingdeath1758 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      there a meta for smash O_o yall need a life...fucking nerds (-rubs my pictures of pyra and mythra they wont judge you)

  • @jamesroundy4559
    @jamesroundy4559 3 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Tbh, these guys are the first DLC characters since Joker, that feel decidedly top tier.

    • @Big_Bad_Gammon
      @Big_Bad_Gammon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Steve was pretty good, and Sephiroth.

    • @Ryan_vdp
      @Ryan_vdp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Big_Bad_Gammon exactly this

    • @wee-ba-noob5740
      @wee-ba-noob5740 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Big_Bad_Gammon
      Don't forget Terry

    • @ianhamilton9600
      @ianhamilton9600 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Didn’t people find like 4 0 to death combos in like the first hour of Steve coming out that start with super low commitment attacks like jab or up tilt?

    • @jokarsen3858
      @jokarsen3858 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Big_Bad_Gammon I truly don’t understand how sephiroth is supposedly top tier ? This guy is so slow in most of his attacks. Can you explain why ?

  • @aerospherology2001
    @aerospherology2001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Fun fact: Pyra's codename is flame, Mythra's is light, and combined is element.

    • @Yosssssssss
      @Yosssssssss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Well it's cus pyra is Greek for Flame and Mythra is Greek for Light. One more fun fact. In the jp version Pura us called Homura which means flame in Japanese and Mythra is called Hikari which means Light in Japanese. Really like these small details they put in the original.

    • @JoeThomas-lu6fy
      @JoeThomas-lu6fy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Yosssssssss Greek for light is Phos, not Mythra.

  • @softie64
    @softie64 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    pyra: spam smash attacks
    mythra: JUMPY GURL

    • @helmsman8045
      @helmsman8045 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      pyra: now you must die
      mythra: I am speed

  • @betaflame3418
    @betaflame3418 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I feel like Pyra and Mythra are similar to Pokemon trainer. Just without Bulbasaur. For example, Mythra is like Squirtle, a speedy approach character that has good horizontal recovery. Then Pyra is like Charaizrd without a flame blitz. In that same sense, Mythra puts in the damage early on and then Pyra comes in and kills you at 50 with one smash attack.

  • @marquito2863
    @marquito2863 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Fun fact: Pyra's utilt kills at 120%

    • @NVRSE500
      @NVRSE500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Fun fact: pyra's fsmash kills at 60

    • @TheAetherleaf
      @TheAetherleaf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@NVRSE500 Fun Fact: Pyra fully charged fsmash kills at 20

  • @mememachine9810
    @mememachine9810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Fun fact about Mythras neutral special: You can b reverse it twice, once for the charge and another right before the attack

    • @sirspookybones1118
      @sirspookybones1118 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I found that out earlier against a friend
      He wasnt very happy

    • @pastasuace4762
      @pastasuace4762 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sirspookybones1118 your freind should’ve won

  • @howardyates4848
    @howardyates4848 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Everybody gangsta until the anime sword fighter starts floating.

  • @Twag7
    @Twag7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Finally. A 2nd character with a competetively optimal alt to bamboozle your opponents. Sakurai didn't bring up Ice Climbers in the direct as a coincidence.

  • @navo6283
    @navo6283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    "Waifu Mario"
    I blew hot ramen out of my nose. XD

  • @Dip7man
    @Dip7man 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I didn’t expect anyone to upload at this time

  • @CursedMoistMan690
    @CursedMoistMan690 3 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    Found a combo for mythra at 0% i want to share: Down tilt, up tilt,Up B (not held) for 25%

    • @71cyber87
      @71cyber87 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @Luke Sinclair yes, true until around 40%

    • @spiggly_digg
      @spiggly_digg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Man I can't believe I didn't think of that. It seems so obvious, nice one

    • @ker7339
      @ker7339 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, but not optimal at 0. You'll mostly want to do Dtilt, Nair, Utilt, Nair, UpB for a 36% combo. There's also Down-Throw, Fair, Up-B. And Triple Back air into UpB. There's actually so much combos with bair and UpB...

    • @Dig_Duke_SFM
      @Dig_Duke_SFM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@71cyber87 so broken

    • @davidrosenberg9615
      @davidrosenberg9615 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's not as good as that, but I've been using Side B for about 20%.

  • @paangwin
    @paangwin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love projectiles that are large and fast that rapidly hit you for a solid ten seconds that do 20%

  • @dominickf6095
    @dominickf6095 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I want to see who is the first person to find the 0 to death on DK

    • @sebgmp5687
      @sebgmp5687 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Probably alpha

    • @xellanchaos5386
      @xellanchaos5386 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      All three stocks, or just for one stock? Sorry, just kinda new to terms.

    • @sebgmp5687
      @sebgmp5687 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@xellanchaos5386 0 to death refers to take a stock with one combo (for example: Byleth vs DK), obviously, you can repeat the process in all the three stocks.

    • @mr.binziebee2309
      @mr.binziebee2309 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah, it’s not a real dlc character if they can’t 0 to death DK! lol

    • @ker7339
      @ker7339 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I kinda found one, but it's probably not true. Dtilt -> SH Fair -> Utilt -> Utilt -> SH Nair -> SH Fair -> SH Fair -> UpB (Chroma Dust, not Ray of Punishment). You can remove an Utilt, but you can also finish it with a Neutral-B instead (once again, I don't think it's true)

  • @Qolboqan
    @Qolboqan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    "Prominence Revol-AaAhHh!!"

  • @lexfiles721
    @lexfiles721 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Even though I haven't played the games, Pyra & Mythra are slowly becoming one of my mains. I just need to get a strategy down on how to use them.

    • @BakiX
      @BakiX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Light jump and press A.

  • @nookmiles1895
    @nookmiles1895 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Here's how I think you should react to fighting these characters:
    Pyra: Get a fast character and camp, Pyra's slower than Bowser. Not sure how that's possible but it is.
    Mythra: fall off the stage, you have no hope of escape.

  • @chompchomp8759
    @chompchomp8759 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Pyra's win screen has jiggle physics

    • @arthur_here2741
      @arthur_here2741 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      They both have jiggle physics with everything

  • @meta9492
    @meta9492 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Everyone says that pyras f smash is too strong and kills too early but king dedede’s f smash kills at 3% fully charged

    • @daboyz2374
      @daboyz2374 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can charge it!?

    • @brunofelixx2110
      @brunofelixx2110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@daboyz2374 wait... you didn't know?

    • @daboyz2374
      @daboyz2374 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@brunofelixx2110 I probably didn’t play him enough

    • @david_8916
      @david_8916 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@daboyz2374 bruh you can charge every smash atack in the game

    • @daboyz2374
      @daboyz2374 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@david_8916 I know you can for most fighters I’m talking specifically King Dedede

  • @lightray9264
    @lightray9264 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    “I prefer the power over the speed”
    Yeah not a big surprise there

  • @phantomlotus
    @phantomlotus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    They're probably one of the funnest characters I played from most of the dlc characters that released

    • @sirspookybones1118
      @sirspookybones1118 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The most fun I've had with DLC are Steve and Pyra/mythra so I'm in agreement

    • @jeremy8473
      @jeremy8473 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Except when you're fighting them, then you have to suffer through Pyra's side b spam.

    • @acekingdom5050
      @acekingdom5050 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just got them yesterday, and now I’m already thinking of switching my main from Palutena to Pythra

  • @littlemacisunderrated412
    @littlemacisunderrated412 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I’m starting to think if little Mac was released now he would be considered broken.

    • @skyblade7438
      @skyblade7438 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tbf, he was considered pretty strong at first in Smash 4. Then people started fighting him on something that wasn't FD.

    • @theblackoutexplorer2658
      @theblackoutexplorer2658 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      *if I’m on a stage with no ledge ya sure* I trick my friends into a winner picks the stage rule and all I had too do was win one match from then on little mac on the boxing stage non stop win streak. *until I changed the stage too prove a point* I WAS GONNA WIN THAT MATCH but got killed via bs gapping on the Spirit tracks stage.

    • @9tailjeza
      @9tailjeza 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      byleth for example, everyone immedietely knew was mid tier at best

  • @Cri_Jackal
    @Cri_Jackal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    That feel when stance change is a crossup

  • @MfwPrivate
    @MfwPrivate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Oh well, i gotta wait until my switch restarts working again

  • @danquaza9275
    @danquaza9275 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I’ve already seen one really cool switch combo.. however it definitely wasn’t true, and it looked verrrrryyyy situational

  • @IronSmasher1024
    @IronSmasher1024 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Best DLC Ever

    • @FROGDUDESPOND
      @FROGDUDESPOND 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not

    • @biglssb
      @biglssb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FROGDUDESPOND I thank banjo is the best just because it was my child hood

    • @jockvbdeutschland2107
      @jockvbdeutschland2107 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@FROGDUDESPOND just let him have his fun dude, don't be an ass about it

    • @IronSmasher1024
      @IronSmasher1024 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@FROGDUDESPOND No Hoes Please

    • @WolfishMule
      @WolfishMule 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You don’t need to force your opinion on him. Don’t be a ass.

  • @blobface103
    @blobface103 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I didn't know who this character was because I have not played their game, but they look very fun to play.

    • @Yosssssssss
      @Yosssssssss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I recommend playing their game Xenoblade Chronicles 2. Though it wasn't advertised great, but for me it's a really great game. It has a great story, good music and good characters.

    • @zakabouelfaioud7653
      @zakabouelfaioud7653 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Watch Chuggaconroy's lets play if you want to see more of them

    • @PochotheEntity
      @PochotheEntity 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely play this game. Very good in a lot of ways. Has flaws but overall it’s become one of my favorite switch games

  • @Huanchee
    @Huanchee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    *also, while everyone excited for pyra/mythra, I'm just absolutely thrilled that we FINALLY got a buff for ganondorf. It's a small one but a crucial one. they cut his endlag in HALF when he lands his up special on someone.
    This means it's no longer a guarantee that you can just let yourself get grabbed by it offstage, wall jump tech it, and get a free KO on ganon as he's stuck in the ending animation. Ganon now has the frame advantage most of the time. He can hit you with a uair, a nair, Flame choke suicide KO, or if you get WAY to greedy, he can get a dair on you, turning things around instantly. Ganondorf now get's rewarded finally for landing his up special on people should they attempt to try and gimp his recovery. Opponent's now have to seriously think about whether it's worth it or not to try and go after a ganondorf recovering off stage, or to just let him back.
    Yes under certain situations you can still wall jump tech check his recovery, but it's no longer laughably easy, and it's a drastically higher risk tactic now that might not be worth it.

    • @skyblade7438
      @skyblade7438 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There were a couple of decent buffs and nerfs in this patch.

    • @Huanchee
      @Huanchee 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@skyblade7438 eh idrc about other characters buffs/nerfs. Ganon has been in such drastic need of ANY sort of buffs , that the fact that we finally got one, and a good one at that, has me absolutely thrilled. This helps one of his biggest issues, recovery. Sure there’s other things that could have probably helped more, but just the fact that he’s no longer screwed for landing his up special now while trying to recover is HUGE.

  • @nightdragon1528
    @nightdragon1528 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Seems like in comparison to shulk, mythra would be monado speed, where as pyra would be smash and maybe shield?

    • @onewingedgamersephy
      @onewingedgamersephy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would say yes to speed and smash, but not buster and shield. Mythra is fast, but she doesn't deal that much damage. Pyra kills crazy early, but her defense is nothing special and she is very slow.

    • @mikilgene3851
      @mikilgene3851 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mythra is very much not buster

    • @mcbill7352
      @mcbill7352 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      mythra is jump and speed, pyra is buster and smash

    • @coricos9849
      @coricos9849 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And where is monado eater?

  • @joelabner0611
    @joelabner0611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Like I said on hungrybox’s video, Pyra is like Ganondorf, Byleth, and Roy all at the same time. And mythra is all of those with captain falcon.

  • @acer6570
    @acer6570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There’s literally a Power Geyser in Pyra’s Up-B

    • @BakiX
      @BakiX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Funny enough I've done power geyser while Pyra did her up be and lost. Lol

  • @avg_musician
    @avg_musician 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's already been discovered that you can footstool out of Pyra Side-B and jab lock
    This is going to be fun

  • @greetings1823
    @greetings1823 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I love playing as Mythra, very fun character all around

  • @Flitch300
    @Flitch300 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    11:30 - Don't worry. It's happened to me too. 🤣 (I'm usually too sacred to go for spikes/suicides, and Pyra just makes that much more scarier with the lack of horizontal movement using her up b).

  • @mario-oc2if
    @mario-oc2if 3 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    I just wish they could recover damn it

    • @zenbrown7144
      @zenbrown7144 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Yeah, there's a certain amount of mixups you have, but you're gonna have to get used to it. Snapping the ledge while descending with Pyra Up B is a pretty good mixup.

    • @frycry360solidslade5
      @frycry360solidslade5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Laughs in little mac

    • @user-bn8vd9jv1y
      @user-bn8vd9jv1y 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Hi-fz3ky rlly ez to punish tho

    • @mccrock2820
      @mccrock2820 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Good recovery would make them op

    • @SpyderBey
      @SpyderBey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      *Laughs in Hero*
      Zoom is life

  • @el_zinga
    @el_zinga 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Can't wait for the next pair up mechanic to be Master Chief and a covenant alien or something. Or Sora, Donald and Goofy. None of these are happening, but still.

    • @doomedgundam6684
      @doomedgundam6684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If Master Chief makes it in and not DoomGuy, this is the wrong timeline.

    • @thenairguy
      @thenairguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If both come to smash its the best timeline

    • @xellanchaos5386
      @xellanchaos5386 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Imagine Switching between Doom Guy and Master Chief

  • @jacobski4824
    @jacobski4824 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man I can’t wait until he finds out about just pressing Pyra’s funny up B just wins the game

  • @datpanda6435
    @datpanda6435 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Reyn is pretty cool, even though he's always like-" _self-destructs_
    Yeah that sums up Mr Alleyoop pretty well

  • @coreenforcer6404
    @coreenforcer6404 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Watching this video after getting her to 9 million GSP. No idea how I did that, played for like 3 hours.

    • @doomedhero9579
      @doomedhero9579 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Asberrrrrr I have no idea how DK is supposed to survive against this.
      They have the tool kit for wrecking heavies.

    • @CaptainCoolzCT-
      @CaptainCoolzCT- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@doomedhero9579 ironically the only characters that I’ve beaten Pyra/Mythra with so far are Sephiroth, King K. Rool and Bowser

    • @doomedhero9579
      @doomedhero9579 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CaptainCoolzCT- Well dang. Byleth is what I've been using.
      Mythras keep side specialing into my down special. It makes me happy.

    • @au_rie
      @au_rie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Asberrrrrr It’s not only dk that sucks against Prya

  • @junidip
    @junidip 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The CPU was forgiving to you today. They spared your soul.

  • @ultragamer8816
    @ultragamer8816 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mythra: i am speed

  • @monsterkill823
    @monsterkill823 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Broke: Pyra/Mythra
    Woke: Potara Fusion Roy & Ike/Sword Shiek

    • @kush7138
      @kush7138 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bruh 😂

  • @991yugioh
    @991yugioh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They bring Pyria and Mythria but reject Mai Shiranui as a background character in the fatal fury stage....the hell man. They both have jiggle physics, so why can't we have Mai's jiggle physics in here too. Lots of hypocrisy over there at Nintendo.

  • @anibalhyrulesantihero7021
    @anibalhyrulesantihero7021 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pyra and Mythra are like if Captain Falcon and Ganondorf had swords.

  • @dbfzato-1327
    @dbfzato-1327 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love mythra n prya definitely my new mains :) your gonna enjoy your xenoblade 1 and 2 playthoughs. I only played them myself after the difinitive edition of 1 came out n I loved them big xenoblade fan now! I'm a mythra fan myself mostly cuz of her personality she is a badass

    • @firenze6478
      @firenze6478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean Pyra has no personality to speak of, and becomes irrelevant as soon as Mythra is revealed.

  • @MasterV26
    @MasterV26 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    9:30 Waifu Mario was not a phrase I expected to hear, and yet I did.

  • @NamelessGamer29
    @NamelessGamer29 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One thing I don’t get is that in Xenoblade 2 Mythra is the more powerful of the two but here Pyra does more damage.

    • @malusvir
      @malusvir 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nah, Pyra has better burst damage in Xenoblade 2 also. Her crits are insane.

  • @KingDarksider
    @KingDarksider 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pyra and Mythra didn't ace their World History test is all I'm gonna say...

    • @firenze6478
      @firenze6478 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pyras answers
      1. 2 + 2= Rex
      2. The capital of Wisconsin is- put your hand on my chest!
      3. What is a noun? Blushy Crushy!

  • @peytonjames1138
    @peytonjames1138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I was gonna sleep but uh...

  • @spinoboyfromjp3705
    @spinoboyfromjp3705 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Prominence re-bleeeeah. Dies when recovering.

  • @yort7002
    @yort7002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Gannon got double D's this patch, wow!

    • @flaregaming7969
      @flaregaming7969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gannon when they don't kill at 20 *IM ON MY PERIOD*

    • @PeanutTechno
      @PeanutTechno 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I didn't need that mental image

    • @yort7002
      @yort7002 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PeanutTechno gotchu fam

    • @au_rie
      @au_rie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That buff was important for Falcon but not for Ganondorf
      Since he doesn’t have great air mobility
      They need to make his hitboxes more consistent overall

    • @firenze6478
      @firenze6478 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The king of evil.
      He can float / levitate
      Move as fast as light and is a master of many Magic’s and weapons is represented in smash as a slow heavy brawler.
      4 games in a row....

  • @riskybiskut1201
    @riskybiskut1201 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    B- reversing mythras up b helps the recovery because she kicks the opposite direction at the end.

  • @zwillscoopchannel9689
    @zwillscoopchannel9689 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh buddy when pyra throws her sword you can shield it’s broken

  • @markpiper6382
    @markpiper6382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2:19 "Let's see how dumb Pyra is." I mean, technically she does contain a third of the power of the processing unit that destroyed the entire multiverse and then created a new one. It's always a good thing when characters are as powerful in smash as they are in their own universes... Bayonetta...

    • @firenze6478
      @firenze6478 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yet she can’t win one fight, not with morag, not with vandham, not with brigid by herself.

    • @markpiper6382
      @markpiper6382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@firenze6478 Yeah...

  • @leifster7762
    @leifster7762 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I already got used to Mythra's speed. She feels so fun and natural and that combines to make me feel like I can really make them my own. Pyra's slowness will though just because I spend more time with Mythra and leave her for kills. Also I like Mythra's play style much more but I have use them both more equally and in tandem. Both are broken and are characters I loved(Also they have the best alts)
    Also yes the over animeness of Photon Edge is what makes it so great and taht's why it's the coolest special in the game(And Lightning Buster comes out SO quick I love it)

  • @omfpenguin2119
    @omfpenguin2119 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Theres nothing more annoying than getting past the semifinals in a tournament and realizing your final opponent is these two fucking characters

  • @fronk_alt
    @fronk_alt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm just hyped for the amazing music

  • @GalaxiaKnightX
    @GalaxiaKnightX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm already playing Pyra and Mythra online. They are tons of fun. Though I've fought 2 dittos, a pichu twice, and a Ness who raged quitted.

    • @xellanchaos5386
      @xellanchaos5386 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      For making a NESS rage quit for once, you get a like.

    • @GalaxiaKnightX
      @GalaxiaKnightX 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xellanchaos5386 Thanks Xellan Chaos.

  • @AquaJet738
    @AquaJet738 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    *slaps Pyra/Mythra* These babies can fit so many characters into them.

  • @jonahconnolly916
    @jonahconnolly916 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pyra Kirby is about to be scary

  • @traxstaromega3467
    @traxstaromega3467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don't have anything witty to say, but I'm here really early so... Once Bread is secure leisure is the supreme aim

  • @youngmaverick8702
    @youngmaverick8702 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly the best thing to do is mythra to rack up damage and then when your appointment is at high percent see switching to pyra to get confirmed kills

  • @SealFormulaMaster
    @SealFormulaMaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When a new character comes out, do you train your Amiibo against them so they learn how to fight against that character? If you do, will you be doing a stream or video of your Amiibo fighting against Pyra/Mythra?

    • @JOHNCENA-ji3rm
      @JOHNCENA-ji3rm 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I will when their amiibo comes out, and when that amiibo is fully trained, I’ll train it against my 2nd DK amiibo which I only trained against my other 16 amiibos

  • @roboryan_13
    @roboryan_13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was always intimidated by level 9 CPUs but after seeing Choc wreck them, I feel more confident

    • @sirspookybones1118
      @sirspookybones1118 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I heard they were nerfed to be slightly more punishable

    • @au_rie
      @au_rie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are weak but once a month they will fight like monsters, foreseeing all your moves haha

  • @Amiibo21
    @Amiibo21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    New dlc usually brings broken characters so I’m not surprised. But honestly this is one of the best dlc in my opinion.

    • @impossiblehanley2732
      @impossiblehanley2732 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The only incredibly good dlc was joker and he isn't even the best character, let alone "broken".

  • @Lethamos
    @Lethamos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm really happy that they decided to glue Sheik to Ganondorf.

  • @-xXaugustXx-
    @-xXaugustXx- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Is mythra faster than sonic?

    • @lordtoomas
      @lordtoomas 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      probably not, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's pretty close

    • @dynamicsketch
      @dynamicsketch 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably Captain Falcon fast. She is insanely fast.

  • @nettlesomenpc889
    @nettlesomenpc889 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the funniest tactics I use is consrantly switching between Pyra and Mythra with the Pnuema alt to mind-trick my opponents

  • @fernandocortes8875
    @fernandocortes8875 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Everyone: omg pyra f smash kills at 20!! Omg
    King dedede: ....
    *Gone but not fo- no he is gone and forgotten*

  • @SpyderBey
    @SpyderBey 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    These dlc characters are cool! The skillsets are great. I don't own them yet but man I have the most awesome fights playing against them online.
    About 1:27, I can already see a way to avoid that edge guard. It'll be annoying either way, but not as bad. I'm a Hero main, so I'd simply try to fast fall under it then use my up special to grab onto the ledge. As soon as the Sword returns to Pyra, jump or roll back up. You could use Lucario, Pit, Dark Pit, and other high recovery characters to mimic Hero. If you're using a character with bad aerials, that's where it gets really bad.

  • @2yoyoyo1Unplugged
    @2yoyoyo1Unplugged 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    God, I really wish there was a channel that appreciated the little details and played on non-battlefield/omega form stages. All this overanalyzing movesets and mechanics is just getting old imo

  • @dexverse7792
    @dexverse7792 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mythra almost has like a Palutena nair

  • @catsgames_yt689
    @catsgames_yt689 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was playing today and all I found were these people and they spammed so much.

    • @au_rie
      @au_rie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Quickplay - winning by any means
      You shouldn’t be surprised

  • @geo4876
    @geo4876 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I find it interesting how there are a bunch of different playstyles with this one character.

  • @piccol9200
    @piccol9200 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hats off to Choc for staying up to do this. Especially when he could be in bed with his wife. If you know what I mean.

  • @nahhhidwin
    @nahhhidwin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Use mythra’s neutral b to give the finishing hit in a combo
    You don’t have to charge, it has enough power already

  • @chillikindom1390
    @chillikindom1390 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes daddy

  • @isaacm6052
    @isaacm6052 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pyramid and Mythra May be stupid, but I’m still stupider.

  • @aboredyoutuber1642
    @aboredyoutuber1642 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Early gang

  • @williamchicas1208
    @williamchicas1208 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pyra can footstool an opponent if they are trapped in her side-b. That will be the starter move for a switch combo.

  • @sparkrock9134
    @sparkrock9134 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rex was made to be a SIMP in smash.

  • @xellanchaos5386
    @xellanchaos5386 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I pulled off the Dashing Mythra switch to Pyra with F-Smash from behind against a Lv 9 Luigi for a KO.

  • @dawndastardly
    @dawndastardly 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    down tilt will be your bread and butter combo starter (literally describes every character in smash)

  • @TheMightyKite
    @TheMightyKite 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I found out yesterday Pyra's neutral B doesn't slide, but Mythra's Does.

  • @RE_Cope-Powell
    @RE_Cope-Powell 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the salt that I get when I Palu-Nair chain then kill with Donkey Kong-like moves.

  • @samuelwalden1446
    @samuelwalden1446 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m gonna start losing in Quickplay.... wait that happens all the time anyway

  • @AshenDemon
    @AshenDemon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7:12 When my opponents have a lot of damage I enjoy go over them with Mythra, only to switch to Pyra while keeping my momentum and doing f smash.

  • @devdoesitbest6974
    @devdoesitbest6974 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the one thing I noticed is that Pyra has little offstage recovery...good thing you can instantly switch to Mythra and be fine without consequence XD