i commend your guest for his humility. how many people oth there today are unwilling to admit they are wrong and that they may not know everything on the subject. he seems to be focused on finding the truth, rather than “his truth” - i hate that expression. well done sir
I remember my astronomy professor in college telling us "Galileo was not punished by the church because of his scientific work. Galileo was punished by the church because he was a dick".
Great interview! And merry Christmas, Tim! 🎄 I hope you also have a wonderful New Year! 💖 Your channel is one of my favorites and I'm looking forward to seeing your work on the Inquisition!
Never. I want everyone who watches my videos to do what I do when I see bookshelves in the background: freeze-frame, turn my head on one side and squint.
Sebastian Major face reveal? This will break the internet. I'm shocked. This is not the face I've attached to your voice for the past 7 years. For some reason, I expected you to look like Rob Scallon.
Can i suggest to have a look at what Alessandro Barbero says on the topic? He's a reputable Italian historian, he probably wouldn't agree with you. As an Italian, the church did condemn Galileo for heresy and told him to retract what he was saying because it was going against what was the church's stance. Maybe the translations you are reading are not accurate, I don't know.
No, the Church did not "condemn Galileo for heresy". They condemned him for the lesser charge of "vehement suspicion of heresy", which is not the same thing. If Barbero doesn't get basic facts like this right, then I don't think we need to pay much attention to him.
@@historyforatheists9363 you aee right, I was mistaken on that. But the church still hold the stance that he had to retract what he was spreading with an "atto di abiura" (which I don't really know how to translate)
@@FedericaGalli89 Yes, they did. What I discuss with Sebastian is WHY they did so. The context here is key. That context was politics. It was not because the Church rejected science.
Ciao Federica! Do you mind telling me where Barbero says something that would contradict what Tim and others have said about it? Been listening to him lately and aside the fact that he's a very compelling narrator, I find him very fair when discussing Galileo, even if he doesn't go into detail, which is understandable since Barbero is trying to give the overall picture.
Christmas has come early this year, thanks for this video!
Excellent as always. Thanks for putting "Our Fake History" on my radar!
A good discussion Mr. O'Neill. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
i commend your guest for his humility. how many people oth there today are unwilling to admit they are wrong and that they may not know everything on the subject. he seems to be focused on finding the truth, rather than “his truth” - i hate that expression. well done sir
Ah, I should've seen this coming when I heard him mention you on the podcast!
I remember my astronomy professor in college telling us "Galileo was not punished by the church because of his scientific work. Galileo was punished by the church because he was a dick".
Great interview! And merry Christmas, Tim! 🎄 I hope you also have a wonderful New Year! 💖
Your channel is one of my favorites and I'm looking forward to seeing your work on the Inquisition!
I adore Major's podcast!
Tim, when are you going to give us a bookshelf tour?
Never. I want everyone who watches my videos to do what I do when I see bookshelves in the background: freeze-frame, turn my head on one side and squint.
@@historyforatheists9363 LOL.
Good one!
Thanks
Sebastian Major face reveal? This will break the internet.
I'm shocked. This is not the face I've attached to your voice for the past 7 years. For some reason, I expected you to look like Rob Scallon.
Brilliant
Can i suggest to have a look at what Alessandro Barbero says on the topic? He's a reputable Italian historian, he probably wouldn't agree with you.
As an Italian, the church did condemn Galileo for heresy and told him to retract what he was saying because it was going against what was the church's stance. Maybe the translations you are reading are not accurate, I don't know.
No, the Church did not "condemn Galileo for heresy". They condemned him for the lesser charge of "vehement suspicion of heresy", which is not the same thing. If Barbero doesn't get basic facts like this right, then I don't think we need to pay much attention to him.
@@historyforatheists9363 you aee right, I was mistaken on that. But the church still hold the stance that he had to retract what he was spreading with an "atto di abiura" (which I don't really know how to translate)
@@FedericaGalli89 Yes, they did. What I discuss with Sebastian is WHY they did so. The context here is key. That context was politics. It was not because the Church rejected science.
@@historyforatheists9363 thank you for clarifying, I must have missed that point as I was listening while doing something else 😅
Ciao Federica! Do you mind telling me where Barbero says something that would contradict what Tim and others have said about it? Been listening to him lately and aside the fact that he's a very compelling narrator, I find him very fair when discussing Galileo, even if he doesn't go into detail, which is understandable since Barbero is trying to give the overall picture.
how about the Holocaust?
What about it? Are there popular atheist myths about it?
The entire thing...
*promosm* ⭐