Lawn Disease 2020: Pythium vs Dollar Spot Pictures and Identification Strategies
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- I am seeing a lot of lawn disease here in 2020 with all the heat and humidity. I break down two common ones that are often confused this time of year, dollar spot lawn disease and pythium blight.
Not all brown spots in the lawn come from disease and sometimes you have a combination of things going on.
My old video on Dollar Spot:
• Dollar Spot Lawn Fungu...
I had recommended just pushing it out with N back then but as you hear in this video, I'm starting to change my recommendations on that.
Here is a severe case of dollar spot in Ben's lawn (thanks Ben for sharing, I know that isn't easy!)
• Why is my Lawn BROWN?!...
Matt's video showing Pythium on turf type tall fescue in Tennessee:
• Summer DISEASES EVERYW...
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• When Is a Good Time To...
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After following your last video speaking about this I followed your remedy of applying Scott’s disease Ex along with spot treatment with the Bioadvanced fungus lawn treatment. I now have the greenest lawn on the street. Thanks so much
Happy birthday, fellow old timer! I gotcha by 6 months! 48 is coming up fast! Hope you had a great one!!
Hoorah thank you 🤘
Happy birthday allyn.
Hope you doing good man.
God bless you.
Thanks for all your advice.
Thank you 👊
I used Bioadvanced for my pythium last week and it seemed to work in 1 day. Thanks your channel is the best!
You are the man I go back and watch old content and keep learning more and more
HAPPY 47th BIRTHDAY Allyn!! thanks for everything you do for the lawn care community man.
Thank you 👊
Good Sunday afternoon everyone... I'm in Jax FL and upper 90's with excessive humidity and rain everyday...I battle fungus every year with minimal success but lawn always comes thru because of proper mowing and Allan Haynes awesomes advice and tips!!!..this spring after fertilizer added 50lbs of cut corn for 8$ from tractor supply..Best my floratam St. Augustine grass has ever looked!!..disease is still present but grass is lush and green with good fungus winning..The science behind it is the cut corn attracts the good fungus and improves the soil structure...just letting everyone know what worked for me..thank you for all your videos Mr. Haynes!..you rock and roll🤣
Happy Birthday 🎉🎂🎈 Allyn. Just watched a video Jake did with you. Very cool that you are friends.
Thank you 👊
This year has probably been the best for diseases for me in the Chicago area for some reason! Lawn is looking green and happy. Thanks for all your help through out the years Allyn! Congrats on the new podcast! Didn’t know about the extension office will definitely check that out!
It's a great resource for sure!
Mr. Meeseeks knock on wood grubs are under control if you would so far we’ll see
This time of the year is always a pain. Humidity, and dry desert heat is a challenge, but I will win. Lol...
Dang was hoping this was for Warm Season. Look forward to seeing that. I have put down two groups of fungicides but taking a while to recover even though the saint augustine grows fast.
I have some good warm season content coming up!
@@Thelawncarenut When? My lawn is suffering and I am at a loss :(
I had to throw down some Scott’s disease x twice. Also, propiconazole and heritage! The propiconazole did an amazing job knocking back the fungus and the heritage has been keeping it away! I highly recommend those 2! I got these 2 product ideas from your old videos. I’m here in New Orleans where the humidity and rain is constant!
I’m aware! Thanks! 😊
Allyn, you're the content king. Thanks for vids and podcast.
Great video Allyn. I think my primary issue is heat and drought. My lawn is KBG sod that was put down on a clay soil with nothing added to it. I'm getting some tan areas but I keep watering anyway. Wondering if I should throw down some Milorganite in its current condition.
if you are mowing at least every 7-10 days then you can apply a light application of Milo. If you are dormant then you should wait until the lawn wakes back up heading into fall.
@@Thelawncarenut Thanks Allyn. I've been mowing about every 4-5 days at this point. My shaded areas get too tall to wait any longer.
I got the Pythium. It has been an emotional week. lol. Thanks for the video Allyn, Matt's videos definitely helped. Waiting for the Super Maxx to kick in.
Your yardmastery app helps out a lot! Thanks for that!
Bermuda nice and green at a 102 degree weather.
Yep, over by New Jersey dere, my neighbor has dollar spot. He mows Ttf 2in, fertilizes heavy, water every other day. I’m fortunate to receive his bounty of clippings and edging blown entirely on my side.
Welcome back to 69.9FM Smooth Jazz radio I’m your host Allyn Hayne
Lol!
Allyn has that smooth buttery voice. It helps me fall asleep. ASMR...
If The Lawn Care Nut were a superhero then Pythium would be one of the Villians
ha ha it does sound like that
Xzemplar is by far the best fungicide for dollar spot for homeowners. It's better than Propiconazole and it's a group 7 fungicide so there's no heat restriction or growth regulation with it. It's more expensive, $150, but it comes with enough to treat an acre. If you only have 6000-7000 square feet, it'll last several years. It's also very good for brown patch.
Sometimes synthetic fertilizer that has not been watered in deep enough seems to give the same effect. Chemical analysis of the grass sample may verify this. I have problems with synthetic fertilizers. I have moved away from them more and more. Organics seem to not give these problems where you have to spend more and more money buying products to fix the problem their products caused. I personally think their products should either be in smaller media. Or just liquid form.
This video was a HUGE help. Just getting into lawn care and honestly thought I had spiders all over my lawn. I do have a question... I was going to use DiseaseEx for my dollar spot issue but thankfully your video made it clear that was the wrong stuff. I ended up going with the BioAdvanced Fungus Control which has the same active ingredient (Propiconazole). It's been 7 days and the stuff seems to be working. I had it pretty bad so I assume I'll need to wait for it to grow out before the spots (patches) completely disappear. I followed the directions on the bag and laid down a "Curative' amount. Finally my question: You mention another application in 14 days. Should this also be at the curative rate or just preventative rate?
Enjoyed the Mow today ...noticed Moths in the Lawn(Northeast-MA) June bug on the bag of the JD JA-62!!!!
Thank this video help my lawn. Wish I could post the before and after.
Love the video, still in the 70’s consistently here in PNW with occasional day of light rain and day or two in the 80’s here and there (guessing still susceptible to dollar spot). Have you done a video on pink patch vs red thread? Feel like I get some pink patch n the spring each year with how wet our spring is. Hey know Nitrogen is best way to just grow through it but are there any preventative measures to be done? (Good nitrogen fert application pre-winter or first application in fall? Higher K application?
My Bermuda is still getting cut every other day and we are in the mid to upper 90s for highs. It is raining 2-3 times per week tho.
Thanks again Allyn for the info.... you got some nice Zoysia!!!!! Allyn:That's what she said!!! Bah bah bah!!!
Oh gosh thank you so much! So informative! I'm panicking! Lol! Hoa watches closely here in Reno NV!
I put down scotts turb builder 32-0-4 on labor day just bought this house in June. I been watching you and just bought milorganite . I've having heat stress but its getting cool now here in Massachusetts. My lawn is 10,000 sqft total, should I put down milorganite as well for the slow release. Or what you think 😁
Best thing to do with these diseases is to start putting a preventative down when it starts getting hot out. Also have to watch how you water your lawn. Gotta look at your lawn. See if it needs water. Just dont go ahead and water every day. Also if you do water, try and water early in the day. Dont push high nitrogen in july and August. Use the milo, supplement with some liquid iron. Your lawn will stay green.
Happy birthday again brother 🙌🙏
thanks bro!
Man, I just bought some disease x for my dollarspot because someone told me it did work on it. I’ll see what happens.
If I’m irrigating should I mow my lawn even if temps are 90 and up
yes just try to mow in the evening when it will create less stress on the turf
Good info!! Question: Is it possible that a product like Hydretain could contribute to some of these diseases?
Happy Birthday! Keep up the great work.
Heck yeah my salad bar aint got any pythium. Last week was brutal in the 61350 10 straight days 90's with no rain. seems my zoysia plugs just love it, fescue not so much
Will you do one of these regarding southern warm grass please good sir?
Allyn your mic and new mixer sound good....you got it dialed in!!! Just an FYI if wondering.
thanks bro!
Having heavy dollar spot in some areas. Kentucky bluegrass in the midwest. Should I lay off the irrigation? Thanks LCN.
I’ve seen a lot of Dollar Spot in our fescues this year.
I just cut my St. Aug. less often and up the irrigation with Milo. So it’s less stressed.
I'm aerating and overfseeding here in fall Tulsa. I have a perennial rye sunny yard, and a fescue, bluegrass for my shaded front. I was told the 2 don't mix. Should I add my fescue-bluegrass seed to my fescue?
Woke up this morning to a ton of "spider webs" spots all over my lawn. The areas completely browned out. I hope it is dollar spot!
Hi love your channel I am a landscape professional I have a quick question can you spray Fungicide and mix in a liquid iron in one application
I’m really struggling this year with both crab grass and fungus I also had grubs but took care of that. Anyways. You notice the crab grass and other weeds never are affected by this stuff
Been battling some dollar spot all summer in my bermuda. It seems to keep coming back.
8:20 Another confusing point. My lawn pro said Syngenta Banner Maxx II Propiconazole Fungicide would not do me any good once dollar spot was noticeable. He claimed it was a SYSTEMIC fungicide.
I can’t get Propiconazole shipped to NY ...good olllll new york . What’s the next best option for dollar spot thanks
I have used hydretain and in im san Antonio. I can see my grass is not as dry or brown as I usually do and i just hand water every 2 or 3 day seeing we are in water restrictions.
My question is I have the app and got the download but do you have a time lime in a video or article that says or guides when to start with what and when? Trying to load up on products and start following you suggestions starting in fall fully.
What’s something good I can spray here in hot humid southern Indiana for crab grass and clover? I had it looking good and then we got pretty saturated and it all just started taking over.
I have tall fescue, noticed brown spots on May, i tried mix of Scotts and bio advanced but it is not stopping it. It reduced a little bit but still have those spots. Do you think those are dollar spots? I will try to look at the leaves tomorrow. Those spots now look like color of hay! Any help appreciated.
Okay, I live in Middle TN, a transition zone. I have tall fescue but really love palmetto St Augustine. Is it safe to plant Palmetto here and do i need to kill off all of my fescue, or would plugs just take over the fescue?
My cool season lawn is suffering from yellowing and curling blades in a few areas. This has just begun to occur in late November. Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. The affected turf is at the rear and side of my home which is heavily shaded. I’ve also notice algae on the surface of the soil in thin areas in the affected areas. My front lawn is just a beautiful and dark green as it has ever been.
Happy Birthday Al 😎
Thanks bruh 🤘
Weird question and not sure if you covered it. But laid new grass seed and everything is coming in nicely for the most part. But everything I’ve been watching says water the yard 4-6 inches deep for a good root. How do I know if I’m watering that deep? Or how do I go about to it water that deep?
And if it’s dry just keep watering til it gets to that depth I’m assuming? And how often should I be watering to get it there if it isn’t? I live in South Georgia. Doesn’t know if that makes a difference or not
Pythium is the worst. We get here in NJ June usually when it wet and humid. I have resorted to preventing it by spraying mefenoxam early in June. Didn't get it this year when neighbors had some. I do the same with PPZ to prevent red thread in April and May.
Fellow Jersey resident here. Dollar Spot is running rampant in Middlesex county. I hit the yard with a light dose of nitrogen to encourage it to grow out, but I think our temps have just been too hot to grow the problem away. I do have some Prop ready to go, but I'm trying to avoid spraying it. I will likely (and reluctantly) run a preventative rate next year starting around Memorial day.
Mr. Meeseeks yea the humidity has caused major disease pressure this year. It’s been the perfect environment for fungus issues. I don’t remember it being this bad in past years.
Great video Allyn I put down Scott's disease EX on July 2nd I plan on doing an app of propiconazole and imidacloprid this upcoming weekend my question is do I water in right away or how long should I wait to water in thank you for your time
The labels of those two products will give the information needed. Hope this helps. 😎👊
@@Lawnvolution reading the label dollar spot or rust fungus is a foliar disease correct
@@shane6002 The Scott's disease EX is Azoxystrobin which is a systemic with upward mobility and should be watered in between 1/8-1/4 inch. The roots will take it in and it will travel upward through the plant to cover the crown and leaves. Disease EX is also a granular and should always be lightly watered in. Propiconazole is also systemic and will do the same thing but if you're just treating for dollar spot or rust, then it's fine to leave it on the leaf to dry as those are both foliar diseases. Be careful with Propiconazole though as it can be rough on the turf and shouldn't be applied when temps are 85 or above.
Happy Birthday Allyn🎩🥂🎂🕶
Thanks bro 👊
Have a great Birthday Allyn 🎉🎂🎁
thanks bro!
Propiconazole is now banned in the EU :-( (since 2020). alternatives?
Happy Birthday Bro
Hi Allyn. You mention to use propiconazole 14.3 to treat dollar spot. Do you need to water in propiconazole 14.3 after it is applied?
usually you will want to leave it on the lawn for a few hours without watering but each formulation will vary slightly - the label will have the right instructions for you for sure.,
So I’m in Tennessee with TTTF.. should I mix with bluegrass?
Hey!!! What’s up Brother! Will a 0-0-50 help?! Explain when is a good time to throw that down.
it's a link in the chain, yes. Summer is a good time for that.
Best type of grass to grow in heavy shade? I live in metro Atlanta and have almost no grass in my yard because I have 25 trees (on less than 1 acre). I can't afford to remove 20 trees unfortunately, is there anything I can do? Where should I start?
Checkout Emerald Zoysia. Among the more shade tolerant warm season grasses. Empire Zoysia is another popular cultivar of zoysia and is shade tolerant compared to Bermuda but I think Emerald is a little more shade tolerant and is beautiful thin blade grass that can very dark green. If you like the wider blade then Empire would be a better choice. For a cheaper easy to care for and somewhat shade tolerant grass compared to Bermuda, Centipede is another option. Zoysia can be pricey.
That’s funny you mentioned Dayton, Ohio. I’m 30 minutes South of Dayton in Franklin, Ohio.
I was stationed at Wright Patt in 1996-97 and lived in Centerville in 2001 for a short time. Spent alot of time in Miamisburg too. Nice area.
Whats a recommended cold season grass mix brand?
Good oldie
Allyn in the fall I will need to aerate and over seed as I ended up with both dollar spot and pythium tracked back to now now dismissed lawn care company. In the northeast is is possible to aerate and over seed twice? If so how many weeks in between? Thinking a late August then late Sept
I would not recommend that because the first seeding and second seeding will fight for space and some will die out the following spring. Just do a good overseeding in early Sept - follow the recos on the seed you buy and you will be all good. Then the next spring you hit it hard with fert and let it thicken up from there.
How about using subdue systemic fungicide?
I've never used it. I'd look at the NC State turf files for each disease and see what the efficacy is on your intended target.
Has anyone tried out the summer stress blend from yard mastery? Thinking about giving it a shot on my TTTF in the transition zone
Great fungus info bro.... see what I did there with the rhyme?
Mr. Nut if I may call you that. I thought we came to an agreement. I asked for more videos a month ago and your not holding up your end. I am a desperate man. I have a bottle of round up. I will go out and end all this good grass you help me get if we don't get more videos. I will have to start from the beginning just to watch the old videos.
Over by dare!!!!!
How do i find those links you speak of.
Can't find them...thx...
they are in the description of the video.
Thx...got it now..
Cannot find this anywhere propiconazole fungicide
happy birthday Allyn!
Thank you 🤘
Thank you 👊
EZ looking good Allyn Hane!
So is it ok to treat with group 3 and group 11 fungicide (disease ex and bayer fungus control) at the same time to address both brown patch and dollar spot? From upstate NY.
yep sure is, all good
What do recommend for Asthma-plant I’m in south Florida and grows like wild fire 🔥
So the common name of that weed is spotted spurge or garden spurge. The Image for Southern Lawns (purple label) that you can get at Home Depot knocks it out but you should treat in the evening when temps are under 85F
The Lawn Care Nut thanks boss appreciated it, I hate this weed with passion I pull it by hand but then appears and appears and I don’t want to infest my lawn
I think there's another pythium outbreak in dayton
Is propiconazole safe for st aug?
Allyn. Happy 47th Birthday!!!
Thanks bro 🤘
Nice info thanks
you're welcome! stay cool out there!
Our local county extension office is closed due to covid!😭😭 Reno Nevada
Tax dollars at work
Love the Zoysia!
it's in peak performance right now for sure.
I'm suffering from heat stress too.
you're gonna make it!
Does anyone know an easy way to get rid of bag worms?
hello sir im useing essential plus 1-0-1 will that work on heat stress lawn...
Add water
I'm not sure on that one as I have not used that product - so throw it down and hope for the best!
Ordered Eagle last week
that should work well too.
Happy birthday
thank you
Hope you had a great birthday!
I did thank you 🤘
Fascinating…….. I thought running a dog daycare and boarding out of my house was what ruined my lawn. Now I’m wondering if it was Pythium.. hmmmmm
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Thought I had dollar spot, turned out to be Billbugs.
oh yeah, those damage around the same time - I have only encountered them on other time though.
Would you be able to look at the messages I sent on IG?
yeah I'm sorry, really tough for me to keep up with that one, I get hundreds there. 833-LCN-TIPS you can leave a message for this podcast - that may be the best
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Yo mr LCN, what you think about scotts "summer guard" what are the pro's cons? I live in Canada.