I've always thought that the button panels on modern Schindlers don't look quite right - this explains why, the design has been altered for UK installations. With touchscreens being very commonplace now, it would be interesting to see a lift that uses such technology for the button panels. It would mean that button panels wouldn't have to be "made to order", and keypads could be integrated without the need for external units.
Some 3300s do actually pre-door. The brakes are quite quiet, and as a result, it is quite difficult to tell. But if you listen carefully, if you can hear the brakes then the lift does not pre door. But if you can't because the doors are opening and making to much noise for you to hear them then it does pre-door.
Meanwhile older 5400APs were known for loud brakes that could be heard even when the doors were opening, which was a problem as 1 of them had its top floor's lift lobby right in the middle of 1 of my university's quiet study areas
@@lzh4950 Older 3300s are known for their noisy motor (-fans). Stayed at a (older) hotel with a 2016 Schindler 3300. Slept in the room behind the elevator and woke up at 8am every morning to some old grannies using the elevator to go to breakfast...
if you look on the door drive box there is a button that u can press labelled as test which allows u to open and close car doors via that button ,anywhere in the shaft
Or overlay the capacitive buttons with a tactile texture/Braille made of transparent material e.g. plastic, like what was done with some D-Line buttons in my country (before they're replaced with STEP generic ones during modernisation (the lifts now run slightly smoother but doors take longer to open, while the cab's design was unchanged))
I think it they don't think there safe because if you wear to get stuck and there a fault with the button that you can't call for assistants i think that why
My friend has one of these elevators in his house in Munich. These buttons are awesome! (And there are even more of them than in this video, as it's a six-story house xD)
There's another Schindler 3300 with capacitive buttons in the National Library of Latvia in Riga. It goes from the basement to the ground floor. Also, there are two really nice Schindler EuroLifts that go up to floor 7. You need to pay 1-2 euros to access the upper floors.
The Original Roblox Fan Club - ROBLOX That might mess up the capacitive touch sensors. They could mold braille into the glass pannel but that would mean having to make custom glass for each lift.
uhh, beno, look a little bit closer. The capacitive buttons might have buttons up to floor 10 which are not lit, and very hard to see. That was based in my experience in my country.
I saw a Schindler Capacitive button lift in Hong Kong, It's very scary if you dare to look down from the lift (It's famous and high speed and there is ALOT of touch sensitive Schindler M-Series)
Touch-sensitive buttons makes sense in areas where hygiene is more important too e.g. food factories, hospitals since you no longer need a physical mechanism & crevices to let the button be depressed, which create more areas where dirt & germs can be trapped in. Though capacitive technology may not work with gloves, which I guess many users in such areas will be wearing), so maybe resistive technology is needed instead
Capacitive buttons are banned on UK? Waaat! Well, I can imagine various reasons why normal pushbuttons would be more common than capacitive buttons, but a ban? What is the idea of banning these?
Uplifting PostTower All new lifts in the UK have to comply with DDA, which is why capacitive buttons. Old buildings (amd excisting lifts) do not have to conform to DDA but have to make reasonable adjustments to help disabled people. This means doing small things that will help such as adding a disabled height pannel and voice to a lift. Or making sure staff are about to help people, or having a call button to call staff. Small generic lift companys often misquote the DDA to force building owners into modernizing their lifts, even thought the DDA does not require existing lifts to exactly meet the strict rules of new lifts. The thing that make me the most cross is when generic lift companys replace an old buttons with a Dewhurst pannel in the same place as the old buttons. They are supposed to put the new buttons at disabled height, replacing the old buttons helps nobody. Also I am fed up of unnecessary VF mods of classic lifts.
I wish they would let lift companies have capacitive buttons...on the condition that when you press the button,the lift will tell you what floor you pressed. REALLY BAD.
I just looked up the capital of Albania and it doesn't appear to have a metro system or even a tram system. Is it worth me coming to Albania? Is there lots of old stuff to see?
@@benolifts Sorry I'm a bit late. If you want to come and have a look at old elevators/lifts, it's not worth it. Back in the time of communism we didn't have any. But if you want to come and have a look at old abandoned things I think it's worth it. We have a big abandoned rail system that goes through the country (I think we even have one of the biggest rail bridges in the area. It's close to Korca) Small parts of the system still work in Elbasan and they all are Soviet era trains. Most of the rail still exist and the first ever train to go on them is on display. We have tons of abandoned factories. Some of them have had their equipment stolen during the civil war, but all of them are there (Elbasan, Valias, Lac etc). You can even see them clearly from the airplane if you know them. We have two huge atomic era bunkers that have been rebuilt and communist era spies HQ in Tirana. There are tons of old buildings outside of Tirana and a LOT of abandoned ones from the civil war (1997), although you do have to look for them. In Korca we have the first high rise buildings from the 70's and the first "modern" buildings of the time. Since Albania is undergoing a big urbanisation, we have tons of high cranes for you to climb and construction sites. To be honest no one really cares if you climb cranes at night (no police or anything), just don't do it at daytime because it might be taken as a suicide threat. If police catches you usually nothing happens. I'd generally avoid Tirana for abandoned stuff unless you want to see the first Albanian train and the above mentioned bunkers. Keep in mind that to find a lot of these abandoned buildings and rails you will have to ask as there is no online info. Thanks for the great content!
+BlackpoolTransport ROBLOX I had already verified it. I was playing around with it before I turned on the lights before I started filming. I would never go on top a lift without verifying. What I was getting worried about is people making "how to" videos. Telling people step by step instructions which people can copy, especially when they get the instructions wrong. I do not make "how to" videos, and my videos shouldn't be considered as a guide for people to copy. But I know that there are some people who will copy this and I am getting worried about it.
If there is one thing I like about the 3300... It is the button panel in the lift looks really nice. With the capacitive buttons it looks amazing. It is annoying that the buttons have been banned in the UK.
First it is 💣 then it's 🔫 and then 🔪 then 🚬 in buildings then 🗡 which I understand but now it's THE SCHINDLER 3300 LIFT I WANT TO FILM WHAT A RIP OFF NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
+Miks Berkins ThyssenKrupp MRL is worse. After messing around with the logic of the thyssenKrupp it is horrid and unreliable. Schindler MRL logic seems to be ok. The lift itself isn't particularly well built but is as good as equivalent lifts on the market. Otis gen2 is rather crap with many things wrong with it, which is very poor for a company like Otis. Kone ecodisc and Mitsubishi MRL are the best on the market.
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Haha I like it when you go on top of the lift 😁
Lift surfing is the word you want.
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I've always thought that the button panels on modern Schindlers don't look quite right - this explains why, the design has been altered for UK installations. With touchscreens being very commonplace now, it would be interesting to see a lift that uses such technology for the button panels. It would mean that button panels wouldn't have to be "made to order", and keypads could be integrated without the need for external units.
Some 3300s do actually pre-door. The brakes are quite quiet, and as a result, it is quite difficult to tell. But if you listen carefully, if you can hear the brakes then the lift does not pre door. But if you can't because the doors are opening and making to much noise for you to hear them then it does pre-door.
Meanwhile older 5400APs were known for loud brakes that could be heard even when the doors were opening, which was a problem as 1 of them had its top floor's lift lobby right in the middle of 1 of my university's quiet study areas
@@lzh4950 Older 3300s are known for their noisy motor (-fans). Stayed at a (older) hotel with a 2016 Schindler 3300. Slept in the room behind the elevator and woke up at 8am every morning to some old grannies using the elevator to go to breakfast...
So interesting of how your opinion of these 3300s has dramatically changed over the years!
if you look on the door drive box there is a button that u can press labelled as test which allows u to open and close car doors via that button ,anywhere in the shaft
I have a schindler 3300 with capacitive buttons right where i live!
Cool
They could add a wheelchair button where you press the button when you hear your floor
Or overlay the capacitive buttons with a tactile texture/Braille made of transparent material e.g. plastic, like what was done with some D-Line buttons in my country (before they're replaced with STEP generic ones during modernisation (the lifts now run slightly smoother but doors take longer to open, while the cab's design was unchanged))
@@lzh4950 and maybe use pressure sensors.
How can I forget my first video on Beno's channel
SAME 😭
0:30 maybe they are banned because it prevents blind people from using the lift?
Yes definately.
Francisco Herrera
But... If they have put braille on the capacitive buttons, then maybe...
Karol Juszczak then youd press all the buttons while touching them...
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I think it they don't think there safe because if you wear to get stuck and there a fault with the button that you can't call for assistants i think that why
I've seen an Otis with capacitive buttons at the Arkadia shopping centre in Warsaw.
I think I remember seeing a similar type of panel in the elevators at the Guggenheim in New York. It also has a traditional button panel alongside it.
My friend has one of these elevators in his house in Munich. These buttons are awesome! (And there are even more of them than in this video, as it's a six-story house xD)
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I did apptemt to open up the Control cabinet on my 3300 at my home, but it was also jammed shut. Does it open in a specail way?
I love freakin buttons like that they are awesome
Schindler 3300 In Unknown Location, Yay!
Thats the Coolest lift ive ever seen¬!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NO SCHINDLER CAPACITIVE BUTTONS IN THE UK!!!!!!!
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
chatterbox5412 that's a lie because I have been in about 5 in Northern Ireland?
chatterbox5412
I feel you man...
LondonMidlandFan2009 northern ireland is
There's another Schindler 3300 with capacitive buttons in the National Library of Latvia in Riga. It goes from the basement to the ground floor. Also, there are two really nice Schindler EuroLifts that go up to floor 7. You need to pay 1-2 euros to access the upper floors.
In Emmen we have at least one of those too!
Touch sensitive buttons are more common than non touch sensitive buttons in my country (Philippines).
I'd love to come across one of these. But annoyingly there banned in England as you said
are they banned in USA
I guess so as they are probably non ADA compliant
I like it BENO
that motor looks very nice.
There are capacitive button type 3300s at Philippines
it has got a delay Ben, if you want to put it back in normal service it will be delayed, you only have to wait till it goes to the bottom level
Still one of my fav vids of yours :)
So, does the building management not care that you're messing with their elevator, unlocking things, and riding it on top?
Don't you lift the panel? i have a triangle key but i have not found a schindler thats safe to open
This video makes American Schindler 3300's look terrible XD this one is SOOOOO COOOOL
I know one in the Netherlands you can't see the buttons in full glare of the sun on the top floor. I always try to guess where the buttons are.
I love Schindler
Why do they ban the capacitive buttons ?
Neil Robinson Blind people can't feel the buttons.
***** Thanks for the reply Ben.
***** Couldn't they just put Braille on the buttons?
The Original Roblox Fan Club - ROBLOX That might mess up the capacitive touch sensors. They could mold braille into the glass pannel but that would mean having to make custom glass for each lift.
I never thought of it like that
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*BEAUTIFUL CAPACITIVE BUTTONS LIKE A TOUCH SCREEN!!!!*
you should check out the lift at the sky garden London, the fastest lift I've ever been in! You will need your passport though
+battytec videos yes walkie talkie
My friend has one of this new, installed in her house, and same type of buttons. YAY im lucky!
yeah right
Installed in mostly all new buildings in austria.
I have seen this type of elevator in Walsrode, Germany.
I usually found that Schindler 3300 touch sensitive or capacitive buttons in marquinton
0:32 in indonesia we have these
How can you go on top of the elevator like that??
Cool, definitely. But completely inaccessible for the Blind - a disturbing trend among many modern elevator technologies.
No Braille??
Those are actually pretty common in the Netherlands.
They can't be banned in the uk a local restaurant Close to me has one of these with the capacitive buttons
Really?
I've been in one of these in Sri Lanka and Germany
Can you do a detailed look at the Schindler EuroLift/5400?
i never heard of a 5400. the only other model i saw is the 5500.
We have that too in the Philippines. But it only have 2 floors
Actually, Ive seen more than 2 floors. Rare lang dito sa Pilipinas kase bago yun dito! XD
@@frostycreeper1055 In Marquinton,i saw these,BUT THERE IS NO FLOOR 4!!!!!!!!!!!!
uhh, beno, look a little bit closer. The capacitive buttons might have buttons up to floor 10 which are not lit, and very hard to see. That was based in my experience in my country.
Yep. They're premade with a few floors already on, but may never be used.
@@TheDragonFire123 Me too I saw the unlit,1,B1,B2,4,13,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28
I saw a Schindler Capacitive button lift in Hong Kong, It's very scary if you dare to look down from the lift (It's famous and high speed and there is ALOT of touch sensitive Schindler M-Series)
Touch-sensitive buttons makes sense in areas where hygiene is more important too e.g. food factories, hospitals since you no longer need a physical mechanism & crevices to let the button be depressed, which create more areas where dirt & germs can be trapped in. Though capacitive technology may not work with gloves, which I guess many users in such areas will be wearing), so maybe resistive technology is needed instead
This elevator has Gong chimes.
Well. in my Apartment building we have a Schindler 3300 with mirror walls and capacitive buttons but no sound :/
Dunno why many ppl mistake this for a 5300 (they don’t exist)
Capacitive buttons are banned on UK? Waaat! Well, I can imagine various reasons why normal pushbuttons would be more common than capacitive buttons, but a ban? What is the idea of banning these?
Uplifting PostTower Probably due to disability reason like ADA and DDA.
IDLift3000 this applies within the United States - I wonder if there are similar laws in UK...
Uplifting PostTower All new lifts in the UK have to comply with DDA, which is why capacitive buttons. Old buildings (amd excisting lifts) do not have to conform to DDA but have to make reasonable adjustments to help disabled people. This means doing small things that will help such as adding a disabled height pannel and voice to a lift. Or making sure staff are about to help people, or having a call button to call staff. Small generic lift companys often misquote the DDA to force building owners into modernizing their lifts, even thought the DDA does not require existing lifts to exactly meet the strict rules of new lifts. The thing that make me the most cross is when generic lift companys replace an old buttons with a Dewhurst pannel in the same place as the old buttons. They are supposed to put the new buttons at disabled height, replacing the old buttons helps nobody. Also I am fed up of unnecessary VF mods of classic lifts.
+Beno can you please please please try to open the logic cabinet in this lift
I HOPE THE OLD OTIS IN BLACKPOOL TOWER HASNT GONE
we have the same elevator but its a freinght in our school they keep the elevator locked
Door sounds unreal
I wish they would let lift companies have capacitive buttons...on the condition that when you press the button,the lift will tell you what floor you pressed.
REALLY BAD.
4:09 Epic moment
They Also Banned It From Australia Too I Filmed With A Glass Panel But It Got Replaced.
I don't get it - why are they banned?
+Matthew M I Don't Know?
Aidan Bush Maybe because blind people can't use it?
Matthew Maybe
We have the ones with the capacitive buttons in Albania.
I just looked up the capital of Albania and it doesn't appear to have a metro system or even a tram system. Is it worth me coming to Albania? Is there lots of old stuff to see?
@@benolifts Sorry I'm a bit late. If you want to come and have a look at old elevators/lifts, it's not worth it. Back in the time of communism we didn't have any. But if you want to come and have a look at old abandoned things I think it's worth it. We have a big abandoned rail system that goes through the country (I think we even have one of the biggest rail bridges in the area. It's close to Korca) Small parts of the system still work in Elbasan and they all are Soviet era trains. Most of the rail still exist and the first ever train to go on them is on display. We have tons of abandoned factories. Some of them have had their equipment stolen during the civil war, but all of them are there (Elbasan, Valias, Lac etc). You can even see them clearly from the airplane if you know them. We have two huge atomic era bunkers that have been rebuilt and communist era spies HQ in Tirana. There are tons of old buildings outside of Tirana and a LOT of abandoned ones from the civil war (1997), although you do have to look for them. In Korca we have the first high rise buildings from the 70's and the first "modern" buildings of the time. Since Albania is undergoing a big urbanisation, we have tons of high cranes for you to climb and construction sites. To be honest no one really cares if you climb cranes at night (no police or anything), just don't do it at daytime because it might be taken as a suicide threat. If police catches you usually nothing happens. I'd generally avoid Tirana for abandoned stuff unless you want to see the first Albanian train and the above mentioned bunkers. Keep in mind that to find a lot of these abandoned buildings and rails you will have to ask as there is no online info.
Thanks for the great content!
I wanted to film a Schindler 3300 with capacitive buttons for ages I cannot believe the UK government threw them out the UK! CR**
Where is it?
why did they ban capacitive buttons
did you know it is a 3300AP?
The Schindler controller system is very restrictive. That's the reason why it's jammed shut, forced it shut.
How can you open a schindler logic cabinet?
Notice: i rode the schindler 3300 AP MRL In the commer's center in the philippines
We have some here in New Zealand
And sadly now the one is replaced with FI GL push buttons.
Most buildings in the UAE have capacitive buttons.
And in those towers,There is no floor 4!!! And they have no basement,The floor numbering is G 2 3 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 14 15 16
They are quite alot in Moscow.
In Germany Italy and Austria these are everyverhere
Linus Philippines?
In switzerland they arent banned
Here in the Philippines, theyre rare because theyre pretty new. XD
You can find it at marquinton residences,on the last tower on Marikina
To me I think the moter sounds an ecodisc
It’s basically a nicer version of the gen2
magick buttons
You didn't verify inspection! I am very disappointed!
+BlackpoolTransport ROBLOX I had already verified it. I was playing around with it before I turned on the lights before I started filming. I would never go on top a lift without verifying.
What I was getting worried about is people making "how to" videos. Telling people step by step instructions which people can copy, especially when they get the instructions wrong. I do not make "how to" videos, and my videos shouldn't be considered as a guide for people to copy. But I know that there are some people who will copy this and I am getting worried about it.
Beno
Beno
If i owned a low-rise building i would want a lift with capacitive buttons aor else i put in an otis Gen2 and ask otis to put DMG BM Macro.
see the built cabls naby it ues to be a otis gen 2 but was mordorysd by schindler
+the minecraft masters nic & aldo Schindler is using belt cables. Gen2s are not going to be modernized yet.
+Beno oh. It's just I thought Otis gen2s where the only lift that had them
i love it
Beautiful buttons 😁 just not very useful at all to the visually impaired myself included
We have one in Indonesia also
Beno where is the lift lol
yeees i've been in one of these in venice!
I'm moving to somewhere these are allowed
I have seen one in portugal
Wets Wide itttt
But why do countries ban those touch buttons?
how can blind people use it...
failsingermany they should add a panel for the blind
Because blind people can't feel the buttons.
ElevatorsinRussia awww sad thing
Why is it banned
Because blind people can't feel the buttons.
+Calvin Jacks NO! Because it prevents blind people from using the lifts. STFU and get a life.
If there is one thing I like about the 3300...
It is the button panel in the lift looks really nice. With the capacitive buttons it looks amazing. It is annoying that the buttons have been banned in the UK.
This is a Schindler 3100 not 3300.
YOU WIN $100,000
Fuck off
What is that !?
What the fuck is this fucking thing ?! I DO NOT CALL THAT AN ELEVATOR !!!
I found one in canada ontario
why did they ban the buttons beno ?
Because blind people can't feel the buttons.
+ElevatorsinRussia Incorect
+Calvin Jacks NO! I am correct!! STFU.
Calvin Jacks: That doesn't make it fact.
Cool
First it is 💣 then it's 🔫 and then 🔪 then 🚬 in buildings then 🗡 which I understand but now it's THE SCHINDLER 3300 LIFT I WANT TO FILM WHAT A RIP OFF NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
good elevator schindler but the piececs ares cheep...all AADL company of Algeria bay...kadatis from Algeria...thanks for th video...
3300 AP.
Do not use this product I was on it I got stuck in it 12 times 😡😑I hate lifts thay suck a lot so don't worry about it you don't have to get on it
+Miks Berkins ThyssenKrupp MRL is worse. After messing around with the logic of the thyssenKrupp it is horrid and unreliable. Schindler MRL logic seems to be ok. The lift itself isn't particularly well built but is as good as equivalent lifts on the market. Otis gen2 is rather crap with many things wrong with it, which is very poor for a company like Otis. Kone ecodisc and Mitsubishi MRL are the best on the market.
However high rise models by Otis are Elevonic 411 and SkyRise are the best.
@@benolifts no it was not thyssenkrupp’s fault!
What is your favorite thyssenkrupp?
I road this since December 2016 well I recorded the ELEVATOR so I didn't send into you T. beacause Iam 6 age
1:47 *NICE CHIME!!!!!!*
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