Lorenzo Maximo - Reminds me of a magazine article back in the late '70s, a guy got tired of blowing up his 350 in a '70 Corvette. Swapped in a a '69 428 Super Cobra Jet. Not sure why, but I got the feeling he was getting PISSED at the Chubby engine. Never heard what happened, but he did say he hadn't had any problems with it for a couple thousand miles...
Lorenzo I love your idea I just love it I wish I could watch some of your races and their faces when they find out that is Ford Motor power first on race day Lorenzo fast on race day and last but certainly not least Lorenzo ferocious on race day no damn to bitten junk Chevrolet
Yo Allen I love the idea love it love it love it it's too bad I couldn't be at any of those races take a snapshot of the Bowtie faces when he lifts up that hood to see that it's a Ford willing all them races you have a great night you have a great night Allen take care buddy
@@jimdavidson5208 so how much Nitro methane you using 98% don't calculate best 702 with 14-71 blower 75% over drive running methanol is 3000hp with some booster juice on dyno for pulling truck
I built a 521 Stroker using a production block for my Jet boat 10 years ago . I have beat on it since day 1 all summer long every summer since built and it's never given me a single issue other than fuel consumption. But Wow is it mean as hell. I can run a consistent 96. - 101 mph on GPS @ WOT and the place diverter just a hair above level. Difference in speed due to conditions on water and humidity
The Stock Ford 460 Blocks are Very Strong to Start with. They aren't Nothing Like the 87-93 302 Blocks, That have a Tendency to split in Half once you hit about 550 H.P.
What's so great about the 385's Ford is that when you start getting up in HP and C.I....Ford are cheaper to build than Chevy...And yes there's just as many aftermarket parts for BBF as there's for BBC. I'd love to build on of these on of these days. Cool video.
Exactly..That's what a lot of people don't realize because Chevy didn't sell that many big blocks back in the day..People that bought GM big blocks bought them in Pontiacs,Buicks,and Oldsmobiles which are different than the 454s..Now Ford used the same 460 in everything from Lincolns to T-birds to the Mercs and big Ford LTDs and Trucks,not to mention marine applications..There are a lot of big block Fords that can be had cheap..Now the Chevy Big blocks are getting somewhat popular with crate engines.
Paul Wilson he is actually quite correct in that Chevrolet didn't have a car line that had the big block as base model or only engine offered like Ford did . Ford Thunderbirds in 69 got the big block standard along with many other car lines . So there are substantially much more BBF engine cores and factory parts available then Chevrolet
My question is why are 4 bolt mains still desirable when modern GM LS and Ford 347 engine blocks are all 2 bolt mains and are capable almost 1000hp . Not to mention there has long been debate about the removal of material in the 4 bolt process making the block actually weaker . Just thinking out loud , but input and other views are enjoyed
I am very seriously considering running a big block in the new Ford F-650 or F-750 truck BUT i need to run it on propane. It will be towing a medium weight trailer, of about 12,000 pounds. I want to run the longest stroke i can get, so get low RPM torque. Since propane has a 37 percent hydrogen content, it burns very, very hot. That means the new racing block is no good, because it does not have water jackets between each cylinder. You need that extra cooling, that the old block offers with it's full water jackets, if you are running more than normal power. My three different fleets of V8 cars and trucks ran on propane for over 25 million miles since 1983, so i know what is required to prevent the engine for overheating. Propane requires a full synthetic engine oil as well, to get some additional cooling and i will also run the waterless coolant that NASCAR racers use, which also allows a drop in water temps of another 30 degrees F and gives much more even cooling on the cylinder walls. Propane is very cheap, costing about one third the cost of low octane gasoline. My engine will use propane fuel injecotrs made by Bosch, which are much better quality, than the el cheapo italian propane injectors that Rousch uses for the factory Fords. We have used the Bosch propane fuel injectors for the past 11 years and the earliest that one failed in thousands of vehicles was at 425,000 miles. I am not interested in high RPM, only a max of about 2800 RPM, but it must have at least 775 to 850 pounds feet of torque coming in at 1800 to 2000 RPM. The $1500 cost savings, even after adding the extra cost center main 4 bolt caps, machine work and block fill to make it stronger, the old block is the only way to go. i will run a low pressure turbo, only 7 to 9 pounds of pressure at 2100 RPM, to add the low RPM torque that i need.
I had a 1971 government issued 460 CJ and said that between lifters it had a 4 bolt Main five of them 535 horses only Built 200 something of I had to 63rd and one come out of the South Texas border patrol car 1971 Galaxie
For heavens sake people put the damn camera on a tripod, whoever is holding the camera has a bad case of the shivers. So much so I can't watch the video without feeling ill!
Ok I built a 78 Ford F-150 4x4 but put a stock 460 out of a 95 f350 with efi computer and wire if harness in wanting twin turbos in the future but not wanting massive power right away as it's really just a vehicle to go out and drive around should I have the motor built to hold the power I'd have it freshened up but do I need to go full internals or would stock internals be fine only wanting about 400 at the crank also what problems could I run into on a c6 trans
@@alanhardman2447 Exactly, My 86 Mustang Running Low to Mid Nines with a Mildly Built Pump Gas 460 Block. On 275/60 Drag Radials through a 4150 Carb. N/A Out of the Box Trickflow 429/460 Street/Strip Heads and a Mild Solid Roller.
Jim Clarke - The "engine builder", you say? A student whose only comment is, "makes it stronger." Problem with this "engine builder" is that he gave you everything last ounce of knowledge he had within the first 70 seconds. PHR's interviewer was simply trying to find more in Chris's empty skull...
Daniel Bargas haha you probably never will we ran nitrous through a stock 460 block when i first started racing and i never broke its block (in my mustang)
Daniel Bargas ....ive put splayed caps on the 3 center mains..on 3 1970 blocks....my good motor makes 900...i hit it with another 250....never lost a block....when I ran 302's....i split 2 of them...almost in half....Im a working class guy....Factory 460 blocks are pretty rugged....big difference between $1000 And $3000 for aftermarket....
I’m a ford boy and I’ve been a ford boy all my life but still I’m tired of looking at a crank that hangs out of a block like dog balls. Why not take a page out of Hemi and GM blocks. Bring the skirt down and give it 6 bolt mains or something even better than the others have. Get real ford boys lift your game for Pete’s sake your still 60 years behind with the big block.
A powerglide or c6 can take a ton of abuse. And cages are average things, a 10.25 diff and a few other things. Engines are not all equal. But other parts are a standard affair so to speak
Screw-in plugs do NOT make the block "stronger". You're just removing MORE MATERIAL from the block for the THREADS and creating a TON of extra "stress risers" and the plugs are trying to distort and "spread" their bores. They're necessary on poorly-engineered "high performance" blocks where you have to run very high coolant flow and pressure to "cool" the engine "properly" and where flexing and expansion and contraction of the block would otherwise let "press fit" core plugs "pop out".
Wow, so much wrong here; you used the proper term 'core plugs', but that's it. All that blather about poorly engineered hi perf blocks and stress risers is so much hooey. Talk to Trans Am engine builders for the straight scoop.
BS dude evidently your not a real engineer engine builder properly installed screw in freeze plugs do add rigidity if yr an idiot n over torque you have excessive distortion n block breakage for this point ,, always torque screw in freeze plug to lower standard then do yr machine work
@@badass6.0powerstroke10 *knew. Also, upper and lower case letters. Perhaps consider night classes. All of this will be of great value when attempting to read instructions to assemble engines.
I'm building one of these Ford Motors to put in my 69 Nova just to piss people off.
How's it going?
Please do it, just to show up all the Fox bodies that had Chevy's put in em
Lorenzo Maximo - Reminds me of a magazine article back in the late '70s, a guy got tired of blowing up his 350 in a '70 Corvette. Swapped in a a '69 428 Super Cobra Jet. Not sure why, but I got the feeling he was getting PISSED at the Chubby engine. Never heard what happened, but he did say he hadn't had any problems with it for a couple thousand miles...
Lorenzo I love your idea I just love it I wish I could watch some of your races and their faces when they find out that is Ford Motor power first on race day Lorenzo fast on race day and last but certainly not least Lorenzo ferocious on race day no damn to bitten junk Chevrolet
Yo Allen I love the idea love it love it love it it's too bad I couldn't be at any of those races take a snapshot of the Bowtie faces when he lifts up that hood to see that it's a Ford willing all them races you have a great night you have a great night Allen take care buddy
Great block. Have one in my lincoln build. 547 bbf . Trickflow heads intake. A460 block rossler 210 xhd trans and awaiting 118mm turbo. 2500 hp build
+Majestic Sombrero Don't hold your breath. Guess mine makes 8600HP all day long too. LOL
+black terry Yeah most definitely, upload so videos of your car when you get it done. I bet it's going to be one hell of a ride.
+jim davidson Um, 8600 HP?
john hoyt Pl
@@jimdavidson5208 so how much Nitro methane you using 98% don't calculate best 702 with 14-71 blower 75% over drive running methanol is 3000hp with some booster juice on dyno for pulling truck
My stock block has held 1300 hp !! I have a turboed 552 engine .
Engine dyno or to the wheels ?!
chris seems to be overflowing with both knowledge and personality.
Do I assume this project has been canned? Nearly 2 years since anything and was looking forward to seeing it come together
My first car was a 460 T-bird. One of my lotto win cars would be another one with this engine.
I've seen those blocks hold 10,500,rpm not for long but I've seen it .
its not about the block its about the piston speed and stroke.
I built a 521 Stroker using a production block for my Jet boat 10 years ago . I have beat on it since day 1 all summer long every summer since built and it's never given me a single issue other than fuel consumption. But Wow is it mean as hell. I can run a consistent 96. - 101 mph on GPS @ WOT and the place diverter just a hair above level. Difference in speed due to conditions on water and humidity
The Stock Ford 460 Blocks are Very Strong to Start with. They aren't Nothing Like the 87-93 302 Blocks, That have a Tendency to split in Half once you hit about 550 H.P.
I too have a 521 Stroked 460 Bored .030" Over and a Awesome SCAT 4.30" Crankshaft.
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! SOMETHING TO CONSIDER!!!! THANKS FOR SHARING!!!!
Can this be in street driving applications?
What's so great about the 385's Ford is that when you start getting up in HP and C.I....Ford are cheaper to build than Chevy...And yes there's just as many aftermarket parts for BBF as there's for BBC. I'd love to build on of these on of these days. Cool video.
Exactly..That's what a lot of people don't realize because Chevy didn't sell that many big blocks back in the day..People that bought GM big blocks bought them in Pontiacs,Buicks,and Oldsmobiles which are different than the 454s..Now Ford used the same 460 in everything from Lincolns to T-birds to the Mercs and big Ford LTDs and Trucks,not to mention marine applications..There are a lot of big block Fords that can be had cheap..Now the Chevy Big blocks are getting somewhat popular with crate engines.
Dude what the FUCK are you talking about? BBC has been around for years. Shit the 396 chevy was out way before the 385 series Ford
ford all the way.......
john hoyt he didn't say they haven't been around. Just that most were of the other variety ...Pontiac, Buick, Olds
Paul Wilson he is actually quite correct in that Chevrolet didn't have a car line that had the big block as base model or only engine offered like Ford did . Ford Thunderbirds in 69 got the big block standard along with many other car lines . So there are substantially much more BBF engine cores and factory parts available then Chevrolet
So ,what heads have the extra bolt holes? Do you not use the extra holes if your heads don't have the extra holes?
Did Michael J. Fox hold the camera?
yeah..not cool......but funny. I'm sure MJF would have laughed at this zinger...
The video fails to mention how to utilize the extra head bolts. Are special heads and head gaskets required.?
James Henry check out my vid. 460 cobra jet. cole bybee
James Henry - He's not sure (he told us ALL he knows), yes, and yes.
How is this block for a street driven car? Does it run hot without water jackets?
Nunya Buizness uhhhh? Yeah, it comes with a can of unicorns farts to keep it cool.... water jackets are sooooo vw....
@@theravedaddy I heard of that Before. Can you please Mail Me an Extra Can of Unicorn Farts, if you have Any, I'm Running Low...
Ok I know what I'm going to do now thanks for the info.
Fire the Camera Man Please, can't do camera work and definetly Can't do Audio Right...
Hand the other guy a damn microphone!
So what is the HP/TQ limit on a production 460 block
@billyfromtheusa flint is a joke bud. Im from MI. And there are a few good builders. But flint is a joke in every regard.
did they ever complete this project? or did they run out of dollars?
My question is why are 4 bolt mains still desirable when modern GM LS and Ford 347 engine blocks are all 2 bolt mains and are capable almost 1000hp . Not to mention there has long been debate about the removal of material in the 4 bolt process making the block actually weaker . Just thinking out loud , but input and other views are enjoyed
It's been my understanding that the best of the LS blocks use six bolt mains.
All factory ls blocks are 4 bolt main with 2 cross bolts
I am very seriously considering running a big block in the new Ford F-650 or F-750 truck BUT i need to run it on propane. It will be towing a medium weight trailer, of about 12,000 pounds. I want to run the longest stroke i can get, so get low RPM torque. Since propane has a 37 percent hydrogen content, it burns very, very hot. That means the new racing block is no good, because it does not have water jackets between each cylinder. You need that extra cooling, that the old block offers with it's full water jackets, if you are running more than normal power. My three different fleets of V8 cars and trucks ran on propane for over 25 million miles since 1983, so i know what is required to prevent the engine for overheating. Propane requires a full synthetic engine oil as well, to get some additional cooling and i will also run the waterless coolant that NASCAR racers use, which also allows a drop in water temps of another 30 degrees F and gives much more even cooling on the cylinder walls. Propane is very cheap, costing about one third the cost of low octane gasoline. My engine will use propane fuel injecotrs made by Bosch, which are much better quality, than the el cheapo italian propane injectors that Rousch uses for the factory Fords. We have used the Bosch propane fuel injectors for the past 11 years and the earliest that one failed in thousands of vehicles was at 425,000 miles. I am not interested in high RPM, only a max of about 2800 RPM, but it must have at least 775 to 850 pounds feet of torque coming in at 1800 to 2000 RPM. The $1500 cost savings, even after adding the extra cost center main 4 bolt caps, machine work and block fill to make it stronger, the old block is the only way to go. i will run a low pressure turbo, only 7 to 9 pounds of pressure at 2100 RPM, to add the low RPM torque that i need.
Propane burns COOLER than any grade of gasoline. Reasearch, buddy, research.
@@alanhardman2447 And you can also use it in your Grill, and Cook up some Burgers And Dogs at a Picnic.
I had a 1971 government issued 460 CJ and said that between lifters it had a 4 bolt Main five of them 535 horses only Built 200 something of I had to 63rd and one come out of the South Texas border patrol car 1971 Galaxie
Bullshit.
I Never Heard of No such Thing.
did you say a PAIR of turbos
Wondering why only the middle 3 mains are 4 bolt?.
I believe to keep the same style oil pan as the stock bolt pattern oil pan.
4 bolt is an obvious improvement but aren't you still going to have cap walk at high rpm?
Why is it an improvement when block material is removed in the process
For heavens sake people put the damn camera on a tripod, whoever is holding the camera has a bad case of the shivers. So much so I can't watch the video without feeling ill!
Ok I built a 78 Ford F-150 4x4 but put a stock 460 out of a 95 f350 with efi computer and wire if harness in wanting twin turbos in the future but not wanting massive power right away as it's really just a vehicle to go out and drive around should I have the motor built to hold the power I'd have it freshened up but do I need to go full internals or would stock internals be fine only wanting about 400 at the crank also what problems could I run into on a c6 trans
bobhilly546312156332 stock C-6 trans are good to800hp in big block bell housing form
400hp is wussie-boy stuff for the 385.
@@alanhardman2447 Exactly, My 86 Mustang Running Low to Mid Nines with a Mildly Built Pump Gas 460 Block. On 275/60 Drag Radials through a 4150 Carb. N/A Out of the Box Trickflow 429/460 Street/Strip Heads and a Mild Solid Roller.
What is the material.
Thirsty Spongebob Spongebobtanium.
Ductile iron.
It's Called Metal.
Stupid questions, let the engine builder fully explain the deal
Jim Clarke - The "engine builder", you say? A student whose only comment is, "makes it stronger." Problem with this "engine builder" is that he gave you everything last ounce of knowledge he had within the first 70 seconds. PHR's interviewer was simply trying to find more in Chris's empty skull...
For the street, stock block is plenty.
@black terry, have you built it yet?
I believe a drunk person with Parkinson's could hold that camera more still than this. I couldn't finish the video.
Where is Bob Glidden.
gut sounds like hes falling asleep
Wow
For an extra 1600 when a built production block is 1000
Sorry but I'm poor when I break my production block I might upgrade
Daniel Bargas haha you probably never will we ran nitrous through a stock 460 block when i first started racing and i never broke its block (in my mustang)
+connor jones mines a nitrous fully built 460
I'm gonna make love to that BBF
Daniel Bargas ....ive put splayed caps on the 3 center mains..on 3 1970 blocks....my good motor makes 900...i hit it with another 250....never lost a block....when I ran 302's....i split 2 of them...almost in half....Im a working class guy....Factory 460 blocks are pretty rugged....big difference between $1000 And $3000 for aftermarket....
@@immortallyinsane3945 Right, Made my Pecker Hard when i saw That Huge Block.
too bad this could have been a good video but no sound and poor taping ruined it.
I’m a ford boy and I’ve been a ford boy all my life but still I’m tired of looking at a crank that hangs out of a block like dog balls. Why not take a page out of Hemi and GM blocks. Bring the skirt down and give it 6 bolt mains or something even better than the others have. Get real ford boys lift your game for Pete’s sake your still 60 years behind with the big block.
sound quality was horrid, should have overdubbed
Scott Striker Ford engine casting numbers d7te a2b
2000+ HP IN A '93 MUSTANG AND ITS THE "BLOCK" THEY WORRY ABOUT? LOL.
A powerglide or c6 can take a ton of abuse. And cages are average things, a 10.25 diff and a few other things. Engines are not all equal. But other parts are a standard affair so to speak
Yes, the 87-93 302 Blocks Are known to Split right in Half once you get up there about 550 H.P.
It's Very Common.
Screw-in plugs do NOT make the block "stronger". You're just removing MORE MATERIAL from the block for the THREADS and creating a TON of extra "stress risers" and the plugs are trying to distort and "spread" their bores. They're necessary on poorly-engineered "high performance" blocks where you have to run very high coolant flow and pressure to "cool" the engine "properly" and where flexing and expansion and contraction of the block would otherwise let "press fit" core plugs "pop out".
Wow, so much wrong here; you used the proper term 'core plugs', but that's it. All that blather about poorly engineered hi perf blocks and stress risers is so much hooey. Talk to Trans Am engine builders for the straight scoop.
Yes, it Actually Does. Ford New this back in 1969 With the Boss 302 Makes the Block More Stable and Sturdy.
Damn, the More i read your Comment, the More you are SO WRONG.
BS dude evidently your not a real engineer engine builder properly installed screw in freeze plugs do add rigidity if yr an idiot n over torque you have excessive distortion n block breakage for this point ,, always torque screw in freeze plug to lower standard then do yr machine work
@@badass6.0powerstroke10 *knew.
Also, upper and lower case letters.
Perhaps consider night classes.
All of this will be of great value when attempting to read instructions to assemble engines.
W
Just stop yapping and drop the damn thing off here at the house already!!!
Use a microphone !!!!!!!
bad audio/camera
Ford no the motors 454 the 454 is chevrolets ford is one 460 sure
yall did poor job with this video