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On todays show I discuss Ortofon VNL and why I think the new styli might be perfect needle for any type of DJ. Skilled DJs demand specialized tools that can help them push their creativity to the edge - consistently testing the boundaries in the realm of performance.
3 different feels to fine-tune your performance
To match the multiple applications of modern DJs the VNL Introduction Package includes 3 different styli with suspension types of varying feel and rigidity:
The VNL features a spherical stylus which is perfect for tough groove handling. Furthermore, it reduces record wear when scratching and back-cueing to an absolute minimum.
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Jico makes FANTASTIC styli for the M44-7! I've used them for the past couple years and they're lovely.
Yes especially the red Jico Scratch
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just jump a lot when backspin
@@che-t5476 Just gotta break them in. Let them sit on a record while you’re gone. Trust me
@@gorillatekdrummajorz I've been trying for days, but it still jumps. Jico with timecod is good, but not with a real record
@@che-t5476 Did you purchase from Jico’s website?
Finally! I was using the Jico Shure "like" styli but wasn't getting the distance with them that I did with the Shure's.
Ortofon has been on the scene for sometime and it was just a matter of time before they came out with this type of styli, good for them and great for us vnl heads.
Keep up the great work DJ Keo...appreciate your perspective on things.
Appreciate it, yeah thats the thing I keep hearing about the Jico I am really hoping that Ortofon has a winner here.
I just got Jicos, and they just aren't the same. Not as crisp sounding and the low end is muddy sounding, and the tacking is fair at best (I haven't had very good luck scratching with it) as it jumps out of the groove constantly. Sometimes it even jumps a couple of grooves over. It's very rigid feeling, also it feels like it digs into the record a lot and burns. I am sure they are fine for just general playback, and three cheers for Jico for making them, but for serious DJing I don't feel secure and satisfied with them.
It took a couple weeks to break in the Jico's, before they stopped skipping. I had them set at a 23 degree angle for two weeks and now I got them sitting straight on the headshell. Weight set at 3 grams, height at 3 and antiskate at 0.
Not happy with jicos
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i have several Jico needles but i am not happy with them. with real vinyls, spinning backwards involves frequent jumps
Definitely picking these up. Breaking out the old technics headshells
Hmmm, different firmness for different nights!
It's time to get wild again!
Cool Ortofon needles, I hope they are as good as the Shure M44-7. Jico makes good replacements ( N44-7 stylus tips only). They will be making cartridges soon for m44-7. I have some Jico's, great after they break in, no skips for scratching! Tip: I used the 23 degree angle trick to break them in faster for a couple weeks. Then mounted them straight after. It worked great for me.
I've seen a few people talking about the Jicos how long do they last?
I've had the Jico's about a year now and scratch and juggle on them a few days a week. Very little record wear with them and they're still doing great. I'll probably try out the new Ortofon VNL once they are available.
Great needle so far, put it in my OMNI Portable Turntable. And moved my QBert OM over to my Reloop Spin Portable Turntable. Still putting my MG44-7 on my Audio-Technica AT-LP 140XP though. But the Ortofon VNL is definitely a solid score!.... 💯🔥👍💪🙏🎶🎵🌎
I was just looking for a needle and wanted to find something just like this the best of both worlds. I think you can order them now with a small wait. Thanks for your input.
I play on turntables week in week out with either DVS or the real thing. Will definitely be making use of this.
Cheers for the video and explanation man. You've prompted me to order these beauties!! Big ups from Melbourne, subscribed.
How did you like them
thanks for this video!
Works great at 2,5 grams without compromising skipping and sound quality , cartridge is sort if light there’s no need in extra weight
Plenty of stock still of the intro kit.. might not be as good value when they stop the intro special though (with the two replacement styli, you may or may not ever use if you prefer one over the other). But still great way to give us a way to try the three options.
Can these be used for standard mixing / back cueing or are they strictly for scratching ?
On a serious note... Isnt VNL more suited for turntablism & DJing on time coded vinyl for Serato/Rekordbox etc?
I am going to try these needles but i do like the qbert ortofon needles alot
Hi Keo..are you able to describe differences in between this one and Ortofon Club Mk2? Thanks!
My M44G's have served me for 13 years. It's ridiculous that I haven't had to replace them. This is the answer. Thank you!
Got can get replacement stylus by JICO from Turntable Lab NY. But VNL seems like a good bank for the buck.
Haha. Goldilocks of needles. I will try to get a pair when they drop. Hopefully they are not like some of their past models cause I have some scratch records that have serious burn form concords that I used in the past.
Hopefully those sound good and don’t tear up your records like the finger style Ortofon
RIP Shure 44 7 cartridge the best I don't know about the jico needle got to buy one this week so I could check it out
I heard it's a mixed bag some are good some or really bad. When you get yours shoot me a message I would love to hear your thoughts on it as a alternative
Are the VINL Better than the Jico Stylie ?
2 weeks in, and the VNL is the TRUTH. I've been a 44-7 owner for 2 decades.. I'm done overpaying. This is truly a fantastic cart. Tracks amazingly at 3g on my straight arms. Doing tears as fast as I possibly can, and they hold true.
Such a f**king deal too.
Even at 6mv i found these are very punchy and cleaner than my 44s.
@@ajohnstitch agreed. They just sound great, and they track fantastic
Did you get the version with the 3 styli? If so, which of the 3 would you say is best for scratching?!
Ive just bought the VNL’s but i only mix / back cue, no scratching. Do you think the VNL’s will chew up real vinyl at 4g’s ?
What's the 411 for this cart for just playin back abused vinyl from the Herc days ? I need somethin to make 45 yr old vinyl sound better.
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Dope cartridge they good with real vinyl record too lest skip than the Shure m 44 7 they are straight for turntablist DJ oh regular DJ man they dope for scratch n back cue ortofon vnl did a good job for us turntablist way better than the Shure I use those for over 20 years they were ok but not that great the ortofon vnl is way better don't need enough time so the cartridge could break in once you put it on the groove it don't skip with real vinyl record I was shock n for the price is dope 👍😎 sound Good too it is a DJ cartridge for truntablis oh regular mix DJ they great cartridge
Do you think 4g’s will wear real vinyl records out though ?
Hi, I bought new Ortofon VNL, mounted it on Ortofon SH-4 and finally on my technics 1210 MK5. The problem is that the 0mm tonearm height is not enough - I cant set the tonearm lower then 0mm. So it seems impossible to align tonearm on MK5 when using ortofon VNL. Anyone else having the same problem? any ideas how to fix this? thanks!
I am going to have to buy a new head it will not fit on mine. That is one thig that needs to be mentioned.
Why only 6Mv output ? with crap phono signals on new mixer they better boost them a tad !
Good catch, I think most pro dj mixers produce a high enough signal so it wont be a issue but this might be a problem for audiophiles
Shure M44-G has the same output and I've never had volume issues with those. M44-7 has 9-10mV and those are really loud.
its still way higher than the replacements i use on my stantons lol, itll still be more than good enough and most of my shit is mastered too loud
You should have the product before you review .
Dude fuck the M44. You can’t get em so they are not relevant