Mini encounter explanations in the best way I can articulate for those interested in trying to understand what's going on: 1st: - Split into two teams of 3, one goes to corner rooms, one goes to sides - Each team will be made of a Sender, Receiver and "Floater" - First set of rooms doesn't matter, whoever gets champ first kill and get back to mid - On second set of rooms, once you get to your 2nd room one team will see either the plate/obelisk lit up, this means you are the sending side. If you do not see either this means you will be 2nd champ. - Sender and Receiver on the respective team that gets early plate/obelisk will spawn their resonance while the other team kills their champ. The floater for this team will be in middle and grab the middle resonance that spawns. This person will go over to the other sides obelisk once it is open and close it for them, making it so the champ side never needs to spawn resonance in a phase. - (Slightly more complicated) The Sender on the champ side will send for the Floater, so this leaves the Receiver on champside with no job. If you wish you can go into the receiving room of the plate/obelisk side and try to grab extra resonance before it despawns as it is hard for them to grab all stacks and close in time on their own. 2nd: - Split into two teams of 2 for the Left and Right sides and leave the Titan to solo Middle. - When call happens, send each person to middle and break blights. The people on Left and Right that do not get Stolen Favor will be the senders, and the people that do have it will receive/close. - The two people sending on Left and Right should communicate who will hold circles and who will hold triangles. When your side is closed, the Titan will call what symbol is needed in middle and you close it for him. (Titan sends for the closer in middle. Once you have sent you should start stacking wormgod stacks for damage) - Damage is a Nav/Banner Titan that swaps to Tractor, and 4 Still Hunt + Super Celestials. One stillhunt will swap to a Wolfpack Ergo Sum after shooting, and one person will be on an attrition orbs sword for radiant orbs/resto. All other people should be on relentless+Whirlwind sword of the matching weekly surge. 3rd: - Split into 3 teams of two - When tormentors are dead, send once and receive once. Once you have received symbols will spawn. - All 3 people at the receiving plate will grab a single symbol of the ones they are spawning (Ex. in First Room Left will grab Square, Middle Circle and Right Triangle) - Go to your respective obelisk callout and close, repeat for all 3 rooms - !Avoid Softlocking! Currently there is a bug where if multiple obelisks close at the same time, the box will not appear. To try to mitigate this, we have middle plate and the person receiving said send delay as much as possible. 4th: - This encounter has 3 rules you have to learn to solve inside, no matter the rng it will always be distribute your original 2 symbols, grab your 2 new ones and leave. - If everyone is matching inside: Give one symbol to each statue that is not yours, then kill ogre and grab new symbols to leave - If a single person is matching inside: The person with matching symbols will distribute as normal, one to each statue that is not theirs. The two people who are not matching, will look at the symbols they have on their wall. The rule is to dunk your symbol in the statue of the person that is not matching. Then you send your other symbol to the matching person. After this everyone can kill ogre, grab new symbols and leave. - If no one inside is matching: Look at your wall and see what two symbols you have. You want to dunk both symbols one at a time inside the statue of the one you are missing. Ex: If you have a triangle and square on your wall, you will dunk a triangle into circle and then the square into circle as well. - There are plenty of things to explain outside already so I will just include this little tip, the first 3 dunks of the encounter will always match the inside call. So for example if the call is TSC, the first three dunks will always be Triangle in Left, Square in Middle, Circle on Right. - When it is time for outside ghosts, on set 1 and 2, 3 people will die to make it so you only have to dunk 2 ghosts to end the phase. On final phase 4 people will die so that you only have to dunk a single ghost. 5th: - Have 3 people dedicated to getting each buff, read your arm for people while you are getting it (If you would like to account for all rng, you can have 2 people getting each buff, in case of a scenario like you have 2 circle bands out of the 3 hands present) - You can break multiple glyphs if you shoot a projectile like a mtop/rocket and shoot another glyph with something like a sniper as they hit. See other povs to see this being done successfully. I know most will not care to read all of this, but hopefully for those really interested this was able to at least help one person :)
@@CodForTheUs Right clicking with a vortex frame is less damage then just spamming left. You still want to right click whenever you have it with adaptives, which is what the other people who are using the levi sword are doing, I just don't have the sword so I'm using a guillotine.
As someone who's Sherpa'd the raid a couple times, I will say that it's impossible for me to explain the full 4th in a way that makes sense in under 25 minutes. It's just a complicated encounter and there's not much you can do to change it.
@@Bop.-. Inside: Match shapes to calls to in tcs t gets triangles c gets circles s gets squares, after that send both of your shapes to the other 2 Outside: Make the T call shape a cylinder, the C call a triangular prism, and the S call a Cone After all that everyone spread out and give calls for ghosts one by one
My first run took me 5 hours learning with 5 other randoms all doing it for the first time. We all had a blast. Difficulty doesn’t take away from enjoyment if you’re with the right people
I was a multi top 10 US mythic raider in world of warcraft for just about a decade and the 4th encounter still scrambles my brain a little, I played a bunch of destiny on and off since the beginning and decided to pick it up seriously at the end of lightfall going into final shape and I gotta say, it feels really weird being a scrub in an MMO again D:
What do you mean 'Multi top 10 US mythic Raider'? Do you have any proof to back this up? What raids have you cleared where you were the 'top 10'? And what guilds were you apart of? What is your main char name? Do you have a raiderio link? Right off the top it seems like you are capping. I hope you can prove me wrong.
I have not played d2 in 6+ months but I love how casuals will still hate on speedruns (not counting runs over skating, leaving + joining etc.) Never change d2 casual comm, never change.
Till you mess up lol then all hell breaks loose😂 one wipe and someone’s getting chewed😂. When you’re pc, you’re pro, but pc players demand perfection. It’s like a bar they’ve set lol. I’ve found some cool pc players here and there but usually it people who play on both console and pc. Last time I was in an all pc game there was a lot of yelling and lack of perfection. While it’s cool to be at the top of the destiny charts I’d rather run a raid that takes 4 hours and everyone be cool and just have fun rather than constant yelling which wasn’t enjoyable. 🤷🏾♂️
Speed running is a lot of fun and most speed runners are pretty chill because we know it takes us a lot of testing and failure to actually get that "one" run where it all clicks and then it's just testing our luck with how far we can push it.
Can i ask, what does the speedrun community think of perks like heal clip? Im no speedrunner but personally it feels like a wasted perk. Most meta builds already have plenty of survivability. You think the solar sidearm will take The Call out of the meta? Im guessing itll still be the Call when Martyrs comes out later in the season
Heal clip doesn’t have any use in any -5 to on power content speed wise since if you ever get to the point where you need it there is already other problems at hand
Impressive run!! 2 questions. 1. What is your guillotine roll? I still need to farm a good one 2. At the Entrance, why air heavy attack with the ergo sum? is it faster than light? If so, does it require a certain frame to be faster?
Guillotine is just whirlwind relentless, which is craftable on other half as well And those are all left clicks, that’s just what aggressive frames look like
After 1.5 hours on encounter 4 and someone trying to explain it to me I still don’t understand encounter 4 maybe I won’t complete it and I can’t learn shit
Inside start Find urself Find ur shape Look at wall If both match ur shape sit patiently If one is diff get rid of the one you are not holding by giving it to the guardian who is holding said shape Once all 3 confirm they have 2 of there shapes give one of ur shape to each guardian once you get the 2 shapes ur guardian is not holding pick both up and walk through glass wall
Tbh, because I don’t know wtf is going on…it looks the same to me as day one. Excepttttt you seem to be progressing. (Yes I know that’s exactly what this is💀)
Shatter skating on hunter, all you need is a eager edge sword and shatterdive aspect. There's tons of tutorials on it, it's pretty easy and really fun once you get it
4th encounter be like Inside start Find urself Find ur shape Look at wall If both match ur shape sit patiently If one is diff get rid of the one you are not holding by giving it to the guardian who is holding said shape Once all 3 confirm they have 2 of there shapes give one of ur shape to each guardian once you get the 2 shapes ur guardian is not holding pick both up and walk through glass wall
@@A2TC because the team is skipping entire parts of the raid. to me if its going to be a legit record, it has to be done in one run with out leaving and rejoining (unless its for bugs or error codes)
@Bumpster01 the thing is, it's just not a cheese, it's an intended way the game works. And every part of the raid is still being done, some parts are just done with less people. Would also like to say, if it wasn't possible to leave and do 2-3 early as seen in the video, we would all be doing it, only reason we do it the way we do it is because it's the fastest way, which is kinda the point of a speedrun.
@@Bumpster01it is literally harder to 5man the encounter with one person skipping. Stop the yapping ffs. Actually unreal how it’s been 10 years and ppl still comment this on every speedrun video.
Mini encounter explanations in the best way I can articulate for those interested in trying to understand what's going on:
1st:
- Split into two teams of 3, one goes to corner rooms, one goes to sides
- Each team will be made of a Sender, Receiver and "Floater"
- First set of rooms doesn't matter, whoever gets champ first kill and get back to mid
- On second set of rooms, once you get to your 2nd room one team will see either the plate/obelisk lit up, this means you are the sending side. If you do not see either this means you will be 2nd champ.
- Sender and Receiver on the respective team that gets early plate/obelisk will spawn their resonance while the other team kills their champ. The floater for this team will be in middle and grab the middle resonance that spawns. This person will go over to the other sides obelisk once it is open and close it for them, making it so the champ side never needs to spawn resonance in a phase.
- (Slightly more complicated) The Sender on the champ side will send for the Floater, so this leaves the Receiver on champside with no job. If you wish you can go into the receiving room of the plate/obelisk side and try to grab extra resonance before it despawns as it is hard for them to grab all stacks and close in time on their own.
2nd:
- Split into two teams of 2 for the Left and Right sides and leave the Titan to solo Middle.
- When call happens, send each person to middle and break blights. The people on Left and Right that do not get Stolen Favor will be the senders, and the people that do have it will receive/close.
- The two people sending on Left and Right should communicate who will hold circles and who will hold triangles. When your side is closed, the Titan will call what symbol is needed in middle and you close it for him. (Titan sends for the closer in middle. Once you have sent you should start stacking wormgod stacks for damage)
- Damage is a Nav/Banner Titan that swaps to Tractor, and 4 Still Hunt + Super Celestials. One stillhunt will swap to a Wolfpack Ergo Sum after shooting, and one person will be on an attrition orbs sword for radiant orbs/resto. All other people should be on relentless+Whirlwind sword of the matching weekly surge.
3rd:
- Split into 3 teams of two
- When tormentors are dead, send once and receive once. Once you have received symbols will spawn.
- All 3 people at the receiving plate will grab a single symbol of the ones they are spawning (Ex. in First Room Left will grab Square, Middle Circle and Right Triangle)
- Go to your respective obelisk callout and close, repeat for all 3 rooms
- !Avoid Softlocking! Currently there is a bug where if multiple obelisks close at the same time, the box will not appear. To try to mitigate this, we have middle plate and the person receiving said send delay as much as possible.
4th:
- This encounter has 3 rules you have to learn to solve inside, no matter the rng it will always be distribute your original 2 symbols, grab your 2 new ones and leave.
- If everyone is matching inside: Give one symbol to each statue that is not yours, then kill ogre and grab new symbols to leave
- If a single person is matching inside: The person with matching symbols will distribute as normal, one to each statue that is not theirs. The two people who are not matching, will look at the symbols they have on their wall. The rule is to dunk your symbol in the statue of the person that is not matching. Then you send your other symbol to the matching person. After this everyone can kill ogre, grab new symbols and leave.
- If no one inside is matching: Look at your wall and see what two symbols you have. You want to dunk both symbols one at a time inside the statue of the one you are missing. Ex: If you have a triangle and square on your wall, you will dunk a triangle into circle and then the square into circle as well.
- There are plenty of things to explain outside already so I will just include this little tip, the first 3 dunks of the encounter will always match the inside call. So for example if the call is TSC, the first three dunks will always be Triangle in Left, Square in Middle, Circle on Right.
- When it is time for outside ghosts, on set 1 and 2, 3 people will die to make it so you only have to dunk 2 ghosts to end the phase. On final phase 4 people will die so that you only have to dunk a single ghost.
5th:
- Have 3 people dedicated to getting each buff, read your arm for people while you are getting it (If you would like to account for all rng, you can have 2 people getting each buff, in case of a scenario like you have 2 circle bands out of the 3 hands present)
- You can break multiple glyphs if you shoot a projectile like a mtop/rocket and shoot another glyph with something like a sniper as they hit. See other povs to see this being done successfully.
I know most will not care to read all of this, but hopefully for those really interested this was able to at least help one person :)
💪🏾
Is there a reason they didn’t use heavy attack during 2 encounter
@@CodForTheUs Right clicking with a vortex frame is less damage then just spamming left. You still want to right click whenever you have it with adaptives, which is what the other people who are using the levi sword are doing, I just don't have the sword so I'm using a guillotine.
@@sicrobes thank you!
Thanks sic your explanation of inside room is very dope
Yall did the whole raid in less time than most youtubers took to explain 4th. Good stuff
As someone who's Sherpa'd the raid a couple times, I will say that it's impossible for me to explain the full 4th in a way that makes sense in under 25 minutes. It's just a complicated encounter and there's not much you can do to change it.
@@Bop.-. it really isnt as complicated as people pretend it to be. But its indeed hard to explain to someone that doesnt understand it yet
@@Bop.-. agreed about the explanation part but after that it really is simple.
@@Bop.-.
Inside: Match shapes to calls to in tcs t gets triangles c gets circles s gets squares, after that send both of your shapes to the other 2
Outside: Make the T call shape a cylinder, the C call a triangular prism, and the S call a Cone
After all that everyone spread out and give calls for ghosts one by one
@@StrawberrySinjuexplaining ain’t the hard part. It’s the fact that people don’t understand after 30 mins of running and explanation
“Hey dude, wanna go to the bars in 30?”
“Yeah! I’m just gonna run a fresh Edge of Salvation real quick”
“Hey dude, wanna go to the bars in 30?”
“Yeah! I’m just gonna do the same joke at this speedrun real quick”
@@Nexalty womp womp
shoutout to the 4 ppl egoing door
What part do you mean?
@@GlueSmellsBad 1st enc
“Ain’t no one watching this s***”
I am 😢 14:04
11:38 They all look like ninjas spreading out in formation
bro watching too much naruto
i love how yall were still able to have fun while completing one of, if not the, hardest raid in destiny. good work
Speedrunning is very fun
My first run took me 5 hours learning with 5 other randoms all doing it for the first time. We all had a blast.
Difficulty doesn’t take away from enjoyment if you’re with the right people
Wow I can truly tell truly tell how much Sandy loves and respects his mother
I was a multi top 10 US mythic raider in world of warcraft for just about a decade and the 4th encounter still scrambles my brain a little, I played a bunch of destiny on and off since the beginning and decided to pick it up seriously at the end of lightfall going into final shape and I gotta say, it feels really weird being a scrub in an MMO again D:
You should put that first sentence in your resume
What do you mean 'Multi top 10 US mythic Raider'? Do you have any proof to back this up? What raids have you cleared where you were the 'top 10'? And what guilds were you apart of? What is your main char name? Do you have a raiderio link? Right off the top it seems like you are capping. I hope you can prove me wrong.
stop the cap
@@ggroovey ''I'm agressively average at everything I do so others must be too''
Btw you can revive as soon as the witness message pops up bottom left to save on an extra second or two from having to sword over to the second person
I have not played d2 in 6+ months but I love how casuals will still hate on speedruns (not counting runs over skating, leaving + joining etc.) Never change d2 casual comm, never change.
4th encounter strats go crazy damn
I was waiting for someone to post a speedrun for this raid. Glad you guys got it
Sheeesh. Raiding with you guys seems fun and chill.
Till you mess up lol then all hell breaks loose😂 one wipe and someone’s getting chewed😂. When you’re pc, you’re pro, but pc players demand perfection. It’s like a bar they’ve set lol. I’ve found some cool pc players here and there but usually it people who play on both console and pc. Last time I was in an all pc game there was a lot of yelling and lack of perfection. While it’s cool to be at the top of the destiny charts I’d rather run a raid that takes 4 hours and everyone be cool and just have fun rather than constant yelling which wasn’t enjoyable. 🤷🏾♂️
@@jordanE123 A whole lot of assumptions being made here
Speed running is a lot of fun and most speed runners are pretty chill because we know it takes us a lot of testing and failure to actually get that "one" run where it all clicks and then it's just testing our luck with how far we can push it.
@@jordanE123wtf are u on
@@jordanE123these are just hard working people who worked for perfection i doubt any of them get that pissed
Can’t wait to see updated runs with sniper’s meditation active!
finally yall dropped the strats now im gonna gap yall
I am honestly just amazed by the level of skill and knowledge they have
can't wait until world record gets cut in less than half
finally salvation's speedrun! yippie
tell my goat sandy i miss him
Viewer at home saying hello
the movement tech at the start was clean
as a viewer at home i appreciate the information
Me who has not even done the raid a single time: Hmm...Interesting!
nah those transitions were so good, wp!
if nobody got me i know Salvation's Edge in 25 Minutes! (25:22) Speedrun World Record got me
I would love to see practice runs as well does he stream?
Can i ask, what does the speedrun community think of perks like heal clip?
Im no speedrunner but personally it feels like a wasted perk. Most meta builds already have plenty of survivability.
You think the solar sidearm will take The Call out of the meta? Im guessing itll still be the Call when Martyrs comes out later in the season
Heal clip doesn’t have any use in any -5 to on power content speed wise since if you ever get to the point where you need it there is already other problems at hand
Impressive run!!
2 questions.
1. What is your guillotine roll? I still need to farm a good one
2. At the Entrance, why air heavy attack with the ergo sum? is it faster than light? If so, does it require a certain frame to be faster?
Guillotine is just whirlwind relentless, which is craftable on other half as well
And those are all left clicks, that’s just what aggressive frames look like
@@sicrobes Oh okay Tysm! congrats on the time!!
Cant wait to see a run when ppl arent egoing door
is there not a temp perma for 5th? I now for a fact you can spawn warp there. Or is that just not been cooked yet?
Most of the time when you start encounter without hitting friendship door it either spawns 0 hands or it only spawns 1-2 and they don’t respawn
why do you wait until the last moment to ping a plate? you can send ping before the circle even appears as long as the incoming ping hits the plate
I’m the max delay sender in 3rd because if two of them close at the same time you softlock, this run is also over a month old
ah, that makes sense, I was very confused haha
are you guys just dunking 1 resonance each?
Big cheers from the viewers at home
2:19 bro almost got pushed into the harpy and died 💀
Why do you only pick up one pyramid resonance in substratum? Arent you supposed to have 3, then shoot the pillar to have 2 ready to dunk in the chest
bc they are doing it quickly they don’t need to reach full stacks to get max time.
and nowwww we gotta wait 3 weeks for surges to rotate so that people can run this again :DD
Wow 4 days ago and there’s already a speed run challenge
My phone started leaking from all the sweat in this video
Incredible witness kill
still have not seen attacks be desynced like that since
@@sicrobes typical🔥
As a viewer at home thank you
My favorite speed runner
you guys are soo good.
Omfg what did I just witness🔥🔥🔥
It’s always crazy to me that guys who are able to execute mechanics and skips like this are always like level 5s or some shit.
bc guardian ranks don’t mean anything
need someone who’s actually good at the game to help me, for Guillotine should i do all light attacks are 4 lights then a heavy repeated
all lights, the only frame you do heavy attacks on is adaptives, all others doing a right click is less than doing left the whole time
How did they chunk the boss health like that?
Multiple still hunts + Goldie + buffs/debuffs
After 1.5 hours on encounter 4 and someone trying to explain it to me I still don’t understand encounter 4 maybe I won’t complete it and I can’t learn shit
Inside start
Find urself
Find ur shape
Look at wall
If both match ur shape sit patiently
If one is diff get rid of the one you are not holding by giving it to the guardian who is holding said shape
Once all 3 confirm they have 2 of there shapes give one of ur shape to each guardian once you get the 2 shapes ur guardian is not holding pick both up and walk through glass wall
bro it took me 25 minutes to get a team together just to be stuck in 4th for 5 hours
amazing run! especially considering all encounters were still vanilla.
what frame ergo sum is that?
aggressive
@@sicrobes ty
I can’t even level up to start the raid and there’s already a speedrun :/
My friend tippy is also very goated at this raid
Love when you get tired of the game and are literally just talking like lifeless zombies have to comm with each other during Verity, ggs!
What hand cannon is this, 2 shotting a hydra :0
The Call, it’s a rocket sidearm
you guys flew through the first 3 encounters, how much resonance is needed per encounter to progress. coz my team send 4 times each? just curious
you only need enough to close the totem and dunk one in the box at the end each time, any extra is purely for extra time
6 hunters
How times have changed
breach executable speedrun when :3
good job connie!!!!!!!!
Why leave fireteam just to join again?
Far faster as it allows the jumping puzzle to be skipped
So they can go through the friendship doors to start the next encounter
Amazing run, you definitely deserve more subs. Count me as a +1.
Hey what do you have on your ergo sum for movement?
Aggressive frame, it doesn’t actually do anything special the left click just looks cooler
25mins of edging
For reference, they got insane RNG for the shapes on the 4th encounter, almost impossible odds to get all matching and they got it.
No matter the rng on insides for 4th, it always 2 interacts to get out. Should always be distribute your two symbols then grab your new ones and leave
It’s a long way from almost impossible odds. There aren’t that many combinations….
@@sicrobespeople don’t realize that you can just do that and so everyone does it where you get double of your corresponding symbol first
Jackpot
funny how A 2016 toyota corolla is a known netlimiter
Funny how nobody cheated in this run and your comment is straight yap.
Hes rta cope
i mean 1500 clips is smthn light, considering i deleted 4000 last week
bro
Tbh, because I don’t know wtf is going on…it looks the same to me as day one. Excepttttt you seem to be progressing. (Yes I know that’s exactly what this is💀)
Is bro glitching jumps? wtffff
how do u fly wtf
Shatter skating on hunter, all you need is a eager edge sword and shatterdive aspect. There's tons of tutorials on it, it's pretty easy and really fun once you get it
@@wesselbeans so u cant use prismatic hunter? must be statis hunter?
@@SirZalotyes only stasis its fairly easy but I would watch a tutorial (for a average player it will not save u much time in raids)
real BBB flag activity 🗣🔥
how the FUCK
goat
“2016 Toyota Corolla”💀💀💀
Huge
Is this the same Toyota Corolla that is a known ring 1 enjoyer?!?!?!
No hes rta
ZAMN!!!
Why dose Mr nobody hate you
The second you glitch, you're not eligible for WR
Mans probs has a 3h pr
no summum bonum 👎
#summumbonumsweep
Bro forcing his voice so much
why is there one dude like forcing his voice he sounds like he’s croaking wtf
This raid has way too many mechanics encounters, it could've used another boss instead of the repository encounter or all the jumping sections
4th encounter be like
Inside start
Find urself
Find ur shape
Look at wall
If both match ur shape sit patiently
If one is diff get rid of the one you are not holding by giving it to the guardian who is holding said shape
Once all 3 confirm they have 2 of there shapes give one of ur shape to each guardian once you get the 2 shapes ur guardian is not holding pick both up and walk through glass wall
Good job but I don’t call this a legit world record as you guys used the leaving game and rejoin cheese. Maybe do it without cheesing traversals
how is that cheesing 😭
@@A2TC because the team is skipping entire parts of the raid. to me if its going to be a legit record, it has to be done in one run with out leaving and rejoining (unless its for bugs or error codes)
@Bumpster01 the thing is, it's just not a cheese, it's an intended way the game works. And every part of the raid is still being done, some parts are just done with less people. Would also like to say, if it wasn't possible to leave and do 2-3 early as seen in the video, we would all be doing it, only reason we do it the way we do it is because it's the fastest way, which is kinda the point of a speedrun.
@@Bumpster01it is literally harder to 5man the encounter with one person skipping. Stop the yapping ffs. Actually unreal how it’s been 10 years and ppl still comment this on every speedrun video.
nah leviathan better
Cheaters plain and simple beat the raid without cheating
They did not cheat
Now do it without cheating scrubs
wow this was really cool I like the part where you..
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Getting outside of the map is just cheating and doesn't count 😂
Let’s see u do it ?
Me when I’m wrong and bad at the game
So is this fun is this game is this what destiny meant to be .. Very poor
Yea
No this isn't what it's supposed to be these are sweaty little retards lol
Waaa waaaaa