Here goes my attempt at providing (maybe) useful criticism in a formal manner trying to "debunk" these things 1. This may be an important aspect, but this is purely your decision in the game. You can ignore this. If you live in a certain country you simply cannot access this. This is purely cosmetic. 2. Probably gonna be my weakest case but just to get the easy part, there will nearly always be an exploiter in a game that's not got the budget of the entire world. This part can be applied to nearly every game. The bots are somewhat of an issue but can be achieved in other games too. 3. The p2w. P2w gets thrown around a lot of the time in terms of anything, but in terms of this game, the price comes down to anything really, because no one can really afford that much for one game, aside from the luck purchases, as they are one-time (tbf it is somewhat p2w) everything else is permanent, and can be (in a way) the way the developers can be supported (YES I know they're not the "real" devs but they are still holding the game) and just like what I said before, this will be prevalent in most games in roblox, not exclusively this game. Sucks, yes but really all this just boils down to "this isn't just for Fisch". Alright here is the end of some counter-points surrounding these claims (I say that like I qualify for smth) in a hopefully constructive way, I took way too long typing this goodbye
Exploiters are the worst thing in the game. Every server 3 random exploiters who instant catch and that’s sucks for legit players. Macros shouldn’t be alowed also
@@RickasleyGames true, i know a lot of good games that allows macro and of course people abusing it it gets to a point that you cant get as good without macro im talking about bee swarm simulator
@@BucketYT1 respect that, like the issue is becouse of macro you can get thousands of stingers and invest them in 10th+ boosts while not macroing you have waste whole day for 100 stingers to boost, its hard to maintain all full nectars and overalll macro players have much much mor e materials, its way harder to have full potential without macro
im on mobile on bee swarm so i cant macro and its like without macroing i wont get anywhere in the game everyone tells me go blue but to make as much honey as possible and get mats its like youre forced to macro you need billions and billions to switch hive colors and without macroing it feels impossible
I wanna be clear not everything I say in the video is very accurate and clear this is just my thoughts if you know what I mean Btw a lot of yapping lmao Timestamps: 0:00 intro 0:22 gambling 1:58 bots and exploiters 3:33 p2w 5:22 outro
The biggest problem and mistake is selling this game to da big games studio or whatever how its called, if they didn't sell it there whould be not that much p2w, but of course yeah money is money and without it fisch may not perform that far
What an absolute shock. Ever since Do Big Studios started working on the game it has become a buggy pay to win mess with exploiters ruining the servers. Another example of a big studio ruining a good game.
@@Brazil0987 you’re right. There’s many games that r overrated and many that r underrated and unknown for the most. But well that’s to be expected since it’s Roblox. Isn’t it?
The only p2w item in this game is the 2x exp and nothing else. All the luck can be distributed to the entire server so all of the players benefit from it so I don't think that's a win. Appraise and boats do absolutely nothing in the game so I don't think anyone would feel like they are at an advantage over the others with it. Shark events don't mean the first come first serve and the appraised fish will only cost more and look cool, but you're supposed to sell that fish. Sell anywhere and appraise anywhere is an absolute garbage gp because it's not that hard to sell fish and items bro. Skins for boats and robux boats is not even worth it. Skin crates can be grind with effort alone without paying robux so I don't really see the game being p2w beside the 2x exp of course
Exploiters realy dont do any thing they just cach fish it can be anoying to see one but their not that big of a deal sice they dont take away for your progress
Don't see how supporter is 50/50 p2w, if the second quest in the game tells you to fish for 500 credits. By the time you buy it, you most likely get 1k credits from literally fishing a single mythic. Also spawning a boat anywhere, isn't really pay to win since it provides no real advantage other than literally being able to spawn your boat anywhere (aka. the point of the game pass, and there's also a cooldown). Double Exp, also provides no actual advantage other than levelling up faster which is honestly more of a "be able to actually complete the game in a normal time-frame" thing, it still requires a very lengthy amount of time to actually reach max level. Appraisers luck could be argued as pay to win, but once again its basically a vanity and the appraiser isn't required to play the game - I also disagree with the appraiser being an issue with the game, but the crates are 100% an issue. Also forgot to mention, you never said anything about the actual BOATS which ARE pay to win - I understand the singular snowmobile jet ski which COULD'VE been a one-off thing for Christmas, but they decided to go further and add a Christmas jet ski as well as multiple other boats for robux which is ANOTHER 100% pay to win feature of the game since anyone can buy them at any level.
I said supporter is 50/50 because 1k credits as a completely new player is kinda a lot, appraiser kinda is a gambling source, tbh I lose money from appraising lol, and the limited boats aren’t p2w regular jet ski is better than everything else, even though the limited boats are faster, but not by a lot
Oh also the spawn boats it can be a advantage at times, like a shark event spawns and the shipwright is like far, you can just spawn a boat, and it’s just more of a qol
Very disagree w ur p2w since they a new big game they need to make money somehow no game on roblox is unrobuxed like adopt me bloxfruit all have robuxed items they need robux to keep up the game running and wdym they making it expensive they decreased the luck boost and decreased all gamepasses all they added is js bundles that no point buying and skins that optional keep in mind they have to make robux some how
@ as i said sir every game has a little bit of p2w no game on roblox ISNT any p2w adopt me, bloxburg, bloxfruit, everygame ALL has gamepasses, purchaseable coins and boost let not talk ab sols rng
Personally wouldn’t call any of this p2w, since you’re not rlly like given advantage. While yes for example with the 2x exp u will lvl up faster than someone without it… it doesn’t rlly mean anything. So what? You’re gonna reach max lvl faster it doesn’t affect the player without the gamepass in any way. I believe that like 3 years ago I played same game that had implemented PvP in it and there was 2x hp and 2x dmg gamepass and that’s what I call p2w cuz if you put 2 players with same lvl and same stuff with one having those gamepasses it’s obvious who is gonna win (both having same PvP skills), but in Fisch there is none of that. Another thing that I saw in comments here and also seen many other peeps in discord or other vids comments looking down upon people who use macro. While I understand their point it’s not like it’s affecting them. You can keep enjoying the game your way and let us do it our way. Calling us lazy which again I understand that, but for example from my perspective I don’t rlly have much choice due to the fact how difficult it is to reach such lvl in order to be able using the rods. 1. I can’t spend 24/7 grinding as I’m working 2. You can’t expect me to do this much grind. Like I’m sorry but even if I had 24/7 free time I don’t see myself wasting all of that on fishing game. I wanna play different games or do something else. Not saying everyone who is using macro is in same position like that, but surely many is especially with the second thing I mentioned. If some say we are lazy for not getting max lvl legit I might as well use their logic and say that those who did reach this legit are sick in head cuz it’s crazy. That’s just my personal opinion on that thing. I’m not hurt by any of this lol
@ no, I understand that point of view. To be more flexible opinion wise I would say it’s 50/50 p2w. That can basically apply even for the craftable rods. If this was competitive game I would 100% agree with u due to nlr, rotek (especially rotek). Some might say rotff but idk… I haven’t experienced it personally but it doesn’t seem to be that great in comparison to nlr. And for the gamepasses like sell anywhere, appraisal anywhere and spawn boat anywhere. Those aren’t rlly like needed, but they’re making your life in Fisch much easier and makes it better experience. Especially sell anywhere and spawn boat… as appraising isn’t as important to everyone.
You understand the issue with macro. It’s just that you use it so of course you’re not gonna like people talking down on users. You like having the best items without putting in the effort. I know, we know, you know. Pretty simple why it’s frowned upon. Why it’s allowed though? I have no fcking clue. Fake flexers
@@Tootrillll I mean obviously I want to experience having the best items too, but as I mentioned in the position I’m in it just wouldn’t be possible. It would take me literally year to reach that. And before I would reach it there would definitely be new max lvl with whatever new stuff although they said there is not going to be level locked items. Fake flexers? Some maybe are, but not me. I’m just playing it to chill (when I actually play it by myself) in my ps with few friends. I just don’t see anything wrong about it. As long as it doesn’t affect other players it’s okay. As of now all of y’all can say only “well you’re losing the experience” ok and how does that concern you? Does the fact I lose the experience affect your own experience? I don’t rlly think so. By myself I got to lvl 200 and had basically at the time best rod which money could buy (rotd). From that it was literally no changes for me. No new rods etc.
@@Tootrillll also as I said I could use the same logic towards those who grind it legitimately and make fun of them being sick in head due to fact how much time they spent levelling up in fishing game. Which I won’t cuz I respect both sides as I get that not everyone has the time to achieve such things with their time given. Only thing I look upon is exploiters as due to the lag they actually ruin the experience for people who play in public.
Sthu stop crying over the appraiser and the crates it isn’t considered gambling if real money isn’t required. Sure u can buy credits with robux, but it isn’t required to get credits so stop making a big deal about it.
@@SMLLOGANISTHEGOAT so did it sound like I was crying, you realize it legit is gambling just in a sense of without using real money, gambling in general is making someone addicted to doing one thing over and over again, I can say fishing is addicting
@@SMLLOGANISTHEGOAT it kinda is… Roblox kids are like 7 and lots of kids play fisch and they probably don’t know it’s “gambling” pretty sure a couple of people can agree
Here goes my attempt at providing (maybe) useful criticism in a formal manner trying to "debunk" these things
1. This may be an important aspect, but this is purely your decision in the game. You can ignore this. If you live in a certain country you simply cannot access this. This is purely cosmetic.
2. Probably gonna be my weakest case but just to get the easy part, there will nearly always be an exploiter in a game that's not got the budget of the entire world. This part can be applied to nearly every game. The bots are somewhat of an issue but can be achieved in other games too.
3. The p2w. P2w gets thrown around a lot of the time in terms of anything, but in terms of this game, the price comes down to anything really, because no one can really afford that much for one game, aside from the luck purchases, as they are one-time (tbf it is somewhat p2w) everything else is permanent, and can be (in a way) the way the developers can be supported (YES I know they're not the "real" devs but they are still holding the game) and just like what I said before, this will be prevalent in most games in roblox, not exclusively this game. Sucks, yes but really all this just boils down to "this isn't just for Fisch".
Alright here is the end of some counter-points surrounding these claims (I say that like I qualify for smth) in a hopefully constructive way, I took way too long typing this goodbye
Dang y’all typing essays 😭🙏
@@BucketYT1 I had the time
@computerscientist6658read thru it sums it up faster lol
Exploiters are the worst thing in the game. Every server 3 random exploiters who instant catch and that’s sucks for legit players. Macros shouldn’t be alowed also
@@RickasleyGames true, i know a lot of good games that allows macro and of course people abusing it it gets to a point that you cant get as good without macro im talking about bee swarm simulator
@misha_bloxor6549 bee swarm I never marco and I have pretty much end game items, this was before my channel lol
@@BucketYT1 respect that, like the issue is becouse of macro you can get thousands of stingers and invest them in 10th+ boosts while not macroing you have waste whole day for 100 stingers to boost, its hard to maintain all full nectars and overalll macro players have much much mor e materials, its way harder to have full potential without macro
@@RickasleyGames macros doesnt affect players and is more of an advantage then making it worse and so is exploiters
im on mobile on bee swarm so i cant macro and its like without macroing i wont get anywhere in the game everyone tells me go blue but to make as much honey as possible and get mats its like youre forced to macro you need billions and billions to switch hive colors and without macroing it feels impossible
Admins don't give a **** about exploiters and they're slowly adding limited items 💀
I wanna be clear not everything I say in the video is very accurate and clear this is just my thoughts if you know what I mean
Btw a lot of yapping lmao
Timestamps:
0:00 intro
0:22 gambling
1:58 bots and exploiters
3:33 p2w
5:22 outro
@@BucketYT1 i wish i could gamble but i cant because my country😑
The biggest problem and mistake is selling this game to da big games studio or whatever how its called, if they didn't sell it there whould be not that much p2w, but of course yeah money is money and without it fisch may not perform that far
The problem with fisch when i try to join the lowest surver suddenly people start joining
Atleast my TH-cam channel is just to report exploiters in discord server.
good channel
i created my channel just for that reason too lmao u should look at the comments its so funny they are defending the exploiters
a fish problem that u didn’t add is how fisch doesn’t care and the more players it gets the more Roblox and the game make
i think its more "pay to fast" than pay to win, since these level locked rods are indeed op, it justs require effort (and lotta of time)
Is most of northern expedition bestiary possible? i honestly have no idea how to complete it. The whole area is confusing
@@fatetzy8278 eh I think some are bugged still
i also keep spawning in overgrowth caves. i dont even know why
Man there was a Meg and like 6 hackers teleported there 💀😭
What an absolute shock. Ever since Do Big Studios started working on the game it has become a buggy pay to win mess with exploiters ruining the servers. Another example of a big studio ruining a good game.
@greg9014 everything’s optional, it’s not even forcing you to buy skins.
Most of the things are optional, they’re not even forcing you to buy skins; please, complaining just doesn’t help anything.
@justasnepdude you’re telling me 32x and double xp isn’t pay to win. Alright bro sure.
@greg9014 do you know what I said? IT’S OPTIONAL.
@justasnepdude it’s still pay to win, just because it’s optional doesn’t mean that it’s not pay to win, jeezus.
"yeah bro fisch isnt rng and p2w"
The biggest fisch’s problem is it’s existence
How tf this game got 300k players Roblox is cooked
@@Brazil0987 XD
Blox fruits getting 2.1 million players is so much worse.
Still more understandable than adopt me
@greg9014 so what? This won’t change the fact that Fisch is overrated.
@@Brazil0987 you’re right.
There’s many games that r overrated and many that r underrated and unknown for the most.
But well that’s to be expected since it’s Roblox. Isn’t it?
I mean, most of things are optional. In the end, there’s no winning - it’s infinite.
@justasnepdude ye, it’s just called p2w
@@BucketYT1 huh, i guess it's your opinion on the game then.
The only p2w item in this game is the 2x exp and nothing else. All the luck can be distributed to the entire server so all of the players benefit from it so I don't think that's a win. Appraise and boats do absolutely nothing in the game so I don't think anyone would feel like they are at an advantage over the others with it. Shark events don't mean the first come first serve and the appraised fish will only cost more and look cool, but you're supposed to sell that fish. Sell anywhere and appraise anywhere is an absolute garbage gp because it's not that hard to sell fish and items bro. Skins for boats and robux boats is not even worth it. Skin crates can be grind with effort alone without paying robux so I don't really see the game being p2w beside the 2x exp of course
Man ik this dont got to do nun with the vidoe but anyone has golden sea pearl i just need 1 and im willing to trade a megaladon
Exploiters realy dont do any thing they just cach fish it can be anoying to see one but their not that big of a deal sice they dont take away for your progress
Man I’m starting to quit now
Don't see how supporter is 50/50 p2w, if the second quest in the game tells you to fish for 500 credits. By the time you buy it, you most likely get 1k credits from literally fishing a single mythic. Also spawning a boat anywhere, isn't really pay to win since it provides no real advantage other than literally being able to spawn your boat anywhere (aka. the point of the game pass, and there's also a cooldown). Double Exp, also provides no actual advantage other than levelling up faster which is honestly more of a "be able to actually complete the game in a normal time-frame" thing, it still requires a very lengthy amount of time to actually reach max level. Appraisers luck could be argued as pay to win, but once again its basically a vanity and the appraiser isn't required to play the game - I also disagree with the appraiser being an issue with the game, but the crates are 100% an issue.
Also forgot to mention, you never said anything about the actual BOATS which ARE pay to win - I understand the singular snowmobile jet ski which COULD'VE been a one-off thing for Christmas, but they decided to go further and add a Christmas jet ski as well as multiple other boats for robux which is ANOTHER 100% pay to win feature of the game since anyone can buy them at any level.
I said supporter is 50/50 because 1k credits as a completely new player is kinda a lot, appraiser kinda is a gambling source, tbh I lose money from appraising lol, and the limited boats aren’t p2w regular jet ski is better than everything else, even though the limited boats are faster, but not by a lot
Oh also the spawn boats it can be a advantage at times, like a shark event spawns and the shipwright is like far, you can just spawn a boat, and it’s just more of a qol
There’s no winning, so why call it p2w? When there’s no winning in the end?..
@justasnepdude dunno
u right
@zipfisch ❤️
Many problem that game
1. Need anti cheat
@@satriohadiprabowo8140 you should complain about the “do big games” devs not Nate, Nate had nothing to do with the past updates
ThIs youtube is an absolute joke
It's probably by the company since woozy Nate had stressed with work poor game that people loved 😞 or not
Very disagree w ur p2w since they a new big game they need to make money somehow no game on roblox is unrobuxed like adopt me bloxfruit all have robuxed items they need robux to keep up the game running and wdym they making it expensive they decreased the luck boost and decreased all gamepasses all they added is js bundles that no point buying and skins that optional keep in mind they have to make robux some how
@@CurvySt4r-bh9mm although the decreased the price it’s still p2w lol
@ as i said sir every game has a little bit of p2w no game on roblox ISNT any p2w adopt me, bloxburg, bloxfruit, everygame ALL has gamepasses, purchaseable coins and boost let not talk ab sols rng
@@CurvySt4r-bh9mm rivals is a big game really isn’t p2w, the guns that are P2W don’t really give a big advantage
fax bro awesome video
Personally wouldn’t call any of this p2w, since you’re not rlly like given advantage. While yes for example with the 2x exp u will lvl up faster than someone without it… it doesn’t rlly mean anything. So what? You’re gonna reach max lvl faster it doesn’t affect the player without the gamepass in any way. I believe that like 3 years ago I played same game that had implemented PvP in it and there was 2x hp and 2x dmg gamepass and that’s what I call p2w cuz if you put 2 players with same lvl and same stuff with one having those gamepasses it’s obvious who is gonna win (both having same PvP skills), but in Fisch there is none of that.
Another thing that I saw in comments here and also seen many other peeps in discord or other vids comments looking down upon people who use macro.
While I understand their point it’s not like it’s affecting them. You can keep enjoying the game your way and let us do it our way. Calling us lazy which again I understand that, but for example from my perspective I don’t rlly have much choice due to the fact how difficult it is to reach such lvl in order to be able using the rods.
1. I can’t spend 24/7 grinding as I’m working
2. You can’t expect me to do this much grind. Like I’m sorry but even if I had 24/7 free time I don’t see myself wasting all of that on fishing game. I wanna play different games or do something else.
Not saying everyone who is using macro is in same position like that, but surely many is especially with the second thing I mentioned.
If some say we are lazy for not getting max lvl legit I might as well use their logic and say that those who did reach this legit are sick in head cuz it’s crazy.
That’s just my personal opinion on that thing. I’m not hurt by any of this lol
Double xp is p2w cause no life rod is still obtainable
@ no, I understand that point of view. To be more flexible opinion wise I would say it’s 50/50 p2w.
That can basically apply even for the craftable rods. If this was competitive game I would 100% agree with u due to nlr, rotek (especially rotek). Some might say rotff but idk… I haven’t experienced it personally but it doesn’t seem to be that great in comparison to nlr.
And for the gamepasses like sell anywhere, appraisal anywhere and spawn boat anywhere. Those aren’t rlly like needed, but they’re making your life in Fisch much easier and makes it better experience. Especially sell anywhere and spawn boat… as appraising isn’t as important to everyone.
You understand the issue with macro. It’s just that you use it so of course you’re not gonna like people talking down on users. You like having the best items without putting in the effort. I know, we know, you know. Pretty simple why it’s frowned upon. Why it’s allowed though? I have no fcking clue. Fake flexers
@@Tootrillll I mean obviously I want to experience having the best items too, but as I mentioned in the position I’m in it just wouldn’t be possible. It would take me literally year to reach that. And before I would reach it there would definitely be new max lvl with whatever new stuff although they said there is not going to be level locked items.
Fake flexers? Some maybe are, but not me. I’m just playing it to chill (when I actually play it by myself) in my ps with few friends. I just don’t see anything wrong about it. As long as it doesn’t affect other players it’s okay.
As of now all of y’all can say only “well you’re losing the experience” ok and how does that concern you? Does the fact I lose the experience affect your own experience? I don’t rlly think so. By myself I got to lvl 200 and had basically at the time best rod which money could buy (rotd). From that it was literally no changes for me. No new rods etc.
@@Tootrillll also as I said I could use the same logic towards those who grind it legitimately and make fun of them being sick in head due to fact how much time they spent levelling up in fishing game. Which I won’t cuz I respect both sides as I get that not everyone has the time to achieve such things with their time given.
Only thing I look upon is exploiters as due to the lag they actually ruin the experience for people who play in public.
Sthu stop crying over the appraiser and the crates it isn’t considered gambling if real money isn’t required. Sure u can buy credits with robux, but it isn’t required to get credits so stop making a big deal about it.
@@SMLLOGANISTHEGOAT so did it sound like I was crying, you realize it legit is gambling just in a sense of without using real money, gambling in general is making someone addicted to doing one thing over and over again, I can say fishing is addicting
u were crying saying it’s, “a massive problem oh no!” even tho it’s not stop being a baby lil bro
all the other problems are on point tho
@@SMLLOGANISTHEGOAT it kinda is… Roblox kids are like 7 and lots of kids play fisch and they probably don’t know it’s “gambling” pretty sure a couple of people can agree
bro what, let’s be honest is this an actual issue or is it just bad because it is considered gambling
First
TH-cam kids be like
nj
a fish problem that u didn’t add is how fisch doesn’t care and the more players it gets the more Roblox and the game make
Roblox or Robux