Yeah pred is totally fine with getting dropped and he’s uploading videos of him watching the story of shotzy Like what did you do pred? I’m dying to know
Somewhere, optic has a storage container full of pred merch, photos, etc 😂😂 Storage wars is gonna hit different when the buyer wins the mystery container. They be like, who is pred 😂😂
That's removing you forever type shit. Hecz just gives answers like a politician, talks for 5 mins without answering anything. They say one thing but actions are showing another.
When organizations reach a certain size and influence level, it is almost a necessity to turn to a political org as they also become a target for lawsuits and schemers. Hate to say it but Optic is now a soulless org with no genuine personality, out of necessity
honestly ive unsubbed from this guy. speculation after speculations. just oozzing toxic shit into the community that already is toxic lol. this mans channel is literally reddit
So OpTic are covering their own ass by deleting Pred and blaming the community for wanting to know why the org famous for backing their champions erased a top 5 player who won them a ring overnight
You are so braind dead, Everyone knows that he is not in the team rn, so iss very OBVIOUS that the organization gonna remove everything for people that are not part of the team. Simple as that stop makimg braind dead overthinkings ando justo wait till the time tell US the true
@ make yourself look more dumb everyone still crying about the pred situation has personal life issues they need to work through he got dropped he’s not on the team who cares quit crying about it. You’re one of the kids that was probably praying he’d get dropped after major 4 now you’re upset he got dropped lmao
The whole Pred situation is weird and I think it could reflect bad on optic and their champs win or something with legal ramifications (pure speculation) because everyone is moving so weird about this. Personal matter or not; there’s no reason optic would just cut ties and remove a championship winning player from their history, just a few months removed from the optic champs win.
The way Optic is removing every bit of evidence of PRED ever being on the team speaks volume. This is what firms do to an associate if that person raped or murder someone, not saying that is PRED did, but the way Optic is handling this situation its just a bit much.
again it could be for literally any legal reason, doesn't even need to be in the ballpark of rape or murder, if there's legal intervention at any level they cant speak unless their lawyers tell them. Its nothing to do with 'a bit much' they are just covering themselves legally.
I mean, the simplest explanation for the removal is the loss of Pred’s image rights due to the termination of the contract… but let‘s Dive a bit deeper in the conspiracies
Why terminate the contract when they could put it on hold and possibly have the reigning champs team back by major 2? they did that with Illey when his thumb was injured for a whole season and he came back at Champs
@@bunnerrean i don’t think you can put in „on hold“… you either keep it up or you determine it… Optic cant afford a 5th player atm. Also An Injurie isnt quite comparable to this.
@@bunnerrean Just a guess but if i'm to be the new player and Preds on 'Hold' as such for this, 1. The contract they give me isn't goping to be enough/worth it. 2. The timeline won't be likable, am i dropped @ major 2, am i dropped weeks before etc?, there's alot of what if's. So my guess is it's easier and more appealing to the new player to be given the full contract with no time limit to it. Something is deffo not adding up though, also to do with the pictures/likeness etc surely they can have photos around the 'Office' that shouldn't be a breach. Hecs has his poloroid wall for everyone at the HQ so be interesting to see if Preds taken off that as surely he would have to be if the promo thing is the case :O.
its like you dont listen to a word you've been told for the past 2 weeks, theres clearly a legal reason as to why they cant speak about it. is that so hard to understand?
Everyone is trying to push this agenda that pred just had to do something wrong and that's why he's not on optic anymore maybe it actually is just personal reasons having ti do with his mind set and I don't believe they got rid of the picture they most likely just moved it outside of the room they play and scrim in sorry but dashy,ken,shottzy won champs with pred do you really think they would wanna see a picture of pred everyday just knowing they aren't playing with them anymore what do you think that does to their head
There are 11 other teams you can be a fan of. Go on ahead and be a FaZe or LAT fan. Your entitlement to know everything stinks. I've been an fan for over 12 years, I don't care one bit about. They know what's going on and they are keep it in-house.
Bro they can say what they want but he will never be back and they arent friends. They dont want to ruin his future but they are done. He had to of stole money or property to cover his debts or something 100%, otherwise this wouldnt happen the way it is
There’s no way it’s just personal issues with pred. Optic usually show support publicly to any member who faced mental problems in the past. The way optic are handling this makes me think Pred did something pretty bad. Only some sort of altercation or legal matter would warrant this reaction from optic.
Not even Crimsix got this bad of a vanishing from Optic history. It's like they went Soviet on Pred, and deleted him from their books. Ain't no way they are doing that simply over "mental issues"
9:00 i’ve been thinking about this as well. i work in hr at a fairly large company, we dont have public facing figures the way an esports team does, but this is exactly how we would handle a situation like this (employee putting the company in jeopardy through the public eye). most people, even employees who work with them, wouldn’t be told more than “they did something that violated their contract and hurts the company as a whole”
What's missing is even the hint of actual Journalism on the Pred story. There is a huge part of this mega-story still out there, just hiding in plain sight. Dig a little, and report publicly what you hear from people you trust. No one can get Shotzzy talking too much?? But, in our community, it seems like Rab is the only one still willing to bring it up. The 'COD Friendship League' goes deeper than just the Players. 'The Desk' has been especially shameless in this regard.
while the pred situation at this point is beyond our business, them erasing him from the timeline is MUCH MUCH more suspicious than the story they described regarding him
Seriously, unless they’re upset that he refused the help and now he is in a situation which can’t be forgiven I understand but they’re still posting with each other even if it’s old VOD
From the start this has always been the majority stance of the public. Whole situation was completely sketchy, nobody wanted every personal detail, just to gain any level of transparency with such an odd PR situation from an organization priding themselves on these exact morals
has to be a dr disrespect situation. not saying he was talking to minors but something massive. the deal has to be just get cut walk away and it stays secret the way twitch randomly banned doc for “no reason”
Bc you not supposed to know the 100% details .. he’s not on the team, why would they keep stuff for him on the team or on social media.. if a player gets dropped from a nba team they aren’t on the teams website anymore … they handled this like professionals
I mean, this is really bad for Pred. They need to stop doing this crap and leave whatever else involves pred and move on. The more they remove, the worse it gets
I called this being something legal with Pred as soon as I heard this change was even happening because; no one was mentioning his name, Scump and Crim’s reactions when Shotzzy said his name on the watch party, and OpTic basically erasing him from the org’s history as fast as they did! It all just screamed legal actions!
Anyone remember ZooMaa’s watch party the last weekend Pred played? He was told to take down all his gambling sponsorship logos by somebody involved. The entire crew were talking about “leaking it” and nothing happened of what they were talking about. The following week this whole situation starts. Makes you wonder. 🤔
This is why the CDL and COD fans are a joke. Literally every other sport has pictures of guys that are a part of championship teams because it’s part of history. If optic took down his picture but are still open to him then that’s petty. There’s no reason to do that. Just stupid immature petty trash
we go from laughing at Seattle Surge for not selling Pred to Optic for that insane payout to Optic forcing Pred out. Was this just a crazy deep strat organised by the ex Seattle team? Nah.
I got a feeling pred probably borrowed money from that surge camp, and they kept raising the price so they could pay themselves back for what pred may have accumulated during his time there
As upset as I was about the Pred situation, watching Illey, Huke, Shotzzy play together is such a wholesome moment as a fan that trio has such good vibes.
@@titanfighter12 I never hated either of them tbh MWII was made for paraplegics. This game suits all 3 of those guys playstyles their comms were great Ant was getting gas from his boys seemed like he was having fun after obviously being bothered by whatever the hell happened with Pred.
But you know they're going to fall to crap under pressure at a lan. Pred brought so much confidence to that team. Especially on lan. Even when they did lose, they were very difficult to beat.
Pred is still privately associated with Optic, but publicly, they’ve distanced themselves for business, sponsorship, and branding reasons. The lack of mentions, removal of pictures, and disassociation from the Optic brand stem from the fallout of some questionable actions involving gambling, the full details of which remain unclear. Optic had to take a step back publicly to protect their image. Privately, however, the relationship remains intact, and they’re prepared to welcome him back once he’s healthy and the situation is fully resolved. What Optic said about being them for him proves exactly that, its just behind closed doors privately. Pred playing with Shotzzy proves that as well.
That’s hilarious, because I posted about this like 2 weeks ago. Believe I posted it here and on Scump’s vid. He clearly did more than just borrow money, much more that if discussed might be legal ramifications.
I get it get rid of the controversy that he could cause it the future, but to take down a picture of a guy that helped you win that damn championship that's something else man.
You don’t JUST erase someone from the Org that made history like winning Champs 🏆 If it’s was a nobody and the season was whatever it doesn’t matter happens all the time in general but historic event in cod naww. It has to be a more serious issue even a legal issue cuz there doing Pred dirty.
What bothers me is not what OpTic is doing because like the Reddit post mentioned they most likely have to do it for legal reasons, it’s the fact that they’re doing it then reflecting blame on their fans claiming OpTic fans who “buy into the speculations are fake fans” knowing that the speculations are likely facts that they just aren’t able to speak on.
Dude literally every single day something else comes out with the Pred situation where Optic comes out looking like absolute scum bags. I've been watching cod since the OG cod4 and I've never seen Optic look so bad after all these years. I mean, as someone who knows a little about business and marketing, how the hell did this meeting go? "Hey guys, lets drop Pred and make ourselves look as bad as possible in the process all the while not giving any details whatsoever." "I love that idea, lets do it!"
@ 8:57 the third bullet point, I don't think the situation is confidential, at least not among the players. If optic truly kept it under wraps someone (of the pros) would have tweeted at pred wishing him the best when he announced his departure. ZERO pro player replies from a guy like pred retiring is truly bizarre
I still feel like the pred situation is so strange man, like all of a sudden everyone is fine but like preds name is fucking voodoo in the org, like give bro his flowers @ optic
If he does come back to a different team i think more will come out via sources...like Nade said owners are going to want to know why a world champ disappeared.
Saw a clip from Zoomaa’s stream the other day saying he doesn’t think Pred will be back on OpTic. That’s enough for me to say there is DEFINITELY more to this story than we’ve all been told. Like yeah sure, removed for a while with a gambling addiction makes sense, but never back? One of the best subs in the game that helped take them to a champs? Who they were willing to pay a shit tonne of money for a season ago? Yeah right, something worse definitely happened behind the scenes, maybe something personal in regards to the gambling and the optic guys
If he's saying he's a free agent he clearly wants to play, so whatever "out of game" issue it was wasn't enough to keep him from playing for another org, so this means he had a huge conflict with one of more members of the org.
Here's a thought, what if... Just WHAT IF, OpTic as a business are making moves with Pred the same way Twitch did with the Doc situation?????? Not starting anything, but OpTic and Twitch business moves seem kind of similar in a way.
people were still defending hecs and optic that they are handling this stuff well and communcating clearly to the "greenwall family" but the issue is, people have eyes.
Ppl saying it’s non of “your” business in regard to pred are delusional and right. In the same light they have a point but when you have a certain status in a community this is just what comes with it. No one is demanding they give an answer about it but the community is allowed to speculate, ask questions and even be annoying within chats asking ppl.
Lmao so because you’re a “community” you’re allowed harass people? Crazy You don’t need to know anything about their personal lives or reasons for decisions they make. Being a fan means watching and supporting not being in the know 😂
I’m happy to see that they put up the pictures I gave them at the optic legacy match I really love that optic actually uses what the fans give them. And I hope what Rab said about him taking it home is true
Rab I hope you don’t feel or get bullied by Hecz to stop reporting on this. He should be lucky you aren’t a true investigative journalist like Coffeezilla.
Kenny will be next to "suffering from mental" and then iLLeY will be back to complete the XEO, so they can get 4th at champs anyways because they still need Clay/Crim.
Ong i think he talked to someone underage bro is from australia he probably got caught up like josh giddy cause why erase everything to do with him when they went out their way some much the last two years tryna get him
A little more info on the Pred situation: I pulled a records check on him for Texas records. No arrest records, traffic violations, court records, etc. And contrary to what I had previously suspicions of, he is not a registered sex offender 😂😂😂 I'll copy and paste his report below this so yall can see. Their could be something that this records check didn't find, but as far as I can see he's clean lol Possible Criminal Records County Criminal Court Search: Not Found State Level Criminal Search: Not Found Federal Criminal Court Search: Not Found Sex Offender Registry: Not Found Warrant Search: Not Found Arrest Records: Not Found Speeding Tickets: Not Found Possible Criminal & Traffic Records No Criminal & Traffic Records Found
You can't introduce a personality to optic and act like it didn't happen That's someone we came to love So the way they shut it out, it's not required for them to tell us but if they say nothing it puts them in a bad light going forward. My opinions on optic are mixed rn because of this, I can't be the only one This does affect the fans that make the brand as well It affects your brand just as badly as the gambling thing in my opinion Imagine LeBron being kicked off a team with no explanation or context for the ppl that watch that team religiously From what I'm getting from this is that its from higher ups I understand why the players can't say much Idk I'm not too knowledgeable on this topic but from a brand perspective this doesn't help the image they built over the yrs
There just has to be more to this. Pred shouldn't be this chill about losing his spot on OpTic after all they went through to get him. Just weird.
Yeah pred is totally fine with getting dropped and he’s uploading videos of him watching the story of shotzy Like what did you do pred? I’m dying to know
Same
He probably bet on himself to get dropped from optic
@@YouNeedToHitTheRangeMore anything is possible. Like Rab said it’s obviously much more then just Pred was betting on too many NBA games
@@YouNeedToHitTheRangeMorethis is the obvious answer. hecz' overreaction to all the "speculation" confirmed it for me
Pred just needs to take whatever money he has left and put it on red
Not really funny
its aint even that lmao clearly u dont pay attention what so ever he came out n said lmao
It’s a joke not a dick guys don’t take it to hard
You kids are so soft these days lmao
@ buddy ur youtube name is cwisp_sprite dont fucking speak to me bum ass idk who u think u r buddy boy
Rab’s “update”: “They took a couple pics down, we still don’t have any new information.” Save yourself 13 minutes.
Someone needs to start a tac rab video breakdown channel. It’ll just be a TH-cam shorts channel bullet pointing the vids to save the time😂
@@AlwaysEwokwhy is this actual genius
Thank you
too much talking no information whatsoever
King
Somewhere, optic has a storage container full of pred merch, photos, etc 😂😂
Storage wars is gonna hit different when the buyer wins the mystery container. They be like, who is pred 😂😂
😂😂😂
Let’s be real they gonna be like what is Optic
Optic tries to soften the Pred situation with their words, and they go ahead to make it look bad with their actions.
True
yeah im not buying it at all im sorry. theyre not saying the full story
@@leninaristy8317why cant yall understand that when legal shit comes into play they cant speak on shit unless theyre told they can.
@@Ironmanpwnz because some people have a sense of entitlement when it comes to well known or famous peoples privacy as if they're owed anything
@@DilapidatedBridgeFacts! Folks need to get a life.
That's removing you forever type shit. Hecz just gives answers like a politician, talks for 5 mins without answering anything. They say one thing but actions are showing another.
When organizations reach a certain size and influence level, it is almost a necessity to turn to a political org as they also become a target for lawsuits and schemers. Hate to say it but Optic is now a soulless org with no genuine personality, out of necessity
Rabs abusing that infinite money glitch 💀
Rab prays for stories like this 😂
honestly ive unsubbed from this guy. speculation after speculations. just oozzing toxic shit into the community that already is toxic lol. this mans channel is literally reddit
@@CDL-c4wdamn and still coming to comment on his videos
@@CDL-c4wweird little guy you are
@@CDL-c4wand you’re a little Reddit warrior little baby boy :)
So OpTic are covering their own ass by deleting Pred and blaming the community for wanting to know why the org famous for backing their champions erased a top 5 player who won them a ring overnight
You are so braind dead, Everyone knows that he is not in the team rn, so iss very OBVIOUS that the organization gonna remove everything for people that are not part of the team. Simple as that stop makimg braind dead overthinkings ando justo wait till the time tell US the true
it's kinda crazy to me the lengths the org has gone to pretend like pred just never existed
5:48 is it not just a possibility that Pred took the picture himself to have at home? People over thinking everything smh
@@juicygaming5544 lol 😂 yea let me get that pic for the plane ✈️ home big dog
@ you know there is a thing called shipping that takes things allllll over the world for you right?
@ make yourself look more dumb everyone still crying about the pred situation has personal life issues they need to work through he got dropped he’s not on the team who cares quit crying about it. You’re one of the kids that was probably praying he’d get dropped after major 4 now you’re upset he got dropped lmao
The whole Pred situation is weird and I think it could reflect bad on optic and their champs win or something with legal ramifications (pure speculation) because everyone is moving so weird about this. Personal matter or not; there’s no reason optic would just cut ties and remove a championship winning player from their history, just a few months removed from the optic champs win.
The way Optic is removing every bit of evidence of PRED ever being on the team speaks volume. This is what firms do to an associate if that person raped or murder someone, not saying that is PRED did, but the way Optic is handling this situation its just a bit much.
again it could be for literally any legal reason, doesn't even need to be in the ballpark of rape or murder, if there's legal intervention at any level they cant speak unless their lawyers tell them. Its nothing to do with 'a bit much' they are just covering themselves legally.
He’s a Gambling addict and they have gambling sponsors
After having rewatched the Boston qualifier major 4.
Pred definitely threw that game. Question is, was it on purpose?
I mean, the simplest explanation for the removal is the loss of Pred’s image rights due to the termination of the contract… but let‘s Dive a bit deeper in the conspiracies
My exact thought. There might be a line in the contract that has to do with using Preds image or likeness
Why terminate the contract when they could put it on hold and possibly have the reigning champs team back by major 2? they did that with Illey when his thumb was injured for a whole season and he came back at Champs
@@bunnerrean i don’t think you can put in „on hold“… you either keep it up or you determine it… Optic cant afford a 5th player atm. Also An Injurie isnt quite comparable to this.
lol , lol 😂 I swear , most of these viewers that watch this channel are braindead children…..
@@bunnerrean Just a guess but if i'm to be the new player and Preds on 'Hold' as such for this, 1. The contract they give me isn't goping to be enough/worth it. 2. The timeline won't be likable, am i dropped @ major 2, am i dropped weeks before etc?, there's alot of what if's. So my guess is it's easier and more appealing to the new player to be given the full contract with no time limit to it. Something is deffo not adding up though, also to do with the pictures/likeness etc surely they can have photos around the 'Office' that shouldn't be a breach. Hecs has his poloroid wall for everyone at the HQ so be interesting to see if Preds taken off that as surely he would have to be if the promo thing is the case :O.
His name is Predator for a reason…
have been an optic fan since bo2. this really rubs me the wrong way and makes me rethink being an optic fan.
its like you dont listen to a word you've been told for the past 2 weeks, theres clearly a legal reason as to why they cant speak about it. is that so hard to understand?
Everyone is trying to push this agenda that pred just had to do something wrong and that's why he's not on optic anymore maybe it actually is just personal reasons having ti do with his mind set and I don't believe they got rid of the picture they most likely just moved it outside of the room they play and scrim in sorry but dashy,ken,shottzy won champs with pred do you really think they would wanna see a picture of pred everyday just knowing they aren't playing with them anymore what do you think that does to their head
There are 11 other teams you can be a fan of. Go on ahead and be a FaZe or LAT fan. Your entitlement to know everything stinks. I've been an fan for over 12 years, I don't care one bit about. They know what's going on and they are keep it in-house.
Bro they can say what they want but he will never be back and they arent friends. They dont want to ruin his future but they are done. He had to of stole money or property to cover his debts or something 100%, otherwise this wouldnt happen the way it is
Pred should start a gambling CDL channel
The pred situation is simple, the king banished him to a remote island for heresy.
Pred situation is like another Dr. Disrespect moment where nobody knows whats up. Might have to wait some time until we find out.
hope it ain’t like his situation 😂😂😂
There’s no way it’s just personal issues with pred. Optic usually show support publicly to any member who faced mental problems in the past.
The way optic are handling this makes me think Pred did something pretty bad. Only some sort of altercation or legal matter would warrant this reaction from optic.
Not even Crimsix got this bad of a vanishing from Optic history. It's like they went Soviet on Pred, and deleted him from their books. Ain't no way they are doing that simply over "mental issues"
9:00 i’ve been thinking about this as well. i work in hr at a fairly large company, we dont have public facing figures the way an esports team does, but this is exactly how we would handle a situation like this (employee putting the company in jeopardy through the public eye). most people, even employees who work with them, wouldn’t be told more than “they did something that violated their contract and hurts the company as a whole”
pred situation is so fucked up imo
What's missing is even the hint of actual Journalism on the Pred story. There is a huge part of this mega-story still out there, just hiding in plain sight. Dig a little, and report publicly what you hear from people you trust. No one can get Shotzzy talking too much?? But, in our community, it seems like Rab is the only one still willing to bring it up. The 'COD Friendship League' goes deeper than just the Players. 'The Desk' has been especially shameless in this regard.
I had a fear that this "friendship league" goes far beyond just the players
while the pred situation at this point is beyond our business, them erasing him from the timeline is MUCH MUCH more suspicious than the story they described regarding him
Seriously, unless they’re upset that he refused the help and now he is in a situation which can’t be forgiven I understand but they’re still posting with each other even if it’s old VOD
From the start this has always been the majority stance of the public. Whole situation was completely sketchy, nobody wanted every personal detail, just to gain any level of transparency with such an odd PR situation from an organization priding themselves on these exact morals
Why are they erasing Pred from Optic completely. It doesn’t add up from what we know so far. The Org is handling this terrible.
Has to be a legal issue but there saying it’s not
has to be a dr disrespect situation. not saying he was talking to minors but something massive. the deal has to be just get cut walk away and it stays secret the way twitch randomly banned doc for “no reason”
Bc you not supposed to know the 100% details .. he’s not on the team, why would they keep stuff for him on the team or on social media.. if a player gets dropped from a nba team they aren’t on the teams website anymore … they handled this like professionals
@@montycarlomusic no they didn’t. there’s always a post or something regarding the player. or a blog on the website. don’t be ignorant
I mean, this is really bad for Pred. They need to stop doing this crap and leave whatever else involves pred and move on. The more they remove, the worse it gets
I called this being something legal with Pred as soon as I heard this change was even happening because; no one was mentioning his name, Scump and Crim’s reactions when Shotzzy said his name on the watch party, and OpTic basically erasing him from the org’s history as fast as they did! It all just screamed legal actions!
These videos are starting to carry stalker vibes.
Anyone remember ZooMaa’s watch party the last weekend Pred played? He was told to take down all his gambling sponsorship logos by somebody involved.
The entire crew were talking about “leaking it” and nothing happened of what they were talking about.
The following week this whole situation starts. Makes you wonder. 🤔
Optic need to man up and tell us why tf our god smg duo has vanished overnight. It’s like Portugal dropping Ronaldo without any explanation.
You just don’t get it do you?
why can't pred man up instead of expecting an organization to? 😂
@@egochally7288shup bot
you are not owed anything. Talk about entitlement
Except shotzzy is that guy, but i get what u saying
This is why the CDL and COD fans are a joke. Literally every other sport has pictures of guys that are a part of championship teams because it’s part of history. If optic took down his picture but are still open to him then that’s petty. There’s no reason to do that. Just stupid immature petty trash
The only time a real sport takes something down is if the player did something real bad.
we go from laughing at Seattle Surge for not selling Pred to Optic for that insane payout to Optic forcing Pred out. Was this just a crazy deep strat organised by the ex Seattle team? Nah.
I got a feeling pred probably borrowed money from that surge camp, and they kept raising the price so they could pay themselves back for what pred may have accumulated during his time there
@@Editss213go outside kid
@@imRSKN how about you pick up a book instead of your phone some of these days? 😂
As upset as I was about the Pred situation, watching Illey, Huke, Shotzzy play together is such a wholesome moment as a fan that trio has such good vibes.
@@xFearHDx yeah until their season goes the way of MWII 😭 then y'all will hate him again
Don't forget old man crim running it down with them
@@titanfighter12 I never hated either of them tbh MWII was made for paraplegics. This game suits all 3 of those guys playstyles their comms were great Ant was getting gas from his boys seemed like he was having fun after obviously being bothered by whatever the hell happened with Pred.
But you know they're going to fall to crap under pressure at a lan. Pred brought so much confidence to that team. Especially on lan. Even when they did lose, they were very difficult to beat.
@@xFearHDx This game is NOT made for illey. illey is not know for crazy movement skills.
1st, Who the hell does he think he is saying "fans stop asking questions"! What are you now "acti-no-vision"?! Check ur ego optic CARTEL!
Maybe preds a cheater and he got caught
Pred is still privately associated with Optic, but publicly, they’ve distanced themselves for business, sponsorship, and branding reasons. The lack of mentions, removal of pictures, and disassociation from the Optic brand stem from the fallout of some questionable actions involving gambling, the full details of which remain unclear. Optic had to take a step back publicly to protect their image. Privately, however, the relationship remains intact, and they’re prepared to welcome him back once he’s healthy and the situation is fully resolved. What Optic said about being them for him proves exactly that, its just behind closed doors privately. Pred playing with Shotzzy proves that as well.
That’s hilarious, because I posted about this like 2 weeks ago. Believe I posted it here and on Scump’s vid.
He clearly did more than just borrow money, much more that if discussed might be legal ramifications.
I get it get rid of the controversy that he could cause it the future, but to take down a picture of a guy that helped you win that damn championship that's something else man.
You don’t JUST erase someone from the Org that made history like winning Champs 🏆 If it’s was a nobody and the season was whatever it doesn’t matter happens all the time in general but historic event in cod naww.
It has to be a more serious issue even a legal issue cuz there doing Pred dirty.
Can’t just be trying to make Huke comfortable like removing photos naww that weird. It’s a past event that should be celebrated not discouraged
Maybe Pred took the photo home with him?
In his set up he has that photo in the background I do know that lol
What bothers me is not what OpTic is doing because like the Reddit post mentioned they most likely have to do it for legal reasons, it’s the fact that they’re doing it then reflecting blame on their fans claiming OpTic fans who “buy into the speculations are fake fans” knowing that the speculations are likely facts that they just aren’t able to speak on.
Dude literally every single day something else comes out with the Pred situation where Optic comes out looking like absolute scum bags. I've been watching cod since the OG cod4 and I've never seen Optic look so bad after all these years. I mean, as someone who knows a little about business and marketing, how the hell did this meeting go?
"Hey guys, lets drop Pred and make ourselves look as bad as possible in the process all the while not giving any details whatsoever."
"I love that idea, lets do it!"
Optic + Drama = $$$ TacRab stocks 📈📈📈
just so weird how there just tryna POOF him from the history of optic in general
Great clip to end the video. Youre the man Tac have a happy new year.
@ 8:57 the third bullet point, I don't think the situation is confidential, at least not among the players. If optic truly kept it under wraps someone (of the pros) would have tweeted at pred wishing him the best when he announced his departure. ZERO pro player replies from a guy like pred retiring is truly bizarre
That pred situation is 100% worse than we thought
Optic really know how to handle drama lmao. They shoot themselves on the foot
I still feel like the pred situation is so strange man, like all of a sudden everyone is fine but like preds name is fucking voodoo in the org, like give bro his flowers @ optic
Pred might have wanted the picture and asked Optic to ship it to him in AUS? I think the community is looking too much into this "drama"
If he does come back to a different team i think more will come out via sources...like Nade said owners are going to want to know why a world champ disappeared.
Gambling is cancer
Pred is actually being treated like voldermort and im about to fly my ass down to that spider infested hellhole and get me some answers
Saw a clip from Zoomaa’s stream the other day saying he doesn’t think Pred will be back on OpTic. That’s enough for me to say there is DEFINITELY more to this story than we’ve all been told. Like yeah sure, removed for a while with a gambling addiction makes sense, but never back? One of the best subs in the game that helped take them to a champs? Who they were willing to pay a shit tonne of money for a season ago? Yeah right, something worse definitely happened behind the scenes, maybe something personal in regards to the gambling and the optic guys
Pred did something that got bad publicity and pred is a bad look for optic infront of the right eyes.
Thank you rab, I never get enough of info about pred.
I think the problem is that Pred gave up on gambling. There will be L’s but that doesn’t mean you should give up.
OpTic will never tell you the truth they will save face until pred has to come forward with all the info.
If he's saying he's a free agent he clearly wants to play, so whatever "out of game" issue it was wasn't enough to keep him from playing for another org, so this means he had a huge conflict with one of more members of the org.
With Shotzzys skill set, he would probably be a great EE hunter if he was a zombies kid
Pred was being a pred, no reason he would be how he is, and optic has remained so distant.
And there are rumors…
Here's a thought, what if... Just WHAT IF, OpTic as a business are making moves with Pred the same way Twitch did with the Doc situation?????? Not starting anything, but OpTic and Twitch business moves seem kind of similar in a way.
Pred update- “yea Guys they took pics down but we still don’t know what’s going on” 😂😂😂
Pretty sure Pred took that picture of him with him to Australia, it can be seen behind him in the Shotzzy vs Pred 1v1 video.
people were still defending hecs and optic that they are handling this stuff well and communcating clearly to the "greenwall family" but the issue is, people have eyes.
Watching XEO play ranked is the funniest shit
Can we please all agree to not click on the next Rab video that mentions pred. This guy is dragging tf outta this.
Lebron stepped away for what I believe to be much, much, much worse circumstances. Diddy list coming for that dumb dumb.
Never watched or even had swaggs stream come into my recommended. That’s wild
The whole Pred picture removal, maybe they decided to give Pred the picture to take home?
Ppl saying it’s non of “your” business in regard to pred are delusional and right. In the same light they have a point but when you have a certain status in a community this is just what comes with it. No one is demanding they give an answer about it but the community is allowed to speculate, ask questions and even be annoying within chats asking ppl.
Lmao so because you’re a “community” you’re allowed harass people? Crazy
You don’t need to know anything about their personal lives or reasons for decisions they make. Being a fan means watching and supporting not being in the know 😂
Pred 100% put money on optic losing & they are covering for him so he does not get a Perm Ban. Respect to optic for doing that
Hastro needs to come out and say what happened
It’s just an embarrassing Org, erasing a player who brought you a World Championship which they couldn’t win since 2017.
I’m happy to see that they put up the pictures I gave them at the optic legacy match I really love that optic actually uses what the fans give them. And I hope what Rab said about him taking it home is true
The picture is in the background of Preds most recent video so at some point he did take it home
Rab really tryna milk every penny he can outta this Pred situation 😂
Rab I hope you don’t feel or get bullied by Hecz to stop reporting on this. He should be lucky you aren’t a true investigative journalist like Coffeezilla.
Didn't coffee expose hecz for the optic coin crypto scam
Kenny will be next to "suffering from mental" and then iLLeY will be back to complete the XEO, so they can get 4th at champs anyways because they still need Clay/Crim.
We'll know what happened with Pred one day.
Pred definitely committed murder😂😂😂
Hope all is Rab!!
"We're here for him and the door is always open." Then why you treating him like Beetlejuice and not saying his name?
The optic fans DO deserve to know what's going on.
No THEY don’t its none of their business
We don’t give a damn about Pred or Optic
who knows if Pred even wants to come back he could always go to another team
2:13 bruh just slide cancel backwards rollie poly SLAMMED type shi🤣☠️
2:50
As long as the hitbox isn't broken who cares
Ong i think he talked to someone underage bro is from australia he probably got caught up like josh giddy cause why erase everything to do with him when they went out their way some much the last two years tryna get him
Shotzzy could be an architect.
Knew it was legalities. Oi vay PRED. Praying for bud.
Pred has that exact picture on his stream set up he probably took it with him?
Seems like pred either did something really bad to negatively effect OpTic, or he had beef with dashy. We all know how the 2nd option goes.
Even if you had beef with someone doesn't mean you vanish from org ... So it has to be bad
so the picture is literally behind him on his new set up if you watch hislive
Hope everything is going okay in the UK rab. Things are crazy in Europe
What’s going on in Europe
@murchiann the great replacement theory is happening in real time
@@rjgibson9450 could you explain what that means
@@murchiann google
A little more info on the Pred situation: I pulled a records check on him for Texas records. No arrest records, traffic violations, court records, etc. And contrary to what I had previously suspicions of, he is not a registered sex offender 😂😂😂 I'll copy and paste his report below this so yall can see.
Their could be something that this records check didn't find, but as far as I can see he's clean lol
Possible Criminal Records
County Criminal Court Search:
Not Found
State Level Criminal Search:
Not Found
Federal Criminal Court Search:
Not Found
Sex Offender Registry:
Not Found
Warrant Search:
Not Found
Arrest Records:
Not Found
Speeding Tickets:
Not Found
Possible Criminal & Traffic Records
No Criminal & Traffic Records Found
You can't introduce a personality to optic and act like it didn't happen
That's someone we came to love
So the way they shut it out, it's not required for them to tell us but if they say nothing it puts them in a bad light going forward. My opinions on optic are mixed rn because of this, I can't be the only one
This does affect the fans that make the brand as well
It affects your brand just as badly as the gambling thing in my opinion
Imagine LeBron being kicked off a team with no explanation or context for the ppl that watch that team religiously
From what I'm getting from this is that its from higher ups
I understand why the players can't say much
Idk I'm not too knowledgeable on this topic but from a brand perspective this doesn't help the image they built over the yrs