You know what Martin and Stacey should turn around and make lilly realise what it means to have a baby they need to leave her with a new born for an entire week without any help( bcoz even with all the family and friends around there still comes a time where any parent of any age will need to manage things alone) so she knows exactly what she getting into and if she's not pulling out her hair by the end then she should have it.
No lily is a entilted little brat who hasn't had a good role modal of a mother. Martin isn't the bad guy at least he is seeing long run of her life being over. He's right about Ricky Jr. It's not like he's pregnant just dishing the sperm. Stacy is deluded to encourage the pregnancy like hello you'll have to pay for babies cloths etc. On top got away with having sex
Kat giving advise to a 12 year old, she forgot her daughter was raised by her mother while she drunked and chase men . The writters must hate women, girls, families. The doomed Walford.
I seriously think that Lily is making a huge mistake by keeping her baby, which is going to be a very hard responsibility and also it will be a total disaster waiting to happen. All I can say is that Lily should have a termination or put the newborn baby up for adoption.
If this storyline goes ahead with Lilly having the baby then I will never watch Eastenders ever again. What kind of storyline is that encouraging kids to have baby’s. Pathetic absolutely pathetic, the writers should be sacked, like if you agree.
A 12-year-old does not know enough to make this decision. It would take a lot of calm, honest discussion to guide her. Adoption would be the best option, but we know how Eastenders deals with out-of-wedlock children. Everyone is selfish and demanding and pushy. Stacey is no example of how to be a mother. Overall, I believe Lily will be convinced to keep the baby, who will then be doomed.
Have a baby is 24/7 job and it is exhausting mentally, physically & emotionally at any age, but at 12 your still a baby urself. You might have to quit school and stay home with the baby, how can you find time to revise for your exams, no weekends with your mates and you spend your money on nappies, formula and clothes, no more spending on yourself. Choosing to keep a baby at such young age you are throwing away your teen years, the best years of your life to be young, free and have fun as well as the rest of your life
Lily doesn't know what having a baby would mean it's hard work both mentally and physically and it doesn't matter what support she has from her family she would still feel the pressure like any new mum, Martin made a decision when Bex was a baby to have her adopted because he knew that he wasn't mature enough to raise her right, but Lily I think needs some tough love
Wow! What a twist! Who didn’t see THAT coming? It’s one thing that she is only 12 and wanting a baby but they have done this storyline SOOOO many times before! It’s not radical anymore like it was in the 1980s. Louise was only a few years ago.
@@tvwatcher1150 still really young and it was treated as a teenage pregnancy, plus cindy and lola before. It always runs the same, they consider an abortion then refuse, you will think they could loose the baby but that never happens to a teenager in this show. It is ridiculous that this plotline is repeated so many times
@@emilysmith3393 more than 20 years ago, I have no problems with the plot or the fact that it is repeated. The problem is that Eastenders does this plotline so often it borders on self parody. And it is always beat for beat for beat the same each time, no abortion, no chance of EVER losing the baby.
@@BelJbraithwaite22yes it’s her decision. But she’s 12, risk of her dying during pregnancy are high even if she does decides to keep the baby, there’s chances the baby will eventually die because of her age
Why are the writers of EE so obsessed with 12-year-olds having kids? Dennis would have been 12 when Jada had Alyssa, Mick was 12 when Katy abused him and had Frankie, now Lily as well... Like what the fuck
Plus has ANYONE heard of contraception. Janine was unexpectedly pregnant as well! This storyline is done so often it borders on self parody. The Guardian is singing its praises though!
Yes so am I for goodness sake let the professionals sort Lily out Martin and Stacy are clueless, I suppose Sam will stay when she finds out Ricky will be a dad, groan she is boring too awful storyline
I'm against underage pregnancy but I think she needs to tell the father of the baby for him to have his say yes she's 12 but lily got a loving family that can support her
She is not the one who is going to ended up raising her or him anyway 😒🤨 Lily can't take care of herself 🤣 It be Martin and Stacey Job to raise yet another child they can't afford
I don't like this storyline at all. It's unrealistic. Most parents wouldn't support a 12 year old pregnant. With this storyline I feel it will encourage people now to get pregnant at that age. I'm pro life but when you're under age especially 12. I'm sorry but a baby is a big responsibility. Technically it's against the law to have sex under 16. How is that child no taken off her. Okay the father isn't a creepy nonce but she still had sex. The parent of both Ricky and Lily didn't keep an eye on these kids or have this important conversation. I get its lilys choice but come on ridiculously
Exactly Martin is her stepdad how many times do people have to tell him that. Social services made it pretty clear he is her step dad he even admitted it him self. The guy is getting pathetic.
What? So the Person who raised you ist Not your dad? Even in the Word stepdads IS dad in IT. But comsidered she has Not really contact to her Biologie father And her calling him dad, she Sees him as her dad. Sorry everybody can bekomme begetter but Not everybody IS beiing a dad to the Kid. Having one And beiing There for one.
@@aliyahhussain4553 one time ? There many Kids who are biology WHO call her Parents or refer to them Sometimes by their Name. Also He raised, all 3 Stacy, Martin ,Lili Sees him as her dad.
Ooh calm down! She’s not really having the baby it’s just a tv soap! Stop giving the actress hate , yeah shes 12 it’s young .. very young but if that’s the role she has to play let her do it, besides being a parent makes you reliase responsibilities and maturity so leave of the hate!
It will be very hard to have a baby as young as 12. I know this is an Act but in reality there are teens that are having babies and they don’t know what they are getting into. I had my bubs at 28 which is a good age but I really struggled.
Great way to advertise for teen pregnancy or in her case 12 year old story lines like this shouldn’t happen the whole teen pregnancy thing in mid 00s was a joke
Who's going to feed and clothe this baby? They have already got about a million children and people in that house. Martin is a lodger elsewhere so not much help Completely unrealistic potrayal of what life would really be like in that over crowded house with adults (4 adults now isn't it?) who work constantly. They have had to move in another person to affird the rent. All very well, people saying they are glad the BBC are tackling this issue but they are not doing it realistically. That house should be complete chaos most of the time, instead you have phantom children who stay in their bedrooms, small shared bedrooms, playing very quietly and don't appear to eat. No doubt, this baby will never cry and live in a drawer in Lily's room ( yet another room in the tardis house!). About time we saw some reality at the Slater house.
This storyline isn't encouraging kids to have kids. If Lily goes through with the pregnancy, I'm pretty sure it will inform kids how TOUGH it is being a parent
Didn’t work when Martin and Sonia was in school having a baby in their teens mid 00s teen pregnancy was rife kids having kids back then luckily kids have got smarter storylines like this will think it’s acceptable now
Stacey I m your mother I sitll your daughter miss simi slater flower family thank you tell Kat Alife he is my dad I am her father mother Kat thank you so much in my heasr
No she isn't. You wanna see a bad mother then look no further than Jabitch Bitcher who threw her own daughter under the bus by making up lies about her mental health, humiliating her infront of others and manipulating her emotionally by using her unborn kid as a way to save her own skin
I really hope this storyline doesn't go through, she's 12! It's absolutely ridiculous if they go through with a 12 year old having a kid😒
Exactly
Faye in corrie was 13 when she had a child
@@fallguysgamer833 and Sarah
It happens in reality, I think its good that they're addressing it.
As awful as it is, it does happen. The actress Merle Oberon's mother had her at 12.
You know what Martin and Stacey should turn around and make lilly realise what it means to have a baby they need to leave her with a new born for an entire week without any help( bcoz even with all the family and friends around there still comes a time where any parent of any age will need to manage things alone) so she knows exactly what she getting into and if she's not pulling out her hair by the end then she should have it.
I think Martin is making things worse which makes Lilly frustrated so she makes the wrong decision
No lily is a entilted little brat who hasn't had a good role modal of a mother. Martin isn't the bad guy at least he is seeing long run of her life being over. He's right about Ricky Jr. It's not like he's pregnant just dishing the sperm. Stacy is deluded to encourage the pregnancy like hello you'll have to pay for babies cloths etc. On top got away with having sex
The same could be said for adults
Kat giving advise to a 12 year old, she forgot her daughter was raised by her mother while she drunked and chase men .
The writters must hate women, girls, families.
The doomed Walford.
Lily needs tough love and a reality check. She cannot raise a baby at 12, even with any at all support behind her, she is still just a child herself.
Her mam and dad will raise it and when she is older the parents probably will still look after it
@@jamesoreilly2863 which I don’t agree with
Grow up
@@rubyymortimer7761 that’s what they should say to her.
Knew this was going to happen!! So predictable!! I mean she’s NOT EVEN a teenager!!!! She’s 12!! A CHILD!! 🤦🏻♀️
Omg lily wants to keep and look after a baby, seriously 😂 she couldn't look after a box of crayons
Well i knew she would end up changing her mind again
This storyline is grim even for Eastenders.
Eastenders is the BBC sooo..
Nothing will be as grim as seeing a domestic abuse survivor getting killed by an abuser.
I seriously think that Lily is making a huge mistake by keeping her baby, which is going to be a very hard responsibility and also it will be a total disaster waiting to happen. All I can say is that Lily should have a termination or put the newborn baby up for adoption.
If this storyline goes ahead with Lilly having the baby then I will never watch Eastenders ever again. What kind of storyline is that encouraging kids to have baby’s. Pathetic absolutely pathetic, the writers should be sacked, like if you agree.
A 12-year-old does not know enough to make this decision. It would take a lot of calm, honest discussion to guide her. Adoption would be the best option, but we know how Eastenders deals with out-of-wedlock children. Everyone is selfish and demanding and pushy. Stacey is no example of how to be a mother. Overall, I believe Lily will be convinced to keep the baby, who will then be doomed.
Stacey does a fine job as a mother shut up
Have a baby is 24/7 job and it is exhausting mentally, physically & emotionally at any age, but at 12 your still a baby urself. You might have to quit school and stay home with the baby, how can you find time to revise for your exams, no weekends with your mates and you spend your money on nappies, formula and clothes, no more spending on yourself. Choosing to keep a baby at such young age you are throwing away your teen years, the best years of your life to be young, free and have fun as well as the rest of your life
Lily doesn't know what having a baby would mean it's hard work both mentally and physically and it doesn't matter what support she has from her family she would still feel the pressure like any new mum, Martin made a decision when Bex was a baby to have her adopted because he knew that he wasn't mature enough to raise her right, but Lily I think needs some tough love
I’m on martins side with this
my mum: omg no way
me: SLAYYYYY QUEEENNNN!!!
this is joke guys lol
Wow! What a twist! Who didn’t see THAT coming? It’s one thing that she is only 12 and wanting a baby but they have done this storyline SOOOO many times before! It’s not radical anymore like it was in the 1980s. Louise was only a few years ago.
Louise was an adult when she had peggy
Peggy was born December 6th 2019 and Louise was born November 6th 2001 so she was 18
@@tvwatcher1150 still really young and it was treated as a teenage pregnancy, plus cindy and lola before. It always runs the same, they consider an abortion then refuse, you will think they could loose the baby but that never happens to a teenager in this show. It is ridiculous that this plotline is repeated so many times
Corrie did 2000 with Sarah and Bethany.
@@emilysmith3393 more than 20 years ago, I have no problems with the plot or the fact that it is repeated. The problem is that Eastenders does this plotline so often it borders on self parody. And it is always beat for beat for beat the same each time, no abortion, no chance of EVER losing the baby.
Does she not realise she is 12? Just started High School and oh yeah, she is 12!
So it's her baby her decision no one else's she might be 12 but if she wants to keep her baby then that's what will happen
@@BelJbraithwaite22yes it’s her decision. But she’s 12, risk of her dying during pregnancy are high even if she does decides to keep the baby, there’s chances the baby will eventually die because of her age
@@BelJbraithwaite22 if it was real life she would be relying heavily on her family to raise her baby as well as her.
@@Grizzy2023 she'll be 13 when she gives birth so it's just another teenage pregnancy it's all good #Eastenders
@@Grizzy2023 that won't happen
I can’t believe Stacey is going to be a nan! She isn’t even 35 😂😂
😂😂😂
Shirley was a Nan at 26
@@bbcsoaphistorian123 wait how?!
@@rogerlamb3810 Shirley had mick at 14 and mick had Frankie at 12
@@bbcsoaphistorian123 walford needs a sexual health and abortion clinic on the square!
Why are the writers of EE so obsessed with 12-year-olds having kids? Dennis would have been 12 when Jada had Alyssa, Mick was 12 when Katy abused him and had Frankie, now Lily as well... Like what the fuck
It's really fucking depraved as well, the writers are giving off some weird projection vibes it's disgusting
Plus has ANYONE heard of contraception. Janine was unexpectedly pregnant as well! This storyline is done so often it borders on self parody. The Guardian is singing its praises though!
Lily, make your bloody mind up will you. I can't keep up.
This storyline has only been going on, a few weeks, and I'm already bored of it.
Well said
@@user-be6nu2cj7e thanks.
Yes so am I for goodness sake let the professionals sort Lily out Martin and Stacy are clueless, I suppose Sam will stay when she finds out Ricky will be a dad, groan she is boring too awful storyline
@@tracymcardle1236 Martin particularly should just shut up
Please end this awful story line it's boring Lily will spend the next 9 months changing her mind every week boring......
I don’t know why your all complaining about Lilly wanting to keep her baby it’s Lilly’s choice despite her age u cent force someone to terminate
I'm against underage pregnancy but I think she needs to tell the father of the baby for him to have his say yes she's 12 but lily got a loving family that can support her
hes also only 13, so while he can have his say, ultimately its her choice
@Clouded Colour ik it's her choice but I think both should have a say and yes ik she's underage
She is not the one who is going to ended up raising her or him anyway 😒🤨
Lily can't take care of herself 🤣
It be Martin and Stacey Job to raise yet another child they can't afford
Shut up
Maybe Whitney will end up miscarrying again because of Zack's aids storyline, and Lily has her baby but gives him/her to Whitney to adopt
It's so fucking predictable at this point
@@vallarfaxgaming Lol I'm just guessing but yeah, maybe
It is ironic they are pregnant at the same time!!
It has to go through it
Pretty sick storyline. Enders don’t go encouraging these decisions!
I agree. This is gonna encourage 12 year olds. Ffs look at kids on Tiktok now sing adult songs
Ridiculous she’s a child, kids these days are so more grown up than in my day
Stacey Slater but thing is about Martin Fowler he Kinep Keanu Tyler his Dark side
I don't like this storyline at all. It's unrealistic. Most parents wouldn't support a 12 year old pregnant. With this storyline I feel it will encourage people now to get pregnant at that age. I'm pro life but when you're under age especially 12. I'm sorry but a baby is a big responsibility. Technically it's against the law to have sex under 16. How is that child no taken off her. Okay the father isn't a creepy nonce but she still had sex. The parent of both Ricky and Lily didn't keep an eye on these kids or have this important conversation. I get its lilys choice but come on ridiculously
I still want Ryan to come back full time and Martin is not Lily's dad Ryan is and I think Lily is making a big mistake.
Exactly Martin is her stepdad how many times do people have to tell him that. Social services made it pretty clear he is her step dad he even admitted it him self. The guy is getting pathetic.
What? So the Person who raised you ist Not your dad? Even in the Word stepdads IS dad in IT. But comsidered she has Not really contact to her Biologie father And her calling him dad, she Sees him as her dad. Sorry everybody can bekomme begetter but Not everybody IS beiing a dad to the Kid. Having one And beiing There for one.
They keep saying strange things about stepdads.
@@sa-maganz5526 actually Lilly called him Martin just this year she uses Martin she doesn't see him as her dad at all
@@aliyahhussain4553 one time ? There many Kids who are biology WHO call her Parents or refer to them Sometimes by their Name. Also He raised, all 3 Stacy, Martin ,Lili Sees him as her dad.
Ooh calm down! She’s not really having the baby it’s just a tv soap! Stop giving the actress hate , yeah shes 12 it’s young .. very young but if that’s the role she has to play let her do it, besides being a parent makes you reliase responsibilities and maturity so leave of the hate!
No one’s hating the actress…
@@tvwatcher1150 most of the comments are 😂
@@AbzzAli which one
It will be very hard to have a baby as young as 12. I know this is an Act but in reality there are teens that are having babies and they don’t know what they are getting into. I had my bubs at 28 which is a good age but I really struggled.
Great way to advertise for teen pregnancy or in her case 12 year old story lines like this shouldn’t happen the whole teen pregnancy thing in mid 00s was a joke
Crowd: her body her choice. bodily autonomy. Abortion is murder.
Also crowd: she's 12 how dare she not have an abortion.
I don't agree with abortion it's up to the child although I thinks it's wrong at 12 pregnant.
I renumber Martin Fowler kenap Keanu Tyler in the werehouse
Who's going to feed and clothe this baby? They have already got about a million children and people in that house. Martin is a lodger elsewhere so not much help Completely unrealistic potrayal of what life would really be like in that over crowded house with adults (4 adults now isn't it?) who work constantly. They have had to move in another person to affird the rent. All very well, people saying they are glad the BBC are tackling this issue but they are not doing it realistically. That house should be complete chaos most of the time, instead you have phantom children who stay in their bedrooms, small shared bedrooms, playing very quietly and don't appear to eat. No doubt, this baby will never cry and live in a drawer in Lily's room ( yet another room in the tardis house!). About time we saw some reality at the Slater house.
Have you Forgot
This storyline isn't encouraging kids to have kids. If Lily goes through with the pregnancy, I'm pretty sure it will inform kids how TOUGH it is being a parent
Yeah right. Kids properly don't watch eastenders too busy on Tiktok flashing like adults and lip syncing to innapropiate songs
Didn’t work when Martin and Sonia was in school having a baby in their teens mid 00s teen pregnancy was rife kids having kids back then luckily kids have got smarter storylines like this will think it’s acceptable now
Stacey I m your mother I sitll your daughter miss simi slater flower family thank you tell Kat Alife he is my dad I am her father mother Kat thank you so much in my heasr
What you thinking she have a boy or girl. I think a girl
Stacey is a bad mum
She is
Exactly
No she not
@@aliyahhussain4553 Shut up
No she isn't.
You wanna see a bad mother then look no further than Jabitch Bitcher who threw her own daughter under the bus by making up lies about her mental health, humiliating her infront of others and manipulating her emotionally by using her unborn kid as a way to save her own skin
And I thought the bible exaggerated sodom and gomorrah
So they now want to Do a teenage pregnancy with a 12 year old girl.
*child pregnancy
So gross if she keeps it. Sad to mess your life up so young
What a joke.