Metallica Albums Ranked with Carlos Cruz (Warbringer) | Lock Horns
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- New Metallica is on the horizon so let's take a look back at past Metallica for the highs and the lows of a pretty wild career.
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Carlos Cruz was maybe the best guest you guys have had....good to see someone who doesn't simply acquiesce with the views of Dekay and Smith
I may get nuclear winter hate for this but I find myself going back to Load/Reload the most these days :O
2 hours!? For a band that only released 4 LPs?
You can talk a lot about first 4 albums cos they are amazing! 😁🤟😉
😂
😄👏👏👏
I think Puppets is their best album but that nasty crunchy production on Lightening makes it my favorite. If Puppets wasn't as clean as it is then it would probably be my favorite overall.
Yep!
Blayne is saying exactly what I would say about Ride the Lightning. Trapped Under Ice is my favorite Metallica song ever.
Trapped under ice is the song that best demonstrate's James downpicking. Insane song.
Death Angel did a cool cover of Trapped Under Ice too.
I’m loving this video, you guys are right up my alley with these takes.
Keep these coming boys they're great
Welcome Home (Sanitarium)....arguably, the most perfect metal song ever recorded, Dekay
I was there for the Black Album release. We cut school to go buy it. We were all really disappointed...and we went and saw them twice on that tour.
I could not disagree with the opinion on and justice for all more it was easily my favorite metallica album ever. It was so pissed off, and is the angriest album they released. And hot take i didnt dislike a single metallica album other than st anger and lulu.
My favorite as well.
There's no way DM or H2SD are below the Loads.
Reload has way more filler than Load. Fuel is nullified by Low Mans Lyric. But yea, take the best 8 tracks between them and you have a pretty solid release.
Hardwired was their best album since TBA.
And TBA belongs in S tier. You cant separate the impact it had, not only for them but the genre in general. Is it thrash? no. Is it kick ass heavy metal? fuck yeah!
The black album is a masterpiece
Hard to imagine the album with Enter Sandman, Sad but true, Wherever I roam and Nothing else matters is not at least A tier, especially with THAT production (which was arguably pioneering) and the gigantic cultural footprint it made. After all, ask someone in the street to name a Metallica song and it’s definitely not off Ride, Kill or …And Justice.
Rock for princesses
@@tomrochester7381 more famous doesn't mean better.
@@tomrochester7381 well this is from the metal community's perspective, not from a normie.
nah....it's slow, boring and shit
Black Album should be in the S tier alongside Lightning and Puppets.
My top 5 Metallica albums
1. ...And Justice For All
2. Master Of Puppets
3. Ride The Lightning
4. Kill 'Em All
5. Black Album
Cliff was what made Metallica great. When he died, so did they.
Calling St. Anger "truly a demented record" made me laugh out loud 😂
S - KEA RTL MOP AJFA
A - Black
B - DM HWTSD
C - LOAD
D - RELOAD
F - Anger
100% agree with this ranking 🤘🏽
If Death Magnetic had better production it would be high B tier. I feel like it’s super underrated, especially considering what they had done over the previous 15 years or so.
It’s S tier if you put it up against Load, Re-Load and St. Anger, lol.
Carlos was the best part of this video. He's probably a bit busy with his band but he should really replace some of the BangerTV guys. Dude actually knows his stuff which is refreshing.
I feel like the Load-era is definitely underrated. Sure it's not metal at all but they put out some pretty dope bluesy bangers during that time. Definitely some dud songs throughout but Bleeding Me and Outlaw are some in the upper echelon of songs they've written IMO.
Facts.
The Black Album is A tier. My goodness.
Only 1 and a half good song
@@russell2890More like only 1 and a half bad songs.
@@Nacnud92 We agree to disagree.
C Tier, probably
The Black album to me would be the last album they did I can listen all the way through without skipping. After that, Load is the up there I guess, I can listen to about 7-8 songs off the 16 (17?) songs. ReLoad I can't listen at all except for 2 songs or so, I have to skip everything, the rest are the same, 4-5 songs TOPS, then skip.
I was 12 in 91 so TBA was just as good as Nevermind and Dirt so I'll put that thing in A. The songs are too good!!
S: MOP, RTL
A: TBA, KEA, AJFA
B: DM
C: ReLoad, HTSD
Why: Load, SA
I’m with you on this but switch dm with htsd
S Tier
1 RTL
2 MOP
A Tier
3 AJFA
4 TBA
5 72 Seasons
6 HTSD
7 KEA
B Tier
8 DM
C Tier
9 Load
10 Reload
WHY?
11 St Anger
I am SOOOOO excited for y'all to shit on St Anger, this is gonna be good
Hell yeah Trapped Under Ice is the best deep cut Metallica thrash tune.
Wouldn't it be more interesting if three people who actually love Metallica so this, instead at least two out of three make it clear they don't like the newer stuff? Also, how is "Risk" coming out in 1999 "way later" than "Load" coming out in 1996?
no.
Do you also think Charlie played the right double bass on the DEMO for "Dyers Eve"? This may be the dumbest rakning video, except for the guy to the left. He seems to have some actual insight.
Ugh. RIP was a reaction to AJFA, CTE was a reaction to TBA. Metallica went their own way, Megadeth nervously followed them. This is just dumb. Man, I remember this company making "A Headbanger's Journey" and seeing it at its Scandinavian premiere at the Stockholm Film Festival. This is embarrassing.
@@MetalPersonJ Let me check the records... You're wrong.
The newer stuff are objectively not good given the older stuff. There is simply no comparison. This is what it is and this is why these discussions end up like this.
Every album is S TIER
I like St.Anger, I like the production, I like the snare.
I like it as well
I love Justice.... for me, it's S tier.
I’ve always laughed at how everyone gives Mustaine all of this credit but the band put out all of their best material *after* he left the band.
Most bands write their best material on their sophomore efforts, otherwise they often don’t succeed
That's was just a reaction to the success of Metallica. Basically Mustaine created the controversy about the songs and continued it up until this day as a way to promote Megadeth (probably).
I'd love an Opeth tier list,
but when I think about it...
...putting all in S tier would be a boring vid 😜
Blayne doesn't like songs over 4 minutes long. Can't imagine he's a fan of Opeth...
@@taylorlambert5752 Except that one of his favourite albums of all time is Mirror Reaper by Bellwitch. There’s a song on that 80+ minute album. And no, I didn’t miss something off the end of that previous sentence. So I think it’s all about horses for courses really.
If the Black Album is your favorite Metallica record, then Jeff Foxworthy is probably your favorite comedian.
Him or Carrot Top.
@@markandersen793 Nah... If LOAD is your favorite Metallica record, the Carrot Top is you're favorite comedian! 🤣
The thing thaqt should not be is SOOOO heavy! IT doesn't have much speed but it grinds your soul apart
Carlos- weapons of tomorrow is a masterpiece. Congratulations
I did not even see the episode yet, but i'm typing my top Metallica albums to compare as i watch along.
01. Master Of Puppets (1986)
02. Ride The Lightning (1984)
03. Black album (1991)
04. Death Magnetic (2008)
05. And Justice For All (1988)
06. Kill 'Em All (1983)
07. Load (1996)
08. Hardwired To Self-Destruct (2016)
09. St. Anger (2003)
10. Reload (1997)
of course "Lulu" was a Lou Reed album featuring Metallica & Garage Days Re-revisited & Beyond Magnetic are EP's
I'm sorry, but putting The Black Album at B is lazy. Sure, it's not thrash but there's so much good songwriting, great performances and sweet production on that album. It's not trying to be epic thrash but middle of the road heavy metal with a beefy sound and an attitude. Whether you like it or not, it should be at A level. And calling The Unforgiven "objectively a bad song" is equally lazy. Otherwise, great show!
This was a fun watch/listen. To me, not sure how And Justice can be anything other than "S". That record is a masterpiece (IMHO). That is the record that changed everything. Metal and especially more extreme metal (which Thrash/Speed was at the time this came out) never was given ANY legitimacy...until this record. People could not ignore this music any longer - they had to recognize the talent of the musicians. At this time, the technical chops were amazing. It was heavy AF, fast AF, but still clean and IMHO, this was the album that basically laid down the gauntlet. ...not just to the world at large, but to the rest of the metal community. It was like, here is something you have never heard before - now top this??? And yes, that evolution has continued since then. But this was a ground breaking, earth shattering moment and it altered the course of metal.
Masters of Puppets is their best album. Ride the Lightning, and And in Justice for All are a close 2nd and 3rd albums
For a band that's been around as long as they have, Metallica don't have a lot of albums.
If the Black Album is your favorite Metallica record, you probably order your steak well done.
My list Master of Pupets,Ride the Lightning,Black Álbum,Justiçe and For All e Kill em All
Justice needs to be in S tier!!!
Songwriting-wise, yes.
But the sound, bro, the sound 🤮
@@laertesdd The sound is amazing.
@@AT-5000_Autodialer
Agree to disagree. I find especially the drum sound abysmal.
@@laertesdd nah.. It basically had to be that way.. it's the angriest sounding of all the albums.. it's just seething rage and blindness
It's kind of interesting how the complaints about Justice that people make here are the complaints leveled at Metallica at the time - and they are the reason they DID the Black Album. So when people complain about either of those albums - they kind of make sense as a reaction to one-another. I guess people hoped that after Justice they would backtrack to something like Puppets again - but they were always moving forward and for better or worse - that's what got us the Black Album. Which is NOT a Hard Rock record - it's a Metal album. That tone, that sound - it's just so.....metallic!
S: RTL, MOP, AJFA, TBA
A: KEA
B: ReLoad, SA, DM, HTSD
C: Load
Y: Lulu
Can't wait for the Slayer edition!
AJFA is still my favorite more often than not.. Figured Blaine would just C tier it for length. Blackened is their best track ever and I've been there from almost the beginning. Of course just ask me on a different day and maybe you'll get a different answer. Definitely their angriest.
I hated St. Anger for the first couple years and came around to it later, dark horse for me. Also, Beyond Magnetic EP was a welcome surprise I dig it.
Blackened is also my favorite track from them
Funny the banner at the beginning read "black metal" but it is one of the few sub genre actively ignored by this channel
I love the Load and Re-Load Albums. Plus, I i really like St. Anger, to me its like a Raw in your face Metallica in a Garage!! Not every album has to sound like Master of Puppets!!
Lightning, Puppets, Justice, Kill, Black, Magnetic, Hardwired, Load, Reload, St Anger.
I’ll listen to Cruz. He can actually write legitimate riffs.
Not all bands take the same path. I applaud Metallica for giving me countless hours of entertainment. I’m not going to sit around as a grown man and compare what a dude wrote when he was 20 vs. 50 years old. Metal snobbery at its finest.
Yeah Metallica became a rock band in the late 80s to very early 90s. Nit to say they'd never write more metal but overall their songs became predominantly rock, to me. Its probably not even a controversial. Also for me:
1) Master of Puppets
2) Ride the Lightning
3) Kill 'Em All
4) Everything else in no particular order...
If the Black Album is your favorite Metallica record, then you're name is probably Kyle.
Have you guys fucking heard ‘Blackened’?! - best quote from this whole thing.
Black Album us undoubtedly A Tier, it's such a great metal music gateway album.
Not only that, the songs are just really good
It's pure shit. The biggest sellout in music history. My god.
Like who needs yet another Tallica ranking about anything, but w these guys it’s GREAT! The JP ranking chat was awesome
Where's the slayer tier list, with Daniel too. He's opinionated to hell and has great insight.
Uunlike the majority of people's I love all the Metallica album's I enjoy metal music specially heavy chonky riffs sure I don't listen to em anymore because I progressed into the extreme and aggressive side of metal but still
1. Master of Puppets (1986)
2. Ride the Lightning (1984)
3. ...And Justice for All (1988)
4. Metallica (1991)
5. Kill 'Em All (1983)
6. Death Magnetic (2008)
7. Load (1996)
8. Hardwired... to Self-Destruct (2016)
9. 72 Seasons (2023)
10. Reload (1997)
11. St. Anger (2003)
I think Justice is *way* better than Kill Em All.
The long songs for me in Metallica never made sense mostly because they didn't have the musical chops and changes in songs to justify long albums. Nonetheless, some of their legendary songs do happen to be the longest, but yeah, they were no prog band or like later symphonic bands, etc.
First 4 legendary, then black album VG, Load n REload ok, anything afterwards it's a waste of time.
P.s Warbringer kicks ass!! 🤟
What's VG? Very good? If so, agreed.
@@laertesdd yeah VG=very good 😊
hell, I might put justice at S it's atleast an A
The Black Album is the grandfather of Five Finger Death Punch.
Master of puppets and then you can argue the rest
When you have cero idea for a show!
I wanna see a Helloween and Prong tier list!
They only do radio "metal"
@@Radowitzki Helloween and and Prong are radio metal? lol. Oh and I'm sorry I forget this place is filled with people who probably don't think something is metal if it doesn't have inaudible vocals and blast beats. Gtfo, you're a joke if you don't consider either of those bands metal or if you think they're radio bands.
Thing and Sanitarium are miles superiorly better than ice and Escape. This is coming from a mid 80s tallica fan.
I agree with this ranking mostly. Couldn’t care less about Load and Reload ..a few good songs across both albums.. but besides Fuel nothing to remember much for me. Not a NASCAR fan or pickup driver so not much for me here.
I disagree that Death Magnetic doesn’t deserve to sit shoulder to shoulder with the Black album. I was a Metallica fan from Ride The Lightning and held them high and the Black album didn’t change that I loved it instantly. Bob Rock was meant to just give them the bass and drums sound Dr Feelgood had. The change in vocals came from him encouraging James to sing more and this was also around the time Bon Jovi was doing Dead Or Alive so the cowboy stuff was popular.
Anyway, getting back on topic, I think Death Magnetic would have actually worked better as a transition album from Justice to the Black album as it followed the template to a tee and after just listening to it I think it’s just as good as Black. Originally when it came out I thought it sounded a little forced and trying to sound like Justice but listening to it today it sounds fine. They made a big deal about the solo’s coming back in the advertising and all I could think of was Kirk saying back in 90’s that the Kids don’t want solo’s anymore.
Like justice it is a bit too long especially though Unforgiven to Judas and Suicide. Suicide should have been a B side and even then as a instrumental edited as it’s way too long and repetitive and ultimately goes nowhere. Unf3 and Judas could be taken out too and the songs on Beyond Magnetic put on the album instead. I think it would be better for it. I agree with DK that it is a solid B and is as strong as the Black album. Of Wolf and Man from the Black album is good because it’s basically a Venom song. Just saying.
Hardwired is too damn long and a C for sure, however on the 3 disc version the live disc absolutely slays and is better than the actual album. It’s what totally annoys me about the band. How is it they can play the old classics like a beast yet somehow can’t remember how to create songs even slightly like that. Bewildering, yeah they’re old and different people but at least as musicians they could create something either similar or a little different but have the core elements there. Muscle memory and a little self plagiarism should help right? I mean look at Lux Aeturna , Kill Em All vibes all over it, and Kirk rips himself off in that solo. It’s a solid song, James kills it vocally, and all they have done is rip themselves off lol
The only other thing I would change is the most obvious thing that Chat screwed up. Ride The Lightning is better than Master Of Puppets. It just is no debate.
Ride The Lightning
Master Of Puppets
Kill ‘Em All
And Justice For All
Black Album
Death Magnetic
Hardwired To Self Destruct
Load/ Reload
StAnger
That’s my Ranking.
Have a great one guys 🤘
Reload has the standout tracks, but WAY more filler and terrible songs than Load. Neither are gems but as a full album experience I'd far prefer Load.
Guy with cap has some problems
Curious why did Carlos say that Hetfield is ripping off Iommi on every album
At 42:06 what did Dekay mean by "Charlie Benante's double bass"? Why would you think that Ulrich didn't actually play that? What's the evidence?
Load is fucking good. It's them being a southern stoner rock band...it's like mid COC.
Justice could be the greatest metal album of all time, they never have and never will do anything to top it.
agree, heavy metal never has or will get a better, these fools complaining that the songs are too long.
Could be but it isn't. Bot even the best Merallica album which btw you know what is. Hetfield sounds bored on justice.
@@tiborosz1825 most inspired vocals he ever laid down, what are you going on about?
@@elevenAD rasmussen said Hetfield did not want to sing. Album focused on music. No bass no reverb no Cliff. Subpar album. Harvester of sorrow is a snoooozer
@@tiborosz1825 Sorry bud you lost me at Harvester of Sorrow is a snoozer.
Load is miles better than Reload!
S: MOP, RTL
A: KEA, AJFA
B: HTSD, M, DM
C: L, R, SA
And justice for all is the greatest album of ALL TIME
Hahahaha
Dekay comparing Rust in Peace to the black album is kind of a cop-out. There was about a year difference in when they were released. Plus as they were saying with Justice, by that time they were already playing huge crowds. I'm sure that had something to do with how they approached this album. Trim it down, and go for what we think the crowd would go nuts for in an arena. No I do not think the black album is their best album. But damn did they do one that had mass appeal. They tightened it up and got great production (the album *sounds* great). There are songs I really don't care for on it for sure. But as for an all-time album? It's definitely good.
Lars got the sound from the snare by taking the actual SNARE off the bottom lol
"Dickrash"? Wtf? I don't recall that being the title. Who knew.
Also, just for the record, Master of Puppets is a little better than Ride the Lightning. Disposable Heroes, and Leper Messiah are better than Trapped Under Ice and Escape. While there's nothing wrong with the call of cthulu, Orion is the apex of all Metallica instrumentals.
Hard disagree
James was sometimes singing dickrash in 80s. MoP is the best!
I would never say the black album is the greatest metal album of all time but I think the hate it gets really unwarranted.
Without that album, I never get into not only Metallica but bands like Pantera, Ozzy, Slayer, Megadeth, Fear Factory, Sepultura, Black Sabbath etc.
It’s fine if someone doesn’t like the album but it’s win guys try to psychoanalyze Metallica and tell us why they did it I think is really dumb. They’ve been saying the same thing for 30 years now. I mean Jason has admitted that there were times he got tired of playing inter Sandman on that three-year tour but as someone who’s been in four different bands in my adult life, you get tired of playing songs, whether they’re good or not, even some of my favorite songs, I would get sick of playing sometimes, but he never changed his story on why the band made the album. I mean they have always tried to do something different. You can’t tell me that ride. The lightning is a redo of Kill Em All.
In the 80s they put out four of the best thrash metal albums ever. It’s not like the black album isn’t heavy. It’s heavy as fuck. No it’s not got all of the technical stuff that the previous two albums had but that doesn’t mean it’s a bad album. I hate this stupid argument that music can’t be good unless it’s super technical. I give props to all the really technical bands out there because I know it’s not easy and it does take work but it’s not the end of all of songwriting.
I know it’s the metal thing to do to shit on Bob rock but the guy is a damn good producer that black album sounds amazing. It’s probably the best produced metal album of all time. And it’s not like they hadn’t written songs like that when you listen to how they played live before the black album it’s very much like what Bob Rock says. They had not had an album that sounds as heavy as they do live. Go listen to the album version of songs like For Whom The Bell Tolls, The Thing That Should Not Be, Harvester of Sorrow, and there’s plenty other songs like this when they play those songs live I could easily see those songs on the black album. That black album sounds like Metallica maybe just not as fast but I think it’s just dumb for hating a band because they didn’t do the same thing over and over again.
And yet here we are today in 2024 and their last three albums are the exact opposite of the criticism. He is giving the black and everyone that hates Metallica after the 80s hates the new albums too. So one minute we’re complaining it’s not thrash enough not fast enough and then they go back to that and people still aren’t happy. Not saying any of their albums in the last 20 years are as good as their first five but please show me all the other artist, that didn’t have a dip here and there. Everyone has their peak to think any artist is going to stay at their peak forever is kind of ridiculous.
I would go for St Anger. Mostly for personal reasons and the period in my life when it was released.
Easy !! Ride the lightning , kill 'em all, Master ....... then Cliff died and Metallica with him . I was 13 when Kill em all came out , it changed everything !
Metallica after The Black album was total radio rock heavy until 2008 Death Magnetic. St Anger was supposed to be their comeback but they dropped the ball. The garage album was cool and SnM was alright. 90s Metallica was riding the waves from the 80s albums.
Ride is the best!
Yesss... 🤘🏻
Carlos Cruz is a beast
Escape is basically a Bon Jovi song *mic drop*
Black is definitely A tier,Hardwired and 72 Seasons are B,Load and Reload are Y tier ,these 2 albums should have been released as a side project not Metallica records.
what are you talking about, they literally played metal militia pt.2 on hardwired.
Literally?
Honestly I'd put S/T above Justice in A tier. Some of those songs can't be denied. I never get sick of The God That Failed.
I bet you drink Coors Light.
hahaha. what?
@Daniel - How can you not hear the bass on Slayer's albums?
Load doesn't have an album cover. It has an alcum bover.
We all know THE Metallica album.
are they really only 4th biggest rock band of all time?
01. Ride The Lightning (1984)
02. Master Of Puppets (1986)
03. Kill 'Em All (1983)
04. And Justice For All (1988)
05. Black album (1991)
06. Reload (1997)
07. Load (1996)
08. St. Anger (2003)
09. Death Magnetic (2008)
10. Hardwired To Self-Destruct (2016)
Most Rick Rubin-produced albums I heard sound awful (all seem to be in the "loudness war" era). Metallica, Slayer, Red Hot Chilli Peppers...and I'm sure he also produced some pop artists I might have heard an album or two when I was little and then later found out he produced them, and those sounded awful as well (and of course, too loud).
Metallica themselves dont even consider themselves Metal anymore. They called the music they make now "hard rock". A shame really even though i can still cherry pick bangers out their discography.
After Justice, there’s nothing worth ranking.
MOP vs. RTL? 6 of one, half dozen of the other.... I'll take MOP ever so slightly
My tier list 🤘🏻
S: RtL, MoP
A: AJfA
B: Black Album
C: KEA
The rest of the albums can go to hell 👹
Entertaining video guys 🤘🏻
For me its a bit different though.
S: Masters Of Puppets, The Black Album
A: Ride the Lightning, Kill 'm All
B: And Justice For All.., Hardwired, Death Magnetic
C: Reload
Why?: Load, St Anger, Lulu
Fuel? Are you kidding me thats their worst song until St. Anger. Gimme fuel gimme fire, gimme all the I desire, come on, it's terrible. hehe