I've grown up loving The Carpenters, it broke my heart when I watched her documentary. She is not only beautiful but her voice is out of this world. I've raised my kids on this type of music, and I love when I hear my 12 year old singing along to real music and appreciating real musicians.
Think about how amazing that is. These two artists With the time that has passed and arrived in the online era, their songs, lyrics and music Still in my heart every day
Rob B I agee she was such a talented singer with a great voice. Her passing was a great tragedy to the entire music industry. She was one of a kind who I'm sure will remain us forever
she suffered badly from depresion and anorexia. she collapsed on stage a few times and was put into rehab. but nothing helped. it was down to a boyfriend she had knocking her around and saying she was fat and ugly. she moved in with richard her brother too feel safer but then rumours started flying around they were sleeping together which is what killed her. she just couldnt handle everything going on around her. beuitiful lady with a voice to match. music critics put her down saying she was boring and couldnt sing which made her even more depressed but she carried on singing anyway. loved the carpenters since i was about 10. im now 60 and still love karen. she died young cause of all the haters putting her down.
(Star) Oh yes, wait a minute Mr. Postman (Wait) Wait, Mr. Postman Please Mr. Postman, looks and see ooh yeah~~~ If there’s a letter in your bag for me Please, Please Mr. Postman Why’s it taking such a long time ooh yeah~~~ For me to hear from that boy of mine There must be some words today From my boyfriend so far away Please Mr. Postman, looks and see If there’s a letter, a letter for me I’ve been standing here waiting Mr. Postman so patiently For just a card, or just a letter Saying he’s returning home to me Mr. Postman ooh yeah~~~ Mr. Postman looks and see If there’s a letter in your bag for me Please, Please Mr. Postman Why’s it taking such a long time ooh yeah~~~ For me to hear from that boy of mine So many days you passed me by See the tears standing in my eyes You didn’t stop to make me feel better By leaving me a card or a letter Mr. Postman, ooh yeah~~~ Mr. Postman looks and see If there’s a letter in your bag for me Please, Please Mr. Postman Why’s it taking such a long time Why don’t you check it and see one more time for me You gotta wait a minute, wait a minute Wait a minute, wait a minute Ooh~~ Mr. Postman Mr. Postman looks and see C’mon deliver the letter, the sooner the better Mr. Postman…
I Love love love the Carpenters, I play the cd's over and over and over. Thanks so much. I wish we could have this wonderful music in todays society. This young people dont know real music.
This was the first Carpenters song I remember hearing as a kid when I was about 8 or 9 years old. Even though it doesn't really showcase Karen's incredible vocal abilities like For All We Know or Superstar does I would still be in awe of that angelic voice coming through the radio . Once you hear Karen sing for the first time you never forget it.
The Carpenters were my #1 favourite from childhood, until I discovered Fleetwood Mac in the mid eighties. Karen's voice still gives me goosebumps, and always will. What an angel.
This was one of my Dad’s favorite songs and he used to play it on Sundays for me in the late 70s and especially after Karen passed. He passed in 2007 Please Mr Postman look and see if there’s a letter from my Dad for me. Rest In Peace Dad, May Karen’s soul Rest In Peace and God bless you Carpenters for timeless music even in 2019
What range and tone perfect. No other woman could sing like her. I’m 61 and it was a tragedy for someone that talented to die so young. Not very many people can sing and drum with the precision she had. According to her family she was saved by Christ at a very young girl. Singing in heaven. Thank you.
Just seen a TH-cam clip comparing her voice pitch live vs studio via computer live she was more accurate as in perfect. In studio recordings AFTER engineers have setup for a record her voice wasn't so perfect. They messed with perfection,!!!!
Im well into music and I put Karen at number 1 in my female vocal club ,amazing range ,was listening to the Carpenters since I was 8 we loved singing along to the brilliant hits ,The sadest loss to music
Her smile at 1:20 is killing me everytime im watching this video... Love u karen from philippines... Such a legendary singer/performer... The Carpenters lives forever in the heart of someone who truely appreciates their kind of music....
I enjoyed watching this clip, of the Carpenters visiting Disneyland California and is being with Mickey Mouse and friends, just right now and also thanks for uploading this clip for us to see. May 26, 2020 @ 1:20 am
There's no wrong this Brother and sister team can do. I always get such a happy feeling when I listen to their music. I've loved the Carpenters ever since I was kid way back when. So sad about Karen. I miss her, and will always love her music.
Karen had one of the most perfect God-given female voices in the history of female singing voices. Perfect intonation, pitch and projection. Man, what she could have done in any field of music she would ever choose.
Music videos back in those days were so great and they made sense. Music videos in these days are mostly crap. And I'm saying this being a 20 yr old boy. And, Karen looks so happy in this video. R.I.P.
KC was a disneyphile, look at her room decor, fans give her mikey mouse dolls at her grave in Westlake Village. I remember seeing an interview with a friend of KC trying to get her to eat by promising her an outing to Knotts Berry Farm if she would eat. I would say she was an amusement park fan
@@U2QuoZepplin Thats just what I was thinking, but bear in mind that Richard & his songwriting partner John Bettis had briefly previously worked at Disney. Apparently they were supposed to constantly play the same old historical tunes but frequently broke off into playing crowd-pleasing chart hits of the day - much to the annoyance of their boss who pretty soon sacked them - and his name was... Mr Guder! (Now those weirdly out of character anti-establishment lyrics suddenly make sense right? :-))
@@U2QuoZepplin Ihave seen an interview with Richard in whivh confirms that as a Disney fan Karen was having a great time, whereas he was unhappy about various aspects of the marketing, and kept having to be reinded to smile.
Date noted: April 16, 2019 Her songs where the first songs imprinted in my mind.. I'm 22 years old and I can still remember her songs when I was a kid..
The Carpenters, Richard and Karen, couldn't have chosen a better place to display their video of this happy-sounding hit. In Disneyland!! The Carpenters and the Disney characters look so beautiful and nice together.
This lady was a beautiful person inside and out. She definitely had the voice of an angel. She had so much going for her. It is so sad that she died at such a young age. I think that het music and her memories will live on forever
She was a beautiful person....poor woman just did not see it in herself. That marriage was a major setback. My niece died of the same thing in March of this year....she was only 27. Karen Carpenter was so talented.....still greatly missed. Fly high Karen and my niece Sarah.
MY TV don't worry! I'm 16 and 40's,50's, 60's, 70's music is the only music I listen to xD you're not alone. The carpenters are my favorite! I have almost all of their records on my record player
This is the least Carpenterized cover I have ever heard them do. All of the covers they did sound like Carpenters songs. They are so different than the version they are covering. But this song actually sounds like a cover a song by an entirely different group.
I know. I mean 'The Saturdays'! There's like 99 of them in the "band" - and they couldn't match the power of one Karen Carpenter. Girls - if you get by on your tits - why go into bat against Karen Carpenter? Pick a song associated with a more mediocre voice. Then people won't make such unfavourable comparisons.
Linda canción, me trae hermosos recuerdos de aquella infancia sin la tecnología de hoy, más familiar, más sencilla , cuando se disfrutaba de las cosas simples..
Oh I loved this when I was a little girl. I would see this video and wished I could go to America to go to Disneyland. I eventually got there in my twenties and gave a thought to the Carpenters remembering this. Karen Carpenter was absolutely beautiful and her soulful voice. I was so upset when she passed away 😢 but this song is uplifting and makes you feel happy 😊❤ x
People that appreciate talent and great music listen to this, no matter what year !! Great music is timeless! Karen had a one off voice ,they dont make em like her anymore!
This record is 45 years old and still as fresh as a daisy. very uplifting!
Yes indeed!
2023年の今はもつと新鮮です。カレンの歌をドライブで聴き胸が高鳴り涙が溢れ、景色に溶け込み鮮烈な記憶としてのこる。今も、これからも。日本からもアメリカからも、世界からも、これからも、いつまでも。
I love you Karen Carpenter, nobody else can sing as great as you,miss you like crazy 💔😭Rip to you Queen of Pop
The best female voice ever!
You got that right !!
Nope. Whitney.
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Whitney was very good, just not KC good!
Nope. Whitney.
I've grown up loving The Carpenters, it broke my heart when I watched her documentary. She is not only beautiful but her voice is out of this world. I've raised my kids on this type of music, and I love when I hear my 12 year old singing along to real music and appreciating real musicians.
You don't need a face muzzle.
Wenn Karen dich sehen würde, würde sie sagen: mach nicht die gleichen tödlichen Fehler wie ich
Maske runter! FREIHEIT!
Thank God for TH-cam so that these videos can live forever!
Wir fühlen das gleiche ❤
Think about how amazing that is. These two artists With the time that has passed and arrived in the online era, their songs, lyrics and music Still in my heart every day
Karen is so beautiful here, but her magnificent voice is even more so. One of the greatest singers, ever!
PODIS CRER EM 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🖐🖐
the greatest
the carpenters songs will never go out of fashion.
+yvonne kelly Totally Right.
It's not really theirs
Uncle Ruckus any song they cover lol
Never say never
I think their songs were out of fashion even at the time... that is why we always love'em
She didn’t have the perfect life- But…she will forever have the most beautiful voice❤️
She was the voice of the 80's, bless her.
@zav1491 What made you say she didn't have the perfect life? What happen to her?
Hearing her now makes me realize how much I loved her as a teenager!
She passed away in her 30s of anorexia @@Xhiye
@alandavidson9086 What songs she made in the 80s?
If only Karen could see what we could see then she’d be here today, R.I.P beautiful lady never forgotten shine bright 💔
karen carpenter has the best voice ive ever heard in my life no one will ever come close to her pure perfection sad she died so young
Rob B totally agree, beautiful voice and music
Rob B I agee she was such a talented singer with a great voice. Her passing was a great tragedy to the entire music industry. She was one of a kind who I'm sure will remain us forever
iwas born in 1979 so i was a toddler when karen died but i have always loved her she didnt look very well in this video i dont think
YES!!! BEST FEMALE VOICE EVER...EFFORTLESS!
she suffered badly from depresion and anorexia. she collapsed on stage a few times and was put into rehab. but nothing helped.
it was down to a boyfriend she had knocking her around and saying she was fat and ugly. she moved in with richard her brother too feel safer but then rumours started flying around they were sleeping together which is what killed her. she just couldnt handle everything going on around her.
beuitiful lady with a voice to match. music critics put her down saying she was boring and couldnt sing which made her even more depressed but she carried on singing anyway.
loved the carpenters since i was about 10. im now 60 and still love karen.
she died young cause of all the haters putting her down.
What a golden voice of Karen Carpenter! How lucky to be born back then to hear such beautiful songs of the 70's and 80's
Still listening to this lovely song and thinking of Karen. RIP.
The voice of an angel--we miss you Karen
She is singing for God now.
E VERO HOJE CANTA PRA "DEUS "😮😮😢😂❤
Angels could be jealous, her voice is heavenly beautiful..❤
(Star) Oh yes, wait a minute Mr. Postman
(Wait) Wait, Mr. Postman
Please Mr. Postman, looks and see
ooh yeah~~~
If there’s a letter in your bag for me
Please, Please Mr. Postman
Why’s it taking such a long time
ooh yeah~~~
For me to hear from that boy of mine
There must be some words today
From my boyfriend so far away
Please Mr. Postman, looks and see
If there’s a letter, a letter for me
I’ve been standing here waiting Mr. Postman so patiently
For just a card, or just a letter
Saying he’s returning home to me
Mr. Postman ooh yeah~~~
Mr. Postman looks and see
If there’s a letter in your bag for me
Please, Please Mr. Postman
Why’s it taking such a long time
ooh yeah~~~
For me to hear from that boy of mine
So many days you passed me by
See the tears standing in my eyes
You didn’t stop to make me feel better
By leaving me a card or a letter
Mr. Postman, ooh yeah~~~
Mr. Postman looks and see
If there’s a letter in your bag for me
Please, Please Mr. Postman
Why’s it taking such a long time
Why don’t you check it and see one more time for me
You gotta wait a minute, wait a minute
Wait a minute, wait a minute
Ooh~~ Mr. Postman
Mr. Postman looks and see
C’mon deliver the letter, the sooner the better
Mr. Postman…
Danke 🌹
(STOP) .Some word.Look and see.You Dumbass🖕🖕🖕🖕
I Love love love the Carpenters, I play the cd's over and over and over. Thanks so much. I wish we could have this wonderful music in todays society. This young people dont know real music.
I'm 14. GODDAMN IT I'VE GOT THE CARPENTERS ADDICTION
My father introduced this band to me when I was 5. I'm 17 and still loving The Carpenters 💖
@@TIMETECH07 You are too young to swear. lol
@@jeffmartin8924 never too young for me, heard 8 Year Olds that swear more than me
@@nicolelouisesantos5520 ?
This was the first Carpenters song I remember hearing as a kid when I was about 8 or 9 years old. Even though it doesn't really showcase Karen's incredible vocal abilities like For All We Know or Superstar does I would still be in awe of that angelic voice coming through the radio . Once you hear Karen sing for the first time you never forget it.
The Carpenters were my #1 favourite from childhood, until I discovered Fleetwood Mac in the mid eighties.
Karen's voice still gives me goosebumps, and always will.
What an angel.
This was one of my Dad’s favorite songs and he used to play it on Sundays for me in the late 70s and especially after Karen passed. He passed in 2007
Please Mr Postman look and see if there’s a letter from my Dad for me.
Rest In Peace Dad, May Karen’s soul Rest In Peace and God bless you Carpenters for timeless music even in 2019
What range and tone perfect. No other woman could sing like her. I’m 61 and it was a tragedy for someone that talented to die so young. Not very many people can sing and drum with the precision she had. According to her family she was saved by Christ at a very young girl. Singing in heaven. Thank you.
Just seen a TH-cam clip comparing her voice pitch live vs studio via computer live she was more accurate as in perfect. In studio recordings AFTER engineers have setup for a record her voice wasn't so perfect. They messed with perfection,!!!!
Remember watching this video every day when I was a little girl, thanks! I haven´t watched it in a loooong time .
The voice of Karen Carpenter is enchanting.
+Karen Ayelen Ruiz xD
That's a good word for her voice!
Im well into music and I put Karen at number 1 in my female vocal club ,amazing range ,was listening to the Carpenters since I was 8 we loved singing along to the brilliant hits ,The sadest loss to music
You know of so sad that she left us to soon she with never be for gotten her and her brother
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Great Video & Song in One of my Favorite Places Disneyland. RIP Karen (February 1983).
She looks so happy here.
Her smile at 1:20 is killing me everytime im watching this video... Love u karen from philippines... Such a legendary singer/performer... The Carpenters lives forever in the heart of someone who truely appreciates their kind of music....
Yes.One of my favorite still shots of Karen @ 1:20.
I enjoyed watching this clip, of the Carpenters visiting Disneyland California and is being with Mickey Mouse and friends, just right now and also thanks for uploading this clip for us to see.
May 26, 2020 @ 1:20 am
This was playing when i met my first love. Still rings a bell in my heart. Thanks karen xxx
aahh so in love with this song
Are you married to a mailman?
Hi kak fathia, i found you here haha
HALOO KA CHIA HAHAHHAA
@1:27 My all time favorite pic of Karen.I love when she runs toward the camera.Thanks for posting this great video.Love this song!
Nice. I love TH-cam. Thanks for uploading. I had never seen this before.
Any song she sings comes out Perfect!!
same.
Any song she plays on the drums ALSO comes out PERFECT! O_o
@@michellemorillo2765
Agreed.
I've always loved this toe tapper.
Cheers from Down Under!
Karen's singing voice is the most beautiful in the world. Carpenters will continue to shine!
Elton John and Paul McCartney called her the best female vocalist in their life.
Whitney.
I Agree and unfortubately they have twotragic ended @@tony4534
Richard, you are the musical arranger who cannot be out- done...EVER!!!
There's no wrong this Brother and sister team can do. I always get such a happy feeling when I listen to their music. I've loved the Carpenters ever since I was kid way back when. So sad about Karen. I miss her, and will always love her music.
Thanks, Agnes Carpenter.
hard to believe over 40 yrs ago
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Believe
Its 43 years ago !! Time flices !! She died in 1983 , at anorexia !!! Still mis her on ons de radio !!!
me too. Looks like yesterday.
37 years.
But whose counting.
She was and is an ANGEL...😇😇😇
I'm 22, but I love them since I was four
The perfect voice with the perfect pitch. One of the finest ever.
Beautiful song!
I'm everyday searching for new songs from The Carpenters, it was a great group.
Rest in peace, Karen.
Karen had one of the most perfect God-given female voices in the history of female singing voices. Perfect intonation, pitch and projection. Man, what she could have done in any field of music she would ever choose.
There will never be a voice as great as Karen Carpenter!!!!❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Music videos back in those days were so great and they made sense. Music
videos in these days are mostly crap. And I'm saying this being a 20 yr
old boy. And, Karen looks so happy in this video.
R.I.P.
THE VOICE! THE DRUMMER! THE LEGACY!!!
This takes me back to the seventies with nice childhood, family, memories. I long to to go back 😢
Me too! Greetings from Germany!
I love watching this because Karen looked so genuinely happy to be at Disneyland.
KC was a disneyphile, look at her room decor, fans give her mikey mouse dolls at her grave in Westlake Village. I remember seeing an interview with a friend of KC trying to get her to eat by promising her an outing to Knotts Berry Farm if she would eat. I would say she was an amusement park fan
Weirdly Richard doesn’t quite seem to show the same joy as his sister Karen..... 🥰
@@U2QuoZepplin Thats just what I was thinking, but bear in mind that Richard & his songwriting partner John Bettis had briefly previously worked at Disney. Apparently they were supposed to constantly play the same old historical tunes but frequently broke off into playing crowd-pleasing chart hits of the day - much to the annoyance of their boss who pretty soon sacked them - and his name was... Mr Guder! (Now those weirdly out of character anti-establishment lyrics suddenly make sense right? :-))
much better than jsw rant karen
@@U2QuoZepplin Ihave seen an interview with Richard in whivh confirms that as a Disney fan Karen was having a great time, whereas he was unhappy about various aspects of the marketing, and kept having to be reinded to smile.
The Carpenter are eternal. Love Karen and your beautiful voice!
Karen Carpenter has got to be the best female singer ever.
her voice was flawless.
Date noted: April 16, 2019
Her songs where the first songs imprinted in my mind.. I'm 22 years old and I can still remember her songs when I was a kid..
What a wonderful clear voice she had ❤ R.I.P. forever Karen ❤
Lovely vocal harmonies on this... Simple but stunning...
RIP. Karen. You had such a beautiful voice, hope your singing in heaven.💚🖤💚🖤
The Carpenters, Richard and Karen, couldn't have chosen a better place to display their video of this happy-sounding hit. In Disneyland!! The Carpenters and the Disney characters look so beautiful and nice together.
Still listening!❤
ミッキーだ!ディズニーランドかな?
これ、英語の授業かなんかで歌いました!
いい歌ですね!
good song!
カーペンターズの2人がディズニーに来ていたなんて貴重だな~。
Beautiful Karen...
This lady was a beautiful person inside and out. She definitely had the voice of an angel. She had so much going for her. It is so sad that she died at such a young age. I think that het music and her memories will live on forever
She was a beautiful person....poor woman just did not see it in herself. That marriage was a major setback. My niece died of the same thing in March of this year....she was only 27. Karen Carpenter was so talented.....still greatly missed. Fly high Karen and my niece Sarah.
The video is fantastic :P and so is beautiful Karen with her enchanting voice! May she rest in peace.
So perfect... ♥
We miss you, Karen. Forever.
Fun! I love seeing vintage footage of the park.
Karen looks beautiful and healthy here.
She sure does look healthy and happy.
@@debbieashton3440 Want to chat?
Absolutely great song! Love to sing along to it & all the wonderful Carpenters Songs 🎶🎤🥰💞💖🌈
I started listening to her songs when I was ten, and I can still listen to her voice every day.
You just can’t keep from dancing to this one.
I wish I was there with them D: RIP Karen.. I feel like i'm the only 15 year old girl who loves the carpenters and 1980's or 1970's music.
you're not alone. i'm 12
MY TV C'mon... I'm 5
;)
MY TV don't worry! I'm 16 and 40's,50's, 60's, 70's music is the only music I listen to xD you're not alone. The carpenters are my favorite! I have almost all of their records on my record player
You all gave me a smile. Glad you like this sort of music.
MY TV You have really good taste
I Bought this 45,as a Kid in the 70s!Played this version,till I Wore it Out😊!❤❣
A fantastic singer and a great drummer, too. 🙏🏼
I was 9 when this was on top of the pops in the UK. Ill never forget this song.
She looks & sounds amazing ❤❤
Luv it also one of their best. Karen seems to be having a blast
As an metal person i love this song and The Carpenters,.
This made me 😁 so big! Hell ya! 🤘
Ohhh yeahhh .. stronger than all
Check out the original by the Marvalettes.
Me too but why do such voices have to go so young,
This is the least Carpenterized cover I have ever heard them do. All of the covers they did sound like Carpenters songs. They are so different than the version they are covering. But this song actually sounds like a cover a song by an entirely different group.
Omg I remember this video as a kid. I haven't seen it since the 90's which makes me..never mind Mr Postman ;0)
Que voz,que letra,que música...e ainda o arranjo,agente não enjoa...melhor dupla de todos tempos,sou fã há 40 anos .
プエルトリコからだろう?坊や元気?
Rest in Peace, Karen Carpenter.
Great song ❤
my favorite version of this song
I'm here because I got sick of all the horrible imposters singing this song! Thanks Carpenters for bringing some joy back to my ears! lol
I know. I mean 'The Saturdays'! There's like 99 of them in the "band" - and they couldn't match the power of one Karen Carpenter. Girls - if you get by on your tits - why go into bat against Karen Carpenter? Pick a song associated with a more mediocre voice. Then people won't make such unfavourable comparisons.
@Emma Marino. What imposters this is not the original. The Carpenters covered it. Not only that it's the Carpenters biggest selling record.
A musica fala de carteiro
이런 영상 남아있어서 너무 좋아요! 카펜터스 노래중 밝고 경쾌한곡이라 좋아요. 리메이크 된곡으로 알고있는데 카렌의 목소리로 리메이크되어 좋아요. 천상의 목소리, 듣기 편하고 매력쪄는 카렌 목소리 최고에요!!
百聽不厭的老歌,永遠的巨星-Karen Carpenter ❤❤
Ah, the mid 1970's. There will never be another time like it. Jesus, Karen had an amazing voice.
Such a great song. Karen Carpenter was truly a wonderful singer.
Linda canción, me trae hermosos recuerdos de aquella infancia sin la tecnología de hoy, más familiar, más sencilla , cuando se disfrutaba de las cosas simples..
I love this song they were very successful here in Brazil. At the time I was a teenager, good memories.
HOY 14/11/2020 ES MI CUMPLEAÑOS 58 Y LO FESTEJO CON TU MUSICA KAREN!!!!💘💘💘💘💘💘
We thank God for you ,you were too sweet and we will always love you and your music
2023 AND STILL LISTENING GREAT MUSIC FROM BROTHER AND SISTER RIP KAREN
thank you - I remember this . happy memories.
There's a postcard waiting for her in Heaven.
Maybe Michael Landon sent it.
Thanks now I’m crying lol
RIP, sent
There's probably a LOT waiting for her in Heaven. I have one for her too 😢💔
Mr. Postman, please send my letter to Karen Carpenter in heaven.
A big brother with his little sister in their happier years... 😥❤️❤️❤️
Oh I loved this when I was a little girl. I would see this video and wished I could go to America to go to Disneyland. I eventually got there in my twenties and gave a thought to the Carpenters remembering this. Karen Carpenter was absolutely beautiful and her soulful voice. I was so upset when she passed away 😢 but this song is uplifting and makes you feel happy 😊❤ x
A voz da Karen é inigualável musica maravilhosa que faz bem á alma
Yes, better than anything else out there as well!! Great and talented!!🤩😇
I keep coming back to this...so many times. I miss her so much. Doesn't matter Karen - some of us will always love you.
Maravilloso!! Linda la Karen...🐦🐟🎶💃🌹♥️
There’s a postcard from all of us telling her how much we love her and that we will never forget her, waiting for her 🖤
this so is so nice
Karen had a voice of pure Gold ! Really miss her !
Bet they had a ball filming this
I Happy Just Watching!!!!! 😀😃😄💖
Brilliant ty seeing these at Billingham Forum! Can't wait!!
People that appreciate talent and great music listen to this, no matter what year !! Great music is timeless! Karen had a one off voice ,they dont make em like her anymore!