Really appreciate Welty for bringing up allegations of Nike’s labor practices and Uyghurs. It’s super relevant and I wish you guys touched on it more bc I feel like it wasn’t necessarily the quote itself that Nike had a problem with, rather how people might interpret it with the brand’s reputation.
From a far away admirer: From this episode one could finally conclude that footwear isn't synonymous, we all should find a niche of expression within the footwear scene, and I am witnessing that with you. The Education you share with the society, its immense and helpful.
Why didn’t y’all push the CEO of StockX a few weeks ago and ask him the hard questions, I mean throwing shade at them this episode but praising him when he in your show?
I think that sneakers getting a bad rep because of the head designer is sad because people forget that a lot of other talented designers worked on those sneakers too. How much of the design of Yeezy sneakers do you actually think was Ye’s work? It is more possible that they where made mostly by Steven Smith or other designers
“Bred” moniker I have no problem with. People ignorantly correcting “black cement 4” or even “playoff 11s”, acting like know it alls, i have a problem with. If we can adapt to the new lingo, you better also know the history of the OG ones
Welty's war on bred's is the equivalent to mine on the Panda Dunks, they're just Black/White Dunks!! Rather go by the colorway of the shoe unless there is a clear theme to it intended by the brand to warrant the use of a nickname
This idea that buying / utilizing someone’s product because you like the product = endorsing and aligning with everything the creator says and does is really dumb. Think for yourself and make your own choices. I don’t own any yeezys or Tom sachs shoes but if I did I’d rock em guilt free.
It’s hard listening to Welty talk because he says “like”every three or four words. The guy definitely knows what he’s talking about, and makes sense, but come on Welty.
I've never noticed this, and it is a huge pet peeve of mine! Welty must me my age because we were the first "like, like, like" generation. When I was 14, my dad offered to pay me a dollar a day if I stopped talking that way. I don't think he ever paid me anything, but it worked, and I stopped saying it like pretty quickly. (See what I did there?)
Brooo Weltys spot on with the dunk high shape comment! The highs I’ve bought recently are noticeably wonkier than the pairs I bought at the beginning of the dunk resurgence.
I was able to get a pair of the Jordan sb 4's from Crushed skate shop. It wasn't as chaotic as the videos show but there was no order at all. Everyone was just supposed to show up at the same time at the shop to get a ticket. No line was formed at anytime during the release which is what brought the madness.
Wdym it was chaos ppl pushing like crazy. Small crowds following the owner into the streets. Standing on a ledge dangling tickets in front of a mob of ppl is pretty chaotic, throwing tickets into a crowd is pretty chaotic. People copping shoes nowhere near their size and going straight to resell is not a release it’s an opportunity. Ppl threatening each other for a place in line is chaos stop the cap. If a pic says a thousand words then a video depicts a true representation of what went on.
Kick game properrrrrr ! What a great day to for a sneaker podcast and finally getting my 3’s today And I must say I feel I got a perfect pair. Really loved this episode ! Great job, guys !
The ones that still wear their YEEZYS, TOM SACHS etc... It's not that we're trying to make a statement. It's not that we DO or DO NOT agree with the creator's stance. Period point blank.... We spent our money, we like THE PRODUCT so we will wear what we like. It has nothing to do with whom the shoe is connected to. 🤷🏾♂️ At least me anyways
Pretty sure nike should NOT work with Tom Sachs anymore. Juice isn't worth the squeeze. Unless Ye apologizes and means it, no brands should work with him. I seem to be in the minority, but Nike should've stopped working with Travis. (And I'm a huge fan of his shoes.) There's other talent out there. These men are too problematic and in ways that are so far from ethical this shouldn't be a difficult decision.
You guys should talk about the Rukus drop that happened for the SB 4 in Baton Rouge - what a mess. it was FCFS and it was a joke. They had an "event" LOL
I don’t know what happened but I visited rukus in Louisiana and they were all good cool dudes. It’s just a shame sneakers have become this insane corny hype thing. They’re skaters and all these shops got this over the top situation put on them, and people get mad, it’s literally a skate shop not a sneaker boutique… I can’t imagine the pressure it is to deal with this kind of event/ drop
I never judge someone for wearing something like Yeezys and I won’t judge for wearing the Tom Sachs GPS. I personally sold my Yeezys but I also have a bunch of other sneakers I can wear, idk other peoples situations and their Yeezys might be their favorite daily sneakers. I would probably judge someone for wearing a Mars Yard lol because that person is def into sneakers and has plenty of options.
Thats messed up StockX did that. 1 here and there once and a while is expected because humans make mistakes for whatever reasons. But that many even individually around the same time is bad. Cancel them.
For the price of these rare shoes then nike should make a tag to authenticate them...they bring in enough money to afford to do it.And this is something that should have allready been done years ago
that was me who commented it about Welty calling the Jordan 4 black cement instead of breds, because somebody even commented back saying Welty is a OG, so he keeps the term black cements…. Glad to see they watching the comments -MackMizzle323 I need a s/o lol
By choice for me they are made better imo especially kickwho his shoes are so well made and my favorite rep is a bred I got from Viberemakelab I own a pair of og 85 breds that my dad restored and vibes are so close to the original I love wearing them
But fact is gardenia raffle wasn’t even done live most ppl that do win are followoed by crush I know skaters that always get the oop from the store and they ain’t even flow skaters
He's actually a well educated man who did what they beg others like him to do, & he gets asked questions he can't answer to the point of nausea. He's even a level 4 seller as he did all that to improve where he could . How is that a talking head?
Idk seems like y’all are feeling yourselves a little too much. Wilty mentions Brandon wears Tom Sacks twice and now all of a sudden Brandon thinks he needs a public announcement saying he’s not the Tom sax guy 😂 no one cares and it’s not that serious.
Anyone who watches the podcast will know that he has been wearing those Off White Jordan 5 muslin for multiple episodes. Not hating, this is 1 of my grails, but you get free shoes Bro, Represent!
Wdym that video is a clear depiction of went on at crushed. It was pure chaos for 30 minutes cops even dipped out from the front. Crushed is not legit at all same people getting the same drops there isn’t a backdoor but they should install one. Nike should not give accounts to people under 40 cus it’s a bunch of kids hooking up their friends. This is not a biased review but there is no structure. Raffle should of been called off. People who got tickets couldn’t even get their size so they just grabbed what ever. They did the lobster raffle on ig but conveniently skipped it this time around. Crushed SB drops should be yeah handled by a third party. Abdul is tryna save the shops image and so they don’t lose their account. There’s a reason why every skate shop has closed at that location. Friends of the shop get a heads up for every drop. The shop is poorly ran unfortunately really could be so much more 😢
How could you not even entertain the idea that stockx are willingly buying reps from China. You have to be pretty naive of you believe stockx and the other reseller stores are not buying in bulk from china.
All ready got 2 pairs I'm passing on em. They probably will be crips on 5 years since I always buy new socks and usually never where my sneakers more then 5x a year so yeah I'mma let someone else get them.
Does anyone else ever see the sneakers in the thumbnail and choose which one to watch for this reason? I came for the mocha 1s and I'm still waiting to hear about them
The QR thing you can fake all of that! These expensive items are never gunna be bought by ppl wiv limited budgets so the company's aren't loosing money! 💯
Haven't listened to the episode yet but this title after having Scott Cutler on the show and throwing him complete softball questions is actually hilarious in a disappointing way.
If that 110-pair story is true, then im not using any reseller site for ANY apparel, nike or otherwise. I was about to take a gamble on a Mulberry bag, not anymore.
I guess I'm never going to buy sneakers from stockX anymore!! I mean, the whole point for their existence should be to verify the sneaker to be legit if 38 pairs of 62 where fake that tells me they don't care even a little bit if they sell fake shoes true there site
StockX was a great idea and all but it’s really hard to still consider them to be a credible company … Also I’ve always said that a lot of people who you consider “real sneaker heads” are out here rocking fakes and they don’t even know it
Will you still buy sneakers on StockX?
You’re a straight sucker if you still buy on StockX lol
Yes.
@@thomaspayton_ no
I've never shopped there but,hearing that I doubt it lol,
Yes. Biggest company that can handle global supply and demand. 1 time bad experience but they refunded me full amount right away.
Really appreciate Welty for bringing up allegations of Nike’s labor practices and Uyghurs.
It’s super relevant and I wish you guys touched on it more bc I feel like it wasn’t necessarily the quote itself that Nike had a problem with, rather how people might interpret it with the brand’s reputation.
It would’ve been nice if it was mentioned sooner but I guess better late than never. Unless I missed an earlier reference from a previous pod.
Yes! Wish they would address it.
This is without a doubt my favorite podcast in life. Great to have you guys back regular!
I will always call them black cement 4s that’s what’s I grew up with during the Nike talk and iss days
I really couldn’t care less about a reseller getting ripped off.
Espero que todo el que esté viendo esto tenga un buen día y que Dios lo bendiga a todos desde república Dominicana
From a far away admirer:
From this episode one could finally conclude that footwear isn't synonymous, we all should find a niche of expression within the footwear scene, and I am witnessing that with you. The Education you share with the society, its immense and helpful.
Why didn’t y’all push the CEO of StockX a few weeks ago and ask him the hard questions, I mean throwing shade at them this episode but praising him when he in your show?
I think that sneakers getting a bad rep because of the head designer is sad because people forget that a lot of other talented designers worked on those sneakers too. How much of the design of Yeezy sneakers do you actually think was Ye’s work? It is more possible that they where made mostly by Steven Smith or other designers
Black/Cement 4 is what I called them.
“Bred” moniker I have no problem with. People ignorantly correcting “black cement 4” or even “playoff 11s”, acting like know it alls, i have a problem with. If we can adapt to the new lingo, you better also know the history of the OG ones
preach these new cats embarassing themselves
The 4s are officially the Black Cements,they were named the Bred later
I say breads unless it’s the white cement 4s… Only because those were my first pair of 4s and that’s what they were called lol
You guys didn’t ask Scott F ALL!!!! Stop it. You let him lie !
Welty's war on bred's is the equivalent to mine on the Panda Dunks, they're just Black/White Dunks!! Rather go by the colorway of the shoe unless there is a clear theme to it intended by the brand to warrant the use of a nickname
I don’t get the hype with those Panda Dunks I see everyone with them
Great episode, always appreciate Welty wearing the NB heat 🔥
Joe Lapuma looks like a Bob's burguer character
Don't forget guys *DTLR backdoors returned items that were meant for StockX but they didn't pass StockXs authentication*
Dunne will always and forever be BokBoys nothing else, can't wait for Boktober.
And he is more a jjjjound guy, until the next scandal lol
This idea that buying / utilizing someone’s product because you like the product = endorsing and aligning with everything the creator says and does is really dumb. Think for yourself and make your own choices. I don’t own any yeezys or Tom sachs shoes but if I did I’d rock em guilt free.
It’s hard listening to Welty talk because he says “like”every three or four words. The guy definitely knows what he’s talking about, and makes sense, but come on Welty.
I've never noticed this, and it is a huge pet peeve of mine! Welty must me my age because we were the first "like, like, like" generation. When I was 14, my dad offered to pay me a dollar a day if I stopped talking that way. I don't think he ever paid me anything, but it worked, and I stopped saying it like pretty quickly. (See what I did there?)
I like like
“NFT’s are Dumb!”
I had to go back into the comments just to tell you thank you and 100% facts! some dumb s*** for real
Bruh I feel bad for whoever got tricked into buying those 😂😂😂 🤡
You guys should look up Division Street by Phil Knight and NIL rules for students.
NFTs are NOT monkey pictures
Take it back
I’m shocked I got a W on these I’ve literally lost on every Jordan 4 and I finally have a pair
I know when Complex Sneakers Podcast is here that the Weekend has Begun!
Brooo Weltys spot on with the dunk high shape comment! The highs I’ve bought recently are noticeably wonkier than the pairs I bought at the beginning of the dunk resurgence.
I love this podcast
1 hour of this podcast is never enough. This trio is the reason why im still hanging in the sneaker culture.
Matt 💯. Stand on what u believe in bruh. BLACK CEMENT 🫡
I was able to get a pair of the Jordan sb 4's from Crushed skate shop. It wasn't as chaotic as the videos show but there was no order at all. Everyone was just supposed to show up at the same time at the shop to get a ticket. No line was formed at anytime during the release which is what brought the madness.
Wdym it was chaos ppl pushing like crazy. Small crowds following the owner into the streets. Standing on a ledge dangling tickets in front of a mob of ppl is pretty chaotic, throwing tickets into a crowd is pretty chaotic. People copping shoes nowhere near their size and going straight to resell is not a release it’s an opportunity. Ppl threatening each other for a place in line is chaos stop the cap. If a pic says a thousand words then a video depicts a true representation of what went on.
I have a hard time with "Raptor 7s" they weren't even a team when the OG came out
facts i hate it SO much
Kick game properrrrrr !
What a great day to for a sneaker podcast and finally getting my 3’s today
And I must say I feel I got a perfect pair.
Really loved this episode !
Great job, guys !
The ones that still wear their YEEZYS, TOM SACHS etc... It's not that we're trying to make a statement. It's not that we DO or DO NOT agree with the creator's stance. Period point blank.... We spent our money, we like THE PRODUCT so we will wear what we like. It has nothing to do with whom the shoe is connected to. 🤷🏾♂️
At least me anyways
Same for me, I am disgusted by the actions but I don’t throw my sneakers cause I worked hard to buy each of my pair.
Pretty sure nike should NOT work with Tom Sachs anymore. Juice isn't worth the squeeze. Unless Ye apologizes and means it, no brands should work with him. I seem to be in the minority, but Nike should've stopped working with Travis. (And I'm a huge fan of his shoes.) There's other talent out there. These men are too problematic and in ways that are so far from ethical this shouldn't be a difficult decision.
You guys should talk about the Rukus drop that happened for the SB 4 in Baton Rouge - what a mess. it was FCFS and it was a joke. They had an "event" LOL
I don’t know what happened but I visited rukus in Louisiana and they were all good cool dudes. It’s just a shame sneakers have become this insane corny hype thing. They’re skaters and all these shops got this over the top situation put on them, and people get mad, it’s literally a skate shop not a sneaker boutique… I can’t imagine the pressure it is to deal with this kind of event/ drop
been going to Rukus since 2011 it ain't been the same since the hypebeasts found out about it
Best shoe pod out 🔥💯
Sock jig >
I never judge someone for wearing something like Yeezys and I won’t judge for wearing the Tom Sachs GPS. I personally sold my Yeezys but I also have a bunch of other sneakers I can wear, idk other peoples situations and their Yeezys might be their favorite daily sneakers. I would probably judge someone for wearing a Mars Yard lol because that person is def into sneakers and has plenty of options.
I was at the store and a store employee complemented my White cement 4s. He said "nice oreos!" 🤦♂️
My off-white varsity jacket has the authentic QR code to scan too. I think it's a significant step toward giving the consumer trust in a purchase.
Thats messed up StockX did that. 1 here and there once and a while is expected because humans make mistakes for whatever reasons. But that many even individually around the same time is bad. Cancel them.
For the price of these rare shoes then nike should make a tag to authenticate them...they bring in enough money to afford to do it.And this is something that should have allready been done years ago
B.i.n.g.o
Welty speaking facts for once about the Macs, we NEED them OG colorways 💪🏽
17:00
Real OG heads NEVER say “bred”
One of the dumbest nicknames of all time. Started as a joke on NikeTalk
that was me who commented it about Welty calling the Jordan 4 black cement instead of breds, because somebody even commented back saying Welty is a OG, so he keeps the term black cements…. Glad to see they watching the comments -MackMizzle323 I need a s/o lol
Invite StockX ceo to the show. Then diss StockX in the next two episodes 😂
🤣🤣🤣
Wow that's really 💩y
if I buy a shoe before someone goes crazy I’m wearing the shoe, I’m not buying new ones but the ones I already have getting rocked
I’m sure almost everybody got fake shoes in their collection these days they too easy to make and look identical
By choice for me they are made better imo especially kickwho his shoes are so well made and my favorite rep is a bred I got from Viberemakelab I own a pair of og 85 breds that my dad restored and vibes are so close to the original I love wearing them
I definitely call them Black Cement 4’s and not Breds (Blk/ Red)
Love see Joe, Brendan and Matt hold top tier fake Jordan Cement 3 remastered in hand and compare to Brendan’s retail pair
Welty shines so much more on the podcast it’s crazy! He literally subdues himself on FSR
The format is more fluid and he can talk whenever he wants here
there are fakes that are so good you could never know
The Special Box on the Turduckens was next level though, had one via in-store raffle and it truly is an amazing box.
Treat my Tom sachs as beaters now
Goat is the move 😮💨
Goat or flight club
Kickwho for me
@@virgilf3 just feel like flight club can be a little too taxed sometimes
@@jakelilly365 yea I agree
Crushed skate shop in DC are a great store. They do try to be fair for the people.👏🏾👏🏾💯💪🏾
U work at Lids bruh cus u all cap on this one.
@G Dot nah... don't win them all but Ws do add up. I'm good 💯💪🏾.
@@GTfromAG I hit somewhere and Atmos
But fact is gardenia raffle wasn’t even done live most ppl that do win are followoed by crush I know skaters that always get the oop from the store and they ain’t even flow skaters
MA BOY WENT TO RUTS HUT LETS GOOOOO!!!!!!!! SHOUT OUT TO CLIFTON!!!! GO TO HOT GRILL NEXT!
Stock X so shady man. They sent me some used shoes
It's your lie tell it how you want to
@@99problemstoysaint1lol
what ever happened to the ebay partnership?
Thanks for slam dunking on stockx ceo. dude is just a talking head.
He's actually a well educated man who did what they beg others like him to do, & he gets asked questions he can't answer to the point of nausea. He's even a level 4 seller as he did all that to improve where he could . How is that a talking head?
Quality dress shoes used to have a metal shank in the sole for extra support. Maybe that’s what NB did?
The only difference between Sachs and Kyrie Is that Kyrie's nike deal contract was coming to an end anyway
Matt rocking the Todd Snyder x LL Bean drip!
Psalms 84:11
For the LORD God is a sun and shield: the LORD will give grace and glory: no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly.
Care to call that huckster CEO from StockX back on and actually grill him?
Idk seems like y’all are feeling yourselves a little too much. Wilty mentions Brandon wears Tom Sacks twice and now all of a sudden Brandon thinks he needs a public announcement saying he’s not the Tom sax guy 😂 no one cares and it’s not that serious.
Anyone who watches the podcast will know that he has been wearing those Off White Jordan 5 muslin for multiple episodes. Not hating, this is 1 of my grails, but you get free shoes Bro, Represent!
Wdym that video is a clear depiction of went on at crushed. It was pure chaos for 30 minutes cops even dipped out from the front. Crushed is not legit at all same people getting the same drops there isn’t a backdoor but they should install one. Nike should not give accounts to people under 40 cus it’s a bunch of kids hooking up their friends. This is not a biased review but there is no structure. Raffle should of been called off. People who got tickets couldn’t even get their size so they just grabbed what ever. They did the lobster raffle on ig but conveniently skipped it this time around. Crushed SB drops should be yeah handled by a third party. Abdul is tryna save the shops image and so they don’t lose their account. There’s a reason why every skate shop has closed at that location. Friends of the shop get a heads up for every drop. The shop is poorly ran unfortunately really could be so much more 😢
How could you not even entertain the idea that stockx are willingly buying reps from China. You have to be pretty naive of you believe stockx and the other reseller stores are not buying in bulk from china.
Stock x sold me fake yeezy slides in June.
I returned the shoes and still trying to get refund. We are going into Sep.
do not buy from stock X
All ready got 2 pairs I'm passing on em. They probably will be crips on 5 years since I always buy new socks and usually never where my sneakers more then 5x a year so yeah I'mma let someone else get them.
"im sure you can some how fudge that" obviously you can copy nfc chips so its useless. you guys are something else
"what a nightmare" aww pore guy hoarding shoes as an investment, I really care.
Does anyone else ever see the sneakers in the thumbnail and choose which one to watch for this reason? I came for the mocha 1s and I'm still waiting to hear about them
Did anyone get the samba x kith x clarks ? Those had silent hype, but they sold out in like 3 seconds
Shannan Abloh did wear the off-white bred 4 in a magazine spread
people are getting mad over the tom sachs box quote really?
drake on sneaker shopping this monday 😮
Beatiful to see you gentlemen doing well
Brendan no more the Tom Sachs guy. Salute to Welty 🖖
Brendan is the JJJJound guy! 1:07:19
37:32 : Crazy that was my first thought. Hearing Tom is like that or condones that kind of behaviour in the workplace is not a shock
What happens if I purchase a pair of sneakers 👟 instead of “copping”? (Asking for a friend who’s tired of the term “cop”.)😂
Me and welty the same.. waitin on our reimagined to come in
More Welty, JLP, and Brendan Dunne content please
@complex
Hmmm very interesting info🤔🤔🤔🤔 nice episode though guys thanks 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
I’m happy Brendan finally talking about StockX selling fakes when Brendan was kissin Scott Cutlers behind when he was on gotta love him 😂🤣
the shoe game on this episode is veery serious
Matt Welty must get paid by stockx trying so hard to give a pass
The QR thing you can fake all of that! These expensive items are never gunna be bought by ppl wiv limited budgets so the company's aren't loosing money! 💯
Welty love a LL Bean tee
😂😂😂
I just spent some time in Vietnam and I can confirm that bootlegs of Mochas, UNC's & Hyper Royal 1's were all over the place there.
Didn't the Ambush Adjust Forces drop in multiple colorways? Fairly certain they did.
Hold up how do you buy in bulk on StockX 🤔
Haven't listened to the episode yet but this title after having Scott Cutler on the show and throwing him complete softball questions is actually hilarious in a disappointing way.
If that 110-pair story is true, then im not using any reseller site for ANY apparel, nike or otherwise. I was about to take a gamble on a Mulberry bag, not anymore.
i meant 38 pair, not 110!!
At least Nike is generous enough to not drop Tom because of his misunderstanding. Unlike kyrie, sarcastically speaking……
Love the intro song, too smooth 😂 0:05
Imo if you wear Nike shoes period your contributing to slavery and the Tom sachs issue is no different. So these people r just hypocrites.
Karma for that reseller! 🖕🖕🖕
Tom sachs is not like Kyrie Irving…lol thank you Mr Obvi.
I guess I'm never going to buy sneakers from stockX anymore!! I mean, the whole point for their existence should be to verify the sneaker to be legit if 38 pairs of 62 where fake that tells me they don't care even a little bit if they sell fake shoes true there site
StockX was a great idea and all but it’s really hard to still consider them to be a credible company … Also I’ve always said that a lot of people who you consider “real sneaker heads” are out here rocking fakes and they don’t even know it