This is the how meeting went down "We're not getting enough Americans to watch track and field. What should we do? I got it, let's go to a provider with a lower install base and charges 5 times the price. I'm so glad I got that MBA degree."
That's what modern sports was designed for in their minds, to keep the Africans entertaining, while to keep as many of the rest of us out of financial range as possible, in order only to entertain them. The white supremacist main dying goal will always be getting as much financial servitude outta the AFRICAN, world-wide as possible. This is the importance of our future behind African Independence.
I have had flow wrestling for years and surprised then show the tour of Spain, tour down under , the spring classics etc. Nothing better then running at Hayward field .
I consider myself a hard-core track fan. We live near Eugene and go to almost all the stadium events. Every year we watch every diamond league as a family. I would even consider paying up to $10 or $12 per track meet just to watch. but at $30 a month, flotrack is asking me to pay $20+ per diamond league meet just to be a fan and I don’t think we can do that. It breaks my heart because T&F brings my family together and it’s something we love doing together.
@@treymccain8164 OK the video didn’t mention that only $12.50 was an option. That seems on the high end of reasonable. Something worth considering once they prove they can cover a high level meet with good production quality
@@alexdonigian Yeah, the video definitely should have mentioned that. That being said, it is ridiculous that there is such a massive difference between month to month and annual plans. They usually have some different but not a 250% difference.
All you have to do is boycott the damned thing. The runners will balk at not having eyes on or at least their paychecks should drop with fewer views. I suggest everyone not pay. If we miss one year of immediate getting off, oh poor us. But if the streaming service dies. Good for us because someone else will pick it up for pennies. Again - do not join FloTrack service - period.
Flo track was livestreaming some marathons on TH-cam but just the first half and then they wanted you to go to their website to pay to watch the rest - I highly doubt many people did that. And I highly doubt that people will pay $30 to watch Track & Field. Luckily I live in Canada and all the Diamond League events are broadcast on one of our main TV channels CBC which is the equivalent of the British BBC
As a grappler most of the main competitions are shown on Flo Grappling. Good lord they’re horrible. The times are wrong, the scores are wrong and the camera is usually fixed so when they go out of frame you can only guess what is happening. And that’s on a good day.
In the ULTRA competitive space of streaming, that is literally the highest price I've ever heard. I understand it's kind of a "specialty" product but my goodness, fuck making track and field mainstream am i right.
@@npSharkie You're absolutely right. And so sad, because they FINALLY figured out how to televise a track meet to where there's a nice flow and transition between one event and the next. Now that the track audience is responding positively because of the improvements, they're going to kill track and field for the masses. Greed kills everything!
@@JonathanKeys-f3m With that extra money they better hire Ato Boldon, Sanya Richards-Ross and Dwight Stones for commentary. Doesn't matter though. I still ain't paying $29.99 a month 🤬
Yep that’s correct. I had heard this morning it was $5 before and it moved up to $30. I recorded the commentary soon after that. Math was a little off so appreciate your comment. Sucks either way
$29.99? absolutely not happening. I was willing to pay the $5.99 to Peacock only for the track meets but now I guess I can cancel that service after this season is over.
Nike Prefontaine diamond league meet is not part of that deal because they had the money to pay to not go on flo track. And in the long run it might pay off for Nike and the Prefontaine classic.
at least you have options. In Africa its impossible to watch the races even if you want to pay for it. Supersports coverage is problematic. we rely on VPNs
I think it's worth noting that if you pay for a year all at once then it is down to $12 a month. That being said, I don't think FloTrack offers enough for that price.
Hmmm. I wonder what this means for the American commentators broadcast? Ato Bolden, Sanya Richards-Ross, Leigh Diffy, etc? It's funny Leigh Diffy went through this when F1 left NBC.
This seems like the worse deal ever. I am not plugging Peacock but for that 5.99 you also get thousands of tv shows and movies in addition to sports. So sad.
Looked it up, the DL is an independent organization (based in Switzerland) not owned by World Athletics, but WA is a minor investor. It licenses broadcasting rights to a company called Infront, who sublicenses out the broadcast rights to individual countries/regions. NBC wasn't willing to pony up the $$$ they wanted so Flotrack stepped in and signed a contract for DL rights in the USA. Note that NBC still owns broadcast rights to the Pre Classic, the Olympics, and a bunch of other track meets here in the USA, so Flotrack does not have a stranglehold on USA broadcasting. Still crappy that its a $30/mo subscription to watch those meets. Sorry Flotrack, but I'm not going to pony up the cash.
It’s weird bc they make it so hard to watch track then get mad when ppl aren’t interested. Plus you really only have like 10 meets and 4 where ppl actually show up
I already had Peacock so TF was an added bonus. I watched all the meets they streamed. I certainly won't get FloTrack, especially after they DEI'd my podcast boys!
I got rid of my cable service in 2012 and haven't missed it. The cost was too high for what I was actually watching. Streaming services were convenient. You only want to watch a select few things. Now these new streaming services are trying to escort us back into cable like prices. I refuse. There isn't $30 worth of content on any channel or service per month.
@@ajrocks12x -- That is only true if you get them all. If you quit cable because there were too many useless channels, then there is no way you subscribe to a bunch of streaming services. You have to be savvy. Amazon Prime is free if you use Amazon anyway. I have an Instacart account and that gave me Peacock for free. I have a Spotify account and that gave me Hulu for free for a little while but I quit Spotify and Hulu. The only genuine streaming service I opted into was Netflix and Paramount Plus. Paramount Plus because there were a lot of CBS shows I liked plus you can watch football on the weekends or March Madness games. Netflix because it just has great variety. Netflix and Paramount together still come in less than this new streaming service that is getting the Diamond League.
I think the word you're looking for is - MESS! The $64,000 Question is - who got greedy - Diamond League or FloTrack? I wouldn't give NBCUniversal $5.99/mo for Peacock so I'm sure as hell not giving Flotrack $29.99/mo. The annoying thing is this is only in the US and US territories - the very place the sport needs to grow the most. The Diamond League is only select events at each meet. Are they going to sell this as a season package or on a month-to-month basis? Or do they even know? It's very telling this is only in the US markets. Price gouging Americans. Hmmm...isn't Wanda a Chinese company? Are they upset about the whole Congress trying to cancel TikTok thing or what? LOL!
Clearly, they felt they were getting too many views. I used to have a Flo membership to watch grappling events, but steaming issues were so commonplace that I decided to cancel.
What a way to kill the sport. It's already gets no coverage and now it costs 30$ a month, 360$ a year 💀 What comes with the flo track subscription. At that cost I could get a gym membership or something actually worth while. Truly sad
I am sure the advertisers will really appreciate their viewing audience diminishing before their eyes. Sadly, as much as I love track and field I am not prepared to be "ripped off" by anyone.
29.99$ per month? Wow! Peacock 5.99$ provides additional content other than track and field… so one could argue that the track and field portion of the peacock package is a bonus…or free. To go from free to 29.99$ per month is more accurate I believe to the common viewers experience. This is heart breaking 💔. Worst news for American track and field!
Trust me, as a Peacock fan and one who watches all of these races, I’m HOT! They’re making it a monopoly and also costing folks way too much for the service, especially folks who are broke right now.
Condolences. This happened to us cycling fans, too. After the closure of Global Cycling Network's streaming service, I now have to pay $150 per season for FloBikes, which has worse streams, and spoilers all over their webpage.
I wonder what CEO thought 🤔 about that big decision to lose spectators just to get a profit for themselves: My mom always told me to look at it 💵 and cents: and this decision is all about that: and nothing else!!! If you want to see it, pay for it!!! And that is the attitude and that is unfair and unfortunate: I am sorry that happened but somebody would be streaming it like that California International track and field ( Massi Russell) ... thanks for sharing that information!!!
This is absolutely devastating. I won’t be watching Diamond League meets next season. I refuse to subscribe to yet another streaming service. Hopefully the message and drop in viewership gets back to the organizers.
What about Total Running productions couldn’t you try to make a platform and stream the races. I know I probably sound unrealistic but it's sounds possible due to the fact that you already have a brand a large following .
Why doesn't TRP team up with them shoe companies and strike a deal with Netflix to start a completely new sport channel? Get backing from MJ, Bolt and so on? Don't feature just the events on that day. Setup training series and big coach interviews. Run series shows about certain universities and track dynasties and what not? I'm a creative director at an ad agency so this shiz pops in muh brain all the time. TRP has that riz now so make it happen.
I love track and field its a large part of why I actually have peacock. I also really enjoy professional wrestling so getting all WWE PLEs along with a host of documentaries and other wrestling programming is great. I'm not adding another streaming service to the laundry list of services I already have, especially one that is $30 a month. That's an absolute slap in the face price tag
Well, new sports will grow in the shadow of this and gain traction in stead. Powerlifting, Strongman, Highland games and so forth, so it's just evolution 🤔
This is the how meeting went down "We're not getting enough Americans to watch track and field. What should we do? I got it, let's go to a provider with a lower install base and charges 5 times the price. I'm so glad I got that MBA degree."
So true 😂
🤣
I know right! 🤣
there are many markets this will kill. like all of africa and south america. will runners from those areas lose local support. bank on it.
Accurate 🎯
Looks like this is going to be my last summer watching the Diamond League track meets.
Vpn
Disgusting. And this does the sport no favors in terms of getting it more exposure to a wider audience.
The sport is dead, that's why they're getting their last dukkits out of it before they can it
'Premier league in norway is 75£ a month
And the problem is?
@@ChadFarthouse-h8r, oh, you're a funny guy, huh?
I'll catch the results on TH-cam. F that!!!
Maybe, just maybe, FloTrack will attract enough advertising sponsors let us watch for free.
A dude can be optimistically hopeful 🙄👏.
@@RobertJohnson-bj5lkwhy free?
Watching sport is turning into something only the rich can do.
It’s already to be a professional you have to be rich.
Right? You see how much an average Superbowl ticket cost a few months ago?
That's what modern sports was designed for in their minds, to keep the Africans entertaining, while to keep as many of the rest of us out of financial range as possible, in order only to entertain them.
The white supremacist main dying goal will always be getting as much financial servitude outta the AFRICAN, world-wide as possible.
This is the importance of our future behind African Independence.
Exactly as I said…late stage capitalism
I have had flow wrestling for years and surprised then show the tour of Spain, tour down under , the spring classics etc.
Nothing better then running at Hayward field .
I consider myself a hard-core track fan. We live near Eugene and go to almost all the stadium events. Every year we watch every diamond league as a family. I would even consider paying up to $10 or $12 per track meet just to watch. but at $30 a month, flotrack is asking me to pay $20+ per diamond league meet just to be a fan and I don’t think we can do that. It breaks my heart because T&F brings my family together and it’s something we love doing together.
Get the annual plan. $12.50/month
@@treymccain8164 OK the video didn’t mention that only $12.50 was an option. That seems on the high end of reasonable. Something worth considering once they prove they can cover a high level meet with good production quality
@@alexdonigian Yeah, the video definitely should have mentioned that. That being said, it is ridiculous that there is such a massive difference between month to month and annual plans. They usually have some different but not a 250% difference.
You and your family should join together and pay seeing ir is it so important to you all
Whenever I hear anything with the word Flotrack in it, I vomit inside a little
Let it out
Speak on it.
Diamond League. RIP.
On Flotrack video that announced the Diamond League switch the comments are turned off. I wonder why.
All you have to do is boycott the damned thing. The runners will balk at not having eyes on or at least their paychecks should drop with fewer views. I suggest everyone not pay. If we miss one year of immediate getting off, oh poor us. But if the streaming service dies. Good for us because someone else will pick it up for pennies. Again - do not join FloTrack service - period.
They wgaf about that, they're probably cackling somewhere at the thought of boycotting, that's why bought it, because it cost them a cent to keep it
Nope, I’m out. That’s just insane.
Thankful for BBC2 in the UK…
Apparently only for the rich white Americans and Europeans, I'm assuming
@@JkDibine "I'm assuming" ... you're assuming wrong
@@_MicZ_ ....And every last minority benefiting... How that shit work.
@JkDibine only a problem for American fans 😢😢😢😂😂😂
This is why we pirate
Exactly. These people are greedy beyond words!
Yup! It’s time to dust off the ole ship.
I would never do that, never...totally never
29.99 No, Thanks. Looks like I will be hooking up with Jack Sparrow and sailing on the Black Pearl.
Flo track was livestreaming some marathons on TH-cam but just the first half and then they wanted you to go to their website to pay to watch the rest - I highly doubt many people did that. And I highly doubt that people will pay $30 to watch Track & Field. Luckily I live in Canada and all the Diamond League events are broadcast on one of our main TV channels CBC which is the equivalent of the British BBC
You have to love CBC❤
That is why I unsubscibe from them over a year now. They monopolize the sport and do it no favors.
As a grappler most of the main competitions are shown on Flo Grappling. Good lord they’re horrible. The times are wrong, the scores are wrong and the camera is usually fixed so when they go out of frame you can only guess what is happening. And that’s on a good day.
Yeah... I'll be watching Michael Johnson's track league which is "fan focused"! Thank you MJ.
More expensive than Formula One. Totally nuts.
What?!!! They have lost their freaking minds!! They should know almost no one is gonna pay that! 😡😡😡
In the ULTRA competitive space of streaming, that is literally the highest price I've ever heard. I understand it's kind of a "specialty" product but my goodness, fuck making track and field mainstream am i right.
The kkklansmen dgaf tho
6X the money per person, I bet they retain nearly 50% viewership. Even at 30%, massive net gain still. Nobody gonna talk them out of it
@@npSharkie You're absolutely right. And so sad, because they FINALLY figured out how to televise a track meet to where there's a nice flow and transition between one event and the next. Now that the track audience is responding positively because of the improvements, they're going to kill track and field for the masses. Greed kills everything!
@@JonathanKeys-f3m With that extra money they better hire Ato Boldon, Sanya Richards-Ross and Dwight Stones for commentary.
Doesn't matter though. I still ain't paying $29.99 a month 🤬
At 1:23 an increase from 5.99 to 29.99 is 5 fold not 6 fold
Yep that’s correct. I had heard this morning it was $5 before and it moved up to $30. I recorded the commentary soon after that. Math was a little off so appreciate your comment. Sucks either way
Still sucks.
@@trpexclusive4288 cbc
29.99 is a scam only way it might be worth it was if it had all the streaming services and i mean ALL of them
$29.99? absolutely not happening. I was willing to pay the $5.99 to Peacock only for the track meets but now I guess I can cancel that service after this season is over.
I literally got Peacock for Track and Field. This is insane!
From obscurity back into obscurity.
Nike Prefontaine diamond league meet is not part of that deal because they had the money to pay to not go on flo track.
And in the long run it might pay off for Nike and the Prefontaine classic.
This is the only good news I've heard about this fiasco.
Fortunately, I live close enough to see Prefontaine Classic in person every year. It's the only meet I don't need to see on TV. 😞
RIP track and field
Diamond league meets are available in some countrys on TH-cam. Use a VPN and you're good
VPN as Canada and tune into CBC. Most of these meets stream free on their site.
The biggest fumble 🤦🏽♀️
at least you have options. In Africa its impossible to watch the races even if you want to pay for it. Supersports coverage is problematic. we rely on VPNs
I think it's worth noting that if you pay for a year all at once then it is down to $12 a month. That being said, I don't think FloTrack offers enough for that price.
Hmmm. I wonder what this means for the American commentators broadcast? Ato Bolden, Sanya Richards-Ross, Leigh Diffy, etc? It's funny Leigh Diffy went through this when F1 left NBC.
I haven't seen it lately. Has Flotrack ever gotten an announcer that, uh, has anything worthwhile to say?
Flotrack more like backtrack
This seems like the worse deal ever. I am not plugging Peacock but for that 5.99 you also get thousands of tv shows and movies in addition to sports. So sad.
Looked it up, the DL is an independent organization (based in Switzerland) not owned by World Athletics, but WA is a minor investor. It licenses broadcasting rights to a company called Infront, who sublicenses out the broadcast rights to individual countries/regions. NBC wasn't willing to pony up the $$$ they wanted so Flotrack stepped in and signed a contract for DL rights in the USA. Note that NBC still owns broadcast rights to the Pre Classic, the Olympics, and a bunch of other track meets here in the USA, so Flotrack does not have a stranglehold on USA broadcasting. Still crappy that its a $30/mo subscription to watch those meets. Sorry Flotrack, but I'm not going to pony up the cash.
I signed up for Peacock just to watch track. But this time I'm not switching to a much more expensive service. -_-
Same here. Peacock was just for Diamond League, the rest is bonus. If there is no diamond league, there is no need for Peacock anymore.
I never ever pay per view. Why should I when I can watch the next day, or even later the same day, for free?
*LOGIC* is the *SCIENCE OF REASONING*
*TO REASON* is to be *FAIR AND SENSIBLE*
I know I’m not paying it. I’ll wait for the highlights to be shown on TH-cam later on they’re crazy enough is enough.
And they wonder why people look for illegal streaming services.
It’s weird bc they make it so hard to watch track then get mad when ppl aren’t interested. Plus you really only have like 10 meets and 4 where ppl actually show up
Thats ridiculous, how can they get away with that? Isn't there anything that can be done about it?
We get the meetings free in the UK. Loool to USA
😂
This sport continuously finds ways to guarantee that it will not grow in the U.S. 🤬😡🤬
Ugh that sucks, I'll wait for the videos to be posted on social media.
Actually Peacock give out deals all the time so many are paying less than $5.99 even.
Track and Field is now "Out Where The Buses Don't Run".
Bull Riding and beanie bag throwing events are on CBS( a major tv network), no track at all.
They want Africans off the air and promote n showcasing them doing random shit, while we pay a limb to watch what our people great at.
What's crazy is that in the UK the diamond league is on free to air TV. $29.99 a month is crazy
That’s crazy. I can’t afford to watch track and field now. Never thought I’d be saying that.
It sucks all around.
What were they thinking? Give me a break!
I already had Peacock so TF was an added bonus. I watched all the meets they streamed. I certainly won't get FloTrack, especially after they DEI'd my podcast boys!
major sporting events should be on National TV
So like, did FloTrack offer up a ton of money (offset by the subscription price) to get this deal or what exactly happened and who even uses FloTrack?
They are going to break all of the records this year so it won’t even matter next year.
I got rid of my cable service in 2012 and haven't missed it. The cost was too high for what I was actually watching. Streaming services were convenient. You only want to watch a select few things.
Now these new streaming services are trying to escort us back into cable like prices. I refuse. There isn't $30 worth of content on any channel or service per month.
@semi6544: Time you add all the streaming services you desire, aren't you back to cable prices?
@@ajrocks12x -- That is only true if you get them all.
If you quit cable because there were too many useless channels, then there is no way you subscribe to a bunch of streaming services.
You have to be savvy.
Amazon Prime is free if you use Amazon anyway.
I have an Instacart account and that gave me Peacock for free.
I have a Spotify account and that gave me Hulu for free for a little while but I quit Spotify and Hulu.
The only genuine streaming service I opted into was Netflix and Paramount Plus.
Paramount Plus because there were a lot of CBS shows I liked plus you can watch football on the weekends or March Madness games.
Netflix because it just has great variety.
Netflix and Paramount together still come in less than this new streaming service that is getting the Diamond League.
I think the word you're looking for is - MESS! The $64,000 Question is - who got greedy - Diamond League or FloTrack? I wouldn't give NBCUniversal $5.99/mo for Peacock so I'm sure as hell not giving Flotrack $29.99/mo. The annoying thing is this is only in the US and US territories - the very place the sport needs to grow the most. The Diamond League is only select events at each meet. Are they going to sell this as a season package or on a month-to-month basis? Or do they even know? It's very telling this is only in the US markets. Price gouging Americans. Hmmm...isn't Wanda a Chinese company? Are they upset about the whole Congress trying to cancel TikTok thing or what? LOL!
For those prices you'd expect to see the diamond league meets in movie theaters. (pop corn included)
I guess I will keep watching the reviews on TH-cam.
Clearly, they felt they were getting too many views. I used to have a Flo membership to watch grappling events, but steaming issues were so commonplace that I decided to cancel.
Ugly. I hope athletes turn down diamond league invites and show up for events that reach a wider audience
What a way to kill the sport. It's already gets no coverage and now it costs 30$ a month, 360$ a year 💀 What comes with the flo track subscription. At that cost I could get a gym membership or something actually worth while. Truly sad
Never doing it! Fuck then!
Flo Sports in general is awful. Way to kill the sports.
Just so tone death
Did someone say where the links at?
I am sure the advertisers will really appreciate their viewing audience diminishing before their eyes. Sadly, as much as I love track and field I am not prepared to be "ripped off" by anyone.
Thanks for the memories, Diamond League.
This price increase is unjustified. Count me and my family out.
29.99$ per month? Wow! Peacock 5.99$ provides additional content other than track and field… so one could argue that the track and field portion of the peacock package is a bonus…or free. To go from free to 29.99$ per month is more accurate I believe to the common viewers experience. This is heart breaking 💔. Worst news for American track and field!
Trust me, as a Peacock fan and one who watches all of these races, I’m HOT! They’re making it a monopoly and also costing folks way too much for the service, especially folks who are broke right now.
I hope Paris is on Peacock
If not I’m done with Peacock after the last Diamond League meet this year. Too bad. It’s always about greed and $$.
Up till now, here in the United Kingdom the DL has been watched free to air every season on the BBC. I expect it to stay that way 🎊❤️🥂💐🎉🤷🏽♂️
That hurts the sport. I don’t and will not pay for any kind of streaming or shows.
Condolences. This happened to us cycling fans, too. After the closure of Global Cycling Network's streaming service, I now have to pay $150 per season for FloBikes, which has worse streams, and spoilers all over their webpage.
Can we just watch after the event on TH-cam?
I wonder what CEO thought 🤔 about that big decision to lose spectators just to get a profit for themselves: My mom always told me to look at it 💵 and cents: and this decision is all about that: and nothing else!!! If you want to see it, pay for it!!! And that is the attitude and that is unfair and unfortunate: I am sorry that happened but somebody would be streaming it like that California International track and field ( Massi Russell) ... thanks for sharing that information!!!
I don't even realize there any running platforms wow
Screw flotrack. Peacock will lose me as a subscriber too. Very unfortunate news.
It should be free and let the promoters for each event pay the streaming company.
Boycott it ... pure and simple.
This will not stick just watch
There’s time to fix this diamond league. Please fix it!!!
Twitch or TH-cam should get the rights to stream track and field. Would be such a positive.
The last 48 has brought track so far back
Guess they don’t realize people don’t care about watching things live, espeically track
I wondered why my DVR stopped picking up track n field. Restricting access is absurb.
I walk away from ANYTHING that makes me a sucker if I have to pay an outrageous price.
For years I had been trying to find a path way to view track and field . Remember “Wide world of sports” . Well here we go again!
Doesn’t it come on tv though?
Flotrack sucks. Coverage, camera work, it like watching a high school meet.
This is absolutely devastating. I won’t be watching Diamond League meets next season. I refuse to subscribe to yet another streaming service. Hopefully the message and drop in viewership gets back to the organizers.
What about Total Running productions couldn’t you try to make a platform and stream the races. I know I probably sound unrealistic but it's sounds possible due to the fact that you already have a brand a large following .
Why doesn't TRP team up with them shoe companies and strike a deal with Netflix to start a completely new sport channel? Get backing from MJ, Bolt and so on? Don't feature just the events on that day. Setup training series and big coach interviews. Run series shows about certain universities and track dynasties and what not?
I'm a creative director at an ad agency so this shiz pops in muh brain all the time. TRP has that riz now so make it happen.
Great idea
Welcome to the club. FloWrestling is the same.
Can we all boycott flo track 😂
I love track and field its a large part of why I actually have peacock. I also really enjoy professional wrestling so getting all WWE PLEs along with a host of documentaries and other wrestling programming is great. I'm not adding another streaming service to the laundry list of services I already have, especially one that is $30 a month. That's an absolute slap in the face price tag
Did Martin Shkreli find a new job at Flotrack?
We watch it for free on the BBC.
Do people pay to watch track in the first place?
This isn’t cool, price is too high. But I admit, I’m going to pay because I want to support the sport
Well, new sports will grow in the shadow of this and gain traction in stead. Powerlifting, Strongman, Highland games and so forth, so it's just evolution 🤔
This is about the one zillionth high-handed bad decision that World Athletics has made in the past year or so.
Not just streaming. NBC owns Peacock so they probably won’t be putting up highlights on TH-cam like we’re used to at the moment.
So we go from NBC sports to guys who stream meet’s from phones and then charge fans 5x more? WTF(who the **ck) go the payoff!