Islam and The West | Konstantin Kisin
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- John and Konstantin discuss the conflicting ideals of Islam and Western Society.
Raised in the Soviet Union, Konstantin is not persuaded by leftist visions of utopia, and exhorts reasonable people to speak out against the 'woke mob'. He also argues that multiculturalism should be rebranded as multi-ethnic societies with a 'monoculture', uniting everyone from different backgrounds.
Konstantin Kisin is a writer, social commentator, comedian, and co-host of the free speech podcast Triggernometry. He is a regular on British and American TV and radio shows including Question Time, Good Morning Britain, BBC Breakfast, Daily Politics, LBC Cross Question, Tucker Carlson, the Megyn Kelly Show, and many others.
Konstantin has written for publications including the Daily Telegraph, the Spectator, Tablet Magazine, Quillette, and Standpoint as well as his first book, An Immigrant’s Love Letter to the West. More recently, he spoke at the inaugural Alliance for Responsible Citizenship Conference in London, England.
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Fleeing your home country and then turning your new country into the very thing you ran away from is madness.
Can you give examples or are you speaking from a high ground ?
@@mohamedali2858parallel societies in Sweden are a good example.
@@Humanaut. What are the tasks of parallel societies in Sweden & what is their open demands ⁉️
It’s invasion by stealth.
🦘🇦🇺👍
@@robertthomas3777 you mean like Iraq & Afghanistan 😂😂⁉️
As a U.S. Marine that also served when 9/11 happened and deployed after, it still gets under my skin that we ever allowed them into our countries just several years later.
It boils my blood that we're in this state today.
USMC 1999-2007
Yes
Democrats HATE America ... they are working with EU communists and China to bring down the country
@@fionagregory9147Iraq invaded vs 9/11
Which is more harmful and disastrous⁉️
Bro you literally killed Muslims. The pure hypocrisy
@@mohamedali2858 Well why did they invade? 9/11.
It's at a tipping point in the UK, and time is short.
London is 20% muslim, UK is 7% muslim.
UK is projected to have 12% muslims by 2050
@@Arkham-kq9uf And as a proportion of the young UK population, muslims will probably be at the 20-30% range, if not more. The Great replacement is a conspiracy theory tho, so it can’t be true I guess.
@@Arkham-kq9uf Highest birth rate in the world: Niger (7)
Lowest birth rate in the world: S.Korea (0.73)
Birth rate for a "stable population": 2.1
UK birth rate: 1.6
Muslim birth rate in Britain: 2.9
Source: @BBCNews 28/02/24
The Islamisation of the UK is past the "tipping point". A civil war accompanied by removal of citizenship for Muslims who do not submit to the nation state, followed by mass deportations will be needed to reverse it. But the law won't allow those measures,. so it's "goodnight Irene" for the UK. You were warned, but chose to be conquered by a force you imported that you knew has no respect for democracy or nation states and despises Christians. Arrogance has consequences. Take note Australia, you are only a decade behind the UK.
@@Arkham-kq9uf The only real study I've seen about this is the Pew Research Center study, which had three scenarios, for the UK in 2050, as follows: Zero migration - 9.7%, medium migration 16.7%, high migration - 17.2%. This was a 2017 study, and since then migration has been much higher than expected even under the "high migration" scenario, so it's reasonable to expect close to 20% Muslim by 2050. Obviously these are just projections and who knows what will happen by then.
I feel that Islamism which I call Islamic fundamentalism is anti civilization, not just anti west. Given that every religion on earth has it's fundamentalists I can't see how we can ever live in peace and mutual respect with Islam.
You can't, and they aren't intrested in living that way.
There's nothing wrong in fundamentalism as long as the fundamentals are right.
Says the person whose countries have been involved in killing millions of Muslims in 8 countries.
Why just now over last month 2 million Muslims have been made refugees and their neighborhoods reduced to rubble just because they defended their homeland.
The fact that even in Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Abu Dabi, Egypt, Morocco, Dubai and Qatar they even try to keep the radicals under control with strict laws speaks volumes
These islamists are living in medieval times. Someone tell them this is 2024 please.
That's not doable at all. Muhammad is the pattern of conduct for all Muslims, so whatever he said and did will always be relevant to Muslims at any point in time.
They don’t care.
@@lynnmichael857sad but true.
Yes I'm sure if a human tells them then they'll throw the book of God in the bin. How naive are u
@@lynnmichael857 Ever heard of Indonesia or Malaysia?
Ex-Muslim here, the guy told the truth.
Think about it. As a Muslim you believe in revealed truth. And you believe that truth was revealed through God‘s messenger. Now, everything he did and say while claiming to act out god‘s will- is binding for you. And this wouldn‘t be that problematic if that messenger wasn‘t political. But he was.
There is no approaching what‘s the best solution for any problem by weighing up arguments and arguing. Fundamentally there‘s only god‘s will.
And very important: There is no everybody‘s equal. There is those who believe and those who don‘t. Allah makes himself very clear about that.
Exactly. Unfortunately, many people only have a cursory idea of Islam and does not know what it truly requires of its believers. Many think that Islam is similar to other religions. It definitely is not. It is unique, and venomously so.
😂😂 yeah it's raining ex Muslims now a days.
99% fake. It's become an industry.
@@70newlife Did I say anything that‘s not correct?
@@TakezoShinmen413Are you surprise that instead of attacking your comment he rather attack your character? It a well know tactic! They can’t deny facts! So they go for character assassination to make you look less trustworthy!
@@70newlife and what exactly do you know about Islam so that you can correct them?
Oh right, nothing, you know absolutely nothing hence why you can't even give proper criticism other than being a typical bot or troll
In Muslim countries, they argue about power from a Muslim point of view, but it is wrong to suggest that there is any difference between what you call Islamists and Muslims in non-Muslim states, since they all are enjoined by the Quran to convert when their numbers achieve a majority. Read the book it’s there.
Can you explain how do you want ⁉️
Muslims who don't vote or reject democratic elections: "Islamists"
Muslims who politically organise and mobilise for elections: "Islamists"
Muslims who lobby for self-interest and faith-based policies: "Islamists"
Muslims show affinity with Muslims abroad:
"Islamists".
What bilge. Stop shaving the truth and lying to the kufar. As you well know your religion positively encourages.@@mohamedali2858
@@mohamedali2858no, the basic point is that Moslems want to replace a western secular democracy with an Islamic theocracy if they could.
It's just common sense.
The problem is just the fundamental rejection of a political system that is NOT based in Islam but merely RATIONALITY.
Sure - you're free to see where that leads you in Muslim majority countries, but it's always funny to me how Muslims in western countries somehow think that Islam in politics would solve anything when it clearly isn't helping to create a better world in Muslim majority countries.
Yes , There is 4 types whom 3 of are extreme and prophet talked about them. About democracy and Islam you got it upside down u have no idea. You have factor in multiple flexible concepts. Also democracy has many forms and not nesseerily rejected completely especially depending on conditions. The 4th group whom not extreme whom are the majority have some groups within with different options/opinions recommendations. So there will be silet tactical differences in details.
Democracy in Islam with a constitution based on religion of Islamic jurisprudences and philosophy of the Islamic sciences is not harm or wrong and is a valid option. A Caliphate is the Muslim version take of Noocracy, originaly. Not a dynasty or any heritage or Sultan. There is no restriction from haveing a conference or confederacy of 7 or 9 elected individuals like a Caliph would be that those guys collectively are the Caliph. There is many ways to do it.
Even if you have a Caliphate u still could have a democratically elected president and advisers as well a civilian congress. There is nothing that says no to that in Islam.
As long Islamic jurisprudences and Quran are the law and people and no one under any condition or circumstanc is allowed to go against them or go out of the Islamic jurisprudences and teachings and philosophy of God's constitution then it is fine to have and a vaild option. Only one exception that is monarchy, because God is the only King.
So if you take USA constitution and system, and take out the liberal of Liberalism concepts out (and edit it according to Islamic jurisprudences, make sure no one can change God's law and no one above the law not even the people collective will (when it comes to significant things)) it would be a valid option even if it is a republican democracy.
There is way more to it.
Just a note: non-muslims can have their own laws and independent court spreat and parallel to Muslim ones, in Islamic jurisprudences. Non-muslims are not judged by Islam as they don't believe in Islam. But there is few rules to follow when dealing with a Muslim.
For example if a Muslim asks for alcohol you not allowed to sell it or give it if u know the person is a Muslim. Infact u should report the person to police if kept talking about it arguing.
@@mohamedali2858interest and conditions - not because it is ok.
Islam is political and flexible.
# Donald Trump has said the USA will never become Socialist. Will he promise the USA will never become Islamic?
# From it's beginning Islam (submit) has shown itself to be what Edmund Burke termed an "Armed Doctrine".
# Will Donald Trump as president form an alliance of free nation-states to resist Islam?
Shias and Sunnis, the age-old divide in Islam, nothing has changed fifteen centuries on.
Fourteen centuries, learn history before commenting.
@@genovayork2468 What's the exact date mate?
@@garylake1676 632.
@@genovayork2468 Thank you, I am ever so slightly more informed now, I guess that the question is, does it make any difference to my original point?
@@garylake1676 Yes.
Watching this after the City Hall Attack Is chilling.
Good morning and thanks for sharing
So true..
Every thing you know about Muhammed is everything you know about Islam. Even the average Muslim knows virtually nothing about Muhammad. Why would you revere someone you know nothing about?
Thats what you think. Just projecting on to others your issues.
@@70newlife What are you talking about? Let’s talk about what you think “I think”. I need you to clarify and then I’ll clarify where I’m coming from with my first comment.
If you read the Holy Quran (and regardless of your faith if any that is a book, like the King James Bible, that every educated person should have read) Islam is very clearly not a tolerant faith. It is an expansionist one, by preaching if possible but very much by the sword if not. Most of the world's Muslims don't live it that way of course because they're sensible people who just want to make a life for their families like most everyone. However the difficulty the Islamic world has with controlling their fanatics is that their interpretation is not really wrong.
"Let there be no compulsion in religion"-Quran surah 2. Your statement is wrong u can not forcibly convert people.
It's not compulsory to join, but it's compulsory to stay.
Dhimmitude is compulsion. Muslims treat non believers as second class citizens. You know that of course. The Quran instructs Muslims to lie about their faith wherever they don't have the upper-hand.
If it's not ruled by compulsion then how will you explain forced conversions of non-Muslims in Muslim majority countries.
@@OkarinHououinKyouma They will say some BS like "those aren't real muslims. They're doing wrong" blah blah blah
thank you for speaking TRUTH.
What is the difference between wokism and marxism? What is the difference between marxism and islamism? What is the difference between all of the above and gnosticism?
Off to school you go.
You're simply listing things you think you dislike without the slightest concern for accuracy.
Marxism is against Islam.
The Cult of control versus everything that the cult does not control
WTH... With my glasses off, I read the headline as
I slam the West 😮😮😮
Not so much Islam versus the West but more of the age old conflict of good verses evil. So far good has always conquered, but, only if men and I mean real men stand up and be counted. Sadly in the age we live good brave men are hard to find.
What is evil then here?
Every should read “the Sword and the Scimitar” by Raymond Ibrahim.
By the word of both Mohammed and the Quran, there can be *_NO SEPARATION_*_ of Islam and state!_ Period!!
Full stop not period. English English is best.
Based!
@@ewrock7635 what does that mean?
@@fionagregory9147 "Based," in slang terms, basically means to be fearless or ballsy. Typically a compliment.
But you have no problem with this 👇
Christian Democratic Union of Germany Political party
Those who need money, skin color, religion, or so, to feel themselves better, more, higher than someone else, are little weak infantile people. Honor, respect, decency, honesty, compassion, those kinds of things, are signs of strength and greatness.
Your affecting the lives of Muslims people more and more defending
Islam versus the Rest. War until the end.
I'm a muslim, it's true
What is strange about this is that of you go outside the large British cities and towns . Say towns away from major urban centres with mid/ small populations then the people there that came from Islamic countries ( or parents/ grandparents did ) are all fairly secular and are delighted they are British. I know a group of Persian lads that run a takeaway and I know the owner well and they are all secular. Thier parents flet the Islamic revolution in 79 . We have quite a lot of Syrians and thier all the same. The ones that came as kids all have Scottish accents now, the play for the local football team, support Rangers and their entire friend groups are all native Scottish people. Some older woman wear a head scarf but all the naturalised Syrian young woman who grew up here dress the same as other Scottish girls, go to the mixed gym, drive about etc. I suppose it's probably a numbers game where people will integrate if they must because the community is overwhelming white British. If you have tens of thousands in specific area of a British town/ city then they will never integrate because they don't need to and there will be Islamists that seek to keep them from integrating.
Your examples are of non muslims. Muslims would never be proud of living in our country
All well and good with this rationale however I have question, why are does Islam countries not being more verbal and clear about they position towards radical Islamists?
It is known that apx 75% are in support, those who are not stay quiet because islam does not tolerate criticism, & any such attracts a fatwa.
(An open contract killing).
They have. Plenty of videos here in TH-cam. Specially from Emirates and Saudi. They clearly and openly say we are receiving with open arms the worst of the lot
You won't find christian groups criticising Islam.
Too close to home.
@@banta-pd8zjwhy do you want Christian groups to criticize Islam? We are mostly too busy running for our lives! Do you know how many Christians are killed yearly by radical Muslims?
Are Russia, North Korea and China Islamic ? What about India ?
Correct on all counts, KK
Watch the counter argument by Shahid Bolson
One problem with the thought that some muslims are moderate, is that when called upon, there are no moderate muslims. Because they know what islam stands for.
If islam is so good...why do we see them in non-muslim countries? Well, you know the answer to that.
"Moderate Muslim" is an oxymoron.
So what would you call non practicing Muslims?
@@kkk51310 Non Muslims. If you are not practicing the religion, you are not a practitioner of the religion.
moderate is one, who ran out of bullets
Christian is an oxymoron.
Christians killed 100 million in ww2 and 30 million in ww1
Christian whom God spoke to killed 2 million Muslims invading 9 muslim countries. Now Christians killing each other in Ukraine nearly a million killed. And even getting a few drug addict Muslims to bomb a concert to deflect from their killing.
Like a fish on a bike - it simply doesn’t match
Banging the same old nonsense drum
When a comedian is used as a think tank, I would feel realy concerned about that country.
Lets buy 🌈 flags...its so peaceful...
There is 4 types whom 3 of are extreme and prophet talked about them. About democracy and Islam you got it upside down u have no idea. You have factor in multiple flexible concepts. Also democracy has many forms and not nesseerily rejected completely especially depending on conditions. The 4th group whom not extreme whom are the majority have some groups within with different options/opinions recommendations. So there will be silet tactical differences in details.
Democracy in Islam with a constitution based on religion of Islamic jurisprudences and philosophy of the Islamic sciences is not harm or wrong and is a valid option. A Caliphate is the Muslim version take of Noocracy, originaly. Not a dynasty or any heritage or Sultan. There is no restriction from haveing a conference or confederacy of 7 or 9 elected individuals like a Caliph would be that those guys collectively are the Caliph. There is many ways to do it.
Even if you have a Caliphate u still could have a democratically elected president and advisers as well a civilian congress. There is nothing that says no to that in Islam.
As long Islamic jurisprudences and Quran are the law and people and no one under any condition or circumstanc is allowed to go against them or go out of the Islamic jurisprudences and teachings and philosophy of God's constitution then it is fine to have and a vaild option. Only one exception that is monarchy, because God is the only King.
So if you take USA constitution and system, and take out the liberal of Liberalism concepts out (and edit it according to Islamic jurisprudences, make sure no one can change God's law and no one above the law not even the people collective will (when it comes to significant things)) it would be a valid option even if it is a republican democracy.
There is way more to it.
Just a note: non-muslims can have their own laws and independent court spreat and parallel to Muslim ones, in Islamic jurisprudences. Non-muslims are not judged by Islam as they don't believe in Islam. But there is few rules to follow when dealing with a Muslim.
For example if a Muslim asks for alcohol you not allowed to sell it or give it if u know the person is a Muslim. Infact u should report the person to police if kept talking about it arguing.
They play the victim card the most and enhance to protect until making reasonable assault
One glaring thing constantin is missing: those countries that warn against islamism have already fallen ie they are islamic theocracies or islamic nation states 😅
If yiu like what you hear in this clip, yiu might to look at yourself first.
The brotherhood of Islam is not the universal brotherhood of man. It is a brotherhood of Muslims for Muslims only. There is a fraternity, but its benefit is confined to those within that corporation. For those who are outside the corporation, there is nothing but contempt and enmity. By a indian thinker : dr Br Ambedkar
Without lies Islam dies
It is nonsense to talk about ISIS, these minorities created by America, according to Noam Chomsky, and we Muslims know a lot about the conspiracies of the West. If he had left Islamic land, the danger to Israel would have increased, and for this reason there is a dictatorship over Islamic countries that the West supports and conspires against. It wants a weak Islamic state as well as preventing democracy in the Islamic state when the Arab Spring revolution begins
All I could concentrate on was that crooked lampshade.
Australia is next 😢🇭🇲🇦🇺
Good luck
The future of Australia will soon be taken over and divided amongst the Muslim immigrants, atheist Chinese and Australian aboriginals.
Nonsense, respect the law of the land....
It's all political views.
The islamist derive thier power from one thing, they know that America, Britain and France on one side and Russia, China and India on the other side have too many disputes among themselves and will not be ready to drop off thier differences to confront the threat of islam.
Konstantin you don’t speak “to”, you speak “about” 😤
There is not theocracy in islam. That is christian concept..
Do consider that the state of muslim civilization is a result of new trade routes and technological and industrial advancements, which favored the western civilizations hand. I'm not talking about who made the discovery, which is unimportant. The end result of the new knowledge gave the west this huge power it didn't have before. This alone proves islam is not an inferior ideology in itself. It merely lost. And only because of that people think of islam as an inferior ideology by way of rationalization. Not rationality. There is a difference. Two fighters fight, one loses. It doesn't mean the one who lost is a weakling. He is still stronger than most.
The delusional west....
Islam isn't even true...
2 billion people would disagree with u.
Jews created Christianity
@@zacka9438doesnt evolution disprove islam and 2 billion people ?
We invited the devil in the house
Its to late
Islam will be the police for the wef who eu
So Indonesia with the largest Muslim population in the world right now didn't cross their mind? How about Malaysia? or Turkey?
ISLAM will Eventually FALL....Under the Infinite Throne of the ONE and ONLY SAVIOR --- JESUS CHRIST
Islam will not fall no matter what we do, including killing, bombing, or spreading lies. We are patient and know God's experience in life. And see, the church has become empty, the number of Christians has diminished, and most of them have turned to atheists, so stop this nonsense
Total foolishness here. There is no Islam vs West if that was the case oil production would stop. Gas prices would big highest in history. Islamic countries would not sell one drop of oil to any Western nation.
Dont spread lies abput islam.Ppl can be of any type...but tying your all problems to islam is wrong.Islam saved humans time n again.Only powerful corrupts wrre afraid of islam.
Two unqualified muppets talking about a very complex issues.
What about a comment on the conflict between so called 'western values' and capitalism and the way 'the west' acts globally?
Or would that threaten Konstantins wallet, his place at fashionable tables, and sit a little too close to home for the young chap?
Just fearmongering. Try to understand Muslims and Islam. Someone said.... come on guys. You quoting fringe groups. Who are not even .1%
Sharia is very modern, very fair, very just and very humanistic. Stop bashing Muslims. Talk about the genocide that your governments are committing against Palestinian people.
Bs
when my father arrived in the refugee Camp of 20000 boat people, within 3 weeks, they appointed him as security chief of the refugee Camp to take on the 5T gangs. One of the unknown refugee dodge him in and let all the officials know " do you people know at his father In law funeral , a high ranking millitary and elites from HCM city attending with driver and Mercedes and Hummer. My grandfather nieces. Easter coming up, I just let the government and ADF and AFP know who we are. Australian ? we never heard of these people, No name, No power, No muscle, nobody in the world. go and Ask Vietnamese ambassador " sale of century" question, who am I after the war 1975-80. Watchout , you want us to test our missiles capable carry nuclear warhead travel 8000km and 8 times speed of sound and 8 times UFO accuracy and precision. It impossible for any US technology to block.