@@keefriff99 SAS is one of those guys who knows who he can disrespect and not disrespect. Dan may have played football but he’s not really a threatening guy if that makes sense.
Can someone in the production team muster up the guts to tell SA to tone it down with the disrespect towards Dan? He doesn’t talk to any other contributor on the show the way he talks to D.O. and it’s uncomfortable to watch.
@@JesseUrenda My thing is when SAS is losing an argument, he gets personal at D.O. with the "Mayo" insults.. Don't worry, Dan will smarten up soon and fire back.
When he talks to other former players he gives their opinions nothing but respect and says things like their opinions are way more important and valuable because there former players but he treats Dan a former starting QB like he’s a bumbling idiot when it comes to football it’s just embarrassing..
How could tell Dan he has a soft spot for Lamar Jackson when Dan has been campaigning for Josh being the MVP for the last 2 months and Stephen said the same thing about the other lady yesterday
@@CozyLoungeShortslike any analyst should. You don't say the same thing over n over unless things don't change. Do you even understand what analyst are?
@ He is the executive producer of First Take. He is the reason why Shannon and Cam both have jobs. He is over the personnel of the show. Shannon has said that before.
He’s speaking facts. Y’all like numbers. We’ve seen for YEARS, in multiple sports, numbers don’t equal greatness or winning….. Harden still has NOTHING… Lamar will finish his career with 0 rings, because he is not a championship QB
@@PaulJuniorMusicnot all. Just like not all men do. But I like this chick, wrong or right she’s backing it up with stats and not just spewing nonsense.
The difference between Lamar this year versus Lamar in past years, it’s the end of the season and Lamar looks fresh! He’s not worn down from having to carry the offensive load by himself like in years past and that should scare defenses!!!
This is a really great take & one that I hadn’t considered, I knew Derrick Henry has helped shoulder a decent chunk of the offensive burden but Lamar really does look fresh.
That’s cope bro. Lamar hasn’t showed up in the playoffs, fresh or not. Payton Manning is an all time great but he didn’t play to the level that was expected in the playoffs like he did in the regular season. I’m not saying this to discredit Payton or Lamar, I’m just stating the facts.
I guess you can't say he's racist, huh? Interesting how SAS is corny but a white guy with the same take would be "filled with hate - and we know why." The answer to this question is WE also know why.
@@jaimeperry7326MVPs don't mean you have to win a chip lol Sports are basically idicoy half the time. Mfs think these ppl work magic or voodoo. There's soooo much that goes into winning. I hate how dumb sports is nowadays
She don't need to be on first take at all. She don't know nothing. She always think she's right and never wrong, gets mad when people disagrees with her. She is another know it all person
THEY BRING OUT ALL THE NEGATIVE STATS WHEN IT COMES TO LAMAR JACKSON BUT TURN RIGHT AROUND & NEVER MENTION THE NEGATIVE STATS OF OTHER QB'S LIKE JOSH ALLEN & JOE BURROW!!!!!!
They bring up negative stats of everyone. The point is, Lamar doesn’t PLAY as good as the others… Like Cam back in his day. They’re great. But they can’t touch a real QB (Jared Goff, Mahomes, Mayfield)
@CozyLoungeShorts YOU MENTIONED BAKER MAYFIELD & JARED GOFF AS REAL QB'S,,,,BAKER MAYFIELD IS A JOURNEYMAN QB AT BEST WITH THIS YEAR BEING HIS ONLY GOOD YEAR,,,,JARED GOFF IS DECENT BUT IF HE WAS ALL THAT LA RAMS WOULDNT HAVE TRADED HIM!!!! PATRICK MAHOMES IS PATRICK MAHOMES,,,CANT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT DUDE!!! YOUR AUTOMATICALLY DISQUALIFIED FROM THIS DISCUSSION!!!!!!
@@CozyLoungeShorts A real QB? Lamar has 2 more MVPs than Goff and Mayfield and he has the 4th highest QB passer rating of all time..Lamar is only behind Mahomes
Lamar was the #1 RB and QB for the Ravens since he entered the league..except for this year.. he finally has someone he can rely and lean on to run it and run it better than him in most cases. Also they were always #1 in rushing so of course his passing stats are low in the playoffs because they run it more and he ran it more all except the AFC Champ last year.. Lamar is 6th in playoff rush per game, Henry is 3rd lol.. This year is just different, our defense was the issue and concern.. Lamar is passing the ball better than every before and Monken is locked in. Henry is going to keep our leads in the 4th quarter because he will steam roll and he averages 99 yards a game in the postseason.
I agree with Dan on this .This is most complete team that Lamar Jackson has had since he's been with Ravens that has a good chance to win a superbowl .
This narrative is getting ridiculous. Lamar hasn’t been in the playoffs for two years cause of injuries and was just in the afc championship game last year. Plus one of those playoff losses were when he was a rookie and only played 6 games in the regular season that year.
@@thatstheway2429 That game against Josh Allen was over 3 years ago and he got concussed in the 3rd quarter and never went back into the game. He lost to Mahomes in the AFC championship game just like Allen and Burrow and nobody faults them for that.
Lamar Jackson is definitely a player who exudes confidence on the field. His dynamic playing style and ability to make incredible plays make him stand out. Whether he's rushing for a touchdown or making a clutch throw, his confidence seems to inspire his teammates and fans alike.
I don't like Lamar's body language on the feild . He gets frustrated and you can clearly see it. Throwing helmets and screaming. I know people will call me a hater but it's something I've noticed for years. And yes Brady was demonstrative, but he wasn't like that until he won a couple chips. But I know it's illegal to criticize anything about Lamar
@breonmitchell2443 you know mahomes has had the literal worst division in football his whole career, until this year? You know Brady was in one of the worst divisions for all but 2 seasons that he played in the league? When tf has division strength been used in any arguement, other than the one now, for lamar.
5 wins but only one championship game make it make sense…sounds more disappointing than Lamar!!! 10 games 1 championship appearance/ 6 games 1 championship appearance !!! That’s all that matters to me
@Scantgod: It’s not more disappointing because the Bills lost 3 times to the Chiefs, who beat everyone essentially & Josh Allen usually plays really well. Josh’s most disappointing loss was to the Bengals when they came to Buffalo & outplayed Buffalo. Lamar was the no. 1 seed twice, Josh has never been the no. 1 seed. With that said I give Lamar credit for being so spectacular in the regular season that the no. 1 seed is usually Mahomes or Lamar.
This idea that Josh had bad defenses is such BS they were top 5 scoring every year except 2020 and this year. Just bc Mahomes or Burrow lights it up doesn’t mean it’s a bad defense
@@alpharob6959josh allen put up 10 points on the bengals the year before. Josh allen is a wildcard merchant. Aside from wildcard matchups, allen is 1-4 and lamar is 1-3. Lamar only played in 2 wild card games his entire career.
@@El_reecioLamar haters don't like facts. Most of those "stats" Josh has are against bottom feeders. When he plays against real comp he loses more times than he wins
Josh 10 games 1 championship appearance Lamar 6 games 1 championship appearance !!! 5 wins 1 champ appearance vs 2 wins 1 championship appearance!! Why doesn’t Josh get the same criticism if not more
@@dannice240bro can we stop ….so when they win it’s on josh but not when they lose..so Lamar gets blame but josh don’t with the losses But in the wins Josh get credit but Lamar don’t ? That’s the problem right there , I’m just saying be consistent they both have no chips and 1 championship appearance
I don't think either deserve that much criticism. Lamar Jackson has historically played a style of quarterback where it makes perfect sense that it would take some time for him to figure out how to get to a Super Bowl. His improvement as a passer is absolutely INCREDIBLE. He deserves praise, not criticism. But Josh Allen has full-stop played better in his playoff games than Lamar.
Y’all virgins need to go watch the game btn Ravens and Chiefs. People acting like the Ravens got destroyed by the chiefs on one score loss. Where defense was the main subject of the game and Ravens shot themselves on the foot with penalties both on offense and defense. Lamar needs to target Mark Andrews ans Likely more because the Steelers have shut down Barkley before and they could make Henry a pedestrian in this game as well.
Elle is the truth & stands on business. Esp when it comes to Lamar. While all the other brothers & sisters won't speak up for him & let the other man diss the brother man...SMH! He's Chicken George from the movie roots
If the Steelers take away the run, if they don’t let Lamar get outside and if they pressure him when he is in the pocket then they can win…if Wilson plays great. Way Too many ifs.
That’s narrow minded thinking, @GöstaHöstasson is right. Focus on the player, critique the player & his ability rather than his race. Just because you’re black does not mean Lamar you shouldn’t critique Lamar’s play. That will just put black people in a box & I hate being put in a box.
I appreciate how Dan always going to bat for both Lamar and Allen. Too many times both of these QBs get dragged through the mud since they both can't get past Mahomes in the post season.
I also guarantee if Lamar looked like Patrick Mahomes we wouldn’t be having these conversations. And when I say look like, I mean pictures holding Lombardi trophies.
NOBODY in the league today is Peyton Manning. Y’all better do yall research 😂 saying Josh Allen is Peyton but the bills needed to simplify the offense for joshy poo is diabolical. Peyton is the smartest QB ever. Only Brady’s IQ can probably rival Manning’s IQ.
So a guy laps the league with all time great numbers that won't happen again and you deflect and hate but sounds about white so let's forget 5000 total yards first and last who will ever throw 4100 yards run 900 yards and 41 to 4 int
They really think we're dumb. This was clearly an attempt by Orlovsky, with an assist by Smith, to pump up what Lamar has to help his argument for voting for Allen's MVP.
The playoff record narrative is ridiculous. 2019, 2020 and 2021 results with totally different rosters are irrelevant. Last year, he was 1 and 1 and lost to Mahomes in the afc championship game.
So? The whole conversation is about Ravens winning it all not just making the AFC championship again. The loss to mahomes and the way he and the Ravens played that game absolutely matters
The worst match up for the ravens is the Steelers and it’s not magically. They are built to really make it hard for them to run the ball. It’s not like we’ve never seen Lamar flop in the playoffs before, he’s done it before and I wouldn’t be surprised if he does again
You better hope so cause if not & Lamar sees Josh again he's going to do him exactly like he did Buffalo earlier this season 35-10 . Josh had no chance & won't have a chance if they meet in the playoffs
It’s trust in Lamar because he finally has another weapon on offense. Before all you had to do against the Ravens is stack the box and play man because no one else was a threat.
Stop lying bro, he has had mark Andrew’s a great TE his entire career, great running back, great defense his entire career, historic team last year. First round bye 2019, Dude just hasn’t played well against the best defenses in the league during the playoffs. They play man against him because he hasn’t proven he can throw guys open. Always excuses for dudes
6:21 that was weeks ago. We ain’t talked about DH not getting the ball enough since week 11 probably. Anytime you add a big piece to a team it’s an adjustment period.
It's not just bc of Henry - lamar has taken his game to a whole nother level as a passer this year. Now when he scrambles he looks to throw first not run. And he's made some ridiculous, mahomes-esque plays as a result
Why is there only 1 team from the AFC East Dan? Because the 1 team that has to make it from every division bullied a bunch of lesser talent this season. Just look at their strength of schedule and strength of victory. Even with facing and beating 2 teams with better records than them they're still 19th sos this season.
Real legit question, stat wise, Lamar personal development, D Henry, and team wise. If all of those things don’t make it the best chance for Lamar when will he ever get over the hump? This got nothing to do with the teams he got to go through but more so Lamar development as passer/player.
So Dan, we just forget about all Lamar's past performances in the playoffs? We don't do that with anyone else, so.... explain? He's the NFLs James Hardon until he makes it to a SB!
Because the Roman lamar and the Monken lamar are completely different players. Lamar wrecked the Texans last year. And lost to the buggy man last year.
So Dan is SAS's new punching bag now? He treats him like he used to treat Max.
That's a phucking lie.
Agreed. I can't stand it.
It’s corny and predictable. He needs a new act.
Pretty much 😴
@@keefriff99 SAS is one of those guys who knows who he can disrespect and not disrespect. Dan may have played football but he’s not really a threatening guy if that makes sense.
Can someone in the production team muster up the guts to tell SA to tone it down with the disrespect towards Dan? He doesn’t talk to any other contributor on the show the way he talks to D.O. and it’s uncomfortable to watch.
It’s part of the show lol Dan doesn’t mind it, he laughs
@@JesseUrendanah man its like everytime hes on the show he disrespects dan so much and it’s noticeable
@@JesseUrenda My thing is when SAS is losing an argument, he gets personal at D.O. with the "Mayo" insults.. Don't worry, Dan will smarten up soon and fire back.
When he talks to other former players he gives their opinions nothing but respect and says things like their opinions are way more important and valuable because there former players but he treats Dan a former starting QB like he’s a bumbling idiot when it comes to football it’s just embarrassing..
It’s not disrespectful… It’s Dan always going back on stuff he said in the past…
How could tell Dan he has a soft spot for Lamar Jackson when Dan has been campaigning for Josh being the MVP for the last 2 months and Stephen said the same thing about the other lady yesterday
Dan is lowkey picking everyone but Mahomes apparently, he thought Burrow was to win MVP and could make the SB had they made the playoff.
You picking mahomeboy🤷🏾♂️@@tigera6
Dan been more pro lamar than most he just thinks Josh or Joe been mvp
Exactly. Dan always changes his stances
@@CozyLoungeShortslike any analyst should. You don't say the same thing over n over unless things don't change. Do you even understand what analyst are?
Bruh Stephen A has RELIGIOUSLY hated on LJ this entire season it’s crazy lol
This season????? He's been hating on him his whole career LOL
@ that’s true lol
I guess you can't say he's racist, huh? 😂
@@courtney1708 He hated him at Louisville. Probably mad he negotiated his own extension.
You know if Lamar won the SB you know the first person to be coming after "TERRIFIER THE CLOWN" 🤡..🤣🤣🤣
Shoutout Elle for standing on business and the ravens are a scary team since that defense started humming
They 1st round exit 😂
@@dutchmason22🤡
@@dutchmason22they not losing to the Steelers. I know for a fact that you don’t know football
They absolutely can lose to the steelers. Just like Green Bay can absolutely beat the Vikings. @@goofy_xf6223
@@goofy_xf6223flowers out stack box double andrew’s
SAS is utterly ridiculous.
He changes takes like underpants😂
How?
@@Siuuuuy7 re-watch the film
The shows have became ridiculous. I don't even watch it any more. SAS turn that show into the circus 🤡
What did you disagree with?
You can tell Stephen A Smith gets punked around by his bosses by the way he talks to his co-workers. 😂
And he’s probably still uptight because he hasn’t got his new contract lol
Stephen A is their boss.
@@ladarriusjennings8914 He doesnt run ESPN, he has bosses. Read the comment again
@ He is the executive producer of First Take. He is the reason why Shannon and Cam both have jobs. He is over the personnel of the show. Shannon has said that before.
@@ladarriusjennings8914the network still owns him dummy
Stephen A should shut his mouth about the Ravens when HIS Steelers haven't won a playoff game since 2016. Get outta here.
His knicks haven't been out the second round since 1999😂
@@ShawnReed-ny1hdAnd his hairline hasn't been right since 1985🤣💀
Yall LJ fanboys are really something 😭😂
@@ShawnReed-ny1hdA big reason I stopped being a Knick fan. That and crapping on Patrick Ewing on his way out.
Ravens should also shut their mouth about the Steelers because the last time the Ravens did anything was in 2013. 12 years ago.
Can we ban SAS from talking about football ?
🤔
🤣🤣🤣
He’s speaking facts. Y’all like numbers. We’ve seen for YEARS, in multiple sports, numbers don’t equal greatness or winning….. Harden still has NOTHING… Lamar will finish his career with 0 rings, because he is not a championship QB
@@CozyLoungeShortsthat's your opinion on Lamar Jackson he will win a ring .
@@CozyLoungeShorts Better hope this doesn't age like milk, the Ravens are hot.
Put Elle on the show more!
Amen!!!!
Not at all
@@BrutusJrThe3rdWomen know sports. Get over it. 👍🏽
@@PaulJuniorMusicnot all. Just like not all men do. But I like this chick, wrong or right she’s backing it up with stats and not just spewing nonsense.
She is awful
The difference between Lamar this year versus Lamar in past years, it’s the end of the season and Lamar looks fresh! He’s not worn down from having to carry the offensive load by himself like in years past and that should scare defenses!!!
And he has Derrick Henry this time.
Sweet Take
This is a really great take & one that I hadn’t considered, I knew Derrick Henry has helped shoulder a decent chunk of the offensive burden but Lamar really does look fresh.
He is fresher than Allen, thats for sure... 💜🖤💜
That’s cope bro. Lamar hasn’t showed up in the playoffs, fresh or not.
Payton Manning is an all time great but he didn’t play to the level that was expected in the playoffs like he did in the regular season.
I’m not saying this to discredit Payton or Lamar, I’m just stating the facts.
I'm convinced he gets paid to hate on Lamar. It's getting corny at this point
I guess you can't say he's racist, huh? Interesting how SAS is corny but a white guy with the same take would be "filled with hate - and we know why." The answer to this question is WE also know why.
SAS doesn't care about who he talks about all he cares about is his viewers.🤡
Yeah but the White guys kill Lamar too.
He hates most black quarterbacks or athletes in general
@@EricKearneyMusic😂😂😂🎯🎯🎯🎯
Hearing Nick and Stephen Talk about Lamar everyday is starting to sound like Skip bayless talking about Lebron all the time back in the day
SAS so dramatic 😂
This is crazy how they talk about Lamar but act like Allen won a superbowl but it's always Lamar
Allen hasn't won an MVP
@jaimeperry7326 true
@@jaimeperry7326MVPs don't mean you have to win a chip lol Sports are basically idicoy half the time. Mfs think these ppl work magic or voodoo. There's soooo much that goes into winning. I hate how dumb sports is nowadays
SAS doesn't care about who he talks about all he cares about is his viewers.🤡
They obsessed with Lamar, these 🤡’s still mad that they was wrong about him
Baltimore needs to play like ravens in the playoffs, not crows.
Lmao bro!!! Yes you’re right!!! 😂
It’s like the Ravens are the only team that plays every week
lol they act like Lamar the only person on the team
sas has been hating on lamar all season to put josh allen on a pedestal
He's been hating on Lamar his entire career, even coming out of college
I guess you can't say he's racist, huh? Why not the harsh words for him like you would a different hue? We also know why.
@@Galero15Even in high school.
He can’t stand to see successful black athletes
@@tigerhoods7927 Stephen A is black and you're saying he can't stand to see them be successful. 🤡
That lady needs to be on first take full time, finally woman who knows what they’re talking about and can hold their own
She don’t know what she’s talking about.
@@luddman77incel alert.
She don't need to be on first take at all. She don't know nothing. She always think she's right and never wrong, gets mad when people disagrees with her. She is another know it all person
Lol…..women
SAS took an L in this one
Nahh
THEY BRING OUT ALL THE NEGATIVE STATS WHEN IT COMES TO LAMAR JACKSON BUT TURN RIGHT AROUND & NEVER MENTION THE NEGATIVE STATS OF OTHER QB'S LIKE JOSH ALLEN & JOE BURROW!!!!!!
😅they do. You just got selective hearing.
They bring up negative stats of everyone. The point is, Lamar doesn’t PLAY as good as the others… Like Cam back in his day. They’re great. But they can’t touch a real QB (Jared Goff, Mahomes, Mayfield)
@CozyLoungeShorts
NO THEY DONT,,,I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT SHOW YOUR WATCHING!!!!
@CozyLoungeShorts
YOU MENTIONED BAKER MAYFIELD & JARED GOFF AS REAL QB'S,,,,BAKER MAYFIELD IS A JOURNEYMAN QB AT BEST WITH THIS YEAR BEING HIS ONLY GOOD YEAR,,,,JARED GOFF IS DECENT BUT IF HE WAS ALL THAT LA RAMS WOULDNT HAVE TRADED HIM!!!!
PATRICK MAHOMES IS PATRICK MAHOMES,,,CANT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT DUDE!!!
YOUR AUTOMATICALLY DISQUALIFIED FROM THIS DISCUSSION!!!!!!
@@CozyLoungeShorts A real QB? Lamar has 2 more MVPs than Goff and Mayfield and he has the 4th highest QB passer rating of all time..Lamar is only behind Mahomes
Elle knows she's beautiful
Lamar was the #1 RB and QB for the Ravens since he entered the league..except for this year.. he finally has someone he can rely and lean on to run it and run it better than him in most cases. Also they were always #1 in rushing so of course his passing stats are low in the playoffs because they run it more and he ran it more all except the AFC Champ last year.. Lamar is 6th in playoff rush per game, Henry is 3rd lol.. This year is just different, our defense was the issue and concern.. Lamar is passing the ball better than every before and Monken is locked in. Henry is going to keep our leads in the 4th quarter because he will steam roll and he averages 99 yards a game in the postseason.
Stephen A turned into a Lamar hater for ESPN smh
He been hating black athletes for years
Mahomes is the only quarterback you can have utter confidence in
Exactly
Actually it Brady, no one else is even close
@@kcjarembekhate to break to ya, but Brady is retired
Facts
I agree with Dan on this .This is most complete team that Lamar Jackson has had since he's been with Ravens that has a good chance to win a superbowl .
Tomlin has a winning record against Lamar, cannot be overlooked, but we can't ignore the Steelers not winning a playoff game in about 9 years
This narrative is getting ridiculous. Lamar hasn’t been in the playoffs for two years cause of injuries and was just in the afc championship game last year. Plus one of those playoff losses were when he was a rookie and only played 6 games in the regular season that year.
Exactly
Yep. It’s completely imagined that he’s laid an egg against both Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes.
They don’t wanna keep it real
No you’re ridiculous. You don’t know football fool. Lamar and the Ravens will not make it to the superbowl
@@thatstheway2429 That game against Josh Allen was over 3 years ago and he got concussed in the 3rd quarter and never went back into the game. He lost to Mahomes in the AFC championship game just like Allen and Burrow and nobody faults them for that.
Lamar Jackson is definitely a player who exudes confidence on the field. His dynamic playing style and ability to make incredible plays make him stand out. Whether he's rushing for a touchdown or making a clutch throw, his confidence seems to inspire his teammates and fans alike.
I don't like Lamar's body language on the feild . He gets frustrated and you can clearly see it. Throwing helmets and screaming. I know people will call me a hater but it's something I've noticed for years. And yes Brady was demonstrative, but he wasn't like that until he won a couple chips. But I know it's illegal to criticize anything about Lamar
@@soda8736That just shows a sign he don't like to lose
@drb5003 no one likes to loose, I just like my qb to be a little more even kill in big games.
I wonder if Derrick Henry had went to Buffalo, would they hold that against Josh like they do Lamar in regard to the MVP 🤔
Yea they would. They would hold it against Josh if cook would have done more. He had multiple games with less than 25 yards rushing. What about Henry?
Duh. Its fkn derrick henry. Dude single handely got all the wide receivers opened due to the sheer pressure he gives off if they dont defend the run
nope...
SAS speak on Lamar go stats Josh Allen never say 2-3 vs winning teams 😂weakest schedule in nfl talking Josh Allen mvp on qb sneak
@breonmitchell2443 you know mahomes has had the literal worst division in football his whole career, until this year? You know Brady was in one of the worst divisions for all but 2 seasons that he played in the league? When tf has division strength been used in any arguement, other than the one now, for lamar.
Why would Stephen A. bring up Josh Allen when he hasn't won anything either. Josh may have more playoff wins but the same amount of chips.
5 wins but only one championship game make it make sense…sounds more disappointing than Lamar!!! 10 games 1 championship appearance/ 6 games 1 championship appearance !!! That’s all that matters to me
That's only because Josh lives in the wildcard munching on weaker playoff teams with backup qbs at times
@@ShawnReed-ny1hdbro thank you!
@Scantgod: It’s not more disappointing because the Bills lost 3 times to the Chiefs, who beat everyone essentially & Josh Allen usually plays really well. Josh’s most disappointing loss was to the Bengals when they came to Buffalo & outplayed Buffalo. Lamar was the no. 1 seed twice, Josh has never been the no. 1 seed. With that said I give Lamar credit for being so spectacular in the regular season that the no. 1 seed is usually Mahomes or Lamar.
lol you would think Josh or Joe burrow has won something the way they talk about them 😂
13:20 SAS face 😂😂😂
SAS is such a casual when it comes to ball😭😭. Stick to basketball bro..
He’s a casual there too
He’s a causal in all sports
This idea that Josh had bad defenses is such BS they were top 5 scoring every year except 2020 and this year. Just bc Mahomes or Burrow lights it up doesn’t mean it’s a bad defense
Elle is cooking on this Bo Nix segment
Cooking crack. Smoking meth
Funny how Dan says all this about Lamar ...yet he's gonna vote for Allen for MVP 😂
🤣🤣🤣😂😂
He's on the official Bills media payroll. Ofc he is.
@@watchmesquatchcry harder
Dan is just trying to cover his A** because he already knows who he's voting for. Allen 😂
I like how they don't have the same energy for Josh Allen. When he hasn't won anything too.
Won more playoff games than lachoke jackson
I tell u this if allen defense would've gave up 0 points in the 2nd half vs kc the bills win
@@alpharob6959josh allen put up 10 points on the bengals the year before. Josh allen is a wildcard merchant. Aside from wildcard matchups, allen is 1-4 and lamar is 1-3. Lamar only played in 2 wild card games his entire career.
@@El_reecioLamar haters don't like facts. Most of those "stats" Josh has are against bottom feeders. When he plays against real comp he loses more times than he wins
@El_reecio 1 -4 in what
Josh 10 games 1 championship appearance Lamar 6 games 1 championship appearance !!! 5 wins 1 champ appearance vs 2 wins 1 championship appearance!!
Why doesn’t Josh get the same criticism if not more
Because the losses weren’t on Josh. Can’t say that about Lamar
@@dannice240bro can we stop ….so when they win it’s on josh but not when they lose..so Lamar gets blame but josh don’t with the losses But in the wins Josh get credit but Lamar don’t ? That’s the problem right there , I’m just saying be consistent they both have no chips and 1 championship appearance
@@Scantgodwatch the games
I don't think either deserve that much criticism. Lamar Jackson has historically played a style of quarterback where it makes perfect sense that it would take some time for him to figure out how to get to a Super Bowl. His improvement as a passer is absolutely INCREDIBLE. He deserves praise, not criticism. But Josh Allen has full-stop played better in his playoff games than Lamar.
@@dannice240facts the league rigged it againts the bills with that 11 seconds BS
She knows her stuff.
Feed the King and you'll be fine
Exactly
Y’all virgins need to go watch the game btn Ravens and Chiefs. People acting like the Ravens got destroyed by the chiefs on one score loss. Where defense was the main subject of the game and Ravens shot themselves on the foot with penalties both on offense and defense. Lamar needs to target Mark Andrews ans Likely more because the Steelers have shut down Barkley before and they could make Henry a pedestrian in this game as well.
It's all about action Jackson!
Thank you espn for Elle 😢she the only person that gets it😂
Elle is the truth & stands on business. Esp when it comes to Lamar. While all the other brothers & sisters won't speak up for him & let the other man diss the brother man...SMH! He's Chicken George from the movie roots
LAMAR HAS ONE MORE TURNOVER THAN JOSH. And all of Lamar’s int’s weren’t his fault. Why are they acting like Lamar has like 30 turnovers. Smh
If the Steelers take away the run, if they don’t let Lamar get outside and if they pressure him when he is in the pocket then they can win…if Wilson plays great. Way Too many ifs.
How are you black and you hate on LAMAR JACKSON
Same reason many white people say Josh is overrated. They focus on the player not the race.
He a Steelers fan
That’s narrow minded thinking, @GöstaHöstasson is right. Focus on the player, critique the player & his ability rather than his race. Just because you’re black does not mean Lamar you shouldn’t critique Lamar’s play. That will just put black people in a box & I hate being put in a box.
If white people had this level of tribalism y'all would be in trouble
If SAS had his way LAMAR will lose, cus then he'd have to admit he's been wrong. FOREVER!!
It doesn't matter who is RB when the OC doesn't give him the ball when it counts.
This was a really good segment from all parties involved.
I loved the Dan O and Elle back and forth.
Dan Called her out about the broncos jacket in the green room.
Her: that’s my dad’s…
That makes it better?! 11:57
No one cares if a perpetual choker threw less INTs. He's still a perpetual choker. 😊
I appreciate how Dan always going to bat for both Lamar and Allen. Too many times both of these QBs get dragged through the mud since they both can't get past Mahomes in the post season.
Everyday a Lamar topic but he ain the MVP?? 🤣
Everyday is a cowboy topic and they ain't going win mvp either 😂
This was the best debate on First Take in a while luv Elle
I guarantee if Lamar looked like Josh Allen we wouldn’t even be having these discussions.
Yeah if his playoff stats matched Allen’s we wouldn’t? I’m confused
I also guarantee if Lamar looked like Patrick Mahomes we wouldn’t be having these conversations.
And when I say look like, I mean pictures holding Lombardi trophies.
@@thatstheway2429🙌🏻👑🐐
Nope 😂
@@tylerlearn7232he’s playing the race card. Which is ridiculous. Lamar gets outstanding praise, which he deserves
His hatred of Lamar sickens me...
Y'all going down the toilet like FS1
Sas is a clown !!! Why do he hate Lamar so much is it because he’s his own man and does things his way
"i was gonna rain down upon you" LMFAOOOO. Best line line from Stephen ever
Josh Allen is Peyton manning and Lamar Jackson is Michael Vick
But Has Better Passing Stats Then Josh Allen? Make It Make Sense!
Wrong. Lamar Jackson is the modern Payton Manning. Josh Allen is not in the “Multiple MVP Club” like those other 2.
@@shadow33103exactly what is this dude talking about
Lamar is Payton Manning
Josh is Philip Rivers
NOBODY in the league today is Peyton Manning. Y’all better do yall research 😂 saying Josh Allen is Peyton but the bills needed to simplify the offense for joshy poo is diabolical. Peyton is the smartest QB ever. Only Brady’s IQ can probably rival Manning’s IQ.
7:36 Did Steven A say, "they throwing water and sh*t"?😂😂😂
Close... very close 🤭
@PML78 LMFAO
YES 😂
So a guy laps the league with all time great numbers that won't happen again and you deflect and hate but sounds about white so let's forget 5000 total yards first and last who will ever throw 4100 yards run 900 yards and 41 to 4 int
Agree with SAS. See it to believe it. Do think this year will be different but we'll see.
Joy Taylor was also getting slammed.
“Crickets” 🦗
Molly got slammed too
@@masonr5677 Nah, I got some upvotes.
@phothewin6019: Joke got old so quick & this one is not remotely funny
@@marckusduverger9776 Doesn't make it any less true. Heels up! Ladies like Elle do it right, on your own merits. Joy... not so much.
They really think we're dumb. This was clearly an attempt by Orlovsky, with an assist by Smith, to pump up what Lamar has to help his argument for voting for Allen's MVP.
You really are dumb
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The playoff record narrative is ridiculous. 2019, 2020 and 2021 results with totally different rosters are irrelevant. Last year, he was 1 and 1 and lost to Mahomes in the afc championship game.
So? The whole conversation is about Ravens winning it all not just making the AFC championship again. The loss to mahomes and the way he and the Ravens played that game absolutely matters
Past playoff appearances do matter, he beat a rookie QB last year...
@@sudoCompetencethey don't matter if they are years ago.
Judge this lamar from monken forward.
Elle you was on point Love. You make the show better every time wit yo beauty n knowledge of all the topics!!!!
Thank you Stephen A for speaking the truth!
Finally a Good debate on First Take!
SA is a certified hater. . . They lost on a controversial toe outta bounds
It wasn’t controversial
What did Dan do to Stephen A? Did he eat the last donut at the breakfast table? 😂
Steelers continue Lamar's playoff, FAILURE 😡🏈💯
Ravens win by two touchdowns
Elle made SAS look like an absolute fool on this segment. SAS made himself look like a fool in general on this clip.
Steven A what you said is utterly ridiculous! The only time I like listening to your opinion is on serious matters.
17:22 Bo Nix has beaten 1 playoff team this season lmaooooo
Yep and that Chiefs team was resting its key players! 😂
The worst match up for the ravens is the Steelers and it’s not magically. They are built to really make it hard for them to run the ball. It’s not like we’ve never seen Lamar flop in the playoffs before, he’s done it before and I wouldn’t be surprised if he does again
You hope so 😂
What did Derrick Henry do last time against the squeelers?
You better hope so cause if not & Lamar sees Josh again he's going to do him exactly like he did Buffalo earlier this season 35-10 . Josh had no chance & won't have a chance if they meet in the playoffs
13:29 SAS LOOKING LIKE AH PLEEEEASE😂
Everyone says they trust in Lamar because of Derrick Henry. So... That's not trust in Lamar at all. It's trust in Henry
It’s trust in Lamar because he finally has another weapon on offense. Before all you had to do against the Ravens is stack the box and play man because no one else was a threat.
He doesn’t have to do everything is the point.
You’re trying so hard to make it negative about Lamar yet failing.
Hmmm, Who is this everybody? This mysterious group of people that you put your faith in?
Stop lying bro, he has had mark Andrew’s a great TE his entire career, great running back, great defense his entire career, historic team last year. First round bye 2019, Dude just hasn’t played well against the best defenses in the league during the playoffs. They play man against him because he hasn’t proven he can throw guys open. Always excuses for dudes
I like the debate energy today 👏🏾💯
Sas is correct. Until Lamar wins one we're going to all have questions. The bottom line is in the playoffs he just hasn't performed.
🤣😂😂😂
Stephen A, Dan has 12 years of experience in the league, and his insights deserve consideration rather than being dismissed as ridiculous.
Lamar’s 2-4 playoff record with 9 total TD’s and 6 interceptions in those games is the reason people are not confident. Lol.
And your guy wasn't in the AFC in a couple years and the other was just there...
Hey Elle!! 😍‼️ I absolutely love when she’s on the show!!
6:21 that was weeks ago. We ain’t talked about DH not getting the ball enough since week 11 probably. Anytime you add a big piece to a team it’s an adjustment period.
Dan that statement was not ridiculous in the slightest. Stephen A is treating Dan like he treated Max smh
THANK YOU THE OC COST THAT GAME LAST YEAR IN THE PLAYOFFS
King Henry gonna get it done for Lamar this year!!
It’s insane the way SAS talks to professional athletes.
Stephen A is going to talk himself out of a job. His attitude is hard to watch.
It's not just bc of Henry - lamar has taken his game to a whole nother level as a passer this year. Now when he scrambles he looks to throw first not run. And he's made some ridiculous, mahomes-esque plays as a result
Steve can’t handle being wrong, a bad look and just simply a bully:( he’s gonna be irrelevant soon! Watch:)
Why is there only 1 team from the AFC East Dan? Because the 1 team that has to make it from every division bullied a bunch of lesser talent this season. Just look at their strength of schedule and strength of victory. Even with facing and beating 2 teams with better records than them they're still 19th sos this season.
13:22 Clocked new SAS Meme 😂
Thanks Steve we need that motivation #FLOCKGANG
Flowers injury is gonna be huge. They're severely over looking that
I’m glad people are in agreement that the ravens are the best overall team. No excuses at all not to get it done this year.
Detroit is
@ detroits defense is not as good as the Ravens stop it. Maybe if they were destroyed by injuries
@joepzenz nah bud. Detroit's defense is better. Just come to accept it already. They literally playing their backups and 3rd strings for weeks now
Real legit question, stat wise, Lamar personal development, D Henry, and team wise. If all of those things don’t make it the best chance for Lamar when will he ever get over the hump? This got nothing to do with the teams he got to go through but more so Lamar development as passer/player.
Its the best run game in football and has been for 5 years. The eagles do have the best rb though but they even didnt out rush the ravens.
stop gassing Henry like Chiefs didnt clamp him every time we played in the playoffs.. literally held him to 46 yards this season!
I've seen enough of Lamar Jackson in the post-season to know that the Ravens will lose.
Far as ik josh allen always end up at home as well in the postseason 🤔🤔 so why dont he get the same treatment
This show ponders to women is so ridiculous it’s embarrassing.
I think Ravens might be better than in the past, but bcuz of Henry. That will allow Lamar to not be as nervous knowing he can just hand it to Henry.
So Dan, we just forget about all Lamar's past performances in the playoffs? We don't do that with anyone else, so.... explain? He's the NFLs James Hardon until he makes it to a SB!
Because the Roman lamar and the Monken lamar are completely different players.
Lamar wrecked the Texans last year.
And lost to the buggy man last year.
@renaldobuckjr5994 lamar had one good half as he struggled against texans in first half
And he wrecked them in the second half. @@matthewwilliams4168