They could have waited few thousand years more and let the Brits and American MNCs complete the temple or maybe the Vatican can take over it. Do civilization last for 800 years
Very interesting! Thanks for making these. I really enjoy these videos about the more mundane things. Battles and wars are cool, but this more technical video on construction is very much appreciated.
You overlooked the wonderful lifting wedge-blocks used at the Parthenon in the Athens Acropolis. They also used poured-metal (bronze, I think) joints in I-shaped precuts in the stone members to lock the structure together.
The Greek and Roman achievements (leaving aside the massive building achievements of the Egyptians and Babylonians) go a long way to showing how the ancient people of Malta, and the prehistoric people of Europe, could build huge temples of stone or henges of stone... And all of this was done thousands of years after the stones of Gobleke Tepe were raised... Amazing, what people can do when they are motivated to be creative! Thanks for the light you've thrown on the subject. Keep doing what you're doing! (Oh, and I had no idea there was a full-scale reproduction of the Parthenon in Nashville! Well, bless my soul, ain't that something?)...
This was important for me, ancient history isn’t my main interest or strong suit, but your video on romes bad neighborhoods was really interesting to me, and I’m glad you have real explanations for these truly breathtaking buildings.
Wild to see that treadwheel crane. They were still being used a thousand years later to build Medieval castles. The 14th century artisans very well could have gotten the idea from old Roman sculptures and frescoes.
Roman cyclopean engineering calls a mention of their main material - concrete, *opus caementicium*. That gave them some huge advantage in mass construction. Many of the colossal structures in Rome and in its vicinity were formed and poured, with stone, brick or plaster cladding applied on the exterior. That's a simplification of the construction process, but that's the gist of it. It's not just Pantheon (and not just Pantheon's dome!) - from the colossal hill temple of Palestrina from the time of a Republic, to the Imperial baths and apartment blocks - concrete was everywhere in Rome. Also, regarding the columns - Romans loved to use hollow core columns, sometime the stone being as thin as 1-2", covering brick core of the column. Plaster cover was equally popular and even cheaper.
I didn't talk about Roman concrete in this video (partly because the video I'm working on now deals with the topic) but it was - as you say - a wonderfully versatile and resilient material.
Actually hardly anything I. The ancient world is geopolymer maybe puma punku but Greeks and romans used real quarried limestone and marble also don’t get me started on the lathed pillars in India and south East Asia. It’s not aliens we just had tools then we forgot about. It’s already stated that the most powerful Roman crane could only lift 15 tons so please explain everything else that’s heavier and stacked please
@@manbearpig710 The history of engineering is a study of its own which alien worshippers know nothing about. The big money is in saying "We don't know how they did it ... they couldn't have done it ... it must have been aliens!"
The question really comes down to what was cast, and what was carved. I'd like some vids to be made about this. GWOC used rice in the mortar, Romans used others. Masonry is the key to the universe.
So basicly the romans build houses as modern day americans, From the front it looks somewhat as a decent stone structure that would last for half a decade,but inreality its plastered cardboard and tubed chickenfence with some white garbage bags around it so it makes a marble impression from a distance.
And thinking at the time it's nothing special these are every where. Same as we do today with our buildings. Though I doubt ours will still be here for 100s or 1000s of years.
Baalbek like most other acient megalithic cities or monuments around the world was built by giants. I know it sounds farfetched but it's the truth my guy! The Romans & Greeks like many other cultures/empires etc all merely inhabited these sites, long after the original inhabitants had vanished!
@@oxarplatt they thought their gods were that tall, if you were making a house for a god wouldn’t you want him to be able to fit through? Pretty insulting to the Romans
Never really looked at the Pantheon columns that closely and never wondered how it was done. Seriously impressive, as romans didn’t have the strength potion made by Panoramix
@@rickrandom6734 of course, they're orignally french. panoramix works but getafix is more fun. what about the other characters in french? the english names were all pretty funny.
Balbeck is the one I'd like to know the construction information on. Thank you, as so many times in the past, for another short and sweet presentation. Pat
Alien giants. Human people couldn't do it. They hadn't even invented powdered cheese yet (crunch crunch crunch) so there's no.... dammit. Pardon me but I need to clean up these orange fingerprints on EVERYTHING IN MY HOUSE.
It really is such a fascinating aspect of both Greek and Egyptian civilization that the further you go back in their history the more amazing their construction efforts are.
What's amazing is they managed to build despite not yet developing the decimal system and the use of zero. By 1083, a new system of math (zero is used) brought to Spain by the Arabs, is being studied. The numerical system was developed in India but adopted and spread by the Arabs through their trade links.
Yes I'm always amazed how the Greeks in particular achieved so much in the field of maths,geometry and related subjects and yet they,with the Romans,had (to my mind)such a cumbersome number system.I'm particularly impressed by the antikythera mechanism discovered on the sea floor off the southern Greece coast that scientists believe is a type of analogue computer capable of doing sophisticated calculations.Concerning buildings the structures I admire most however are the medieval Gothic cathedrals -the heights of the unsupported naves are amazing and the stained glass -by comparison all previous architecture was just post and lintel stuff or piling rock upon rock whereas spanning such an immense interior space as in a Gothic cathedral takes incredible engineering finesse so that the structure doesn't collapse!
@@kaloarepo288 Gothic architecture develops throughout Europe as new construction knowledge sourced from Spanish libraries spreads (see 1085). The Notre Dame and Chartres cathedrals are examples of significant works of Gothic architecture. (See 1135, 1163 and 1194) Flying buttresses that support high walls are a major characteristic along with the use of pointy arches. The Gothic style allows a unified and more clearly defined European culture.
@@kaloarepo288 u do realize that there was the roman ( which is actually babylonian) arch right and the point arch which the goths used was made in the 7th century by arabs right? Which makes it an islamic engineering marvel not a European one
@@RPRIMICI no gothic arches are based on islamic architecture not spanish ure probably mizing it up woth horse shoes arch which originated in preislamic syria but entered Europe through spain
I'm pretty late on this, but every time I see major ruins like that where they all fell apart in one large event like an earthquake, I wonder what the chances are that some poor bystander was crushed to death underneath some of those huge chunks of stone, and if their remains might still be there. Any thoughts on this, toldinstone?
To the best of my knowledge, no human remains were discovered beneath the shattered columns. The earthquakes that destroyed the temples at Selinus seem to have occurred in the Middle Ages, when the site was mostly uninhabited.
Excellent video and presentation, many men of that time must have been very strong indeed, even with the help of pulleys for these enormous columns and weights
@@MrJgohde Clearly, building on sand is a bad idea. But I also don't think they built on top of rocks surfacing. Sure, when it happens, it is the best foundation there is. But then you can not build where you want, but where there is rock. And yes. You are right. The Romans already had cement, so they had it easier.
Imagine working in a quarry all your life, digging out incredible hunks of stone and shaping them to make an insane temple and you literally never see the fruit of your labor.
If I was in charge I would have that temple rebuilt and then recover the cost using tourism. Using modern technology I think each stone could be photographed into a 3D image, using the 3D image, each piece is a puzzle piece. Using software that can fit shapes together and AI, and several engineers, to solve for the fit back analysis. Special software would compute a potential solution each would get approved and continue until a completed model. Each existing stone would have a unique identifier, for missing pieces they would be ordered to correct sizing and materials. Even if this took 5;years the potential financial benefits would be huge.
@@edh2246 exactly which is something a computer program can do. For example in modern warehouse solutions the semi trailer trucks are packed with boxes, software tells the packer to put the boxes inside in LIFO order (last in is first out) the software will also use the box dimensions HxWxL to tell the packer to stack the boxes for maximum efficiency it knows the interior dimensions of the trail , it color coded the boxes for easier identification so let’s imagine that zero-10ft are the yellow boxes set, then blue, then red at the back consuming the entire trailer space. Now imagine the same thing for 3D shapes, most advanced design model new parts in 3D using cad/cam companies like CAT have engineers design parts with cad/cam software. You can then visualize and print the new specification. That said, an algorithm could fit 3D parts together to insure fit. All that now put together for archaeologists , they take a special camera photo the object, it is assigned a unique serial number, and added to a database of objects and later people add meta data about the object example it is from the facade or right wall or base foundation etc. because you must have all sides it may need to get lifted for photo. Once you have at least 2 the algorithm can start, add items as long as you have more, the algorithm can operate for as long as it takes.
thinks could brake/damage while deconstructing and constructing + it will loose authenticity. Just like ambu simbel in egypt. (although that was relocated aswell) I would let the visitors decide if they want to donate,leave the structure as it is, it proved itself to be pretty solid for a couple of decades,and drink some beer from the money from the donations.
i'd start with a thorough sorting and cataloguing of all the pieces. then put the puzzle back together. it wouldn't be complete, and wouldn't look new which is ok. either way, better than a pile of rubble slowly succumbing to entropy.
Very glad to hear it! I've dealt with ancient construction a few other times, most notably in my video on the Pantheon (which talks about Roman concrete). For a short bibliography, check out the video page on toldinstone.com. And feel free, of course, to ask follow-up questions here!
It would have been interesting to dive a little deeper into exactly how the cranes were constructed. lifting anything to a height of 150ft is a real accomplishment, even today.
Great video, but it would be even better with international units. Some TH-camrs with an audience outside US put metric measurements in written text. I had to google cubic yards = 0,768 m3
I'm a heavy equipment operator I still have difficulty understanding how we build modern marvels let alone how you do the simple steps of getting a many ton block of marble up hill and then moved into place for the crane. Then having the crane's direction and stability mananaged and hoping what your standing up holds under gravity .... as you have no hydraulic machinery to hold it up like an unstable pallet of stock in a warehouse
@@daos3300 when you're hoisting it up 50 feet is where the instability comes into play. Simply standing up the columns is simple enough. Putting the roof on is another thing
One can only wonder whether using Roman Concrete actually made a difference in 100' tall buildings, or whether it was ONLY a matter of luck that some Roman Concrete construction survived through the ages.
I guess it's not quite the same, but there's some "build a castle with historic technology" projects that use threadwheel cranes. Guédelon Castle comes to mind. Okay, the crane isn't any sort of 50meters, but they might even let you give it a try ;)
the workings of a tv set are a mystery to many, fortunately for these people many educated people fully understand the physics and engineering behind them.
Thanks for your videos. You will find that the Roman buildings were sometimes built on existing more ancient stone platforms and the stone blocks forming these platforms have projecting ‘knobs’, often a bit random in form. This was industrial building work remaining from a much earlier time when an entirely different technology was known and used. Sometimes these stones were massive indeed.
he's talking crap...notice how there are no details of the earlier culture or technology mentioned. Probably got the idea second hand from a Hollywood film or a comic strip pulp. ''Knobs'' is about right. We know for a fact that earlier Greek and Roman building were made of wood, and the 'wooden features' are still present as archaic emblems incorporated into the later stone buildings such as temples as part of the continuity of heritage, same as seen in neolithic erections like stone henge, the knobs and shallow recesses of the trilithons they fit into mimic joinery. There's no mystery technology or 'unknown culture' unless you read dollar store garbage.
As you already may know I am fascinated by your video's, but would it be possible to also mention the metric system units, whenever you mention the inches, feet, etc. ? So I won't be converting it all the time in my head in stead of listening to yoù ? I live in Amsterdam, so that might explain a thing or two. ;-) Cheers.
I still think there was something "magical" about how all these gorgeous buildings were built. There are other buildings around the world that were large (think India), but the Greek and Roman buildings were inspiring, not just large.
I always thought they built a foundation of stones, piled up 60 feet of dirt, dug shafts, dropped the columns in the shafts, stacked the roof on top, then dug away the dirt.
Here in the Netherlands we have "hunnebedden"basicly a collection of big heavy druid stones placed in a somewhat "ship" structure. two stones as "pillars"and then a third as roof. How they did it is an enigma as well, however when i was 11 orso i had the same idea for the construction as you have! You must be a genius too! nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunebed
I've been there when cycling around Italy, see my picture...what a place and not a soul about, except the odd lizard. Isn't the bronze door on the Hagia Sophia from a Greek temple ? I see you've been to Segesta too.
Segesta and Selinus are two of my favorite sites. As you can tell from the video, Selinus was as deserted during my visit as it was during yours. As I mention briefly in my "Historical Tour of Hagia Sophia" video, the emperor Theophilos imported the so-called "Beautiful Doors" of the vestibule from a Greek temple in Tarsus.
@@toldinstone I think the Hagia Sophia is the most magical ancient building that still lives, plenty of others are magnificent ghosts of their former selves but the Hagia Sophia still feels awesome as you enter and walk around, almost like it's still alive. Marvelllous, one feels like an early traveller or Heroditus regaling in the splendour of an ancient wonder.
How big were these pullies, ropes and cranes that were used to haul and place the giant megalithic stones making up the Trilithon, or the base on which the temple of Jupiter was built? These are estimated to weigh 800 to 1000 tons each!
Some were very big. The treadwheel crane pictured on the Tomb of the Haterii must have been at least 50 feet tall, and multiple cranes were often used in tandem for the especially big blocks. Truly monstrous ones, like those at Baalbek, were rolled into place on earthen ramps.
4:40 Why did the Romans build their columns monolithically? Wouldn’t it have been easier and cheaper to make it out of smaller blocks like the Greeks did?
They used monolithic columns - often made of granite from the Egyptian desert - more or less for the simple reason that they could - it was a way of making an already impressive building even more impressive.
What kind of rope was used on these pulley systems to lift 100-ton blocks did they have sophisticated braided steel like we used today for heavy objects or was it just you know some common rope people through together
“Stone, at the risk of blowing your mind, is heavy” best part hahaha
He Ain't Heavy, He's My Boulder...
I read your comment word for word exactly while he said it 😮 lol
800 years to build that temple?? I cannot even begin to imagine how insane that is
I suspect there was some financial heel dragging involved in that one.
There’s some medieval cathedrals that are still under construction today.
They could have waited few thousand years more and let the Brits and American MNCs complete the temple or maybe the Vatican can take over it. Do civilization last for 800 years
The great pyramid was built in just 20 years.
Man, they would have been building that temple for so long by the end they would have become christians xD
I just happen to stumble on this channel and i cannot get enough of it. I love Roman history and keep up the awesome work!!👍👍👍
Glad to hear it!
Babe, I thought you were dead.
Very interesting! Thanks for making these. I really enjoy these videos about the more mundane things. Battles and wars are cool, but this more technical video on construction is very much appreciated.
Glad you enjoyed it!
You overlooked the wonderful lifting wedge-blocks used at the Parthenon in the Athens Acropolis. They also used poured-metal (bronze, I think) joints in I-shaped precuts in the stone members to lock the structure together.
I thought the poured-in-place keys were made from lead.
Lead is a very soft metal, bronze is more strong but way more expensive. Cool summary btw.
lead was used to cover the bronze joints to resist corrosion
That's a cool method
Yes
The Greek and Roman achievements (leaving aside the massive building achievements of the Egyptians and Babylonians) go a long way to showing how the ancient people of Malta, and the prehistoric people of Europe, could build huge temples of stone or henges of stone... And all of this was done thousands of years after the stones of Gobleke Tepe were raised... Amazing, what people can do when they are motivated to be creative! Thanks for the light you've thrown on the subject. Keep doing what you're doing! (Oh, and I had no idea there was a full-scale reproduction of the Parthenon in Nashville! Well, bless my soul, ain't that something?)...
My pleasure - and yes, the Nashville Parthenon really is something. The first time I saw it, I did a double take.
I love how you didn't instantly invoke aliens.
A few commenters clearly expected me to...
They cant handle that People have always had the same amount of Intelligence, the Evolutionists cant handle that truth
But who knows if the demultiplied pulleys were not invented but brought by the aliens?
He obviously didn't consult
Graeme Hancock ? The " expert '
in this field ...
@@2msvalkyrie529 I've read & heard Hancock's presentations on megalithic buildings & he specifically has stated that the 'alien' hypotheses are bs.
This was important for me, ancient history isn’t my main interest or strong suit, but your video on romes bad neighborhoods was really interesting to me, and I’m glad you have real explanations for these truly breathtaking buildings.
loved the pic of the Roman crane sculpture - such engineers!
They were very impressive
Wild to see that treadwheel crane. They were still being used a thousand years later to build Medieval castles. The 14th century artisans very well could have gotten the idea from old Roman sculptures and frescoes.
Roman cyclopean engineering calls a mention of their main material - concrete, *opus caementicium*. That gave them some huge advantage in mass construction. Many of the colossal structures in Rome and in its vicinity were formed and poured, with stone, brick or plaster cladding applied on the exterior. That's a simplification of the construction process, but that's the gist of it. It's not just Pantheon (and not just Pantheon's dome!) - from the colossal hill temple of Palestrina from the time of a Republic, to the Imperial baths and apartment blocks - concrete was everywhere in Rome.
Also, regarding the columns - Romans loved to use hollow core columns, sometime the stone being as thin as 1-2", covering brick core of the column. Plaster cover was equally popular and even cheaper.
I didn't talk about Roman concrete in this video (partly because the video I'm working on now deals with the topic) but it was - as you say - a wonderfully versatile and resilient material.
Actually hardly anything I. The ancient world is geopolymer maybe puma punku but Greeks and romans used real quarried limestone and marble also don’t get me started on the lathed pillars in India and south East Asia. It’s not aliens we just had tools then we forgot about. It’s already stated that the most powerful Roman crane could only lift 15 tons so please explain everything else that’s heavier and stacked please
@@manbearpig710 The history of engineering is a study of its own which alien worshippers know nothing about. The big money is in saying "We don't know how they did it ... they couldn't have done it ... it must have been aliens!"
The question really comes down to what was cast, and what was carved. I'd like some vids to be made about this. GWOC used rice in the mortar, Romans used others. Masonry is the key to the universe.
So basicly the romans build houses as modern day americans,
From the front it looks somewhat as a decent stone structure that would last for half a decade,but inreality its plastered cardboard and tubed chickenfence with some white garbage bags around it so it makes a marble impression from a distance.
"Italian's are stoopit strong." - Joe Rogan
All jokes aside, your channel has reinvigorated my fascination with Roman architecture and engineering.
Imagine seeing these monuments in there prime.
Where prime?
@@user-jt6xh2ln9z there! Right there☝️ no there👉 too late. It's gone.
And thinking at the time it's nothing special these are every where. Same as we do today with our buildings. Though I doubt ours will still be here for 100s or 1000s of years.
I'd love to see the equipment they used at Baalbek
@@richardkocksworthy8423 100%
Baalbek like most other acient megalithic cities or monuments around the world was built by giants. I know it sounds farfetched but it's the truth my guy! The Romans & Greeks like many other cultures/empires etc all merely inhabited these sites, long after the original inhabitants had vanished!
@@jasonmorth1173 I'm with you 100% Look at all the giant doors. That was the first thing that got me questioning. This fucking rabbithole goes deep!
@@jasonmorth1173 😂😂😂
@@oxarplatt they thought their gods were that tall, if you were making a house for a god wouldn’t you want him to be able to fit through? Pretty insulting to the Romans
Your content is some of the best I've seen. The world needs these videos!
800 years then quake omg that would suck
I imagine the workers arriving at the temple, seeing all the columns on the ground, and then just slowly walking back home.
800 years nonsense! j666
@@toldinstone hopefully on a monday so they didnt work the whole week for nothing.
You should totally do a video on the largest temples from antiquity. I Cannot fathom the size of Baalbek's temple.
Never really looked at the Pantheon columns that closely and never wondered how it was done. Seriously impressive, as romans didn’t have the strength potion made by Panoramix
real name 'getafix the druid'
@@daos3300 Originally Panoramix le druide.
@@rickrandom6734 of course, they're orignally french. panoramix works but getafix is more fun. what about the other characters in french? the english names were all pretty funny.
800 years of determination & dedication speaks volumes
@@dustinbirkez8321 have to consider this was well before the invention of insurmountable national debt
Insightful commentary and relatable content. Thanks
I love your dry comments while giving such succinct information about the ancient world! I find myself laughing at unexpected moments!
Great video. Plenty of information I did not know and very nice presentation. Thank you.
You're very welcome
Balbeck is the one I'd like to know the construction information on. Thank you, as so many times in the past, for another short and sweet presentation. Pat
Alien giants. Human people couldn't do it. They hadn't even invented powdered cheese yet (crunch crunch crunch) so there's no.... dammit. Pardon me but I need to clean up these orange fingerprints on EVERYTHING IN MY HOUSE.
Mate theses videos are superb.
Glad you enjoy them!
Thank-you for the videos. Great channel, becoming 1 of my favorites.
What is amazing about these splendid structures is they were all built by hand.
Rome's genius was in taking existing ideas, and expanding and refining them.
Under construction for 800 years??!! Must have been a union job.
The Romans were really bad at organising people and resources 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Imagine building something for 800 years and God just says no. lol
@@jacob7300 He got tired waiting
Just a cool video at the right time. Feeling happy.
Another great snippet. Thank you!
It really is such a fascinating aspect of both Greek and Egyptian civilization that the further you go back in their history the more amazing their construction efforts are.
Brilliant work mate
Thanks for the video. Learned a few things as usual.
What's amazing is they managed to build despite not yet developing the decimal system and the use of zero.
By 1083, a new system of math (zero is used) brought to Spain by the Arabs, is being studied. The numerical system was developed in India but adopted and spread by the Arabs through their trade links.
Yes I'm always amazed how the Greeks in particular achieved so much in the field of maths,geometry and related subjects and yet they,with the Romans,had (to my mind)such a cumbersome number system.I'm particularly impressed by the antikythera mechanism discovered on the sea floor off the southern Greece coast that scientists believe is a type of analogue computer capable of doing sophisticated calculations.Concerning buildings the structures I admire most however are the medieval Gothic cathedrals -the heights of the unsupported naves are amazing and the stained glass -by comparison all previous architecture was just post and lintel stuff or piling rock upon rock whereas spanning such an immense interior space as in a Gothic cathedral takes incredible engineering finesse so that the structure doesn't collapse!
@@kaloarepo288 Gothic architecture develops throughout Europe as new construction knowledge sourced from Spanish libraries spreads (see 1085). The Notre Dame and Chartres cathedrals are examples of significant works of Gothic architecture. (See 1135, 1163 and 1194) Flying buttresses that support high walls are a major characteristic along with the use of pointy arches. The Gothic style allows a unified and more clearly defined European culture.
But don't forget zero was first used by akkadians
@@kaloarepo288 u do realize that there was the roman ( which is actually babylonian) arch right and the point arch which the goths used was made in the 7th century by arabs right? Which makes it an islamic engineering marvel not a European one
@@RPRIMICI no gothic arches are based on islamic architecture not spanish ure probably mizing it up woth horse shoes arch which originated in preislamic syria but entered Europe through spain
I wish you would have explained the process in more detail rather than describing the stones and temples.
I'm pretty late on this, but every time I see major ruins like that where they all fell apart in one large event like an earthquake, I wonder what the chances are that some poor bystander was crushed to death underneath some of those huge chunks of stone, and if their remains might still be there. Any thoughts on this, toldinstone?
To the best of my knowledge, no human remains were discovered beneath the shattered columns. The earthquakes that destroyed the temples at Selinus seem to have occurred in the Middle Ages, when the site was mostly uninhabited.
Excellent video and presentation, many men of that time must have been very strong indeed, even with the help of pulleys for these enormous columns and weights
Very infomative video, thank you :)
Best youtube channel ever!
Thanks for clear informative narration. A lot good video’s are spoilt by no or computer generated commentaries.
2:46 "stone, at the risk of blowing your mind..."
don't worry doctor, i can take it
"...is heavy"
I couldn't take it! *faints*
XD
I've always wondered how did they made the foundation for such incredible buildings. But sadly I've yet to find anyone that gives a good explanation.
They built upon solid rock as sand would never last very long. Romans could also have laid down cement.
@@MrJgohde Clearly, building on sand is a bad idea. But I also don't think they built on top of rocks surfacing. Sure, when it happens, it is the best foundation there is. But then you can not build where you want, but where there is rock.
And yes. You are right. The Romans already had cement, so they had it easier.
A lot of the time the foundation wasn't great. There's a reason so many of these buildings collapse, instead of turn to dust.
It sounds like along with the tools you mentioned a hefty portion of patience was required in building those huge temples. 😀
Imagine working in a quarry all your life, digging out incredible hunks of stone and shaping them to make an insane temple and you literally never see the fruit of your labor.
You will always be the civil side of historia civilis to me ❤
I would love to see one day some one build these building machines in full scale and see if they actually worked as you described.
I love all the experts in the comments of these
I wonder if there are bones under these ruins of people who were in them at the time of the earthquake.
Thanks as always.. best nugget.
would have been incredible to see if an aeoliphile type drive mechanism could work with a crane of that size
If I was in charge I would have that temple rebuilt and then recover the cost using tourism. Using modern technology I think each stone could be photographed into a 3D image, using the 3D image, each piece is a puzzle piece. Using software that can fit shapes together and AI, and several engineers, to solve for the fit back analysis. Special software would compute a potential solution each would get approved and continue until a completed model. Each existing stone would have a unique identifier, for missing pieces they would be ordered to correct sizing and materials. Even if this took 5;years the potential financial benefits would be huge.
If nothing else, it would be nice if the site invested in the sort of augmented reality glasses you now see in Rome and elsewhere.
Digital images of each stone could be assembled like a 3D jigsaw puzzle.
@@edh2246 exactly which is something a computer program can do. For example in modern warehouse solutions the semi trailer trucks are packed with boxes, software tells the packer to put the boxes inside in LIFO order (last in is first out) the software will also use the box dimensions HxWxL to tell the packer to stack the boxes for maximum efficiency it knows the interior dimensions of the trail , it color coded the boxes for easier identification so let’s imagine that zero-10ft are the yellow boxes set, then blue, then red at the back consuming the entire trailer space. Now imagine the same thing for 3D shapes, most advanced design model new parts in 3D using cad/cam companies like CAT have engineers design parts with cad/cam software. You can then visualize and print the new specification. That said, an algorithm could fit 3D parts together to insure fit. All that now put together for archaeologists , they take a special camera photo the object, it is assigned a unique serial number, and added to a database of objects and later people add meta data about the object example it is from the facade or right wall or base foundation etc. because you must have all sides it may need to get lifted for photo. Once you have at least 2 the algorithm can start, add items as long as you have more, the algorithm can operate for as long as it takes.
thinks could brake/damage while deconstructing and constructing + it will loose authenticity. Just like ambu simbel in egypt. (although that was relocated aswell)
I would let the visitors decide if they want to donate,leave the structure as it is, it proved itself to be pretty solid for a couple of decades,and drink some beer from the money from the donations.
i'd start with a thorough sorting and cataloguing of all the pieces. then put the puzzle back together. it wouldn't be complete, and wouldn't look new which is ok. either way, better than a pile of rubble slowly succumbing to entropy.
They used a technical grip called the reverse reach around. Once U master this grip U can move mountains.
Informative. Thanks.
You're very welcome
This was great! I'd like even more in depth information
Very glad to hear it! I've dealt with ancient construction a few other times, most notably in my video on the Pantheon (which talks about Roman concrete). For a short bibliography, check out the video page on toldinstone.com. And feel free, of course, to ask follow-up questions here!
@@toldinstone I will check out those videos too! Thank you!
It would have been interesting to dive a little deeper into exactly how the cranes were constructed. lifting anything to a height of 150ft is a real accomplishment, even today.
great video!
Thanks for eschewing "lost technology for levitating stones" LOL.
My pleasure (though I have to admit it would have made the video more exciting...)
Question: how did some of the massive stones at Balbeck and other sites get moved if they were in a single block?
Great video, but it would be even better with international units. Some TH-camrs with an audience outside US put metric measurements in written text. I had to google cubic yards = 0,768 m3
I still don't believe hiw they carry such heavy stines without bigger machines. I love everything about ancient history still a mystery. Thanks .
When I lived in Naples, Italy I would have picnics at a temple south of Naples called Paestum
I've only been to Paestum once, but I was awestruck by my visit
I did two big shits yesterday.
In Paestum are 3 temples and interior of all is inaccessible.
Extremely informative and fun. Thank you.
You're very welcome!
i gave this video its 6000th thumbs up! btw, this video was uploaded on my 34th birthday.
I already knew about the weight of stone as I once picked one up and immediately remarked out loud: "Dear me, such heaviness".
So fascinating!!
when you give volume in cubic yard you definitely chose to persist in your heresy and nothing can change it 😅
I want to build a city like this
I would love to see someone try. I wonder if modern humans could build ancient tech?
@@oxarplatt
Why wouldn’t we be able to?
Ah, Roman and Greek architecture! Magnificent.
your chanel is simply amazing, thank you
You're very welcome
I'm a heavy equipment operator I still have difficulty understanding how we build modern marvels let alone how you do the simple steps of getting a many ton block of marble up hill and then moved into place for the crane. Then having the crane's direction and stability mananaged and hoping what your standing up holds under gravity .... as you have no hydraulic machinery to hold it up like an unstable pallet of stock in a warehouse
if your pallet weighed 50 tons it would stand up just fine.
@@daos3300 when you're hoisting it up 50 feet is where the instability comes into play. Simply standing up the columns is simple enough. Putting the roof on is another thing
One can only wonder whether using Roman Concrete actually made a difference in 100' tall buildings, or whether it was ONLY a matter of luck that some Roman Concrete construction survived through the ages.
The cranes are really cool
I would have loved to see one of those big treadwheel cranes in action
@@toldinstone me too! It would be so cool to see the man power used to pick up thousand pound blocks. Great video thanks!
@@concretecat My pleasure!
I guess it's not quite the same, but there's some "build a castle with historic technology" projects that use threadwheel cranes. Guédelon Castle comes to mind. Okay, the crane isn't any sort of 50meters, but they might even let you give it a try ;)
To me, these exquisite buildings are still mind bending, and still a mystery.
the workings of a tv set are a mystery to many, fortunately for these people many educated people fully understand the physics and engineering behind them.
Thanks for your videos. You will find that the Roman buildings were sometimes built on existing more ancient stone platforms and the stone blocks forming these platforms have projecting ‘knobs’, often a bit random in form. This was industrial building work remaining from a much earlier time when an entirely different technology was known and used. Sometimes these stones were massive indeed.
Right, so who built Egypt's Pyramids? Same pre-roman culture?
he's talking crap...notice how there are no details of the earlier culture or technology mentioned. Probably got the idea second hand from a Hollywood film or a comic strip pulp. ''Knobs'' is about right. We know for a fact that earlier Greek and Roman building were made of wood, and the 'wooden features' are still present as archaic emblems incorporated into the later stone buildings such as temples as part of the continuity of heritage, same as seen in neolithic erections like stone henge, the knobs and shallow recesses of the trilithons they fit into mimic joinery. There's no mystery technology or 'unknown culture' unless you read dollar store garbage.
@@Random_IDK209 the Egyptians.. tf?
As you already may know I am fascinated by your video's, but would it be possible to also mention the metric system units, whenever you mention the inches, feet, etc. ? So I won't be converting it all the time in my head in stead of listening to yoù ? I live in Amsterdam, so that might explain a thing or two. ;-) Cheers.
My apologies for the inconvenience! All my more recent videos use metric units alongside their imperial counterparts.
@@toldinstone I really appreciate you responding so quickly to the comments! Not everyone does. So thanks for that.
@@43painter It's the least I can do for people who take the time to watch my videos.
I still think there was something "magical" about how all these gorgeous buildings were built. There are other buildings around the world that were large (think India), but the Greek and Roman buildings were inspiring, not just large.
Can you include metric measurements in your videos?
The shape is same as in the older wooden temples with logs as columns and wooden roof like in a log cabin.
I always thought they built a foundation of stones, piled up 60 feet of dirt, dug shafts, dropped the columns in the shafts, stacked the roof on top, then dug away the dirt.
Here in the Netherlands we have "hunnebedden"basicly a collection of big heavy druid stones placed in a somewhat "ship" structure. two stones as "pillars"and then a third as roof. How they did it is an enigma as well, however when i was 11 orso i had the same idea for the construction as you have! You must be a genius too!
nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunebed
I love your content! would be great if you also showed IS units besides imperial.
Thank you! In my most recent videos, I give metric units alongside their imperial equivalents.
It was relatively simple, putting a stone aside or over the previous, then repeating the maneuver until getting finished.
If you use both metric and imperial, it would be better. For example, 50 feet or 15.2 meters. Like in Mark Felton videos...
I've been there when cycling around Italy, see my picture...what a place and not a soul about, except the odd lizard. Isn't the bronze door on the Hagia Sophia from a Greek temple ? I see you've been to Segesta too.
Segesta and Selinus are two of my favorite sites. As you can tell from the video, Selinus was as deserted during my visit as it was during yours.
As I mention briefly in my "Historical Tour of Hagia Sophia" video, the emperor Theophilos imported the so-called "Beautiful Doors" of the vestibule from a Greek temple in Tarsus.
@@toldinstone I think the Hagia Sophia is the most magical ancient building that still lives, plenty of others are magnificent ghosts of their former selves but the Hagia Sophia still feels awesome as you enter and walk around, almost like it's still alive. Marvelllous, one feels like an early traveller or Heroditus regaling in the splendour of an ancient wonder.
@@kc3718 I know the feeling. Hagia Sophia's only rival in that regard is the Pantheon, or perhaps Santa Sabina in Rome.
Really love these videos!!
Glad to hear it!
How big were these pullies, ropes and cranes that were used to haul and place the giant megalithic stones making up the Trilithon, or the base on which the temple of Jupiter was built? These are estimated to weigh 800 to 1000 tons each!
Some were very big. The treadwheel crane pictured on the Tomb of the Haterii must have been at least 50 feet tall, and multiple cranes were often used in tandem for the especially big blocks. Truly monstrous ones, like those at Baalbek, were rolled into place on earthen ramps.
How the Egyptians could build their megalithic structures two and a half millennia earlier than the Greeks and Romans really is mind blowing.
The great pyramid was built in just 20 years. Thus, the Egyptians were smarter than the Greeks, in many different ways.
Would've appreciated some graphics or illustrations of the cranes and sleds in action!! More detail is required to flesh out your narrative.
There’s literally the image of an engraving at 04:58
Very Good!..
short answer: cranes and pulleys
Time for a trip to Nashville to see the Pantheon!
Super!
Doc, you sound like Beige Frequency, or he sounds like you.
Has anyone ever considered putting the Selinus temple back together? Looks like a lot of the pieces are still there.
4:40 Why did the Romans build their columns monolithically? Wouldn’t it have been easier and cheaper to make it out of smaller blocks like the Greeks did?
They used monolithic columns - often made of granite from the Egyptian desert - more or less for the simple reason that they could - it was a way of making an already impressive building even more impressive.
@@toldinstone thank you!
Wish this was in 1440p or at least 1080p :(
Thanks!
My pleasure!
What kind of rope was used on these pulley systems to lift 100-ton blocks did they have sophisticated braided steel like we used today for heavy objects or was it just you know some common rope people through together
Nice 👍 video
Thank you
An interesting video on a compelling topic but the sound is way too low.
Very carefully