Back to the Future / Eric Stoltz Footage (Lost Media)
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Back to the Future is probably the most celebrated comedy and sci-fi franchise in film history, Making actors like Christopher Lloyd, and Michael J Fox star overnight, it's hard to envision anybody else in the role, but with the character of Marty, it nearly happened, in an alternate cut of Back to the Future, we nearly didn't have Michael J Fox.
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0:51 Bob Gale had the idea for a movie that was released in 1985 during the summer of 86?
Craig Kostelecky Oopsy's 🤣 oh well I'll get a next time!
@@ScribblestoScreen Maybe the reason he wrote about time travel is he actually did it.
No credibility after that.
Haha. That's what I thought. Is this dude high?
I was thinking the same thing! Especially since 1985 is so prominent in BTTF, it's when it was based, it's when it was released, it's the entire goal of the movie.
It must have been absolutely crushing for Eric Stolz to have been fired from this film and then have to watch it become one of the biggest franchises of all time. I don’t know how you’d recover from that.
It was devastating for him. Zemeckis said that having to tell Stoltz and fire him was the hardest thing he ever did, and that he literally broke Stoltz' heart. Another awful thing was that when they already had made the decision to fire him and Fox would replace him, Fox could not begin filming for about another week, so they continued filming the movie another week without letting Stoltz know he wasfired yet. Can u imagine that. It was these several days of filming that some of the crew started to know Stoltz was likely done, because many scenes involving Stoltz and another actor, they would only shoot the angle of the other actor. But, one good thing is that Stoltz did get his full pay for the entire movie, which is only right.
@@TamTranTriZzle And Eric's career has done well, since the same year the film Mask came out to critical acclaim and he's done a lot since.
@@TamTranTriZzle he did an interview where he said it sucked but he was ultimately relieved. He didn’t like the direction the film was headed at the time.
@@sayvanessa yes. He also said he accepted the job cause his agent said it would be a good move.
@@TamTranTriZzle He gives multiple interviews where he states it didn't ruin him, he was pleased with the end results, and relieved when he was released, so I'm not sure where you got your information from?
In an interview with Thomas F. Wilson, the actor who plays Biff, he mentioned that nearly the entire film was shot with Eric Stoltz. I would definitely like to see an Eric Stolz version one day.
Me too. I wish Eric would talk about this movie.
@@rhymeandreasoning Eric told the L.A. Times in 1994: "Zemeckis told me I was giving a good performance in a film he didn’t want to make - contemplative and thoughtful instead of comedic. I felt I could have done the part had he pointed me in that direction."
From the small footage with Eric shown here, we see that Fox was a lot more in the comedy stance than him. Stolz would have been better if the movie had been made as a serious movie (it could, there are a lot of things in this movie that looks like drama) but anyway Fox is the best for this kind of comedies.
4K release, 35 years later, still waiting Bob 😄
@@marielizysurourcq The original script was darker, still funny but with an edge and with more drama (Biff was a serious villain).
Eric Stoltz is a great actor, and I am sure his version of Marty would've been good if the movie were a little darker.
In the end, though, it's hard to imagine BTTF without Michael J. Fox. He's one of those actors who knows how to act with his whole body.
Eric Stoltz is still alive. It's funny none of these clips provide any feedback from him, and his experience on the show being fired. I'm sure he's got something to say! I'm wondering if he was paid off and had to sign something to keep quiet about it?
From what we can see it would have been a one and done if he were cast
lol he is not a great actor, are you fucking serious? he's the heroin dealer in pulp fiction, that's literally his biggest moment. Nobody gives a shit.
@@wakeupscreaming9883 Perhaps an NDA? Anyways there is feedback from Stoltz @8:52 in this video
@@bitchmadecockfed6109 If you haven't already check out MASK (1985) which is based on a true story. It's another notable performance from Eric Stoltz that earned him a golden globe nomination. Anyways chill, no need for hate
The idea in '86, filmed in'84... released in '85...... my god... he's a time traveler! It all makes sense now!
Glad I'm not the only one who was confused
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'76 one presumes
This is why you double check your VO & facts before you hit publish on a video.
Great Scott, you're right!
Happy they brought MJF on. He made this movie fun.
Michael has excellent comedic timing and is an excellent reactor!
Disagree. He made the movie fun but a serious perspective would have made the destruction of the time machine more meaningful.
@@lukesargent7551 Well the problem is that is would have been a totally different movie and sure that could have worked. The only thing is Stolz didn't write the script and he wasn't the director or the creator. Had that been their intention for a very dramatic movie, but that's not what they were trying to do. That's why they used comedic actors in most of the other roles. So how is that supposed to work? It doesn't. If Stolz was doing another time travel movie, sure. Why not. But for this movie, MJF just made it work.
@@lukesargent7551 nobody cares about that.
@@lukesargent7551 A serious perspective in a time traveling movie is interesting, but in BTTF? This ain't it
To me it doesn't fit with the world especially when characters like Biff (The meat-headed high school bully), Doc Brown (The bug eyed scientist), and George (The wimpy bookworm) have comical tropes. It's like Christian Bale Batman surrounded by the Adam West series villians.
Michael J Fox is the embodiment of 80s spirit.
@@theiceman6941 I guess you just had to be there to understand lol
I wonder how many people upvoting it reallly know the 80s.
What really happened is they released the film with Stoltz, it flopped, and then they used the DeLorean to go back in time and recast with MJF.
Release the Eric Stoltz cut!
There is not an alternative cut with Eric just some footage before they deciided to replace him.
@@TheJamie6666 they shot most of the movie with him
I could be wrong but I want to say I read its on the bonus features on the dvd again I could be wrong
I think someone said they will release Eric stoltz sometime in the future
@Theaussieraccoon Thanks!
Stolz has that 1000 yard stare that turns everything into a dark psychological drama.
I mean, the films did get pretty dramatic
Exactly!
Eric didn’t become the star that Michael J Fox became but he still had a damn good career
Eric is a gifted actor and went on to have a varied mid level career (propped up by his buddy director Cameron Crowe).
But he never broke through to mega fame in any other films other than Mask that was made before BTTF. Memorable cameo in Pulp Fiction and great role in Little Women aside.
If he'd pulled off Marty McFly like MJF he might have been bone fide A list and had a better career as he was more conventionally handsome.
Eric Stoltz is a good actor, but looking at his scenes he just looks like he is thinking "What the hell am I doing here".
I’d be thinking that too if I time travelled
@@timdailey2690 😂
@@timdailey2690 Thats how you know Eric is good for the role
yeah in one scene where he sees biff bullying his dad ( in the cafe the first time) it lowkey looked likr he was in biffs gang but mjf looks so more confused
Not sure why It took them so long to figure out why he was a bad choice. It only took a couple of scenes for Coppola to fire harvey keitel from apocalypse now
Eric was terrific in Pulp Fiction. Perfect casting there.
Marty McFly (such a hip name lol) was the coolest guy in the world when I was a kid. I genuinely thought getting around on my skateboard holding onto a car was going to be a part of high school.
I would be if you made it one haha
I just now learned of this and it just seems like an alternate reality seeing someone else playing Marty Mcfly. It makes me wonder if there's movies out there that didn't do so well but could've been a massive hit had someone else played the main character.
Have you heard the original Darth Vader voice?
@@flowerpt That doesn't really count since the original Darth Vader is still in the film. His original voice was the same of the actor who played it. Though they added James Earl Jones voice on it.
Michael did only get five hours of sleep a day - in the car which was driven by someone else while he slept in the back seat. Most of this is covered elsewhere, however the Eric Stoltz footage shows that his was during the day, while most of Michael J Fox's was at night. I always wondered about that. Thanks for sharing the footage.
There’s actually another frame left in the final cut where they used Stoltz’s footage. It’s the scene when Marty jumps into the DeLorean to escape the Libyans near the start of the film. It’s a blink and you’ll miss it moment just like the bar scene.
Almost looks like a stuntman.
Really respect how much work you put into the 3D photos and mockups.
You’ll have to excuse the crudity 😜
He didn't have time to build them to scale or paint them
Those shots are actually taken from the _Back in Time_ documentary. The one at 5:08 for example appears at 19 minutes 30 seconds in the documentary.
I think Eric Stolz has done alright for himself, though. He's become an actor, director and producer, so he didn't let his bad experience with Back to the Future ruin his career!
I agree, plus his story is similiar to many actors who were originally cast for a role that would ultimately become legendary, but had a last minute change. Theres is also no guarantee it would have been as successful if Stoltz was the lead actor. He was known, but not as much as Michael J. Fox at the time, who was a household name already
You don't make it as an actor by collapsing in a heap at every downturn.
@@deannamarie3746true
Eric Soltz is a great actor and played a creep in another time travel movie The Butterfly Effect so well.
Oh hey was the moleater dad totally your right.
What? Eric stolz is in the butterfly effect?!?!
@@isabellavalencia8026 Watch it, yes he certainly was.
@@DMalltheway Oh my he was the creepy dad?!?
@@isabellavalencia8026 yes
Release The Stoltz Cut! Lol
not get fokt
Dj skandalous the goat
YES
I would of loved to of seen it as a bonus on the 4K blu-ray release but it didn’t happen
I wish I really like stoltz so would be interesting. Heard he played it more seriously which also be interesting
Michael J Fox had the kid next door look that everybody liked. That’s what was missing with Eric Stoltz. We liked Michael from Family Ties. Another film that Michael J. carried by his “likability” was The Secret of My Success”. What a great movie that was!
Michael J Fox is animated and exaggerated in every scene. Eric is more of a drama actor. The producers got it right replacing Stoltz.
@@alvinmortimer7536 Yes, a lot of people don't seem to get that the characters in this film are exaggerated for comic effect - not a lot but enough to be abnormal.
He may not be no Marty McFly but he definitely is Lance from pulp fiction lol
Lol now I’m trying to picture Michael J Fox as Lance.
If only he knew how to do Lance back then for the Marty role
His wife is the one "with all the shit on her face"..........
That role almost went to Michael j fox and Matthew Broderick as well as Kevin dillion.
I find it hilarious that Stoltz looks like a mix of Fox and Glover
I always found it uncanny how much Eric and Michael look alike!
I can’t believe he was filming for 5 weeks before they fired him. That’s insane to me
Something I will say is Eric Stoltz definitely resembled Crispin more than Michael j. Fox did.
No kidding. Look at their profiles in that pic by the clothesline. Exact same bump in the nose.
One thing that gets forgotten is that the whole Calvin Klien sub plot and product placement was due to Eric's resemblance to Calvin. Another nod was that Klien was a coastguard. Although not in 1955.
Wow didn’t know that
"..such as growing his fingernails really long, just like real rock guitarists..." I been playing guitar for like 20 years and I've never heard of this. Also, I NEED to keep my fingernails trimmed to play right.
It’s for finger picking, so not rock guitarists. More like folk.
So true. That's what guitar picks are for.
It’s more common among nylon-string classical players.
It depends which hand, he grew his nails on. If he were right handed. It would be his strumming hand (right).
Even though I play mostly classic rock, and heavy metal. The nails on my right hand are longer. For some picking parts.
You are correct though. As far as the fretting hand. The nails need to be very short.
I had always wondered why Marty didn't look like his dad (Glover). Seeing Stoltz, the choice of Glover makes more sense.
Marty more resembles his mother.
Glover is a great actor who did an amazing performance in BTTF one
Release the Eric Stoltz cut! I want the dark and serious version 🙂
it does seem like a more serious version. even his outfits are different. no more life preserver))
There is another screen that still has Eric, in the beginning of the movie when Marty 1st jumps into the Delorian if you freeze frame you will notice that it's not Fox but actually Stoltz.
Bob Gale: "Stoltz, you are terminated! Read my fax!"
Eric Stoltz: "No, I can't be fired! I'm fired! Ohhh, this is heavy!"
The scene at 4:08, is actually part of the original and much different BTTF opening. In the opening there is a big beam of light that is being reflected off a pair of mirrored sunglasses that Marty is wearing class, listening to his walkman and tapping his foot while the rest of the students watch boredly a 1950's documentary on nuclear testing. The teacher walks around to see if the students are paying attention and then sees Marty moving his head and tapping his foot. She removes his sunglasses to discover that his eyes are closed. Jennifer is watching from across the room. Marty opens his eyes and sees the teacher who pulls of his headset off his ears and sends him to detention. Then we cut to Strickland's office, where he puts Marty's walkman in a vice(attached to his desk), crushes it and hands it back to Marty. Strickland believes that Marty's 3rd walkman but Marty corrects him saying it's his 4th. Strickland can see Marty doesn't like school, Marty sarcastically says no, he LOVES school. Strickland tells Marty that he's got a real attitude problem, he's a slacker. He opens Marty's folder on his desk and says Marty has aptitude but doesn't apply himself and adds that Marty reminds him of his father(George) who was also a slacker at school. He tells Marty that he's got 2 weeks detention starting to today. Marty says he and his band are auditioning for a YMCA dance gig and he has to be there. Strickland says, "Too bad, McFly. I guess this just isn't your day." While in detention, with Strickland at the front desk grading papers, Marty formulates a plan. He takes a lens out of a projector, fastens a piece of gum to a matchbook, slingshots the matchbook to the ceiling with a rubber band right next to the smoke detector, uses his sunglasses to reflect the sunlight from the window to the ceiling and uses the projector lens to focus the light into a white beam that sets the matchbook on fire, setting of the smoke alarm and the sprinkler system, one of which sprays Strickland in the face. Marty then grabs a skateboard and darts out of the building while Strickland and the students are in confusion. That much I'm sure was filmed. In this original beginning, Strickland looked much older in 1985 as he had bags under his eyes and wrinkles in his forehead and had only a little bit of hair remaining. They probably changed it to him being completely bald but his face still looking the same. As the script says that he was born old and still looks basically the same in both 1955 and 1985. So I guess they decided in the original version, Strickland looked too aged and had to cut back on the makeup.
More was supposed to follow after this opening. Marty is seen going out of the school that has graffiti all over it. Goes across the town square where the clocktower is holding on to the back of cars. Then arrives at the YMCA where Jennifer and his band are waiting for him. He makes it just in time and they start playing but are then rejected. Then Marty and Jennifer are walking around the town square where they're told about the clocktower. Then Doc is actually supposed to show up in an RV that's filled with clock all in precise sync which all go off at the same time and Doc loves that sound. The inside of his RV a bit untidy with fast food cartons everywhere. Marty and Jennifer don't notice the plutonium container in it. Doc reminds him to meet him at Twin Pines Mall at 1:15 am tonight. Marty asks what it's about though but Doc says he doesn't want to spoil the surprise and drives off hauling a trailer behind him that has something big on it that's covered... The Delorean. Jennifer asks about Doc. Marty says he met Doc a few years ago and Doc hired him to sweep out his garage and pays him $50 a week. He adds that Doc's a nice guy and has a great vintage record collection. They're about to kiss when Jennifer's father comes to pick her up.
That part was not filmed because it was supposed to be on the 1980's town square. But they had to film all the 1950's stuff in the town square first and then age it 30 years. But when Eric Stoltz was fired, they hadn't aged the town square yet and had to reshoot all the Marty scenes with Michael J. Fox in them. After they reshot all the 1950's stuff with Michael J. Fox as Marty, they then aged the town square 30 years but by then, they had also decided to change the beginning of the film. Most of the elements of the original beginning were retained but used and shown in a different way.
I know how the original beginning played out because I read the script online.
I would love to see these alternate takes of the film. Damn timelines!!
That's actually how it goes in the novelisation, too!
"Heavy"
That makes the Stoltz cut all the more interesting.
I recently read an article that of course they did shoot the detention scene with Eric Stoltz as Marty. When Marty was recast with Michael J. Fox, they had to get more money in order to reshoot all the Marty scenes they’d already made. Unfortunately, they weren’t able to get enough money to reshoot the detention scene so the plot at the beginning had to be altered a bit.
Believe it or not, I am in possession of the letter from when Eric Stoltz was sent the script for this movie. 30 years or so ago I found it folded up in a novel I got in a used bookstore in San Francisco!
Would love to see that!!
I'm going with not believe, but I'm open to being proven wrong.
Could you post a video or something showing it then?
Flash 2023 film brought me here
Young Eric here has a very similar face to MJF. But they'd obviously written the movie for MJF. They needed MJF.
In the 2010 Blu-ray documentary, Kathleen Kennedy (one of the executive producers) confirmed this somewhat by saying: "We started really looking for somebody who might embody many of the qualities that Michael had."
Eric was way too (ok) serious of actor for this.
Yeah Fox nailed Marty's characters
If they want a change in tone tell your actors
too
@@SeamHead33 but do you agree....
People keep being like "Eric is still in the movie because Thomas said so" but they actually checked the call sheet, and they in fact did reshoot that scene so Eric is not in the movie at all,
Would love to see the Eric Stoltz footage one day
Look at the picture, this is definitely Stoltz head. The image before, MJF has a different hair style than the guy punching Biff
Window blinds were in a slightly different position as well in each scene.
Almost forty years later, Eric Stoltz's resemblance to MJ Fox is uncanny.
Absolutely, I was thinking the same thing!
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This guy didn't know that his dad had attended the same high school he did? Did they never talk to eachother as he was growing up?
Did he die?
I would totally watch his version. Eric was so good in Mask and Pulp Fiction.
The Flash really measured up this time
I think he's right that Stoltz throws the punch. Watch Biff's eye angle when he's talking to Fox -- he's clearly looking down. Now watch where his eye angle is when the punch is thrown -- much closer to parallel with his own height
This can be fixed in such a satisfying way. Marty not only travelled trough time but also across dimensions. Quantum entanglement makes it possible for both incarnations to exist in the same universe. A fourth movie could be done with Eric reprising the character, even rehashing the footage and exploring how he became split from the original incarnation.
It would be cool a fourth movie with this plot. I don't know, Stoltz could be an evil variant of Marty from another universe
Could also explain Jennifer's change of appearance.
Indeed there's a theory which say the Eric Stolz version is a timeline in who Marty couldn't make their parents fell in love together. That has caused that Marty to disappear
I just watched the show “fringe” season 2 episode 15 ‘Peter’ and in the alternate universe of the show Eric Stoltz does play Marty mcfly in back to the future. Also there’s a zeppelin station on top of the Empire State Building and the WTC towers are still standing…anyways That’s why I’m here watching this video because I never knew he was originally cast. I’m glad Michael J Fox ultimately became Marty.
It almost as if we are in some alternate timeline where he’s played as Fox and the real version was Eric… lol back to future actually changed the real reality… I mean there is def a version where he is the actor and fox never got the part…
I came for footage of eric . Didn't come come an entire recap / documentary on bttf .
I know, right? It's so redundant.
Same I was hoping to hear some of Eric's dialogue.
@@blyxx7450 I remember when this video was first posted. There was all this hype about having to wait days for it to premiere, and it turned out to be not worth the wait.
@@incognoscente lol I hit the do not recommend this channel button after seeing this.
When the video started with Michael J Fox I immediately skipped to the Eric Stoltz segment.
Some people which worked on BTTF at the time said that Eric did his scenes in a more serious mood, like he was in Blade Runner or something, or on a serious sci-fi movie, not exactly what the producers had in mind, they wanted more humour and Eric just not delivering It.
But you can not blame Eric, the producers wanted M. J. Fox in the first place, Eric was always the Plan B.
there is a rumor that the producers mis-directed him on purpose to keep production going until Michael Fox became available. after what they did to Crispin Glover, I wouldn't be surprised if this was true.
@@CoolGobyFish A woman who worked for Amblin confirmed it in the comment section of a 2010 Hollywood Reporter article.
Yeah it’s important to keep focus on stoltz being the backup to cover for mjf contractual obligations- Imagine jerry seinfeld subbing for rick moranis
Eric Stoltz is STILL ALIVE! But strangely, on youtube, all I see are the directors/writers/producers talking about Eric Stoltz as if he were dead or something. I'd be really curious to know HIS PERSPECTIVE ON HIS FIRING.
Understandably, he doesn’t want to talk about this anymore. Judging from some other comments he actually gave some interviewe about it like 30 years ago.
Except he doesnt talk about it. Which is mentioned in this video
I fear that Eric's footage will never be released. The most ideal time in my opinion would have been in October 2015 when the second film took place. The film was on everyone's mind, and new details would have gained a lot of attention. That window is now long closed. The 25th anniversary has long past too, so if they are holding out for an anniversary, I can't imagine it will be any time soon.
Maybe they imagine after both Michael and Eric have died so there aren't any disputes? That might be seen as distasteful. 50th anniversary? Perhaps, as it's only about 15 years away. Still seems strange to hold onto something like that for 50 years though.
its possible they don't want to pay him royalties. just a guess.
It definitely has a different vibe/tone with Eric...and I honestly don't think i would have enjoyed it as much if at all.. BTTF is one of my top 10 favs from the 80's....Eric is waaaay too serious....Michael J just had that swag and captivating presence about him...and his comedic ability was top notch back then...he was so sarcastic and funny on Family Ties LOL....Perfect for this movie and Teen Wolf....Sorry Eric. I bet he is still reeling over that....But Michael J. made that movie his own....It would not have been the same without him.....
They should totally write a many-worlds time travel script that uses the Stoltz footage for a sequel in which a new actor travels back to 1985!
Imagine how pissed off you would have been being Eric and watching this franchise blow up the way it did.
Part of why it blew up was because of MJF's portrayal of Marty being a charismatic fun character and his chemistry with Christopher Lloyd.
Eric took his acting as Marty seriously and by that I mean he made Marty a serious person. I'm sure it the franchise wouldn't have been as popular if the actors were different.
I feel like if it weren't for MJF, BTTF would not be that popular
@@itzheraldo
Definitely! People love the franchise because of him and his chemistry with Christopher Lloyd. MJF made the movie a fun movie to watch. It was very different Eric. He was too serious for the role. Imagine if Marty was very serious throughout the whole ordeal, it wouldn't have been as fun for us viewers.
@@samiuddin7051 yep i agree
@@samiuddin7051 same goes for Christopher Lloyd, if it weren't for him too, BTTF would be nothing
He puts a nice spin on it but I mean I’d blow my brains out if the movie I got fired from was the biggest film of the year. 😂
I believe the producers sabotaged Eric because it seems nobody told him that he should had comedic timing, despite being this an action drama sci-fi film. Unless Eric was being a diva and just acting his character like he saw fit.
Well, they said much later that the script changed a lot during filming with Stoltz and that the movie had a more serious tone at first. There's a blog with a lot of info about the whole Stoltz firing thing
@@tomasn9175 True; Crispin Glover confirmed that the script was changed throughout filming. When Stoltz was interviewed for the L.A. Times in 1994, he hinted that Zemeckis was cryptic at best when it came to directing him.
MJF had the enormous benefit of coming in at the right time, when the producers knew they wanted a comedy and had already seen what was working and was not.
We need that version
Itnis crazy to think we almost didn’t get michael j fox as marty... that just seems so fucking wrong lol
Nah probably one of those things that "were better than planned"
Who knows? Lol people would probably be saying "so glad they had eric in it"
Like how people are saying "so glad fox was in it" lol
I want to see the Eric version. He’s a great actor. They should release it soon.
It really depends on the fans whether we see a Stoltz cut or not.....the "Donner Cut" of "Superman II" only came about due to *years* of fan demand and lobbying, and frankly it doesn't seem like the same passion is there for a Back to the Future Stoltz cut. Also, one major attraction of the Donner S2 cut is that there was a lot of different footage not seen in the released version, meaning completely different scenes, and also different lines in familiar scenes. If all a Stoltz cut would bring is the exact same film only with Stoltz, that's a negative towards it ever being released. Still, maybe we'll be surprised one day (I'd love to see it).
it seems like Stoltz version is more serious. Even his outfits are different.
Very hard to imagine anyone but Michael J. Fox as Marty McFly.
"...such as growing his finger nails really long, just like real rock guitarists."
Say what? Rock guitarists don't do that. Long finger nails is a hindrance to playing every form of guitar except classical, in which finger nails are long on the plucking hand only.
I think calling Zemeckis "naive" just because they tried Stoltz is a bit harsh. I think they kept comparing what they felt MJF would bring to Stoltz's performance and thus they considered his acting too dark and not comedic enough.
I know, right. It's like Eric became the understudy and whipping boy.
One of the studio heads pushed Stoltz onto Zemeckis.... Zemeckis felt obligated to start filming with Stoltz
Eric was really good in Memphis Belle, Rob Roy and of course Pulp Fiction.
Have you seen *The Waterdance?*
I liked him in The Butterfly Effect and The Rules of Attraction. Really dark roles that were small but memorable.
Mask.
Narrator: “Poor Michael would only get 5 hours sleep per day”…
Parents of young children: lucky bastard
This is basically an episode of the Docu made by Netflix "The Movies that Made Us" this 2021
Kudos to you sir. Great and spot on infos.
Casting isn’t just about being a great actor. The actor also need to have chemistry with the role. A main actor is who breaths life into a character. It seems It wasn’t about his acting, he just wasn’t the vision for how he portrayed the character. Eric had a different perspective for Marty and MJF’s perspective happen to be dead on and what the directors envisioned.
And let's not forget that comedy was a BIG thing back in the 80's so MJF would've been the much better choice for this kinda role...
@@OtomoTenzi not only that but Michael had that natural charisma
I agree. You can be a great actor, but if you cast a great actor in a role not meant for them, it'll fail. Like placing someone who is primarily great at comedy in a psychological thriller would be unlikely to work.
Finally someone said it!
This is one of the most perfectly constructed movies, as far as the narrative goes.
I've watched it so much I've memorized it.
It had nothing to do with Stolz's performance, that was just their excuse. They had always wanted Fox, and he suddenly became available.
it’s funny, because this reminds me of when i was in a play that had two casts: in one i was one of the main characters and in the other i was a background character (it was like that for all leads), and i played my character really fun and lighthearted, but other other girl who played her made her a little more stern and serious. neither ways of playing the character was “right,” they were just different.
eric doesnt seem to realize that if they made the movie with him there may not have been any sequels
There's another scene left in the movie of Stolz, when Marti, dressed in the yellow nucular suit, jumps into the DeLorean to escape from the Libyans.
Stunt double
I think that would be great if they released the version with Stoltz and let us compare and even enjoy both. I'm a fan of the story so I'm sure I would be able to enjoy both.
Eric Stoltz wasn't wrong in his portrayal. He was actually the better actor in that his portrayal was more realistic, how a person really would act if they went back in time.
Eric looks more like the son of Crispin so it would've been a good fit
Well damn what are they waiting for? Release the footage! It's only been almost 40 years.
Just get someone that looks like Eric Stoltz enough with prosthetics to play Eric Stoltz in the cut scenes to release it fully 😂
Release it bob! We want it!
Release a Eric Stoltz version, would be huge....!
No disrespect to Eric Stoltz but MJF was the role for this film. He is just so lovable, innocent and gentle.
Take me back to the 80's and those posters on my bedroom wall!
Moral of the story: Don't take it that seriously when you're acting and being the character.
Meanwhile in an Alternate timeline, Eric Stoltz and Melora Hardin are still star in Back to the Future.
And Robin Williams is Doc Brown.
@@mattyvarnas1736 oh god
Tom said the movie was just about completely done when they re-casted Eric. A lot more than 30mins
There has gotta be a cut of that version with Eric out still there somewhere...
“Much more taller”! God who on earth narrated this?!
she’s like 5’5 and mjf is legit 5’4
@@jdrc1233 HOLY SHIT
He also added a superfluous ‘much’ before stating Stoltz was ‘much ‘more’ healthier’ I despair!
It's had numerous of home media releases...
Wow I was just wondering if this existed yesterday and today it shows up in my feed. I know Eric stoltz filmed for over a month before they decided Michael J fox would play the part and they ditched the footage. It's official, Google does read my mind LOL
Eric Stolz is a great underrated actor. I bet it sucked to be fired from the film, but it was probably the greatest decision in cinematic history to have him released with Michael J Fox. It wouldn't be "Back To The Future without Fox and Christopher Lloyd.
Could an Eric Stoltz version be in the future? Maybe.
It all depends on how much demand there would be for a Stoltz cut, and how much footage remained.
Remember, Richard Donner was fired from Superman II, but enough of his footage remained to put ‘the Donner cut’ together. What he didn’t have he made use of director Richard Lester’s footage and screen tests of scenes he wanted to do. In retrospect, I found I liked Donner’s take better than I liked Lester’s and thought Donner should have been allowed to see his Superman II vision to the end.
I don’t know if a Stoltz take would be better or worse than Michael J. Fox. To me Michael will always be Marty, but I would love to see how a Stoltz take would go, as close to the original as it could possibly be made-much like Donner’s Superman II.
I’m thinking Doc and Marty might have been back in the past prior to ‘85 that caused some event that triggered the change of casting from Eric to Michael. Great Scott!
I would like to see that version with Eric as Marty as well
He's had some amazing roles, Eric Stoltz. Mask definitely comes to mind. You know he didn't pull off Back to the Future but you have to ask yourself could Michael J Fox have pulled off Mask?
They actually should have brought back Eric Stoltz for EP3 as Marty's 1885 great great Irish grandfather (instead of Michael doing both rolls). That would have been interesting.
I thought about this, but the damage had been done. Eric's career really went down after BTTF and it would have been humiliating to come across Tom Wilson again.
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If that role would have been offered to me, I would have said no. Why allow them to hire me again if they can easily fire him again. No thank you.
@@cpvillacis WTF!! Easily fired him?! There was nothing easy about that decision. In fact, the decision risked shutting down the entire production permanently. Do you understand how much it cost to re-shoot three weeks of principle photography? Stoltz wasn't playing some small supporting roll like in Jerry Maguire. You've obviously never worked in this business. This decision was on the verge of disaster for the production and it could have ruined Zemecki's career, even with Spielberg stepping in and backing him.
@@tyronejefforeillyramirez7961 shut up. Bye
Wow that really is time travel, he had the idea for the movie in 86 but it was released in 85.... now that is clever!
Imagine what could have been...Eric Stoltz's 'Creepy Dad' from The Butterfly Effect has a DeLorean time machine...he could go back and forth with 'Butterfly Effect' guy and they battle non stop like this. We could still be watching BTTF sequels.
The idea came out in "the summer of '86?" The movie was released in '85.
Eric Stoltz is a pretty good actor, but he's better suited for dramatic roles.
Big risk, big reward. Love this trilogy. Also enjoyed Fly 2 with Stoltz.
Michael J Fox was Zemeckis first choice but he had a scheduling conflict with his TV show Family Ties. When Stoltz was fired they brought MJF in and he had to do Family Ties from like noon till six seven at night then go do the Movie getting barely any sleep.
great video thanks for the work scribbles to screen good backround research and infos
Since the multiverse trend is currently popular in Hollywood, if they ever decide to continue the 'Back to the Future' franchise, why not consider casting Eric Stoltz as a different version of Marty McFly?
Don’t forget that the original Jennifer was Melora Hardin (Jan Levinson from The Office). She was only replaced after Stoltz was fired because she was too tall to play opposite Micheal J Fox.
she’s 1 inch taller like wtf
Did she shoot any scenes?
@@jokerfleckcast3196 Nope. She never made it to the set.
She was fired because they polled the female crew members and they agreed that a teenage female wouldn’t date a shorter man
Going to the same high school as your parents, living in the same small town.... I have no idea what it's like to be tethered to one geographical location like that. My parents grew up and got married in an entirely different country. I've moved 9 times in my life, including moving to a different country. I really wonder what it would be like to have that kind of history, knowing you had the same teachers as your parents, lived in the same town as your grandparents, or the same house..... 🤔
That is basically my life lo.
That was my life exactly. I always wonder what it would have been like to live in the same place my whole life.
This is a majority of where I’m from and quite a lot of suburbs in the US. It’s funny growing up and meeting people that have known my mother forever and they all say “omg you just like your mom when I first met her.”
Me lmao I know.
Don't wish for the same old-same old life in a same old-same old small town. Your exposure to the world's diversity made you much richer and smarter in experiencing the world ✨️.
Stoltz's ultimate career achievement was the character, "Lance" -- the pajama wearin' drug dealer..lol