@@redned7771 Maybe if youre sitting in spawn, even a gepard cant reliably kill targets past 2km. You need to push out with your team and preferably stay a little back so you wont get killed by tanks.
@@bananabob6127 Nah he clearly states that the BTR-152 is better purely for anti-air and moves on to the Zis-12 and Zut-37. That's when he says the formor is not for armor
I remember playing WT for the first time... I started with the USSR and the first vehicle was an SPAA... I got this and said "wait thats just a gun on a civilian truck" I miss these times
Bold of you to assume Stalin cared about protecting anything: Soviet Commander: Tovarisch Stalin, they bombed our columns, we lost around 300 tanks! Stalin: How convenient. We rolled out about a thousand just yesterday
Ive got to say the thumbnails of your videos are amazing. Im amazed at how nice and cool every videos thumbnail is. Im just saying i really appreciate the efort in making them.
Adats is probably best. It has OP missiles in terms of AA and anti tank capabilities. I like the tunguska more though, the adats is just a fat and ugly SPAAG.
"SPAA vehicles are the main and the most reliable way to protect your team from aerial threats" - I am really wondering if they are playing their own game, at least from time to time.
If you're talking about radar offset when tracking low-flying targets, that's a real-life thing called multi-path propagation. It's an intended feature.
@@vapetrail2909That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about being unable to lock a target when in clear sight and not flying low. As well as the lock-window moving itself to other positions on your screen or just right out disappearing, giving you no ability to lock the target at all.
More wheel axes on a vehicle means it can carry more total weight. So explain me this. 3 axes Milktruck - carries a single DshK. 2 axes Milktruck carries a proper heavy AAA
Bruce: Zis-12 doesn't do well against real armor Me who just get 5 kill series killingg some StuG s Tigers and Pathers : Laughting with checki brecki in background.
Hey, Gaijin, I appreciated that you put the "Phòng không T-34" in your game, but that version war made in Vietnam, not from China. We made that from the T-34 which we received from USSR. Their is only one version of that vehicle was made in Vietnam.
Dear gajin: air rb is broken. -round phase through enemies, so faster firing lower caliber guns have a better chance to hit due to the sheer amount of rounds -me 163 rips at 2 g’s randomly, and it’s dolly falls off too early in takeoff -me 262 c-2b is much less maneuverable than it should be -meteor mk 3 is a bit slow, as is the 262 -me 163 climb rate is completely messed up. In real life or could climb at a 70 degree angle, and this was in fact it’s optimal climb rate, while in game it can be out climbed by an f80 (why is that a thing, this has been my biggest gripe with the game, like why can a jet out climb a, you know, rocket.) -f84 wings rip randomly -bf 109 guns spark and do nothing, so you can’t get a single kill -spitfire has the same problem as the bf 109 -262 c2b is way to heavy for what mods are on it. -me 163 climb (this has been stated before, but this is probably the most annoying other than the guns phasing. Rocket out climbs jet irl, it’s that simple)
@@PyroBlonde7777 tell that to the Zis-43, who only has a chance at taking out an aircraft that is doing a diving at you, or is moving in a perpendicular or parallel line to your tank with no acceleration.
to sum it up: every thing (except GAZ-AAA (4M)) is next to useless until you get the shilka the ZSU-57-2 is mostly only effective at anti tank work. but its over BR'ed and I find myself doing little damage to planes if I somehow manage to hit it with the HE round
honestly I expected mention to its range rather than its anti tank capability. I think main reason expansion of its caliber, 7mm to 12,7mm, 25mm 37mm, 57mm is not aim to anti tank, its range. plane became fast that old range is too short to start shooting.
Please add some more Soviet spaa because they need some between the ZSU 37 and ZSU 57 2 and between ZSU 57 2 and ZSU 23 4 and between ZSU 23 4 and Tunguska reason for that is the ZSU 37 is to weak to fight at 6.7 for example against the first jets, the ZSU 57 2 maybe have a small chance at 7.7 but only if its hightier and the Shilka is good if you fight helicopters that have to came close or first era jets because it only have an effective range of 1.5 to 2 km and planes that she have to fight like the G 91 don't have to come that close (range of the Nord rockets is 8km effective range 2- 3km )same problem with helicopters with guided missiles
Honestly the adats isnt better. While the missile are capable of an antitank role more often then not it is not reliable enough, you have no stabilizer for sight and they are to fast to effectivly engage tanks below a kilometer because the need a second to straighten out. Not to mention the 25mm is shite. With 2s6 you can easily disable any mbt with your quad 30mm within a second, even while on the move because you have a stabilizer
Did he just say the zsu-57-2 is good at fighting aircraft? is the producer high? Yeah, if you hit something you'll definitely one shot any aircraft. But in there is the problem IF you hit anything. Good luck shooting down early jets and top prop planes at 7.7 with a less than stellar fire rate and reload. oh and the fact that firing on full auto mode makes the shells go crazy, making the effective fire rate even lower than what it shows on the stat card.
How aboutadding Enysei(competitor of Shilka armed with twin 37mm) and Object 520(ZSU-54-2 with new rapid dual autocannon in place of two cannons, VT fuzes and with optical system) to the SPAAG lineup? Enysei should have the same BR as ZSU-54-2 and just be a more rapid fire option while 520 is longer ranged option with VT fuzes. And f some one wants to cry aboutsoviet bias as response to suggestion, please, just make counter suggestion. US alone has almost half a dozen unused SPAAGs like T249.
The Phong Khong T-34 is not a chinese tank, even though it is either made of the chassis of a Russian T-34/85 or a chinese type T-34, the turret is the pure genius of the Vietnamese made them to counter US airforce.
Zsu 57, it should be in tank destroyer tree, because hitting any plane with it extremely not easy. But tanks are perfect food. I never saw other players trying to aa with the zsu. Just roaming around the map and hunting tanks
question for the next shooting range vid: can you bost the inteligense points in the Ships RB? it fells strange that ships batles does not have this tipe of reward compared to Air RB and Tanks RB
Hi Gaijin, would mind to add more ally and/or enemies tanks and planes in training ground? USA looks so empty, there are only two ally fighters on Pearl Harbor sky. More air targets or tanks would be nice.
I don't even play War thunder but I like watching as a "threw history" kinda thing along with as a Commander for AI in Arma 3 I wish I had my hands on some of these.
Did he just say the Zis-12(94-KM) wasn’t good against actual tanks? I’ve kill panzers from the front with that thing and flanking Shermans in it is hella fun.
Truck: *exists*
Soviet Military: *Is for me?*
Is for *us*
@@lebah8555 lmao
*laughs in french tech tree*
👉👈
You probably haven't heard about Italian guntrucks "Autocannone"
t34: exists.
Soviets: You will be a tank, spg, spaa, plane.
and fire extinguisher
And ship, don't forget the T-34 boats
a Museum, a Field Practice!
Dont forget the T34 submarine
You fool, you all are wrong, t34’s are space probes
Ah yes, how the soviet tree starts off with milk trucks
you spelled vodka wrong
You spelt Overpowered wrong
@@kayagorzan shilka ain't even that great when to reliably kill a plane you gotta wait till they within a 1.8-1.5km range of you which is very close.
@@redned7771 Maybe if youre sitting in spawn, even a gepard cant reliably kill targets past 2km. You need to push out with your team and preferably stay a little back so you wont get killed by tanks.
Ahh are you referring to *god mode*?
Helicopter: *exist*
Shilka: your free trial of living has expired
Tunguska :welcome comrade helicopter ,welcome to gulag hell
You stole my comment
We did it guys! Helicopter is no more
Or almost any AA
@@leonardorhd3881 It’s OUR comment.
russian milktruk best AA, don't change my mind.
*our mind
you spelled vodka wrong - Bill Wishop
Delivering communism since 1920
Wrong, it is an advanced revolutionary antitank
Yes
any vehicle: exists
soviets:there is some way to weaponize this
soviets: weaponize this and send it to war
same goes with Syria
Toyota is soviet company?
@@TheArklyte are you kidding right?
@@giorgiogalliano05 me? Or the OG commenter trying to sell off usual practice as something soviet and thus funny?:D
Title should be: Soviet SPAE( Self Propelled Anti-Everything )
Done that with a PT-76B once but lost the replay.
I killed 6 panzer 4s and 2 Bf-109s with my zis 12 once
SPAM (Self propelled Anti Matter)
@@pinngg6907 we dont use capitaliste words here body
@@اسكندرفكارwhos body?
Hah, I think you spelled 'tank destroyers' wrong
Where?
@@kartanonisanta7621 r/woosh
*zis12 exists *
Me be like: ThAtS A NiCe TaNk DeStRoYeR wAr ThUnDeR
@@Librrty4457 aa now I got it
If you don't use milk trucks as TD's at least once in war thunder. Your a normie.
"You've been hit by."
"You've been struck by."
"Truck."
That's how i usually died in low tier.
me too kid.... me too
*B O W*
@Akmal Ruslan it's based on that
"Some people think they can outgun me, maybe... maybe..., I yet to met someone who can outgun milktruck"
you spelled vodka wrong
Cry some more
Laughs in sniping anything that has got it's sights on said milktruck
Nobody outguns the milkman
War Thunder: Zis-12 doesn't do well against real armor
Me who kills multiple Panzers and StuGs with it :|
Zis12 could take toptier german's too,real talk;)
Lmao
I think he reffered to the BTR-152
@@bananabob6127 Nah he clearly states that the BTR-152 is better purely for anti-air and moves on to the Zis-12 and Zut-37. That's when he says the formor is not for armor
That's due to the fact that at 3.3 you will see uptiers to 4.3 quite often
ladies and gentlemen, here are the most dangerous tank destroyers in the game - Russian spaa's
Я оценил(hello from russian comunity)
you forgot about the demon called the R3
@@stalinapproved2762 you forgot about the Whirbelwind and Adats
@@stalinapproved2762 you mean the funny lunchbox that should be br 20.0 so it never gets matches
@@drytishuuz a g r e e d.
GAZ with 4 maxims is actually a great choice for new players who don't play spaa
Also great choice for those who dont play war thunder
@@TheMadVulpen what do you mean by that? It's a good spaa for lower ranks. I learned to use spaa playing gaz.
@@Ccofi123 ikr
M13 and CCKW 353 (M45) are also great for beginner.
50 cals will burn everything out of the sky
@@ryohandokoteh meanwhile p47's get destroyed before even getting a chance to shoot due to 30 mm
“The ZSU-57-2 is effective against air targets”
what were the people writing the script smoking
I used it only against slow prop planes and helis. And td most of the time
They weren't smoking. They were drinking russian milk
Its hard to hit a plane with it but if you manage to hit it... Well he's dead
@@trexater you right 1 hit and its down , but hell is fun to use against tank
@@Giacomo020189 yeah
KV-2 is the best AA in the game. Just let the hand of Stalin guide your shot
1 year and no comments perfect
@@bwonblitz2756 until urs u spanner
@@willlennox6973 ??? the am cuz the no???
i actually did it more then once so im really blessed by stalin
If a kv2 shot hit will be very devastating to aircraft
Bike exists :
Soviet Union : put three 33mm machine guns on here and four 56mm cannons
Oh and a Komet here, you never know when yoy might meet an Abrams
I remember playing WT for the first time...
I started with the USSR and the first vehicle was an SPAA...
I got this and said "wait thats just a gun on a civilian truck"
I miss these times
Q: Would you add modern crew models for vehicles with visible crew? Such as Type 93, Duster, M163 Vulcan etc.
Gaijin just did for Japan and Sweden
Ever going to fix the Gap from 4.7-7.7 in Soviet SPAA?
4.3
Probably never
Chances are they would if they could. Seems like a lack of platforms to use maybe?
Bold of you to assume Stalin cared about protecting anything:
Soviet Commander: Tovarisch Stalin, they bombed our columns, we lost around 300 tanks!
Stalin: How convenient. We rolled out about a thousand just yesterday
@@arcturus4762 say what you will but they still had SPAA's at the time.
Remember when the ZSU-57 and the T-10 were the best tanks in the game?
What do you mean "were" the ZSU is still great, I think they also updated it's hull break also.
Soviet spaa?
More like: death star
deesk skaaar
Wait, I just noticed
That rhymed :D
Soviet spaa isn't that good tho
@@dawn5573 *laughs in milk truck with double 37 mm vodka launcher*
@@dawn5573 the last spaa will delete helicopter in under 1 sec
Gaijin pls give us atleast a decent mid tier soviet spaa
Yes. ZSU isn’t effective against planes at all. Or at least gib us hevt rounds
What about the Yag 10?
believe me, the Zis 12 94 KM is very good against ground vehicles, i've seen those things take out tigers a plenty
GAZ AA 4m is best spaa in the game I’ve killed so many Helis with that thing
Yea and I killed a spacecraft it’s so op
Ive got to say the thumbnails of your videos are amazing. Im amazed at how nice and cool every videos thumbnail is. Im just saying i really appreciate the efort in making them.
Can we all agree that the Tunguska is the best SPAA in the game?
You mean Tunguska?
@@PRMihanya yes that I am bad at doing the action of spell
@@3verstorm Don't worry) It's a strange Russian name, so it's pretty obvious that it's hard for other language).
Adats is probably best. It has OP missiles in terms of AA and anti tank capabilities. I like the tunguska more though, the adats is just a fat and ugly SPAAG.
@@danny2717 respect AA bodies man this
"SPAA vehicles are the main and the most reliable way to protect your team from aerial threats" - I am really wondering if they are playing their own game, at least from time to time.
While we're talking about radar assisted SPAAs, please fix the glitchy radars!
If you're talking about radar offset when tracking low-flying targets, that's a real-life thing called multi-path propagation. It's an intended feature.
@@vapetrail2909That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about being unable to lock a target when in clear sight and not flying low. As well as the lock-window moving itself to other positions on your screen or just right out disappearing, giving you no ability to lock the target at all.
Gaijin fixing the game? HAHAHAH.
No, they don't do that here. They just blame the community.
How about reviewing britian spaas, it didnt get noticed on the overview of the British tech tree
My favorite is the zsu 52 because recoil has become thrust now.
2:40 Not even mentioning the BTR-152A is the fastest Soviet ground vehicle? :(
More wheel axes on a vehicle means it can carry more total weight. So explain me this.
3 axes Milktruck - carries a single DshK. 2 axes Milktruck carries a proper heavy AAA
I really like to use the BTR-152A, even in 7.7, it's eazy to use
I love ZSU 57 - 2. That's the only SPAA that earned a tank's respect.
Is bad AA in real live 😂
0:18 I love how his plane is on fire and the pilot is standing there like
"bruh"
Add more French Italian Chinese and Swedish aa
The sad thing is, Sweden has not used a lot of AA vehichles
@@axelingeson9929 but it would be nice to add them, 7 I dont think is all the As,s they have
Chinese AA would probably be either American or soviet lol
Actually the btr spaa is good enough to take more than 5 planes down in a row with it's 300 gun mag
I still have high hopes that one day we'll get the ZSU-37-2 in the game. We gotta
Ahhh yes, nothing beats breaking the Geneva Conventions with my milk truck
6:08 and I thought the Wirbelwind was OP
Bruce: Zis-12 doesn't do well against real armor
Me who just get 5 kill series killingg some StuG s Tigers and Pathers :
Laughting with checki brecki in background.
3:00 "But has trouble dealing with ground targets"
Yeah ok, *looks at Ruskii9000s videos with a cold sweat*
Hold on... Am I hallucinating or is that a maus at 4:20 that the SPAA is shooting at
probs hallucinating but still
Hey, Gaijin, I appreciated that you put the "Phòng không T-34" in your game, but that version war made in Vietnam, not from China. We made that from the T-34 which we received from USSR. Their is only one version of that vehicle was made in Vietnam.
low tier german tanker: "oh boy I sure hope this match goes well"
Dimitri, slav squatting on a milk truck with his machine gun: "Hello, comrade"
Soviets: One gun isn't enough...make it four!
4:08 stalin himself
0:07 "SPAA are the main and most reliable way to protect your team from aerial threats"
*LAUGHS IN Rh202 CANNON*
Dear gajin: air rb is broken.
-round phase through enemies, so faster firing lower caliber guns have a better chance to hit due to the sheer amount of rounds
-me 163 rips at 2 g’s randomly, and it’s dolly falls off too early in takeoff
-me 262 c-2b is much less maneuverable than it should be
-meteor mk 3 is a bit slow, as is the 262
-me 163 climb rate is completely messed up. In real life or could climb at a 70 degree angle, and this was in fact it’s optimal climb rate, while in game it can be out climbed by an f80 (why is that a thing, this has been my biggest gripe with the game, like why can a jet out climb a, you know, rocket.)
-f84 wings rip randomly
-bf 109 guns spark and do nothing, so you can’t get a single kill
-spitfire has the same problem as the bf 109
-262 c2b is way to heavy for what mods are on it.
-me 163 climb (this has been stated before, but this is probably the most annoying other than the guns phasing. Rocket out climbs jet irl, it’s that simple)
Fee free to add on to the list, I really only play Germany me 163 and British meteor, but I’ve heard other complaining about the other thjngs
They don’t listen to the yt comments. Go to the forum/feedback
Phong khong T-34(Phòng Không T-34) is "Airspace Defense T-34" which is basically, you guys all know, a turret of a AA mounted on a hull of a T-34-85
Hmm yes the spaa tree that's shitty at killing planes until 8.0
Ease of use tends to be what makes a great vehicle in War Thunder. These AA can easily kill aircraft with practice but otherwise they're tough.
@@PyroBlonde7777 tell that to the Zis-43, who only has a chance at taking out an aircraft that is doing a diving at you, or is moving in a perpendicular or parallel line to your tank with no acceleration.
No issues with my Milk truck taking out Planes, bombers and light tanks
I have two favorites, the ZSU 23 4 shilka, and the ZPRK 2S6 Tunguska.
Seems really good. Especialy the Cold War SPAA because they can deal with jets
to sum it up: every thing (except GAZ-AAA (4M)) is next to useless until you get the shilka
the ZSU-57-2 is mostly only effective at anti tank work. but its over BR'ed and I find myself doing little damage to planes if I somehow manage to hit it with the HE round
Please add proxy fuse to the zsu 57, i dont care if u have to take it up to 8.0, just give it the dang HEVT round
I like how it said most agile but shows an f6f-5n.
honestly I expected mention to its range rather than its anti tank capability. I think main reason expansion of its caliber, 7mm to 12,7mm, 25mm 37mm, 57mm is not aim to anti tank, its range. plane became fast that old range is too short to start shooting.
ZSU-37? Ah yes, let's use it for a whole rank shall we
Italians using AS.42 from 1.3 to 3.3 and R3 from 4.3 to 8.3:
Are we joke to you?
3:02
"... and other jokes you can tell to yourself"
2:42 Gajin forgot. Theres cemet core bullets
5:50 looks so badass
My favorite AA for the Soviets rn is got to be the BTR-152A
Please add some more Soviet spaa because they need some between the ZSU 37 and ZSU 57 2 and between ZSU 57 2 and ZSU 23 4 and between ZSU 23 4 and Tunguska reason for that is the ZSU 37 is to weak to fight at 6.7 for example against the first jets, the ZSU 57 2 maybe have a small chance at 7.7 but only if its hightier and the Shilka is good if you fight helicopters that have to came close or first era jets because it only have an effective range of 1.5 to 2 km and planes that she have to fight like the G 91 don't have to come that close (range of the Nord rockets is 8km effective range 2- 3km )same problem with helicopters with guided missiles
6:08 we are not deleting the helicopters, we are just giving it new decoration with holes
Gaijin why did u remove the lock on target in Ground RB for Tanks?
Except Arcade
They didnt lol
Yes they did
@@julianviefers6703 i mean tanks
@@luomodiroiano6829 But why? Tho
I don't know
Hey Gaijin !! Nice video but we are still waiting for the "Climbing the ranks with French Planes" !!
when war thunder goes through the entire Tec tree in less then 10 mins, while plays go through it in less the 10 years
7:00 *laugh in ADATS*
Honestly the adats isnt better.
While the missile are capable of an antitank role more often then not it is not reliable enough,
you have no stabilizer for sight and they are to fast to effectivly engage tanks below a kilometer because the need a second to straighten out.
Not to mention the 25mm is shite. With 2s6 you can easily disable any mbt with your quad 30mm within a second, even while on the move because you have a stabilizer
Did he just say the zsu-57-2 is good at fighting aircraft? is the producer high? Yeah, if you hit something you'll definitely one shot any aircraft. But in there is the problem IF you hit anything. Good luck shooting down early jets and top prop planes at 7.7 with a less than stellar fire rate and reload. oh and the fact that firing on full auto mode makes the shells go crazy, making the effective fire rate even lower than what it shows on the stat card.
The tunguska is the best spaa in the game.
The best cannons and almost the best missiles in the game
How aboutadding Enysei(competitor of Shilka armed with twin 37mm) and Object 520(ZSU-54-2 with new rapid dual autocannon in place of two cannons, VT fuzes and with optical system) to the SPAAG lineup? Enysei should have the same BR as ZSU-54-2 and just be a more rapid fire option while 520 is longer ranged option with VT fuzes.
And f some one wants to cry aboutsoviet bias as response to suggestion, please, just make counter suggestion. US alone has almost half a dozen unused SPAAGs like T249.
Zsu-57-2.
Nobody, not a single soul.
Gaijin: It's a effective anti-air.
ah, ahah.
It's possibly the hardest SPAA to use against air.
7:13 Yoda is that you?
you ever notice he says gepard when it shows the kugelblitz and kugelblitz when it shows the gepard
The 2K22 Tunguska. It's a icon of the self-propelled air defense system
Gaijin, i dont want to lie: SPAAs looks useless when we are talking about first rank
You underestimate the power of dimitri's milktruck.
nope
very fun
The BTR is my personal favorite anything truck related
6:17 Ah yes the ZPRK 2S6, the most dreaded vehicle type in Battlefield 4, along with all the others.
The Phong Khong T-34 is not a chinese tank, even though it is either made of the chassis of a Russian T-34/85 or a chinese type T-34, the turret is the pure genius of the Vietnamese made them to counter US airforce.
fun fact, the maxim and dhsk AAs loose traverse speed if you run out of battery, I guess the tripod is battery powered.
Truck:*exist*
Ussr:We can milk you
4:26 phong khong (phòng không) means “anti-air” in Vietnamese
Add extra SP cost to the Guided missile equiped spaa that will be the best fix since aircraft cost extra RP to start battles
Do you have a playlist for videos like this? Love your works btw and I don't even play the game anymore.
Zsu 57, it should be in tank destroyer tree, because hitting any plane with it extremely not easy. But tanks are perfect food. I never saw other players trying to aa with the zsu. Just roaming around the map and hunting tanks
question for the next shooting range vid: can you bost the inteligense points in the Ships RB? it fells strange that ships batles does not have this tipe of reward compared to Air RB and Tanks RB
You should add the a-10 warthog into the game. BBRRTT. Also I love these vids so keep up the good work! Have a nice day.
No the machineguns and autocannons mounted on milk trucks 0:42
hey gaijin, will you put the italians ''90/53 su Breda 52'' and the ''90/53 su Lancia 3Ro'' truck cannons?
5:28
"Even some mbts"
I think they meant everything that moves
Hi Gaijin, would mind to add more ally and/or enemies tanks and planes in training ground? USA looks so empty, there are only two ally fighters on Pearl Harbor sky. More air targets or tanks would be nice.
The ultimate screen reminds me World in Conflict in Seattle Port during soviet invasion
Gaz - your watermelon killing is impeccable
A little off topic, but is it true that helicopters can hover, ever so slightly above the landing pad, and repair in mid air?
I don't even play War thunder but I like watching as a "threw history" kinda thing along with as a Commander for AI in Arma 3 I wish I had my hands on some of these.
Did he just say the Zis-12(94-KM) wasn’t good against actual tanks? I’ve kill panzers from the front with that thing and flanking Shermans in it is hella fun.
Ah perfect comrades. starting the new series with soviet vehicles
The Shukla is a beautiful beast
Using babushkas farm truck to hunt down hanz in his overweight medium tank will always be fun
please, TURN ON subtitles!