I wouldn't call the Dodgers the losers. They were just lurking in case things went sideways with the other teams. They have their star players already.
With the Yanks being close, Juan still probably favored the Mets after his family was disrespected by a Yankees employee when they came to see him in April. Things were apparently cleared up but Latino/Hispanic families do not forget that kind of stuff and it was apparently important to the Mets staff because they made a point to address the importance of Juan’s family to him and them.
@RobertVilla-o1q old slug???? Be smarter with your comments. I wasn't comparing him to the Dodgers. Signing Soto would have strapped us from signing other players of need. And nobody likes a sore winner. Stop bragging and misinterpreting what I said. Geez
As a Padres fan, I was super hyped when we got Juan Soto especially with all the media hype calling him the next Ted Williams and having such a player being part of a lineup that included Tatis Jr., Machado & Bogaerts. I will admit I was extremely disappointed I was expecting him to be an exciting dynamic player like Tatis Jr. a player you just had to drop what you were doing to see him up at the plate. Someone who is a once-in-a-lifetime talent, but I just found him to be a one-dimensional good hitter with a good eye at the plate which earned him a ton of walks. I understand the value of on-base percentage as a highly valued metric but I value RBI's & Slugging Percentage a bit more. No fan buys tickets to see a so-called game changer opt for a walk when they should expand the zone to drive in runs. In Sotos's case, I felt that in key situations where you needed him to be more aggressive, he would either take a pitch that he should have crushed or prefer to take a close pitch to get a walk. That would be great if he took advantage of getting on base by stealing a base or two or being a menace on the base paths like Tatis Jr. can be. But he was just an average base runner and a defensive liability. Many times stats can be deceiving, there are no stats that emphasize when that key hit or HR came. Or how a certain at bat was key to a victory. At the end of the year all anyone see is the accumulated stats that may be impressive but do not tell the real story. Much of Soto's full season stats with the Padres either came in garbage time or when the team was out of contention. He even enjoyed an ideal batting spot in the batting order between Tatis Jr. and Machado where he would be giving better pitches to see and drive, but unfortunately a majority of the time we would get a walk. Nonetheless, I found him to be nothing even remotely equivalent to a Ted Williams type whatsoever. Now as far as the Ted Williams comparison, are you kidding me? How did that comparison come about? Sure both players defensive skills were average at best and sure both have comparable Base running skills. The only thing they have in common is the both were left handed bats with somewhat similar power numbers, oh and they draw a ton of walks. But a career .280 hitter compared to a career .345 hitter who would consistently drive in 130 plus runs per year makes this comparison laughable. Oh and Williams was the last man to bat over .400 and might have done so again if not for the military service interruption during the peak of his playing career. Soto is definitely not even in the same ballpark of a Ted Williams nor should his name ever be used in the same sentence of the man. Hell he is not even at a level of Fernando Tatis Jr. or even a Tony Gywnn. I think the Mets are going to regret that contract over the long run. The Padres contract for Tatis is looking like a bargain now a far more dynamic player who is at a similar age to Soto who happens to be a true game changer on both offense and defense. A genuine Five tool player. Hey Mets fans I hope you enjoy your star player drawing walks when he should be driving in runs. I just have to give you my opinion of what I personally witness first hand.
Excellent analysis and I totally agree. Juan soda was definitely a disappointment with the Padres and not the difference Maker that everyone thought he would be. Also, I have never understood the comparison between him and Ted Williams. Ted Williams was a much more impactful hitter than Juan Soto will ever be, and yes, batting average still matters!
Blaming Soto as the reason the Padres failed when manny, tatis, and Bogartes all struggled is absolutely crazy. Soto has his approach as a hitter and doesn’t deviate from that. The style is not to everyone’s cup of tea but he has the best eye of any play in baseball and has been incredibly consistent for his entire career. His floor is being a 850 OPs hitter and in terms and has had over 500 slug all but one year of his career and lead the league in walks three separate times. The Mets aren’t gonna regret anything because they now have a true franchise guy to pair with Lindor and brings some discipline hitting to a team who was middle of the pack in strikeouts. Soto isn’t a Judge or Ohtani but he doesn’t have to be in order to be an all time great hitter
@michaeldietz4190 Not really! Sure his stats on paper have not matched some of his earlier stats. The biggest problem he has had is the amount of injury time that has kept him off the field. Many due to his bonehead reckless behavior away from the field like crashing motorcycles and opting out of choosing to repair it surgically. All that led to that PED use and suspension. The guy was tested before his injury and is currently even more so, and he has passed all of the tests. As far as dynamics go how many players have stolen home standing up? How many guys have thrown out guys multiple times at first base from their right-field position? Or change their position on the field and win a platinum glove in the first year at that new position? How many players average over 100 MPH off the bat when making contact? He has done all of that post the PED suspension. If that is not dynamic I do not know what is. I can't say the same for Juan Soto. Like him or hate him how many of you would not want Tatis Jr. on your team? And how many teams out would prefer a one-dimensional Juan Soto than an athletic Fernando Tatis Jr. on their team? I would venture to say few if not any.
As a Yankees fan all I can say is "THANK YOU!" to the New York Mets. Now the Yankees can do what they should have done all along and focus on pitching. Let's just hope Cashman does not make any stupid offers to free agent hitters. We need to have Ben Rice and 1st, Caleb Durbin at 2B and Jasson Dominguez in LF. If it were up to me Spencer Jones would be the starting Center Fielder.
We all knew Soto would in all likelihood go to the highest bidder, but I felt that if being Yankee, even if it was for a year, that it meant something to him and that it would give NYY the edge. By clearly choosing the Mets for 5 million more dollars showed he didn’t give a damn about playing in pinstripes and all it was about was his money and NOTHING ELSE. Yankees can now move past this and allocate their money to other player(s) instead of one guy who isn’t even close to Ohtani’s level of production.
This is such a weird take. The value was .6% different, in other words, negligible. It's just sour grapes to say it was the $5M difference, when CLEARLY it was something else, like the ownership, the fans, the direction of the team, the coaches, etc. Or maybe he just wants to grow a beard!
You guys are not considering the opt out Juan Soto got from the Mets after 5 years. The Mets will increase the AAV of the contract from 51M to 55M a year for the last 10 yrs of the contract. That’s 40M more overall at the end of the contract raising the overall deal to over 800M. I don’t think the Yankees offered that.
This is the best thing happened to Yankees. They didn't need another long term contract like this. Now they can balance the team and get better. They need more than one good hitter they need balanced team and different front office meaning no Al no Cashman. Until these are net Yankees will continue to be a losing team.
It's really sad Tiant didn't live long enough to make it in. Allen should have been in long ago. The era in which he played was pitcher dominated.. Parker? I don't know, he was really really good from 75-81 then drugs and injury until he went to the Reds where he regained his bat but wasn't a good RF. Then a decent DH with the A's I don't see his peak as good enough but that's just me
Ken.. Doesn’t a 75m signing bonus push the aav up? 51m is the 765/15. I don’t know. Just asking.. one would think if deferrals drag the value down wouldn’t cash up front drive up the aav?
Oh, the difference between markets. As a Cleveland fan, I’m over here giddy about Bieber inking a 1-year, $14 million deal and hoping to add a middle-of-the-road bat to the lineup for cheap.
I'm a Yankees fan but I'm constantly disgusted by other Yankees fans. Nevertheless I don't think Soto's decision was based on anything other than money. If there was any other factor it probably was the fact that he wanted to be the best player on the team and he knew that for the next few years Judge was going to be better.
The Mets have a much better future than the Yankees: payroll flexibility, young talent in Vientos and Luisangel Acuna, another playoff star in Lindor, and now the opportunity to be the greatest Met of all time
This will be an albatross of a contract eventually … I’m sure you’ll get some good years from him but that type of money for a great hitter and bad outfielder is preposterous
That’s why the Mets suck. They overpaid for that guy or Tony is a two-way player on Solo isn’t nobody did in the World Series. It didn’t impress me at all so good luck playing for a guy that didn’t hit nothing in the World Series.
One take I have for Red Sox is that they are getting Vlad Jr next year, they want a right hand bat they want a Dominican star to bond with Papi, there he is.
The Yankees didn’t lose Soto. He’s going to play for the team he wanted to be with from the get go. Walking away from the Yankees offer tells us Yankee fans everything we need to know. Soto will eventually find out he could have made even more money by way of endorsements had he stayed. Long term contracts usually end up biting team owners in the backside. The Yankees would be much better to invest the Soto money in 3 star players who would create a balanced team instead of being top heavy at the beginning of the order. While Soto is a great player keep in mind his defense isn’t so great. His batting average is on par with many players . To the Mets enjoy him and invite Bonilla to the stadium once in awhile.
Not a Yankees fan, but would think it would be better to spend that $750m on the top 3 available pitchers and someone like Teo who will get you 30HR a year. With may be some change left over. Pitching always wins over hitting.
@@johnjohnson1434 total dollar cost - x3 starters for $100-150m each per contract and Teo probably $80-100m. I am not a Yankees fan. So doesn't really matter to me.
IMO as a Yankees fan... that money is better served elsewhere. So... not worried about them not signing a below average defender in right field ,with no arm & no speed.
Santander is just as good in my opinion and hit more homers in 2024 and you can get him for 1/10 of the price, yes he is slightly older but he plays the game harder than Soto !
I love Santander but you're out of your mind d with that take. Soto is 26. He's gon a get you .300/35/100+ every single season. Santander can't hit over .240.
Huh? Just as good? Career OPS+ of 120 vs 160 If we can put that in tiers. 120 is All Star level but not Hall of Fame. 140 (Betts, Harper Freeman) is Hall of Fame 160+ is Elite (Judge, Ohtani and Soto)
Wow 765M!! Congrats to the Mets for signing this award winning MVP, I'm sure he has many, he probably won the triple crown or something, at least topped the RBI, HR or AVG list? multiple Golden Gloves? multiple 50+ HR seasons? multiple WS rings? what about stolen bases? probably many I'm sure... WHAT! NONE OF THE ABOVE?!!! well at least he won the HR Derby. Go Mets! 🤡
it's funny, how ppl in the middle/small markets are all for "sharing" in baseball, but, not when it comes to the country. the big markets just say " bootstraps" my friends.
As a Red sox fan, i can finally sleep well. After all the bull crap of lousy contractrs, and trades of Mookie and Bogaerts, nothing could be worst than anchoring the franchise to a horrible contract. Congrats NY METS
Wouldn't say my Dodgers were lovers in the Soto sweepstakes, we already got our hitters, didn't need him anyway. Far as the racism thing with Allen, well during his time, it wasn't equal far as segregation, but whatever race thing takes place today, today's whites are connected to the past, and get blamed for what happened in the past. But when us blacks say something racial in regards to whites, it's just how we feel, not really concern about being called a racist compared to how whites would be concerned, but it's wrong of whoever does it.
Firsr, the Yankees didn’t lose their best player. AARON JUDGE is the Yankees best player. Soto is a very good hitter but he is a below average outfielder, not a good base runner and doesn’t have a great arm. On the other hand, the NYY are in need of first and third basemen, another outfielder and some pitching. They can use the $51 million to get that help and strengthen a team that was not good defensively and had a bad base running team. I am a diehard NYY fans and I am okay with Soto’s decision. He will come to regret ir.
He Said Dodgers losers on Juan Soto ? They didn’t really presute him Dodgers don’t have to be scrambling for nothing they are set and only getting better
hopefully the desperate yankees pivot to Bellinger. Just get him off the team so we can move on. I like Belli, but it's obvious Jed and "nickels" wants to get rid of him before they do anything else.
As far as headling yes great deal for Mets. As far as being a winning team not exactly sure. You could get 3 long medium term quality players for what you are paying SOTO. If you can't build a team spending that kind of money picking up several players, not just one who is a great hitter but soso fielder then you don't know how to build a team. Too much money. The Mets did it before & they did it again. Overspent. You need a team not just one guy.
Ken, I wouldn’t call the other three teams that missed out on Soto losers. I would call it a win. This is a massive overpay for a mediocre fielder and good hitter. Also, when the Dodgers spend money, it’s bad for baseball. But for some reason when the Mets spend this kind of money, they aren’t looked at the same way.That’s OK though, because the Dodgers will continue to kick everyone’s ass for the next 7 to 10 years!
I just can’t believe Soto’s deal is good for the sport. This type of contract hurts the small market teams. 3 or 4 teams will dominate MLB. Maybe it’s already happening. The Mets, Dodgers, Yankees and maybe San Diego. Sure, I’m a Yankee Fan. My comment may sound like sour grapes. Personally I believe the Yankees need a Starting Pitcher, 3rd baseman and 1st Baseman. Come to think of it they need a left fielder also. It was preordained Soto would sign with the highest bidder and everybody knew that would be The Mets.
Think about this positively. This now means the Mets have less flexibility to obtain other key players going fwd. Now they have to prove that it was worth it because if they still fail, this contract, and Soto will become known as the biggest disaster in MLB history
Soto getting 300 million more than the Dodgers are paying Ohtani is crazy. Ohtani the last 3 years has hit 295 AVG 132 HR, Soto has hit 270 AVG 103 HR. Ohtani is also capable of stealing 50 bases at a 95% success rate while also playing gold glove caliber defense if you need him to. People forget it wasn’t his bat that had people in awe in Japan, it was his gold glove caliber defense in the outfield. He can also compete for a Cy Young. How does Soto get 300 million more than him? He is going to be a DH hitting 270 with 30 HR in 3 years
Ohtani has only stolen 50+ bases once. Hes hurt from a pitching standpoint ALL the time. His greatest asset is his hitting and hes a monster there. Dodgers overpaid for the greatest glass cannon of all time. Soto at least plays defense, albeit being an average defender, solid arm in the outfield and hits out of his mind.
@ my point is he’s capable of doing it. If his pitching were to fall off he could go and be a gold glove caliber outfielder that steals 50+ bases at a 95% clip. If he played outfield last year his WAR wouldve been around 14-15. As far as his pitching injuries the Dodgers are likely going to be smart with him and only use him as a pitcher for the second half so he’s ready for the playoffs every year
Ohtani home residence is in Japan, him taking deferrals means he's not paying taxes. Ohtani didn't take the angels to the world series, also has had two arm surgeries. Soto won a world series with the team who drafted him and a world series run with a team with major holes on its roster, you're right, they're not the same.
@@benjames4502 Like I said if Ohtani stops pitching he will continue to steal 50+ bases at a 95% success rate and he will likely instantly be the best outfielder in the world defensively. He has incredible range and obviously the best arm in the outfield ever. Soto is the third worst outfielder in all of baseball. And will definitely have to switch to DH very soon. Dodgers will continue to use Ohtani as an ace pitcher as long as he continues to do so. If they can get three more years out of him as an ace they will gladly take it
@@benjames4502 Also it’s important to realize that Ohtani did not have a second Tommy John. This injury was in the forearm region (his TJ was in a different area). Which is why the brace surgery was all he needed.
Mets fans need to enjoy this while it lasts. Because this is artificial. It’s not like the Mets have increased revenue by becoming the best run team in baseball (Dodgers). They’re doing this strictly because Cohen loves the Mets. But he is only around five years away from reaching the average male life expectancy
andddddd? you do realize cohens wife is 55 and will take over and your telling me cohen will be dead in 5 years??? lol ok buddy, hes 66 not 86, keep coping you moron
Yankees dodged a bullet. And I say that as someone loves watching Soto at should sow it a lot bad, but he's a one-dimensional player. You've got so much money now. To get all the other help we have. I don't want one player. I want a team. Good riddance.
gonna suck in same city when yanks lose 4-1 and offense is slumping and you see across town Soto just went 4-4 getting big hits. I get it, nobody was gonna outbid mets and Soto was a mercenary, being a yankee didnt mean shit to him, $ does. Not to mention Boras wanted that 50 mill a year mark. Its a big loss for Yankees to lose out to Mets and to lose a generational hitter and like others have said do you really trust Cashman to make the moves to get this team over the hump? I dont know if I do.
The Dodgers are still way better than the Mets. The Angels had 2 superstars Trout and Ohtani and won nothing. It was an overpay by the Mets in terms of money and years. They will regret this signing. My opinion. All this hype for a guy with inflated statistics playing at Yankee Stadium where every flyball to right field is a home run plus he had Judge in the lineup protecting him. Soto has an opt out but the Mets will be stuck with him till he is 41 years old, ha, ha, ha,............
Yankees simply wasting the time and talent since 2009 .Last 15 years they were lacking piching . Still missing first , third . If they win 85 or 90 games they never goning to win in the playoffs push .Not wisely build .
I knew the yanks were not going to commit to that money and years. Now they can and better go get 4 good players. Bregman, fried , bellinger, or trade for arenado if they don’t want Bregman
Soto is so overrated, good hitter, not great, mediocre fielder, average baserunner. Mets will regret this contract, Yankees can add the key players they need.
Overrated? Good hitter, not great? Cmon man. He’s an unbelievable hitter. One of the best in the game and didn’t hit his prime yet. Fielding, baserunning… yes not good but don’t hate on the guy bc he didn’t sign with the Yankees
When you look at On base plus slugging he’s top 5 all time at his age. Hes an all time offensive player due to how much he’s on base plus HR and RBI. There’s a reason so many teams wanted him
LOL, come and watch him in Flushing!!!! He would 50 HR’s a year for 10 yrs with short porch in right @ Yankees stadium. You must be so pissed!!!! LFGM!!!!
He should have stayed with the Yankees because he will not be winning a world series with the Mets they suck and always will because the owner knows nothing about baseball.
If I was Cashman, I would sign Bregman and fried, trade for Correa. The Yankees could go after Naylor or Bellinger, anything less and it's a major step back from last year's world series run.
He is not worth it, absolutely ridiculous and won't improve the Mets if they don't have the pitching! I'm sad that players look only to the paycheck and not to winning ( when is enough enough)!
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I wouldn't call the Dodgers the losers. They were just lurking in case things went sideways with the other teams. They have their star players already.
This actually is better for Yankees, they have many holes,now they can add more players
Brian Cashman: "adding more players to fill many holes" since 2009. All Rise!
They could add more players even if they had signed him but they choose not to spend more.. You make it seem like they would’ve ran out of money..
With the Yanks being close, Juan still probably favored the Mets after his family was disrespected by a Yankees employee when they came to see him in April. Things were apparently cleared up but Latino/Hispanic families do not forget that kind of stuff and it was apparently important to the Mets staff because they made a point to address the importance of Juan’s family to him and them.
No they couldn't add more players, not quality players. The Yankees need bullpen help, 1st base,3rd base,outfielder
Judge is our best player. So Ken, we did not loose our best player.
Your in bad shape if that old slug is your best! Dodgers will repeat but much easier with a six man rotation. Less wear and tear.
@RobertVilla-o1q old slug???? Be smarter with your comments. I wasn't comparing him to the Dodgers. Signing Soto would have strapped us from signing other players of need. And nobody likes a sore winner. Stop bragging and misinterpreting what I said. Geez
geritt cole is your best player... you're nowhere without him... even in the weak ass AL...
@@RobertVilla-o1q the Dodgers could have an 8 man rotation but who knows which of them will last long enough to pitch in the playoffs.
Loose is the opposite of tight.
Lose is what you do against the Dodgers when you can't catch a ball hit right at you.
The combo of Soto and Bobby Bonilla will be unstoppable!
Only difference these contracts mean nothing to the owner
Bobby Bonilla sucks.
😂😂😂
1000%… paying 50M/yr when he is 40yrs old Mets will curse the day
soto can be a bust and steve cohen wouldn't even blink... you're probably forgetting the wilpons are out...
As a Padres fan, I was super hyped when we got Juan Soto especially with all the media hype calling him the next Ted Williams and having such a player being part of a lineup that included Tatis Jr., Machado & Bogaerts. I will admit I was extremely disappointed I was expecting him to be an exciting dynamic player like Tatis Jr. a player you just had to drop what you were doing to see him up at the plate. Someone who is a once-in-a-lifetime talent, but I just found him to be a one-dimensional good hitter with a good eye at the plate which earned him a ton of walks. I understand the value of on-base percentage as a highly valued metric but I value RBI's & Slugging Percentage a bit more. No fan buys tickets to see a so-called game changer opt for a walk when they should expand the zone to drive in runs.
In Sotos's case, I felt that in key situations where you needed him to be more aggressive, he would either take a pitch that he should have crushed or prefer to take a close pitch to get a walk. That would be great if he took advantage of getting on base by stealing a base or two or being a menace on the base paths like Tatis Jr. can be. But he was just an average base runner and a defensive liability.
Many times stats can be deceiving, there are no stats that emphasize when that key hit or HR came. Or how a certain at bat was key to a victory. At the end of the year all anyone see is the accumulated stats that may be impressive but do not tell the real story. Much of Soto's full season stats with the Padres either came in garbage time or when the team was out of contention. He even enjoyed an ideal batting spot in the batting order between Tatis Jr. and Machado where he would be giving better pitches to see and drive, but unfortunately a majority of the time we would get a walk. Nonetheless, I found him to be nothing even remotely equivalent to a Ted Williams type whatsoever.
Now as far as the Ted Williams comparison, are you kidding me? How did that comparison come about? Sure both players defensive skills were average at best and sure both have comparable Base running skills. The only thing they have in common is the both were left handed bats with somewhat similar power numbers, oh and they draw a ton of walks. But a career .280 hitter compared to a career .345 hitter who would consistently drive in 130 plus runs per year makes this comparison laughable. Oh and Williams was the last man to bat over .400 and might have done so again if not for the military service interruption during the peak of his playing career.
Soto is definitely not even in the same ballpark of a Ted Williams nor should his name ever be used in the same sentence of the man. Hell he is not even at a level of Fernando Tatis Jr. or even a Tony Gywnn. I think the Mets are going to regret that contract over the long run. The Padres contract for Tatis is looking like a bargain now a far more dynamic player who is at a similar age to Soto who happens to be a true game changer on both offense and defense. A genuine Five tool player. Hey Mets fans I hope you enjoy your star player drawing walks when he should be driving in runs. I just have to give you my opinion of what I personally witness first hand.
Excellent analysis and I totally agree. Juan soda was definitely a disappointment with the Padres and not the difference Maker that everyone thought he would be. Also, I have never understood the comparison between him and Ted Williams. Ted Williams was a much more impactful hitter than Juan Soto will ever be, and yes, batting average still matters!
Tatis looking a lot less dynamic since his PED suspension, though.
Blaming Soto as the reason the Padres failed when manny, tatis, and Bogartes all struggled is absolutely crazy. Soto has his approach as a hitter and doesn’t deviate from that. The style is not to everyone’s cup of tea but he has the best eye of any play in baseball and has been incredibly consistent for his entire career. His floor is being a 850 OPs hitter and in terms and has had over 500 slug all but one year of his career and lead the league in walks three separate times. The Mets aren’t gonna regret anything because they now have a true franchise guy to pair with Lindor and brings some discipline hitting to a team who was middle of the pack in strikeouts. Soto isn’t a Judge or Ohtani but he doesn’t have to be in order to be an all time great hitter
@@nicholaskatsikas4904 Soto vastly underperformed with the Padres, especially as compared to how he performed before and after.
@michaeldietz4190 Not really! Sure his stats on paper have not matched some of his earlier stats. The biggest problem he has had is the amount of injury time that has kept him off the field. Many due to his bonehead reckless behavior away from the field like crashing motorcycles and opting out of choosing to repair it surgically. All that led to that PED use and suspension.
The guy was tested before his injury and is currently even more so, and he has passed all of the tests. As far as dynamics go how many players have stolen home standing up? How many guys have thrown out guys multiple times at first base from their right-field position? Or change their position on the field and win a platinum glove in the first year at that new position? How many players average over 100 MPH off the bat when making contact? He has done all of that post the PED suspension. If that is not dynamic I do not know what is. I can't say the same for Juan Soto. Like him or hate him how many of you would not want Tatis Jr. on your team? And how many teams out would prefer a one-dimensional Juan Soto than an athletic Fernando Tatis Jr. on their team? I would venture to say few if not any.
As a Yankees fan all I can say is "THANK YOU!" to the New York Mets. Now the Yankees can do what they should have done all along and focus on pitching. Let's just hope Cashman does not make any stupid offers to free agent hitters. We need to have Ben Rice and 1st, Caleb Durbin at 2B and Jasson Dominguez in LF. If it were up to me Spencer Jones would be the starting Center Fielder.
Brian Cashman: "making stupid offers to free agent hitters" since 2009. All Rise!
So much 🧂 in these comments. Love it. LGM
We all knew Soto would in all likelihood go to the highest bidder, but I felt that if being Yankee, even if it was for a year, that it meant something to him and that it would give NYY the edge. By clearly choosing the Mets for 5 million more dollars showed he didn’t give a damn about playing in pinstripes and all it was about was his money and NOTHING ELSE. Yankees can now move past this and allocate their money to other player(s) instead of one guy who isn’t even close to Ohtani’s level of production.
It is for one less year so the AAV is higher, 47.5M vs 51M per year. Does look to be chasing money.
This is such a weird take. The value was .6% different, in other words, negligible. It's just sour grapes to say it was the $5M difference, when CLEARLY it was something else, like the ownership, the fans, the direction of the team, the coaches, etc. Or maybe he just wants to grow a beard!
@@Trottah dont bother bro, let them cry
mets are better then the yankees first off and the mets farm system is top 5
You guys are not considering the opt out Juan Soto got from the Mets after 5 years. The Mets will increase the AAV of the contract from 51M to 55M a year for the last 10 yrs of the contract. That’s 40M more overall at the end of the contract raising the overall deal to over 800M. I don’t think the Yankees offered that.
This is the best thing happened to Yankees. They didn't need another long term contract like this. Now they can balance the team and get better. They need more than one good hitter they need balanced team and different front office meaning no Al no Cashman. Until these are net Yankees will continue to be a losing team.
Dick Allen is both well-deserved and overdue. Parker's reign was short, but I'm glad he made it. I would love to see Tiant eventually make it.
It's really sad Tiant didn't live long enough to make it in.
Allen should have been in long ago. The era in which he played was pitcher dominated..
Parker? I don't know, he was really really good from 75-81 then drugs and injury until he went to the Reds where he regained his bat but wasn't a good RF.
Then a decent DH with the A's
I don't see his peak as good enough but that's just me
The irony that the new George Steinbrenner is Steve cohen proves how wonderful life is😂 LFGM
The biggest takeaway?? Ken Rosenthal hates the Jays and Canada... @22:53. :)
Brian Cashman: pivoting since 2009. All Rise!
He's the best GM in the game. Just ask him.
Does Boris get paid up front or yearly ?
Ken.. Doesn’t a 75m signing bonus push the aav up? 51m is the 765/15. I don’t know. Just asking.. one would think if deferrals drag the value down wouldn’t cash up front drive up the aav?
So pumped for my Mets! Now more stars are coming onboard from hitting to relief pitches!
no chance soto opts out in 5 years, no ones gonna pay him more money at 31 years old
5 more teams 💪🏆
It would most likely be what Machado and the Padres did.
They will. Because hitters “age well” not like pitchers
He will !!!! Greediness will prevail
Oh, the difference between markets. As a Cleveland fan, I’m over here giddy about Bieber inking a 1-year, $14 million deal and hoping to add a middle-of-the-road bat to the lineup for cheap.
Bobby Witt Jr. must be ready to eat his hat.😊
A billion dollars contract!
@@mikerichardson7053 He already signed a lifetime contract for 270 million. His agent cost him half a billion
@@mikerichardson7053 no he won’t. He’s already locked up for majority of his career
How he is signed? He has an opt out?
@@jmhjmh3605 Nope, the team has club options on him though. His contract will likely be the worst in baseball history
Ohtani is never stealing 50 again unless he quits pitching
Wtf does that have to do with anything?
lol, you must be on the wrong channel
Yankee fan not disappointed ,let’s spread that Money around to fill holes with really good team players.
Money being equal. Maybe Soto saw how Yankee fans would boo their own players. Fans have Boo’d judge in the past. Smh.
I don't think Mets fans are much better tbh
I'm a Yankees fan but I'm constantly disgusted by other Yankees fans. Nevertheless I don't think Soto's decision was based on anything other than money. If there was any other factor it probably was the fact that he wanted to be the best player on the team and he knew that for the next few years Judge was going to be better.
The Mets have a much better future than the Yankees: payroll flexibility, young talent in Vientos and Luisangel Acuna, another playoff star in Lindor, and now the opportunity to be the greatest Met of all time
There's nothing wrong with fans booing their own players, we cheer when they do good and boo when they don't! That's life!
Mickey Mantle was beloved by NYY fans and he also got booed. That’s how some fans in NY are.
Mets will still nut get out the National league with the Dodgers entrenched at the top for the rest of the decade!
mets almost beat them last year without soto lol nobody is scared of the dodgers
@@mikedelape6609Bro the Dodgers only had 3 Starters for the playoffs and STILL won the World Series. Next season they will be way better
I guess it'll make it all the more sweeter when the dark-horse Brew-crew or D-backs stump both the Mets and Dodgers to emerge as NL champs!
Who cares? At least I know when I spend 20 dollars for a beer he’ll be there. Either way a beer is still going to cost 20 with or without him..
Took them to 6 games without Soto but 👌
Awesome Review. Absolutely NO NO Surprise.
Completely insane contract.
You know the Yanks didn't offer much less right?
@joebriggs5781 and it would've been insane for them too
Can the Jays stop gaslighting fans and admit they are never in on any of these guys.
Rosenthal probably kicking that he gotta talk about the Mets a lot more now 😂
Let him opt out after 5 years !!!!!! Mets will have the prime years and Yankees could have him back !!!!
Yankee fans reeling bc if Soto would've went back they for sure would've been gloating. There's a new big dawg in the yard now
The Nationals offer to Soto was fair. The deal with the Mets is bonkers. Good luck
The Bleacher Creatures will harass him to no end.
so? its more damning that big time free agents aren't choosing the Yankees. and thats coming from a Yankees fan.
He can buy and sell the bleacher creatures
This will be an albatross of a contract eventually … I’m sure you’ll get some good years from him but that type of money for a great hitter and bad outfielder is preposterous
Yeah well hall was going to fork over 760. So owners did not care.
It's about more than the contract.
New Kings of New York!!! lgm
That’s why the Mets suck. They overpaid for that guy or Tony is a two-way player on Solo isn’t nobody did in the World Series. It didn’t impress me at all so good luck playing for a guy that didn’t hit nothing in the World Series.
LGM..All these fake Owners & GM’s in here talking crazy. Go sit down 🟠🔵
Lfgm!!!🎉🎉🎉
No one talks about how Lindor helped recruit Soto
One take I have for Red Sox is that they are getting Vlad Jr next year, they want a right hand bat they want a Dominican star to bond with Papi, there he is.
The Yankees didn’t lose Soto. He’s going to play for the team he wanted to be with from the get go. Walking away from the Yankees offer tells us Yankee fans everything we need to know. Soto will eventually find out he could have made even more money by way of endorsements had he stayed. Long term contracts usually end up biting team owners in the backside.
The Yankees would be much better to invest the Soto money in 3 star players who would create a balanced team instead of being top heavy at the beginning of the order. While Soto is a great player keep in mind his defense isn’t so great. His batting average is on par with many players . To the Mets enjoy him and invite Bonilla to the stadium once in awhile.
CARLOS BELTRAN IN 2005 - Signed with the METS over the Yankees. It has happened once before
Coach Boone had to go before he would sign for the Yankees.
As long as he's Cashman's puppet the Yankees are stuck with Ba-ba-Booney
You guys deserve Boone. I hope he stays there forever. 😂
Yankees fans are coping hard. It'll be funny as shit if the Yankees don't see another WS for 15 years while the Mets snag 1 or 2 in that same time.
The standard for success is 5 in 13 years good luck!
@mattcomer9701 standard for who?
Hands down one of the dumbest takes I've ever heard lmaoo@mattcomer9701
@@DuckDuckGoose13Not the Mets, their standard is 2 championships in 64 years,the Yankees might win their next WS in 2095
It’ll be more funny if the Mets don’t make the playoff this year
Not a Yankees fan, but would think it would be better to spend that $750m on the top 3 available pitchers and someone like Teo who will get you 30HR a year. With may be some change left over. Pitching always wins over hitting.
Good luck getting 3 starters and Teo for $51M
@@johnjohnson1434 total dollar cost - x3 starters for $100-150m each per contract and Teo probably $80-100m. I am not a Yankees fan. So doesn't really matter to me.
IMO as a Yankees fan... that money is better served elsewhere. So... not worried about them not signing a below average defender in right field ,with no arm & no speed.
soto never wanted to remain a yankee, it was clear for years he wanted to he a met and he used the yanks to drive up the price from the mets
Years... lol... He was traded to the Yankees just last Year!
Santander is just as good in my opinion and hit more homers in 2024 and you can get him for 1/10 of the price, yes he is slightly older but he plays the game harder than Soto !
I love Santander but you're out of your mind d with that take. Soto is 26. He's gon a get you .300/35/100+ every single season. Santander can't hit over .240.
Soto doesn't play hard? Your just delusional.... I like to see if he tried harder what his numbers would be.
Huh? Just as good? Career OPS+ of 120 vs 160
If we can put that in tiers. 120 is All Star level but not Hall of Fame.
140 (Betts, Harper Freeman) is Hall of Fame
160+ is Elite (Judge, Ohtani and Soto)
He doesn't know what his talking about.a lot money yeah..but that hitter is something else.comoaring Santander.crazy
Great replace Soto with a low ba high strikeout right handed power hitter
Let’s go mets
Wow 765M!! Congrats to the Mets for signing this award winning MVP, I'm sure he has many, he probably won the triple crown or something, at least topped the RBI, HR or AVG list? multiple Golden Gloves? multiple 50+ HR seasons? multiple WS rings? what about stolen bases? probably many I'm sure... WHAT! NONE OF THE ABOVE?!!! well at least he won the HR Derby. Go Mets! 🤡
Soto is not worth $765 M
it's funny, how ppl in the middle/small markets are all for "sharing" in baseball, but, not when it comes to the country. the big markets just say " bootstraps" my friends.
As a Red sox fan, i can finally sleep well. After all the bull crap of lousy contractrs, and trades of Mookie and Bogaerts, nothing could be worst than anchoring the franchise to a horrible contract. Congrats NY METS
Soto contract makes Judge contract looks a bargin now. Again keep in mind Soto is much younger.
Wouldn't say my Dodgers were lovers in the Soto sweepstakes, we already got our hitters, didn't need him anyway. Far as the racism thing with Allen, well during his time, it wasn't equal far as segregation, but whatever race thing takes place today, today's whites are connected to the past, and get blamed for what happened in the past. But when us blacks say something racial in regards to whites, it's just how we feel, not really concern about being called a racist compared to how whites would be concerned, but it's wrong of whoever does it.
Mookie Betts is SOOO much better than Soto. My Bosox really blew it on Betts!!!
Looks like ken rosenthal
Now they have a 268 million payroll and have no starting pitching but senga
Don't worry if you don't like Canada, as a Canadian I hate Canada!
It’s great watching all the Yankee fans coping after getting left at the altar
Mets fan since 1969,but I'm not sure about this.😊
Is he better than what we had in RF? Are we better than we were yesterday? So not sure what you’re not sure about…
You want to go back to the Wilpon’s??
Come over to the Mets and you can bring your beard!
Firsr, the Yankees didn’t lose their best player. AARON JUDGE is the Yankees best player. Soto is a very good hitter but he is a below average outfielder, not a good base runner and doesn’t have a great arm.
On the other hand, the NYY are in need of first and third basemen, another outfielder and some pitching. They can use the $51 million to get that help and strengthen a team that was not good defensively and had a bad base running team.
I am a diehard NYY fans and I am okay with Soto’s decision. He will come to regret ir.
Imagine paying all that money and still losing to the Dodgers 💀
mets aren’t afraid of the dodgers you clown
He Said Dodgers losers on Juan Soto ? They didn’t really presute him
Dodgers don’t have to be scrambling for nothing they are set and only getting better
hopefully the desperate yankees pivot to Bellinger. Just get him off the team so we can move on. I like Belli, but it's obvious Jed and "nickels" wants to get rid of him before they do anything else.
Yanks wouldn't give him a suite b/c "policy"? so petty
Ken Rosenthal hates the Blue Jays!!
Going to spend like no one has done before. Ever hear of the dodgers
dodgers do not have the mets money
Mets don't have the dodgers talent and never will. They have more than enough. They stupidly overpaid in response to ohtani
As far as headling yes great deal for Mets. As far as being a winning team not exactly sure. You could get 3 long medium term quality players for what you are paying SOTO. If you can't build a team spending that kind of money picking up several players, not just one who is a great hitter but soso fielder then you don't know how to build a team. Too much money. The Mets did it before & they did it again. Overspent. You need a team not just one guy.
exactly. Mets are doing the same thing as the Angels. Baseball is a team game, need more than 1 or 2 star players like the Dodgers
We all know why, he wanted to stay in New York, but also wanted to grow a beard!
21:00 Blame Canada
Ken, I wouldn’t call the other three teams that missed out on Soto losers. I would call it a win. This is a massive overpay for a mediocre fielder and good hitter. Also, when the Dodgers spend money, it’s bad for baseball. But for some reason when the Mets spend this kind of money, they aren’t looked at the same way.That’s OK though, because the Dodgers will continue to kick everyone’s ass for the next 7 to 10 years!
nah they're losers
Obviously he didn't care about the Yankees.That is ok.They will be better off if they can make the right moves and trades.
I just can’t believe Soto’s deal is good for the sport. This type of contract hurts the small market teams. 3 or 4 teams will dominate MLB. Maybe it’s already happening. The Mets, Dodgers, Yankees and maybe San Diego. Sure, I’m a Yankee Fan. My comment may sound like sour grapes. Personally I believe the Yankees need a Starting Pitcher, 3rd baseman and 1st Baseman. Come to think of it they need a left fielder also. It was preordained Soto would sign with the highest bidder and everybody knew that would be The Mets.
Think about this positively. This now means the Mets have less flexibility to obtain other key players going fwd.
Now they have to prove that it was worth it because if they still fail, this contract, and Soto will become known as the biggest disaster in MLB history
if the owners don’t like it eat up ya let the dodgers and yankees do the same shit just steve can afford it better
Soto getting 300 million more than the Dodgers are paying Ohtani is crazy. Ohtani the last 3 years has hit 295 AVG 132 HR, Soto has hit 270 AVG 103 HR. Ohtani is also capable of stealing 50 bases at a 95% success rate while also playing gold glove caliber defense if you need him to. People forget it wasn’t his bat that had people in awe in Japan, it was his gold glove caliber defense in the outfield. He can also compete for a Cy Young. How does Soto get 300 million more than him? He is going to be a DH hitting 270 with 30 HR in 3 years
Ohtani has only stolen 50+ bases once. Hes hurt from a pitching standpoint ALL the time. His greatest asset is his hitting and hes a monster there. Dodgers overpaid for the greatest glass cannon of all time. Soto at least plays defense, albeit being an average defender, solid arm in the outfield and hits out of his mind.
@ my point is he’s capable of doing it. If his pitching were to fall off he could go and be a gold glove caliber outfielder that steals 50+ bases at a 95% clip. If he played outfield last year his WAR wouldve been around 14-15. As far as his pitching injuries the Dodgers are likely going to be smart with him and only use him as a pitcher for the second half so he’s ready for the playoffs every year
Ohtani home residence is in Japan, him taking deferrals means he's not paying taxes. Ohtani didn't take the angels to the world series, also has had two arm surgeries. Soto won a world series with the team who drafted him and a world series run with a team with major holes on its roster, you're right, they're not the same.
@@benjames4502 Like I said if Ohtani stops pitching he will continue to steal 50+ bases at a 95% success rate and he will likely instantly be the best outfielder in the world defensively. He has incredible range and obviously the best arm in the outfield ever. Soto is the third worst outfielder in all of baseball. And will definitely have to switch to DH very soon. Dodgers will continue to use Ohtani as an ace pitcher as long as he continues to do so. If they can get three more years out of him as an ace they will gladly take it
@@benjames4502 Also it’s important to realize that Ohtani did not have a second Tommy John. This injury was in the forearm region (his TJ was in a different area). Which is why the brace surgery was all he needed.
Mets fans need to enjoy this while it lasts. Because this is artificial. It’s not like the Mets have increased revenue by becoming the best run team in baseball (Dodgers). They’re doing this strictly because Cohen loves the Mets. But he is only around five years away from reaching the average male life expectancy
andddddd? you do realize cohens wife is 55 and will take over and your telling me cohen will be dead in 5 years??? lol ok buddy, hes 66 not 86, keep coping you moron
513cinti❤
NEW YORK STILL WINS IN THIS situation PERIOD!😅
NEW YORK STILL WINS IN THIS situation PERIOD!😅
NEW YORK STILL WINS IN THIS situation PERIOD!😅
Hey it's still New York❤
Hey it's still New York❤
Yankees dodged a bullet. And I say that as someone loves watching Soto at should sow it a lot bad, but he's a one-dimensional player. You've got so much money now. To get all the other help we have. I don't want one player. I want a team. Good riddance.
Too bad Soto isn’t Yankees best player
Please, don’t compare Soto to Ted Williams. Are you senile? I am a NYY fan and I am on Williams side 100 percent.
gonna suck in same city when yanks lose 4-1 and offense is slumping and you see across town Soto just went 4-4 getting big hits. I get it, nobody was gonna outbid mets and Soto was a mercenary, being a yankee didnt mean shit to him, $ does. Not to mention Boras wanted that 50 mill a year mark. Its a big loss for Yankees to lose out to Mets and to lose a generational hitter and like others have said do you really trust Cashman to make the moves to get this team over the hump? I dont know if I do.
Referee583 paid $1.99 to make himself look like a moron lmao
Sorry ur off imo Yankees fans will not be as up in arms as you think.
The Dodgers are still way better than the Mets.
The Angels had 2 superstars Trout and Ohtani
and won nothing. It was an overpay by the Mets
in terms of money and years. They will regret this
signing. My opinion. All this hype for a guy with
inflated statistics playing at Yankee Stadium where
every flyball to right field is a home run plus he had
Judge in the lineup protecting him.
Soto has an opt out but the Mets will be stuck with
him till he is 41 years old, ha, ha, ha,............
No player is worth that kind of money. I hope the Mets go bankrupt
mets are the wealthiest team in professional sports, they make billions and billions a year, they will never go bankrupt
Yankee Owner will sell the Yankees Elon Musk
Yankees simply wasting the time and talent since 2009 .Last 15 years they were lacking piching . Still missing first , third . If they win 85 or 90 games they never goning to win in the playoffs push .Not wisely build .
765m for a shitty outfielder😂
Yankees will target Teoscar Hernandez now.
Dodgers will re-sign him.
A .285 lifetime hitter and you compare him to Ted Williams? He is so overrated that it is ludicrous!
When Ted was playing guys were throwing 91mph. Now it's 103 in some cases.
Ken will never miss a chance to equate baseball with racism. His virtue signaling is tiring. This man is bad for baseball.
Soto will be baseball history's most expensive DH in about 5 years. Right now, he is just an average fielder.
I knew the yanks were not going to commit to that money and years. Now they can and better go get 4 good players. Bregman, fried , bellinger, or trade for arenado if they don’t want Bregman
$760mil for 16 years wasn't enough commitment? lay off the hard drugs
What??? They committed to more years than the Mets deal. And offered him 760 million.
Soto is so overrated, good hitter, not great, mediocre fielder, average baserunner. Mets will regret this contract, Yankees can add the key players they need.
Overrated? Good hitter, not great? Cmon man. He’s an unbelievable hitter. One of the best in the game and didn’t hit his prime yet. Fielding, baserunning… yes not good but don’t hate on the guy bc he didn’t sign with the Yankees
Jealous 😂
When you look at On base plus slugging he’s top 5 all time at his age. Hes an all time offensive player due to how much he’s on base plus HR and RBI. There’s a reason so many teams wanted him
LOL, come and watch him in Flushing!!!! He would 50 HR’s a year for 10 yrs with short porch in right @ Yankees stadium.
You must be so pissed!!!!
LFGM!!!!
@ I’m a Dodger fan and thankful they didn’t take him, not jealous!
Ken is a OD Mets hater. FOH not interested in his take.
SCOTT BORAS is the biggest bseball leach in the history of MLB.
I wanna see what Cashman does now.. haha
He should have stayed with the Yankees because he will not be winning a world series with the Mets they suck and always will because the owner knows nothing about baseball.
If I was Cashman, I would sign Bregman and fried, trade for Correa. The Yankees could go after Naylor or Bellinger, anything less and it's a major step back from last year's world series run.
Hopefully the Yankees sign Polar Bear!
I ain’t saying he’s a gold digger..
He is not worth it, absolutely ridiculous and won't improve the Mets if they don't have the pitching! I'm sad that players look only to the paycheck and not to winning ( when is enough enough)!
Dude, it's his career, not a hobby. If someone offered you $760M to go do your job, would you turn it down?
@brandonkiehl269 I would absolutely turn it down to get much less if I could remain on a winning team!