Having a small 0-4-0 wide open is a unique experience for sure. I have a 1" scale 0-4-0 and run at a track with long and steep grades.i had the throttle all the way open a few times going up the hill and the engine ran really fast.
That poor little engine gets so much unnecessary abuse in this video. All I heard the entire time was Sarah McLaughlin singing about saving the helpless little guy. So sad 😭
Any person can open a regulator wide. It takes knowledge skill and feel to control a locomotive slowly. I hope no one was injured or the loco damaged. The best would be the driver owner and all involved realise slow speed under control is the way to make knowledgable people smile and nod approvingly. Amacf StAndrews
St A & M Rly please read the description of the video in full. I explained why the engine was being run in this manner. The track in the video is a rebuilt (and heavily modified) version of the original track my father and i built years ago which had MUCH flatter grades and was not an issue for this engine. The new steeper grades of our current track are simply too much for that engine. Hence why you see the engine stall several different times at the same location in the track. Our other more powerful locomotives can handle this grade without issue at much slower speeds and we run them accordingly.
Oh god, this thing is scary to watch from a screen. Damn. Although Tichs can be like that, being based on small switchers. Like your average cheap HO scale, but capable of pulling a person.
you can control the speed if you try & your issues with stability is you are riding on a 3 1/2 in track which yes looks great for scale but for stability you'd be better adding an extra rail to make 5 inch gauge & make your riding truck 5 inch gauge
Scary or not, I think I'd like to have this engine, looks like fun! I model in gauge 1 right now, but I'd really like to have a locomotive I could ride behind, and these "Tich" locos are about as small as you can get. In my case, small is good, as I'm on a tight budget and I've no machining experience at all, so the loco would have to be simple like this so I could get to grips with it.
@@mikado1555 I'd say it very much is, unless you're somehow going to be pulling cargo for revenue with such a small loco. That aside, pretty well get the potential hazards of live steam, have a few locos for the garden in Gauge 1. Just saying I'd like something a little bigger to go for a ride behind instead of chasing after and watching.
@@Shipwright1918 Gauge 1 is more of a toy than the ride on. The ones that you can ride on and derail, destroy itself, give people severe burns, destroy the track and can hurt people. People have run these ride on trains low on water, run them fast and have them derail, not take care of it and be very, very ignorant with how they treat it because they see it as a toy and not as a machine that needs to be respected and taken care of.
@@Shipwright1918 If the first question someone asks me is, "how fast can it go?" I won't let them run as they are not respectful of the machine and see it as a toy. Anyone who runs my engine like how is done in this video will be kicked off. I have seen people run way to fast and derail the engine, which was then seriously damaged in the derailment. The owner then had to repair the loco that this bloke destroyed. I have no time for people who treat them like toys, who show a complete disregard to safety and a complete disrespect for the machine, especially when it belongs to someone else.
@@mikado1555 Are you insinuating that I am such a person somehow? Or did you just need to get that off your chest? Preaching to the choir here, steam's nothing to muck about with, and treating other people's stuff with respect is important, but I also will acknowledge that it's all in fun, and at the end of the day we're all a bunch of big kids playing trains. Nobody gets hurt, nothing gets broken, all is good.
Hardly surprising. With a scale speed of 200mph there will be suspension compression due to the out of balance motion forces that will lift the wheels clear of the running rail-head. When you reach a curve, off she goes. I tend to stick to the design speed of the loco when I'm driving, especially if it is someone else's.
May be you should rename Pidge, "the Suicide Kettle" or " Inferno Kettle" . Even devil won´t be fast enough to catch you and her. Really impressive how that well balanced 0-4-0 can handle the track. I don´t know who builted that clockwork mecanism, but that person can be very proud of it. It´s a real jewel !
Why would we do that? If we'd made this a high line that fall at the end would have hurt a lot more than it did and would have likely damaged the engine.
Mateo Pelissier not sure what the drawbar pull is. We've never measured it. I wouldn't imagine it'd be much more than 10-20lbs though. And it has nothing to do with being rich or reckless. That's just your opinion. ;)
Makes sense. The rich/reckless thing was just a joke. I think it's really cool that people can have live steam in their own yard. In fact my cousin built an SP 4-6-2 in his garage and runs it quite often. Hope you didn't take it wrong, and apologies if you did. :) P.S. If I was in your situation I would totally do the same exact thing! :P
PopsProductions124 no. no damage to the engine. put a slight nick in one of the rails from the riding car and i had a sore knee and hip for a couple of days.
That is why you give it full throttle before the grades vs even on the downhill slopes. Maybe you need to run at 125 vs 100? Also, running the engine that fast will just ware the dickens out of it! Toy steam engines weren't built to run that fast, let alone an actual model! Use your head man!
Geez, why run so fast? Anyone who ran my engines that fast would not be welcome to run them again. If it derails it will do a lot of damage to the engine.
Sir, I've been running live steam for over 20 years. This particular engine for it's weight and size is a bit of a special case on any track other than a flat one or one that is ALL downhill. And if operating at full throttle is the only way to make a grade then you either do it or don't run. So may I suggest you run YOUR engines how you "know" they should be run and I'll do the same.
Me: so how fast do you go?
Live steamer: yes.
the crash: OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOO *gravel flies everywhere* * train tumbells across grass*
Me: oh dear oh dear oh dear
Track is perfectly laid.
If Casey could do it, so can you.
Nope... because:
Charlie stole the handle and the train, it won't slow down.
& how?
have you tried putting Valium in the water? Love the way the crossing barriers start to go down ......and then give up as it flies through.
🤣👍 valium.
Having a small 0-4-0 wide open is a unique experience for sure. I have a 1" scale 0-4-0 and run at a track with long and steep grades.i had the throttle all the way open a few times going up the hill and the engine ran really fast.
That poor little engine gets so much unnecessary abuse in this video. All I heard the entire time was Sarah McLaughlin singing about saving the helpless little guy. So sad 😭
*LUDICROUS SPEED!!!!*
Any person can open a regulator wide. It takes knowledge skill and feel to control a locomotive slowly. I hope no one was injured or the loco damaged.
The best would be the driver owner and all involved realise slow speed under control is the way to make knowledgable people smile and nod approvingly. Amacf StAndrews
St A & M Rly please read the description of the video in full. I explained why the engine was being run in this manner. The track in the video is a rebuilt (and heavily modified) version of the original track my father and i built years ago which had MUCH flatter grades and was not an issue for this engine. The new steeper grades of our current track are simply too much for that engine. Hence why you see the engine stall several different times at the same location in the track. Our other more powerful locomotives can handle this grade without issue at much slower speeds and we run them accordingly.
Wow,They Say Duncan Rocks & Rolls But This One Is Champion
How are you riding this Flying Dragon?? Laying along a flatcar? Or sitting up somehow?
BTW you are NUTS to run like that!
Jim Bruneau did you not watch the beginning of the video and see me sitting on the riding car behind the engine?
Oh god, this thing is scary to watch from a screen. Damn. Although Tichs can be like that, being based on small switchers. Like your average cheap HO scale, but capable of pulling a person.
you can control the speed if you try & your issues with stability is you are riding on a 3 1/2 in track which yes looks great for scale but for stability you'd be better adding an extra rail to make 5 inch gauge & make your riding truck 5 inch gauge
Fast and powerfull.....
7:17 is a defo lion sleeps tonight moment
May I suggest you get a Fatshark set of goggles and video gear and drive that by RC then you can add a tressle bridge.
i think i just lost all of my brain cells. sorry, great video.
Scary or not, I think I'd like to have this engine, looks like fun! I model in gauge 1 right now, but I'd really like to have a locomotive I could ride behind, and these "Tich" locos are about as small as you can get.
In my case, small is good, as I'm on a tight budget and I've no machining experience at all, so the loco would have to be simple like this so I could get to grips with it.
Keep in mind it is not a toy.
@@mikado1555
I'd say it very much is, unless you're somehow going to be pulling cargo for revenue with such a small loco.
That aside, pretty well get the potential hazards of live steam, have a few locos for the garden in Gauge 1. Just saying I'd like something a little bigger to go for a ride behind instead of chasing after and watching.
@@Shipwright1918 Gauge 1 is more of a toy than the ride on. The ones that you can ride on and derail, destroy itself, give people severe burns, destroy the track and can hurt people.
People have run these ride on trains low on water, run them fast and have them derail, not take care of it and be very, very ignorant with how they treat it because they see it as a toy and not as a machine that needs to be respected and taken care of.
@@Shipwright1918 If the first question someone asks me is, "how fast can it go?" I won't let them run as they are not respectful of the machine and see it as a toy. Anyone who runs my engine like how is done in this video will be kicked off. I have seen people run way to fast and derail the engine, which was then seriously damaged in the derailment. The owner then had to repair the loco that this bloke destroyed. I have no time for people who treat them like toys, who show a complete disregard to safety and a complete disrespect for the machine, especially when it belongs to someone else.
@@mikado1555
Are you insinuating that I am such a person somehow? Or did you just need to get that off your chest?
Preaching to the choir here, steam's nothing to muck about with, and treating other people's stuff with respect is important, but I also will acknowledge that it's all in fun, and at the end of the day we're all a bunch of big kids playing trains. Nobody gets hurt, nothing gets broken, all is good.
Great engine if ever for sale would definitely would be interested
Really?
Is the loco alright?
2:58 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
It's like a earthquake
open up and level out that curve a bit. You can see it in previous passes it appears rough and tight.
Hardly surprising. With a scale speed of 200mph there will be suspension compression due to the out of balance motion forces that will lift the wheels clear of the running rail-head. When you reach a curve, off she goes. I tend to stick to the design speed of the loco when I'm driving, especially if it is someone else's.
.... except the engine never came off the track.... the derailment was due to a section of the curve that had become improperly banked.
@@JBEEUD Why run so fast?
How he could ride?
luckily no one was hurt?
May be you should rename Pidge, "the Suicide Kettle" or " Inferno Kettle" . Even devil won´t be fast enough to catch you and her.
Really impressive how that well balanced 0-4-0 can handle the track. I don´t know who builted that clockwork mecanism, but that person can be very proud of it.
It´s a real jewel !
How much would oje of these things cost? i was just curious
From$2,500- $10,000 US
3 1/2" gauge?.. On the ground? You guys really need to jack up that layout and make it a high line.
Why would we do that? If we'd made this a high line that fall at the end would have hurt a lot more than it did and would have likely damaged the engine.
@@JBEEUD But you'd be balanced better so less likely to happen. Just make sure there are no rocks and relatively soft dirt incase it does happen.
I'd love to be rich enough to be that reckless! She's a cute little engine. What's her drawbar pull?
Mateo Pelissier not sure what the drawbar pull is. We've never measured it. I wouldn't imagine it'd be much more than 10-20lbs though.
And it has nothing to do with being rich or reckless. That's just your opinion. ;)
Makes sense.
The rich/reckless thing was just a joke. I think it's really cool that people can have live steam in their own yard. In fact my cousin built an SP 4-6-2 in his garage and runs it quite often. Hope you didn't take it wrong, and apologies if you did. :)
P.S. If I was in your situation I would totally do the same exact thing! :P
Mateo Pelissier no worries. ;) ^_^
Are you ok?
Hmmm 🤔 thats what ya get for running it like that honestly it was bound to happen, that was just silly.
did it get damaged?
PopsProductions124 no. no damage to the engine. put a slight nick in one of the rails from the riding car and i had a sore knee and hip for a couple of days.
JBEEUD oh dear!
That is why you give it full throttle before the grades vs even on the downhill slopes. Maybe you need to run at 125 vs 100? Also, running the engine that fast will just ware the dickens out of it! Toy steam engines weren't built to run that fast, let alone an actual model! Use your head man!
David Boyce what you see is with the throttle wide open all the time. No where in the video do i close the throttle or even turn it down.
Yeah that's sadly obvious. You are going to ware that poor thing out beyond repair doing that.
Slow learner...
Someday you'll learn how to properly run a steam engine. Someday.
If you think you can do better with that kind of engine on those grades I invite you to post your own video showing you can.
Geez, why run so fast? Anyone who ran my engines that fast would not be welcome to run them again. If it derails it will do a lot of damage to the engine.
Then why the Hell would you ride it??
Dark Soul Deity because its fun and challenging to master. ^_^
nope nope nope nope nope
First of all, you don't go full throttle all the time. Must be new to live steaming. This is railroading, not stock car racing....
Sir, I've been running live steam for over 20 years. This particular engine for it's weight and size is a bit of a special case on any track other than a flat one or one that is ALL downhill. And if operating at full throttle is the only way to make a grade then you either do it or don't run. So may I suggest you run YOUR engines how you "know" they should be run and I'll do the same.
That’s what you get for being incompetent. Good thing your only running live steam.