“Oh yeah, no, I’m so over Mystra. Really. Truly! I’m a Cleric of Light now! Why are there tear stains in my holy tome, you ask? ...Mind your business.”
To say it in the words of Jocat "With how versitile and independently strong a cleric can be you could make up an entire party made of purely priests call it the A-men and bust down Tiamats door demanding her lunch money"
My guess is that Cleric is least played because you have Shadowheart and she is the one character that fits well with both good and bad playthrough. Hence she is the only character that was used in all my playthroughs.
That and everyone who hasn’t played dnd probably thinks cleric is just a healing class and nobody wants to be ‘the healer’. clerics are actually god tier if built right. It’s pretty baller to have 20ac and the ability to drop heavy hitting aoe’s that aren’t just 1 and done like fireball.
@@thejury94 Astarion was not really a member of my first playthrough, only for his origin plot story. That was my Durge, Karlach, Gale and Shadowheart. Second playthrough was another Durge, but on the side of evil and had Astarion, Shadowheart and Minthara mainly (Lae'zel up until I recruited Minthara). My latest playthrough is another do-gooder party: Gale, Wyll, Shadowheart and me (Lae'zel).
I made the worst mistake by making Shadowheart have the trickery domain subclass on my first playthrough. I had no idea how good the other subclasses were. Lmao
The only reason Cleric isnt chosen in character creation as much is because people love having shadowheart in the party which fills the cleric roll for you.
@@thejury94 Mainly because as a player it's hard to be good without Astarion disapproving of your every breath and giving comments about how he doesn't care for it. Shadowheart isn't evil in that regard and actually approves of the player doing good things half the time. Most players bench Astarion for good playthroughs unfortunately.
See that's funny because I'm the exact opposite I hate shadowhart at least for right now maybe you she'll win me over but I also haven't played cleric yet
@@TyblimpAstarion is pretty easy to get high approval with and stay good aligned tbh just certain conversations, sarcastic and slightly chaotic is fine. The bite is 20 approval and subsequent convos just keep raising it. First play through was neutral good now doing a resist durge and got very high in act 1 in both it’s overstated how hard his approvals are
Act 2 is harder in general yeah but since youll be fighting undead like 90% of the time having all the radiant damage from your clerics is probably gonna make it even easier XD
I too wasn't hot on clerics, but I'm midway through act 3 and I can honestly say Shadowheart was the MVP of so many of those major fights lol. Cazador, Sarevok, Raphael...she straight up bodied so many of the supporting mobs and kept everyone buffed and alive.
Spirit Guardians + Luminous Armor means you can casually put out a couple hundred damage while giving enemies a -10+ to attack rolls every round, so yeah Cleric is kinda OK./s
Yeah, and to top it off Life Cleric is a fairly mid-tier cleric domain, unless you're specifically optimizing for healing (and in _most_ cases, that it is deceptively suboptimal). War, Tempest, Nature, and Light are all top-tier domains. But even with the weakest cleric domain, the kit is amazing because the base spellcasting options are amazing.
@@thejury94 Absolutely. Those are the easiest to build for in some ways. War and Nature are melee-driven and also have a fantastic set of domain spells. War Domain gets some Paladin stuff, along with a guarantee that you'll always have most of the short list of best cleric spells always prepared. And they are the strongest Level 1 build, starting with Heavy Armor and War Priest Extra Attack even on the Nautilus. Nature wants to optimize around staffs/staves or clubs with Shillelagh and one of the best spells in the entire game: _Spike Growth,_ which single-handedly reduces so many encounters to dust.
I played a game of DND last year where one of my friends was a storm domain cleric, and by the time we hit level 7 or so, he was by far the most powerful, versatile member of our party. So i wasn't surprised by this at all!
I’m currently playing as a tempest cleric in a group play through with my friends (they’re a bard, a rogue, and a monk) and being able to heal them with a mass healing spell is very important. I wish people would try to be a team player more.
I was SO shocked to see not many playing clerics! They're probably my favorite class. I'm doing my first play as a light domain cleric woth Shadowheart (life domain), Gale, and Astarion (arcane trickster). Its been so fun having a team full of casters!
In D&D 3.5, Clerics and Druids were generally considered the most powerful classes overall due to their tremendous versatility, very big spell lists, and general high stats. They weren't the best at everything, but domains and domain spells helped make up for that. I'm not surprised Clerics are still potent in 5e, even though they aren't as powerful in BG3 comparatively as in 3.5. Thankee!
Tip: clerics can start the command spell. You can use command: drop on the general on the helm to just pick up the sword and dip. It also had a pretty decent DC depending on your wisdom.
@@dov2mt that’s the thing, idc about every companion’s storyline. I’ve been playing since the 90’s and one thing I picked up that carries over to any and every game I play is “check every corner”. I can’t be the only one right? I mean, I restarted the game once I learned I can’t long rest before going in the mansion at waukeen’s rest. Doing so means the evnt is over, effectively missing out on potential loot. Idk man, I may have a problem.
My first ever DND class and my favorite character I ever played was a Life Domain Cleric. And yes; Clerics are monsters if they’re played correctly. Light Cleric, Tempest Cleric, War Cleric, Nature Cleric, and Life Cleric all come to mind in this game as being extremely op and Light/War/Tempest are probably the strongest. I haven’t played a Nature or knowledge cleric but my friend I game with went Nature Cleric and I can see the awesome abilities already. I have tried the other spellcasting classes, and Cleric is my second favorite (next to warlock) and I feel like is the strongest Caster. If they were better at talking to people they’d straight up be the best class in the game imo. So I love what you did in this video! Also really well done video, and I’m certain this channel will blow up with more vids like this!
Really very good content for your first serious video. I had a similar experience to everyone else with how powerful Shadowheart was, respeced into Light domain with Blood of Lathander and Radiating Orbs, it was sick. My second run 3 out of the four characters were respeced to at least multiclass some amount of cleric. And as mentioned Tempest cleric/ Storm Sorcerer is also ridiculous. With everyone seemed to share a reaction, I am surprised there was not more all cleric chatter, way to be first!
I always assumed a few reasons why Cleric was one of the least played classes: 1. Shadowheart is literally the FIRST companion you recruit in the game after the tutorial ship, a cleric. 2. clerics are spellcasters first and foremost, yes even the more martials ones like War and Tempest, because of that aside from the Gold Dwarf clerics they're not the toughest classes. 3. they're a wisdom class, meaning you'll have a hard time making charisma checks for dialouge 4. cleric, EVEN AFTER ALL THIS TIME, is seen widely as a "support" class. a healer, even with Life Cleric's after a few levels showing they're more than ah eal bot and more of a "guardian" for the team, most people see clerics as a backline that's just there to keep the team alive and do nothing else. all of this personally is reinforced by the stats showing which class is the most picked: Paladin. durable melee frontline which fits since the player character will ALWAYS be the one leading the party unless you take control of someone else charisma based character for dialouge checks some spellcasting to use, more as a swiss army knife of either melee damage spells or light heals/buffs takes of the strength and charisma rolls, meaning you can then take astarion, gale, and shadowheart for a clean, efficient, 4 man party through the whole game.
your visible amazement of karlach jumping through a window just through camera movement made me bust out laughing. also, ive done act 1 probably five times and i never thought of using an ice arrow for myrinas cage. good stuff!
do you know that when using a revive scroll, you click twice : first to select the body to revive, second to select where you want it to be revived. so you could have revived gale. even in combat at the cost of an action and a scroll.
I’m currently doing my very first playthrough as a war cleric and I’m loving it! It’s sad, that it is the least played class. You have so much potential and every domain plays honestly really different from the last.
THE BLASTER: 1 storm sorcerer/11 tempest cleric (or 3/9 if you want metamagic). THE FIXER: 6 light cleric/6 divination wizard. Take the lucky feat. Master of the dice. THE CONTROLLER: 7 nature cleric/5 beastmaster ranger. Spike growth, plant growth, spider pet for web (or just go pure nature cleric). THE KNOW-IT-ALL: 9 knowledge cleric/3 lore bard. Take the actor feat and expertise in sleight of hand. Your face and your "rogue".
Cleric is least played as main char, coz almost everybody have Shadowheart as cleric in party. Just switching her into life / light domain... thats better :) Also i like cleric a lot ... utility, heals, summons, dmg ...
I prefer to (depending on who I’m running around with for the playthrough) make her a war cleric mace momma, or keeping her trickery, giving her a rogue level, and dumping strength for dex so she can replace astarion. I like trickery and war thematically over light/life even given some…..events.
I had a playthrough with my TAV as a war priest to Tyr along side Lae'zel, Shadowheart, and Astarion. We blew through a LOT of enemies. I had a lot of fun.
Cleric has everything: Spells, Melee Prowess, Cool Looks, unique dialouge options depending on what god you serve. Whats not to like? Also I am now very keen on a second playthrough as a full Cleric Party. But Gale is getting Mystra! ;)
As a White-Mage main in FFXI for 3 years, I still to this day adore a single player RPG that allows me to be the Healer of the group that calls me their leader and not be punished for it. It let's me usually roleplay in a way that shows my importance and the protection of me in Battle mirroring the story of me a an important person, I kinda love that. Letting me also fuck people up and unleash holy wrath is a nova bonus tho lol
I had three quite different experiences with the cleric in my party. First campaign: Vanilla Shadowheart, trickstery domain. Missed all her shots, had a bunch of weird spells I didn't really make use of, but was useful for healing. Second campaign: No cleric in my party. It was managable but sometimes I lacked someone who could do a massive heal as a bonus action. Third campaign: Shadowheart again, but this time life domain and with optimized stats. She finally has reasonable % to hit and is even better at healing. Now that's what I'm talking about!
Those, Boots of Aid and Comfort, Warpira's Crown helm, Whispering Promise ring. Gives Blade Ward + Bless on heal, so be sure to have an Amulet of Restoration for your necklace for free bonus action heals.
To save Alfira you need to reload to a save before she visits the camp, go to her in the camp and knock her unconscious with non-lethal damage. Then a Dragonborn Bard named Quil will turn up and die in her place. If you cast "Protection from Evil and Good" and put on one of the Masks on the table you can get through to Ethel without fighting and seeing through the illusory traps.
Clerics know every spell they learn for every level you can swap them out by clicking the spell book in the inventory whenever you want, I think there is also a hotkey to go straight to the spells 'K'
For an overpowered party, just do 4 party members with any decent class combo, and make room for 2 level of divination wizard for each of them. That Simple. But I agree, Clerics are S tier, and they should be played more.
2 levels of tempest cleric plus any class thar can get you access to lightning bolt and/ or Call lightning is enough really. Use the create water lvl1 cleric spell to make enemies wet, which doubles their damage taken from lightning and cold spells. Once per short rest, use Tempest cleric's channel oath ability to do the max possible damage with a lightning spell on wet targets.
Any full caster class (and even half casters tbh) benefits from a 1 level dip into wizard just to get scroll reading. It’s worth more than any feat and unlocks so many utility options.
You need lava from the forge to have it work twice and check out the alchemist’s basement in the blighted village Tactician is also super easy don’t stress it’s not an overly punishing game
I hope you enjoy this video! So far this has been one of my most complex videos and I'm really happy with the outcome! Onwards and upwards. On another note, what do you think is the strongest Class?
My fav is the wizard. You can get the divination for the lucky feat but better, you can get evocation for insane damage and avoiding friendly fire, you can get enchantment as the party's face, you can make a multiclass of Eldritch knight+abjuration, and so many others
Heh, use create water in an area before you throw lightning (or cold spells) with the tempest cleric. It doubles the damage and give electrocuted, which takes away reactions from the enemy
I remember doing something like this when I saw the stats that cleric was the least played class. I did a run with Main character gith, 6 tempest cleric/6 storm sorcerer, Shadowheart 12 life cleric, wyll 6 tempest cleric/ 6 storm sorcerer and karlach (Bae) 9 light cleric, 3 paladin. I focused my main on thunder damage, so even in act 1 with the brand of the absolute and the absolute ring with the thunder hammer from the inn I was doing pretty consistent thunder dmg. In act 2 you get the thunder cape, reverb condition boots and thunder trident from act 3 genie its a strong front liner, conditions etc. Then wyll was the classic lightning god, electrifying water and doing lightning dmg. Karlach had that really OP stacking lighting orbs on enemies and dispelling darkness along with her racial smites and supplemental heals she was a boss. Light cleric can solo act 2 with all those shades and stealth types and its not even close, Shadowheart barely had any healing to do. Everyone rocking medium or above armor they worked very well together and it made sense to just focus on on type of damage for each of them. Thunder for main, lightning for wyll, radiant for karlach and healbot for shadowheart. The full cleric run was pretty easy even on tactician IMO.
There's some mercenaries in the grymforge that you can convince to fight with you against Nere. One of the sorry buggers managed to shove Nere into the lava and I couldn't loot him or take his head. Had to reload and try again and I swear, he kept running right up to the edge of the lava pit for some reason. I literally had to use all of Karlach's turns constantly shoving him away from the damn pit.
Looks like a fun run! Clerics rock. Lol all those spirit weapons and everyone in lawn mower (spirit guardians) mode! Nothing beats armored spell casters! Looking forward to your Act II adventures!
Early BG3 no one wanted to play cleric because Shadoeheart is a mainstay in the majority of playthroughs. Now everyone realised Tempest and Light clerics are two of the best classes in the game.
I played a Cleric on my first playthrough of Baldurs Gate 3, romanced Shadowheart on my second run, and then played as Shadowheart on my third run, Cleric is so good and imo one is required in every party.
Your mileage may vary. I started this with my daughter multiplayer where we each run two characters. We made each origin character a cleric as well as our custom characters. We struggled in combats with larger numbers of opponents at lower levels after running out of spells, even with the unlimited cantrips. Tempest and Light clerics were fine with creature control, up until the spell slots were gone. Trickster clerics are only good for buffs, in my experience, up to the point they get hit and lose concentration. Still working though the game though, and we'll see how higher levels go.
For my latest tactician playthrough I swapped Shadowheart from Trickery to life domain cleric with additional heals and resist buffs coming from 3 of her equipment pieces, it made encounters where you're swarmed that much more manageable.
I think that thematically you could use Astarion - Trickery with Tymora Gale - Knowledge with Mystra (or Oghma if Gale is feeling a bit angry at Mystra) Karlach - War with Tempus Lae'zel - also war with Vlaakith, later either tempest with Talos or war with Tempus Shadowheart Trickery with Shar, later Life (or if modded Twilight) with Selune Wyll - Trickery with Asmodeus (if possible), later with Tymora or Oghma
this came on in the background and i thought it was a video from someone with a few hundred thousand subscribers, i was surprised to see this only has 598 views, the video is very well made!
Aaah yes. The Minotaurs of the underdark. Thas when i really learned the power of grease bottles in this game. They both didnt get one turn done, and i was just level 3 at the time.
My main character is trickery cleric, the least played class with least played subclass. Its OP af. You get disguise self wich allows you to allways be disguised with no cost, or effort. Because pritty early in the game you can get a ring to get A Flat +4 ON EVERY FUCKING ROLL. On top of that you get blessing which is an aditional d4 on every check. And when you make the first level in rouge you will get a ton of proviciancys. You can steal everything and basicly have jedi powers... Its so insane
I've heard that tempest clerics are weak before, so I went ahead to hack it out and honestly I think they might be one of the strongest clesic subclasses
I am so stocked with the performance of this video, and I am glad that you are enjoying it! Thank you for watching and supporting the channel! Its pushing me to get act 2 out ASAP! Thank you all!
Hint: You can easily steal the sword from the devil in the tutorial if you use the Command spell (used by MC or Shadowheart) on them and choose "drop weapon". But I love my War Domain cleric, going 5 levels into fighter helps a lot, giving you the extra attack and action surge compliments the war priest extra attacks. Downside is you miss out on all the sweet late game spells, and on tabletop, that's pretty damn heartbreaking when you realize you could have been casting Temple Of The Gods by level 13.
imo, clerics are one of the most versatile classes in dnd (other than fighter, which has more versatility than i know what to do with.) you can go for pure healing, big damage, non-healing support, debuffs, etc etc. my current group has two clerics (tempest and death domains) and it's worked out great for us so far.
People didn't play as a cleric because shadowheart is already a cleric and she's the most popular companion. Clerics are a top tier class especially tempest cleric
My current party is lvl 3. I am a Light Cleric, Gale is Wiz 1 & Tempest Cleric 2, Wyll is Warlock 1 & Life Cleric 2 (and his next level will be Ancients Paladin) and Astarion is Rogue 1 & Ranger 2 (will be gloom stalker). It’s a pretty good mix so far :)
Shillelagh - Shil-AY'-lee. Irish word. Cudgel/walking stick I love this idea but wondering if I can re-spec everyone as Oath Breaker Paladins for a Durge run
"Seriously without versatile and independently strong you can build a Cleric you can make up an entire party full of purely priests call it 'The A-MEN' and bust down Tiamat's door demanding her lunch money, and she would just build her own toilet to give herself swirlies so she wouldn't have to endure the kind of bullying you're about to give her." -JoCat
@0:09 Me! I always go support if it's an option. I've even puzzled over Cleric vs. Paladin as to which would be the best healer/support. I'm thinking of playing as a Solidarity Domain Cleric if I ever get the chance.
My party consists of gale necro wizard, shadowheart light cleric, astarion storm cleric and myself as the gloomstalker ranger… they all have raise dead and its been awhile since anyone has been downed or lost hp.. loads of fun, i have astarion as a storm sorc cleric so he can nullify AoE spells to the party.. love the synergy when a single splash of water covers a room just to electrocute everyone in it, then freeze it soon after.. and then we unleash the zombie hordes while everything is prone 😆
Clerics are so busted. I played a Wizard and dipped two of his levels into Tempest cleric just for funsies and it was maybe the best decisions I could’ve made. Also my favorite build in the game is easily 5 levels War cleric, 5 levels Paladin, and the last two levels are flexible
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Just do you know, it's an Irish word and it's pronounced "Shih-lay-lee"
Thank you :)@@hmmm348
The fact you made Gale a Cleric of anything other then Mystra is hilarious to me, considering how down bad he is for her.
He's playing hard to get
@@thejury94yeah, kinda dropped the ball there
@@garygood6804Agree
@@thejury94nah, dog, boi simpin’
“Oh yeah, no, I’m so over Mystra. Really. Truly! I’m a Cleric of Light now! Why are there tear stains in my holy tome, you ask? ...Mind your business.”
To say it in the words of Jocat "With how versitile and independently strong a cleric can be you could make up an entire party made of purely priests call it the A-men and bust down Tiamats door demanding her lunch money"
Officially named the A-men
beat me to it.
Damn, I knew someone would write it xD
My guess is that Cleric is least played because you have Shadowheart and she is the one character that fits well with both good and bad playthrough. Hence she is the only character that was used in all my playthroughs.
That and everyone who hasn’t played dnd probably thinks cleric is just a healing class and nobody wants to be ‘the healer’. clerics are actually god tier if built right. It’s pretty baller to have 20ac and the ability to drop heavy hitting aoe’s that aren’t just 1 and done like fireball.
Strangely the same logic doesn't apply for Astarion
@@thejury94 Astarion was not really a member of my first playthrough, only for his origin plot story. That was my Durge, Karlach, Gale and Shadowheart. Second playthrough was another Durge, but on the side of evil and had Astarion, Shadowheart and Minthara mainly (Lae'zel up until I recruited Minthara).
My latest playthrough is another do-gooder party: Gale, Wyll, Shadowheart and me (Lae'zel).
I made the worst mistake by making Shadowheart have the trickery domain subclass on my first playthrough. I had no idea how good the other subclasses were. Lmao
@@Bigboigoinlong Yeah, Trickery is by far the weakest domain. I respec her to knowledge or light.
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The only reason Cleric isnt chosen in character creation as much is because people love having shadowheart in the party which fills the cleric roll for you.
yea I kinda feel that, but I do know of people playing double rogue with Astarion
@@thejury94 Mainly because as a player it's hard to be good without Astarion disapproving of your every breath and giving comments about how he doesn't care for it. Shadowheart isn't evil in that regard and actually approves of the player doing good things half the time. Most players bench Astarion for good playthroughs unfortunately.
@@Tyblimp I didn't bench him for my first good playthrough, you can keep him somewhat good
See that's funny because I'm the exact opposite I hate shadowhart at least for right now maybe you she'll win me over but I also haven't played cleric yet
@@TyblimpAstarion is pretty easy to get high approval with and stay good aligned tbh just certain conversations, sarcastic and slightly chaotic is fine. The bite is 20 approval and subsequent convos just keep raising it. First play through was neutral good now doing a resist durge and got very high in act 1 in both it’s overstated how hard his approvals are
Ah yes, The A-Men have assembled, ready to bust down Tiamat's door and demand her lunch money.
Act 2 is harder in general yeah but since youll be fighting undead like 90% of the time having all the radiant damage from your clerics is probably gonna make it even easier XD
I cant wait!
Dude that’s my favorite part, watching the shadows go into my spirit guardians lmaoooo
going into act 2 with shadowheart as a light cleric with the blood of lathander made it so easy
Zombies are no match!
Tbh I like to turn her into a light cleric by respec-ing after her hair color changes cuz flavour
I too wasn't hot on clerics, but I'm midway through act 3 and I can honestly say Shadowheart was the MVP of so many of those major fights lol. Cazador, Sarevok, Raphael...she straight up bodied so many of the supporting mobs and kept everyone buffed and alive.
This was my very experience, I want from seeing her as meh, to respecting her to Life domain and realising how good she was.
Spirit Guardians + Luminous Armor means you can casually put out a couple hundred damage while giving enemies a -10+ to attack rolls every round, so yeah Cleric is kinda OK./s
Yeah, and to top it off Life Cleric is a fairly mid-tier cleric domain, unless you're specifically optimizing for healing (and in _most_ cases, that it is deceptively suboptimal).
War, Tempest, Nature, and Light are all top-tier domains.
But even with the weakest cleric domain, the kit is amazing because the base spellcasting options are amazing.
@@tantalus_complex man tempest and Light were simply fantastic
@@thejury94 Absolutely. Those are the easiest to build for in some ways. War and Nature are melee-driven and also have a fantastic set of domain spells.
War Domain gets some Paladin stuff, along with a guarantee that you'll always have most of the short list of best cleric spells always prepared. And they are the strongest Level 1 build, starting with Heavy Armor and War Priest Extra Attack even on the Nautilus.
Nature wants to optimize around staffs/staves or clubs with Shillelagh and one of the best spells in the entire game: _Spike Growth,_ which single-handedly reduces so many encounters to dust.
I played a game of DND last year where one of my friends was a storm domain cleric, and by the time we hit level 7 or so, he was by far the most powerful, versatile member of our party. So i wasn't surprised by this at all!
I was so shocked at how good it was.
I made Shadowheart a storm cleric on tactician. She was crucial to victory
I’m currently playing as a tempest cleric in a group play through with my friends (they’re a bard, a rogue, and a monk) and being able to heal them with a mass healing spell is very important. I wish people would try to be a team player more.
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I was SO shocked to see not many playing clerics! They're probably my favorite class. I'm doing my first play as a light domain cleric woth Shadowheart (life domain), Gale, and Astarion (arcane trickster). Its been so fun having a team full of casters!
Hopefully this video will help boost the numbers for clerics!
Dont bother with arcane trickster. Right now the subclass is bugged and magehand legerdemain doesnt work.
I have not played Cleric as a Tav/Dark Urge, simply because Shadowheart is always part of my team.
I was honestly surprised to see this was such a small channel, this is a super entertaining concept and very well made! Keep up the good work!!
Thank you so much :)
the legendary A-men party
Yep
In D&D 3.5, Clerics and Druids were generally considered the most powerful classes overall due to their tremendous versatility, very big spell lists, and general high stats. They weren't the best at everything, but domains and domain spells helped make up for that.
I'm not surprised Clerics are still potent in 5e, even though they aren't as powerful in BG3 comparatively as in 3.5.
Thankee!
Glad you liked the video :)
Tip: clerics can start the command spell. You can use command: drop on the general on the helm to just pick up the sword and dip. It also had a pretty decent DC depending on your wisdom.
Ill keep that in mind for next time
"So i gave back the boots to the duergar"
Me who used those in my entire first run: *PAIN*
don't worry, I got them back in the end.
So wait… am I the only idiot that before proceeding to act 2, went back to the surface and did the mountain pass crèche area? is my ocd that bad?!
no not at all & it makes the most sense if u want to play every companions storyline
@@dov2mt that’s the thing, idc about every companion’s storyline. I’ve been playing since the 90’s and one thing I picked up that carries over to any and every game I play is “check every corner”. I can’t be the only one right? I mean, I restarted the game once I learned I can’t long rest before going in the mansion at waukeen’s rest. Doing so means the evnt is over, effectively missing out on potential loot. Idk man, I may have a problem.
i did the same but the other way around haha
I probably will since I haven't done it yet, But it just didn't flow with the run I was doing
@@thejury94 All good, it’s your run after all. I was just curious how many backtracked like I do.
My first ever DND class and my favorite character I ever played was a Life Domain Cleric.
And yes; Clerics are monsters if they’re played correctly. Light Cleric, Tempest Cleric, War Cleric, Nature Cleric, and Life Cleric all come to mind in this game as being extremely op and Light/War/Tempest are probably the strongest.
I haven’t played a Nature or knowledge cleric but my friend I game with went Nature Cleric and I can see the awesome abilities already.
I have tried the other spellcasting classes, and Cleric is my second favorite (next to warlock) and I feel like is the strongest Caster. If they were better at talking to people they’d straight up be the best class in the game imo.
So I love what you did in this video! Also really well done video, and I’m certain this channel will blow up with more vids like this!
Thank you so much!
Really very good content for your first serious video. I had a similar experience to everyone else with how powerful Shadowheart was, respeced into Light domain with Blood of Lathander and Radiating Orbs, it was sick. My second run 3 out of the four characters were respeced to at least multiclass some amount of cleric. And as mentioned Tempest cleric/ Storm Sorcerer is also ridiculous. With everyone seemed to share a reaction, I am surprised there was not more all cleric chatter, way to be first!
you can save the bard by knocking her out right before you long rest, another girl shows up and she dies
Good to know
0:12 MEEEEE I went with a Life Cleric of Ilmater right off the bat and the healing was impeccable *insert meme of Pacha from Emperors New Groove*
hehe
Clerics are fun to throw into enemies while they have spirit guardians on 😌
It sure is, just get them walking around in circles haha
I always assumed a few reasons why Cleric was one of the least played classes:
1. Shadowheart is literally the FIRST companion you recruit in the game after the tutorial ship, a cleric.
2. clerics are spellcasters first and foremost, yes even the more martials ones like War and Tempest, because of that aside from the Gold Dwarf clerics they're not the toughest classes.
3. they're a wisdom class, meaning you'll have a hard time making charisma checks for dialouge
4. cleric, EVEN AFTER ALL THIS TIME, is seen widely as a "support" class. a healer, even with Life Cleric's after a few levels showing they're more than ah eal bot and more of a "guardian" for the team, most people see clerics as a backline that's just there to keep the team alive and do nothing else.
all of this personally is reinforced by the stats showing which class is the most picked: Paladin.
durable melee frontline which fits since the player character will ALWAYS be the one leading the party unless you take control of someone else
charisma based character for dialouge checks
some spellcasting to use, more as a swiss army knife of either melee damage spells or light heals/buffs
takes of the strength and charisma rolls, meaning you can then take astarion, gale, and shadowheart for a clean, efficient, 4 man party through the whole game.
Very good points :)
your visible amazement of karlach jumping through a window just through camera movement made me bust out laughing. also, ive done act 1 probably five times and i never thought of using an ice arrow for myrinas cage. good stuff!
I had no idea it was possible! My intention was to jump over Gale in the doorway, but she pathed through the window!
I'm glad you like the video!
Holy shit, it finally happened. One of your vids was recommended on my home page. Good stuff man, proud of how far you have come!
Omg long time no see!
do you know that when using a revive scroll, you click twice : first to select the body to revive, second to select where you want it to be revived. so you could have revived gale. even in combat at the cost of an action and a scroll.
I’m currently doing my very first playthrough as a war cleric and I’m loving it! It’s sad, that it is the least played class. You have so much potential and every domain plays honestly really different from the last.
Yea I love their diversity. Tempest feels almost like a separate class to nature
THE BLASTER: 1 storm sorcerer/11 tempest cleric (or 3/9 if you want metamagic).
THE FIXER: 6 light cleric/6 divination wizard. Take the lucky feat. Master of the dice.
THE CONTROLLER: 7 nature cleric/5 beastmaster ranger. Spike growth, plant growth, spider pet for web (or just go pure nature cleric).
THE KNOW-IT-ALL: 9 knowledge cleric/3 lore bard. Take the actor feat and expertise in sleight of hand. Your face and your "rogue".
Might have to try these out
Cleric is least played as main char, coz almost everybody have Shadowheart as cleric in party. Just switching her into life / light domain... thats better :) Also i like cleric a lot ... utility, heals, summons, dmg ...
I prefer to (depending on who I’m running around with for the playthrough) make her a war cleric mace momma, or keeping her trickery, giving her a rogue level, and dumping strength for dex so she can replace astarion. I like trickery and war thematically over light/life even given some…..events.
I guess that's probably the case, but if you didn't plan to have Shadow heart, I don't think many people would choose a cleric.
I had a playthrough with my TAV as a war priest to Tyr along side Lae'zel, Shadowheart, and Astarion. We blew through a LOT of enemies. I had a lot of fun.
War priest was great!
Cleric has everything: Spells, Melee Prowess, Cool Looks, unique dialouge options depending on what god you serve. Whats not to like?
Also I am now very keen on a second playthrough as a full Cleric Party. But Gale is getting Mystra! ;)
A-men
I'm seriously surprised your such a small channel, this video was some great stuff 👍
This was one of my first attempts at this style of video! I'm so glad you like it! I appreciate it :)
These videos are incredibly well made, clean editing
Thank you 😊👍
As a wise man once said, "four white mages? It would never work."
Looking forward to the entire playthrough. Thanks for your hard work thus far
Thank you! I hope you enjoy the series
As a White-Mage main in FFXI for 3 years, I still to this day adore a single player RPG that allows me to be the Healer of the group that calls me their leader and not be punished for it. It let's me usually roleplay in a way that shows my importance and the protection of me in Battle mirroring the story of me a an important person, I kinda love that. Letting me also fuck people up and unleash holy wrath is a nova bonus tho lol
Love that! it makes healers feel awesome
I had three quite different experiences with the cleric in my party.
First campaign:
Vanilla Shadowheart, trickstery domain. Missed all her shots, had a bunch of weird spells I didn't really make use of, but was useful for healing.
Second campaign:
No cleric in my party. It was managable but sometimes I lacked someone who could do a massive heal as a bonus action.
Third campaign:
Shadowheart again, but this time life domain and with optimized stats. She finally has reasonable % to hit and is even better at healing. Now that's what I'm talking about!
I found trickery domain to be a bit mid
Ah cleric my beloved. Light domain I love because it just fucking nukes everything
Getting Hellrider’s pride gauntlets from Zevlor has been the best magic item. I put that on a life cleric and I still use it all the way through act 3
I wonder how I can get them while remaining faithful clerics.
@@thejury94 there are four ways of getting them either stealing them, killing Zevlor or just helping him out and he gives them to you
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Boots of Aid and comfort is another great item to have. You can get that from the guts the goblin
The best is to have the ring "the whispering promise" it gives bless with heals too
Those, Boots of Aid and Comfort, Warpira's Crown helm, Whispering Promise ring. Gives Blade Ward + Bless on heal, so be sure to have an Amulet of Restoration for your necklace for free bonus action heals.
To save Alfira you need to reload to a save before she visits the camp, go to her in the camp and knock her unconscious with non-lethal damage.
Then a Dragonborn Bard named Quil will turn up and die in her place.
If you cast "Protection from Evil and Good" and put on one of the Masks on the table you can get through to Ethel without fighting and seeing through the illusory traps.
That's great!
Clerics know every spell they learn for every level you can swap them out by clicking the spell book in the inventory whenever you want, I think there is also a hotkey to go straight to the spells 'K'
MONDBLOWWN!
Great video! I love seeing good Cleric gameplay.
My only “gripe”, you seem to have made Gale a follower of Oghma instead of Mystra? Odd choice, that.
Dude same, that was just a teensy bit peeving.
Thank you!,
Honestly I didn't know about this backstory when I chose it haha
🤷♀️ I’d do that on purpose just to stick it to Mystra
For an overpowered party, just do 4 party members with any decent class combo, and make room for 2 level of divination wizard for each of them. That Simple. But I agree, Clerics are S tier, and they should be played more.
Yea I've heard a tempest domain cleric combined with wizard goes off
2 levels of tempest cleric plus any class thar can get you access to lightning bolt and/ or Call lightning is enough really. Use the create water lvl1 cleric spell to make enemies wet, which doubles their damage taken from lightning and cold spells. Once per short rest, use Tempest cleric's channel oath ability to do the max possible damage with a lightning spell on wet targets.
Any full caster class (and even half casters tbh) benefits from a 1 level dip into wizard just to get scroll reading. It’s worth more than any feat and unlocks so many utility options.
@@Mike-r4h quad damage lightning and wizard dip are the worst exploits in the entire game, you shouldn't use it.
You need lava from the forge to have it work twice and check out the alchemist’s basement in the blighted village Tactician is also super easy don’t stress it’s not an overly punishing game
I tried refilling the lava but it said that the valve was stuck, I should have looked it up before continuing
@@thejury94You need to put mithral ore inside the forge first (maybe the mould too), otherwise the lava valve will not work
@@thejury94 Maybe chuck grease on it?
@@thejury94 You can go back to the act 1 area via waypoint
Yeah there’s a bug on the valve currently the only fix is reload before the grim fight :/
I hope you enjoy this video! So far this has been one of my most complex videos and I'm really happy with the outcome! Onwards and upwards.
On another note, what do you think is the strongest Class?
My fav is the wizard. You can get the divination for the lucky feat but better, you can get evocation for insane damage and avoiding friendly fire, you can get enchantment as the party's face, you can make a multiclass of Eldritch knight+abjuration, and so many others
Heh, use create water in an area before you throw lightning (or cold spells) with the tempest cleric. It doubles the damage and give electrocuted, which takes away reactions from the enemy
Finished the game a couple times now, on act 3 of my third playthrough. Shadowheart is never absent. Cleric is so, so strong. Love seeing this :)
Wizzy ball lighning, raiment, oculus is working in season 2, i couldn't get it to work season 1.
I remember doing something like this when I saw the stats that cleric was the least played class. I did a run with Main character gith, 6 tempest cleric/6 storm sorcerer, Shadowheart 12 life cleric, wyll 6 tempest cleric/ 6 storm sorcerer and karlach (Bae) 9 light cleric, 3 paladin. I focused my main on thunder damage, so even in act 1 with the brand of the absolute and the absolute ring with the thunder hammer from the inn I was doing pretty consistent thunder dmg. In act 2 you get the thunder cape, reverb condition boots and thunder trident from act 3 genie its a strong front liner, conditions etc. Then wyll was the classic lightning god, electrifying water and doing lightning dmg. Karlach had that really OP stacking lighting orbs on enemies and dispelling darkness along with her racial smites and supplemental heals she was a boss. Light cleric can solo act 2 with all those shades and stealth types and its not even close, Shadowheart barely had any healing to do. Everyone rocking medium or above armor they worked very well together and it made sense to just focus on on type of damage for each of them. Thunder for main, lightning for wyll, radiant for karlach and healbot for shadowheart. The full cleric run was pretty easy even on tactician IMO.
Impressive!
I think the reason the forge didn't work is because you didn't have the lava flowing again.
The lava wasn't working, it kept saying it was stuck 🤷
a party of 11 cleric 1 wiz can’t be touched
life light tempest war gg
I might do that in my next run
@@thejury94 this is the first game I have done more than 2 runs ever lol I’m on 4 I need help gah haha
@@Bossanovawitcha it's a good game though! And there is something new every time
@@thejury94 yh it’s the best ever
There's some mercenaries in the grymforge that you can convince to fight with you against Nere. One of the sorry buggers managed to shove Nere into the lava and I couldn't loot him or take his head. Had to reload and try again and I swear, he kept running right up to the edge of the lava pit for some reason. I literally had to use all of Karlach's turns constantly shoving him away from the damn pit.
oh that's annoying!
Looks like a fun run! Clerics rock. Lol all those spirit weapons and everyone in lawn mower (spirit guardians) mode! Nothing beats armored spell casters! Looking forward to your Act II adventures!
Also, with all that wisdom I bet you never miss a perception check.
I don't think I have yet.
Early BG3 no one wanted to play cleric because Shadoeheart is a mainstay in the majority of playthroughs.
Now everyone realised Tempest and Light clerics are two of the best classes in the game.
4 Gloomstalkers with Alert.
I played a Cleric on my first playthrough of Baldurs Gate 3, romanced Shadowheart on my second run, and then played as Shadowheart on my third run, Cleric is so good and imo one is required in every party.
Agreed!
Clerics, Bards, Druids, and Paladins are top tier.
I've played a bit of a bard, but no Pal or Druid yet, I might have to give them a go!
Your mileage may vary. I started this with my daughter multiplayer where we each run two characters. We made each origin character a cleric as well as our custom characters. We struggled in combats with larger numbers of opponents at lower levels after running out of spells, even with the unlimited cantrips. Tempest and Light clerics were fine with creature control, up until the spell slots were gone. Trickster clerics are only good for buffs, in my experience, up to the point they get hit and lose concentration. Still working though the game though, and we'll see how higher levels go.
Yea the lack of useful cantrips makes it difficult. Long rest as much as you can to get those spell slots up.
I laughed so hard at "Shallag? we're going to go with shallag. it's "Sheh-Lay-Lee"
Yes... as a half Irish, half Scottish man, my heart flipped upside down and exploded into pieces at the pronunciation...
dark urge is the canon protag, they just didn't communicate that too well.
such an interesting story
For my latest tactician playthrough I swapped Shadowheart from Trickery to life domain cleric with additional heals and resist buffs coming from 3 of her equipment pieces, it made encounters where you're swarmed that much more manageable.
The first time I used Spirit guardians I was amazed, in my first run I didn't use it for so long and it would have been so useful in act 2
I think that thematically you could use
Astarion - Trickery with Tymora
Gale - Knowledge with Mystra (or Oghma if Gale is feeling a bit angry at Mystra)
Karlach - War with Tempus
Lae'zel - also war with Vlaakith, later either tempest with Talos or war with Tempus
Shadowheart Trickery with Shar, later Life (or if modded Twilight) with Selune
Wyll - Trickery with Asmodeus (if possible), later with Tymora or Oghma
True, but I like chaos
I’ve never seen shadowheart hit more in my life. Especially with guiding bolt
had her glasses on this time
this came on in the background and i thought it was a video from someone with a few hundred thousand subscribers, i was surprised to see this only has 598 views, the video is very well made!
Thanks so much!!!
Aaah yes. The Minotaurs of the underdark. Thas when i really learned the power of grease bottles in this game. They both didnt get one turn done, and i was just level 3 at the time.
Bro what were you even doing there at level 3 😂
That's impressive at level 3
I really like the warcaster feat on my cleric, my con saving throws are through the roof! Don’t sleep on it!
Ill keep it in mind for the next feat
A whole party with various spells, good healing and good CA. No wonder why it's strong.
super strong!
My main character is trickery cleric, the least played class with least played subclass. Its OP af. You get disguise self wich allows you to allways be disguised with no cost, or effort. Because pritty early in the game you can get a ring to get A Flat +4 ON EVERY FUCKING ROLL. On top of that you get blessing which is an aditional d4 on every check. And when you make the first level in rouge you will get a ton of proviciancys. You can steal everything and basicly have jedi powers... Its so insane
oooo seems fun
I rolled cleric first play through and was shocked when I heard it's the least played class. Cleric is a beast.
SO true!
... The Alfira incident made me play the "good guy path"
Seriously was not expecting that!
I've heard that tempest clerics are weak before, so I went ahead to hack it out and honestly I think they might be one of the strongest clesic subclasses
Yea they are by far the strongest
A group of all Clerics?
It’s the A-Men!
Official name
There's actually a way to even the odds against nere and I only found it in my 5th playthrough. I fucking LOVE this game
I'll have to search for it
I am so stocked with the performance of this video, and I am glad that you are enjoying it! Thank you for watching and supporting the channel! Its pushing me to get act 2 out ASAP!
Thank you all!
Cleric is indeed sneakingly overpowered, also when multiclassing.
Honestly a sleeper class
Hint: You can easily steal the sword from the devil in the tutorial if you use the Command spell (used by MC or Shadowheart) on them and choose "drop weapon".
But I love my War Domain cleric, going 5 levels into fighter helps a lot, giving you the extra attack and action surge compliments the war priest extra attacks. Downside is you miss out on all the sweet late game spells, and on tabletop, that's pretty damn heartbreaking when you realize you could have been casting Temple Of The Gods by level 13.
I'm torn about multiclassing, If the level cap was 20 I would consider it, but only 12 levels feels so limiting.
Liked and Subbed!, This was my plan after completing my Multiplayer run through on stream. Looking forward to the next stream.
Thanks pal :)
imo, clerics are one of the most versatile classes in dnd (other than fighter, which has more versatility than i know what to do with.) you can go for pure healing, big damage, non-healing support, debuffs, etc etc. my current group has two clerics (tempest and death domains) and it's worked out great for us so far.
So many spells to choose from!
Agree, only druid is more versatile
People didn't play as a cleric because shadowheart is already a cleric and she's the most popular companion. Clerics are a top tier class especially tempest cleric
Yea its really hard to look past Shadowheart
This man said "Tactics??? Having 4 clerics IS the tactic!!"
Its god tier
great run! Really Interesting decission to go for
Thanks!
My current party is lvl 3. I am a Light Cleric, Gale is Wiz 1 & Tempest Cleric 2, Wyll is Warlock 1 & Life Cleric 2 (and his next level will be Ancients Paladin) and Astarion is Rogue 1 & Ranger 2 (will be gloom stalker). It’s a pretty good mix so far :)
that sounds awesome!
The game didn’t glitch, you forgot to turn on the lava again, it is now needed to forge.
The lava valve wasn't working, just kept saying it was stuck
My first full play through I was a dwarf life domain cleric lol
Nice!
Who in your party could raise zombies?
The whole party has the spell
Spirit guard with sanctuary and then your spirit weapons. No one can target your characters 😂
Basically!
Fighter class, great weapon adept, great sword equipped. I was attacking 7-8 times off one turn with one person. Op asf
Shillelagh - Shil-AY'-lee. Irish word. Cudgel/walking stick
I love this idea but wondering if I can re-spec everyone as Oath Breaker Paladins for a Durge run
The challenge is trying to keep them from becoming oathbreakers
I had no idea that you could respec everyone. This is turning out to be a great party comp for me!
I wonder what other crazy comps we can come up with
shoud have callem your party "the A-Men!"
This has come up a few times, so it may just happen.
This is a very interesting build for all companions, I want to try this thx for the video :3
Glad you enjoyed it :)
"Seriously without versatile and independently strong you can build a Cleric you can make up an entire party full of purely priests call it 'The A-MEN' and bust down Tiamat's door demanding her lunch money, and she would just build her own toilet to give herself swirlies so she wouldn't have to endure the kind of bullying you're about to give her." -JoCat
23:45 you need to heat up the forge again for it to work
The valve wouldn't work, just kept saying it was stuck 😅
@@thejury94 aaah, k i you were pressing the hammer in the vid so I thought you may have forgotten the valve
@@andronixbegayaf yea I realized after so many people have pointed it out I should have shown me trying to get the valve to work haha
Glad you found clerics to be so awesome but I'm bored with them tried creating one bored I don't even bring shadowheart in my party
ahh thats fair.
This is such a fun video! Well done!
Thank you!
Gale not being a knowledge domain cleric of Mystra, AND Astarion not being a cleric of Talos, are just lore wise bad decisions
Oof I HAVE made some mistakes haha, I didn't even think about that.
@thejury94 I mean it's not really important for the main point of the video, which is still pretty gr8
@@kfiraltberger552 I appreciate it friend :)
@0:09 Me! I always go support if it's an option. I've even puzzled over Cleric vs. Paladin as to which would be the best healer/support.
I'm thinking of playing as a Solidarity Domain Cleric if I ever get the chance.
I don't know much about that domain, I'll have to give it a go too
My party consists of gale necro wizard, shadowheart light cleric, astarion storm cleric and myself as the gloomstalker ranger… they all have raise dead and its been awhile since anyone has been downed or lost hp.. loads of fun, i have astarion as a storm sorc cleric so he can nullify AoE spells to the party.. love the synergy when a single splash of water covers a room just to electrocute everyone in it, then freeze it soon after.. and then we unleash the zombie hordes while everything is prone 😆
That sounds like an awesome combo!
When Gale died in the lava you could've use a revive scroll to revive him in a different spot!
I only figured out I could do this in act 3 😵
My shadowheart is powding everyone with good medium armor and a magical halberd
Shes the boss
Clerics are so busted. I played a Wizard and dipped two of his levels into Tempest cleric just for funsies and it was maybe the best decisions I could’ve made. Also my favorite build in the game is easily 5 levels War cleric, 5 levels Paladin, and the last two levels are flexible
I need to try that Paladin Cleric build