U made an excellent commentary. U shattered all of the myths in one episode. Congratulations. Hip-Hop is purely an #FBA creation. It's an extension of Black American music. Blues, R&B, Rock n Roll, Soul, Be-Bop, Funk, Disco, and lastly "Hip-Hop". How's that even being debated? 💪🏾
@@bangswift bronx aint no island, ppl move in same circles in bronx, philly, chicago, detroit , L.A & hiphop started in all these places bc of SOUL TRAIN we not from no huts 🛖 on a small island 😂
This amazing ! I’ve read books about this; black American have been doing this since their time on the plantations, but hearing Louis Jordan really brings it home for me
My problem with the Jamaican thing is…they are using black American linguistics and vernacular to describe this music…..RAP IS A BLACK AMERICAN TERM….nobody in Jamaica used the word Rap, because they never did it!
When Hip Hop was invented the racial discrimination against black Americans was so much in the Latino community the Puerto Ricans would never embrace Black Americans culture, and until this day there’s still an underlying racism from the Latino community,,,, Respect FBA culture 🇯🇲👊🏾
The Dr Colonizer is in his feelings. He thinks he’s the only historian and researcher on hip hop. Who’s gonna believe a Dr Colonizer when he’s not showing any true receipts?
Great video! Keep putting them on blast. It's hard to believe that people would actually get in front of a camera and lie with a straight face. What's even more amazing to me is that they still haven't figured out that the most dangerous thing to any false narrative is a camera and a microphone. When you examine Caribbean immigrant culture prior to having contact with FBA, and after, you clearly see who influenced who.
Excellent rebuttal of the lies and myths brother! Continue exposing these liars and thieves. Hip Hop is a Black American cultural creation. Period. Our DNA and fingerprints are all over Hip Hop origins and current incarnations.
Akiem you misquoted something jamaican sound systems came from America clement coxones dodd said on a documentary that as you also pointed out is that the entire jamaican culture is black American culture clement coxones dodd said jamaican culture is black American culture and that when he use to work the fields when he came to America for work he use to buy all the black American records and send them back to Jamaica and he also copied the jukebox from America and created the first jamaican sound system from copying the American jukebox in the black juke clubs in Florida good work my brother keep FBA alive always peace
Absolutely, I was going to add in more stuff about the audio equipment building... I do think its fair to say that Jamaicans eventually built their own culture - but it is very clearly built on a foundation laid down by Black America. And the main point is there is absolutely nothing like that in reverse.
Soundsystem culture existed in Jamaica from the 50s Mr Dodd was not the first person to build a Soundsystem the first to build a Soundsystem in Jamaica was a Chinese man by the name Tom the great Sebastian ok in the 50 there was no Soundsystem culture in America so get your history correct jukebox is not a Soundsystem and can never equal to a Soundsystem Mr Dodd followed American culture but the original sound men from Jamaica built tube amps themselves
colon is not even a musician, is he? Doesn't know much about black American culture. I'll tell you that so he has nothing to say... black americans used sound system too
He's really showing how ridiculously he is, and I've got history. When it comes to hip-hop and other forms of music let alone like American culture which has nothing to do with anybody else's stuff people keep talking about even the white influence whyife was separated from us. They didn't want anything to do with us. They hated even the music now that they're championing and look at arguments because evil and immature and not intelligent. Now they're making money off of it. This doctor colon sounds like all of the other. White a few skunk bags that have made disparaging things about black Americans. He's a very ignorant person and his reaching is obvious.
Dr.Colon documentary is myth making these stories up bout the Jamaican sound hear to influenced hip hop but, the black radio djs were the first to us two turntable in the 1940s. Than 65 Grandmaster Flowers was the first city mixer to mix records together in sequence and first dj that open up for James Brown at Yankees Stadium back n 68.
@@randee4550 Obviously it was the black radio station that wanted his services, the biggest radio station in the black community was WWRL AM. He might've been young but Brown didn't have that type of vision having a 14 year old kid playing on stage with him so they have to work rock the clock so he played it in the broadcasting booth spinning records between the act.
@donaldmccall3968 He's talking about a 14 year old sharing a stage with James Brown, but has no problem believing that a 12 year old Herc brought his sound system idea and Jamaican influence with him, to create Hip Hop! 🙄🙄🙄
@randee4550 YOU ARE JUST ITCHING TO GET YOUR ASS WHIPPED, AND I AM THE RIGHT ONE TO GRANT THAT WISH! YOU KEEP DISRESPECTING ME, CALLING ME MALIK AND REFERRING TO ME AS A MAN! IF YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT I AM MALIK OR EVEN A MAN, THEN WHY DIDN'T YOU ADDRESS MY COMMENT ABOUT MEETING ME AND MY HUSBAND, IN THE FLESH! I CAN PROMISE YOU THIS, I WILL SEE YOU AROUND BRONXDALE, AND WHEN I MAKE THE INTRODUCTION, IF YOU WALK AWAY, YOU WILL BE AS TIGHT- LIPPED AS YOU WERE WHEN BATCH TOLD YOU AND COLON THAT HIP HOP IS A BLACK AMERICAN CREATION! IM GONNA TELL YOU LIKE I TOLD RANDOM FLAVOR, WHO ACTUALLY KNOWS THAT I AM A FEMALE, I WANT YOU TO CONTINUE TALKING! YOU AND I BOTH KNOW THAT THE BRONX IS NOT THAT BIG! I CANNOT WAIT FOR YOU TO FIND OUT WHO ME AND MY HUSBAND ARE!
@@chinablack9790 Burh, I watch interview and Herc never said that he brought the sound system from Jamaica. Flowers was blending records before Herc step foot on American soil.
@@donaldmccall3968 You didn't get my reply to you. I was agreeing with you and responding to what @Randee said. He said he didn't believe that a 14 year old Flowers could share a stage with James Brown, but he believes that 12 year old Herc brought the idea of the Jamaican sound system with him and created Hip Hop!
Rap actually came from Hambone which was used as entertainment by AMERICAN slaves. We knew nothing about Jamaica at the time or Puerto Rico. Hambone was specific to the deep south, Mississippi in particular. It's funny because now they are trying to say that Hispanics influenced Blues and jazz and were pioneers of Rock and roll. I saw this coming a mile away when the media kept inserting Black and Brown into our issues. Years before, they were trying to get Herc to say Hip Hop was influenced by Jamaican music, To his credit, he admitted that he conformed to our culture. They have been playing the long game. Colon is a liar. I can't fathom why people are even taking him seriously. He's been debunked and humiliated several times. Where was the Jamaican and Puerto Rican influence when there were no Jamaican or Puerto Rican originators of ANY of the elements?
Yes sir, Pattin Juba - I was considering going into that when it comes to these outlandish claims about Black folks having no rhythms and percussion and instruments because drums being "outlawed" (which is overblown too). There is a lot more information in books than online...
That’s false Hip Hop has nothing to do with that. Y’all be coming across TH-cam videos and think something is connected because it looks similar to you.
New subscriber here💯. Thank you and to all the others who are bringing scholarship to this subject. @10:17 is a straight checkmate. DJ culture was also in the South during the time it was in NY.
This is another classic bruh these people need to sit down. You showed footage that I haven't seen and I know for a fact that his video was debunked YEARS before he put it out 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Jamaicans DID NOT establish sound system culture. That is another lie. Jamaicans git their sound sytem culture from FBAs. There is documentation of this. Jamaican pioneers/elders on film ate stating where they got it from.
Jamacians and Puerto Ricans dont and have never gotten along enmass. Some isolated pockets of them hanging together, but when Jamacians have their functions, sound clashes you never see any Latinos at the parties.
@AKiEM Great informative video bro. In my opinion, the Hip-hop story has many holes and contradictions. For one, The founders of hip-hop saying that the b-boys were the foundation of hip-hop. After 1984, Black people in NYC moved on to the Wop and other freestyling types of dance. Dancer's like Kid N Play, Scoob N Scrap(Big daddy Kane dancers) brought in the freestyling dancing style. How could B-Boyn be the foundation of a Music genre? I believe that, this narrative was created to remove Black american culture out of the conversation. That would cut out the influence of Flower's, Pete Dj Jones, Dj Hollywood and Other's. The hip-hop story has Herc and other Bronx Dj's in a Bubble by themselves. After we et the record straight about hip-hop being an entirely Black American thing, we have to go back and debate and change the hip-hop story.
Right. I think there was some moving apart between BK and BX, age groups, style etc - but not to the level people are claiming. Another thing like that is the claim that "breaking" was all a media creation. But yes the dancing never stopped and never just stayed as bboying - all them Hip-Hop dances just continued on...
It’s documented Coxsone Dodd, a JA Pioneer got The sound system idea from the USA. He said it himself bro. Other than that, this was a great presentation👍🏾
I think it’s fair to say Jamaican established a sound system culture - but they clearly were not the only or even first - I think the vid makes that point - I was going to go into all the radio shortwave schematics hobbyists and loudspeaker companies around the world, but it was going to be too much. They had their own culture BA was still its foundation
@@AKiEM. So what did they bring to hip hop culture?One many in cool herc doesn't mean all Jamaicans.He was Americanized by black Americans culture period
@paimei1651 dreads are from africa? You just making shit up. That's an aborigine thing from all over the planet, but predominately in the Americas. Not just some jamacians
@@mikejones-wn1sw While the hairstyle is very old and may be worn by many cultures all over the planet, the oldest archaeological evidence of dreadlocks comes from Africa.
@@paimei1651 you just making shit up. You just promote a out of africa theory. This very day there isn't a large population of africans with dreads. But so shitz and giggles. Show us how this first dreadlock came from africa
@@DrDerrickColon ain't shit from africa that doesn't sound african. Kill that bullshit. You don't see any African MC, or Drum player or guitar player or lyricist. You see immigrants cosplaying Foundational Black Americans aka Aborigines of America. Corny azz latino, most don't even know what it means, he'll neither do you. But this is what our music is you claim you had hand in and some random africans and carribeans which is a damn lie. Indigenous pop: native american music from jazz to hip hop creates a forum for the interdisciplinary discussion of popular music performed and created by American Indian musicians. In addition to examining the influence of popular musical forms from blues, jazz, country western, rock, folk, punk, reggae, and hip hop on Indigenous expressive forms, our contributors similarly note the ways that the various genres have been shaped by what some have called the “Red Roots” of American-originated musical stylesMost reservation agents and boarding school superintendents associated what they called “Indian music” with “savagery,”
DISCO IS A MADE UP WORD TO CATORGORIZE DANCE MUSIC WE DANCED TO YOTEMPO FUNK AND RB DISCO IS RB MUSIC ON ANOTHER LEVEL GEARED MORE TO MAKING YOU CONTINUOUSLY MOVE TO THE BEAT CORPORARIONS NAMED IT DISCO
@@AlleKat That's a half truth. Every single club that exists with a DJ set-up is a Discotech. So by the very definition Of the Word all club DJ'S are Disco DJ'S. Then if you listen to the Original Disco Music Genre made by FBA'S it literally is just sped up RnB. Whatever the village people do doesn't really count because White people usually change the sound of OUR MUSIC every time they try to copy it. No matter what music from Jazz to Trap they usually make it sound worse. That's why we always left it alone once they get to involved.
@@lroyjetsonson5060 Disco was a genre of music that was around in the late 1970s,it was started by a white dj named manusco in nyc,Disco music was so bad that i would bet money that it was the reason hiphop became so popular.Listen to donna summers song "I Feel Love" and imagine having to hear this 10 times a day on the radio.
Hip Hop is in Black People's DNA pull up old footage from the 1940s and 50s we were doing floor work and rhyming back then Cab Callaway was doing the call and response back then something we do today
Battling is different from a soundclash is more brutal we dont play music you can buy in a shop we build dubplates we go to the artist and voice specials so you can't compare battling to a soundclash its very different
Puerto Ricans, like Dominicans and Cubans, are part of the Afro-diaspora. They are an African-heritage-based people as well as having Taíno (the indigenous people who resided on the island of Borikén) and European (Spanish) heritages. So are they black, or not? Yes and no. They are a distinct people who tend to have three races coursing through them. Yet historically they have shared a more profound relationship with African Americans, especially in New York, than with any other group in the U.S. This is due to the fact that they and blacks share certain specifics that are based on Kongo/Bantu cultural traits that stress music, dance and wordplay. African Americans and Puerto Ricans have tended to share the same low-income socio-economic status and all that it entails. Culturally, Puerto Ricans have grooved on jazz and r&b sounds, while blacks have taken to salsa and gotten down with 1960s Puerto Rican "soul music," bugalú, or "boogaloo." The exchange that fueled hiphop was between African-American, Puerto Rican and Afro-Caribbean youths. When hiphop became commercially viable, it was defined strictly as a black music form. The demands of "authenticity" thus forced New York Rican rappers to decide if they were black to the exclusion of being Puerto Rican. If they are Puerto Rican, they are relegated to categories like "tropical rap," "rap en español," or "Latino hip hop." The contributions of New York Ricans have either been downplayed or ignored. "And when their presence has been acknowledged," writes Rivera, "frequently it has been misinterpreted as a defection from Puerto Rican culture and identity, into the African American camp."
Your comment here is called an appeal to authority (one which you did not credit) There is nothing here which speaks to anything I said in my video and you do not have any point to go with it. It is false that the media somehow branded HH as Black American music form - it literally simply was a Black American music form which was recognized quite easily as being Black culture because it was - it was obviously part of our culture - we recognized it through the country as such. Now, if everything else in this comment is true then Puerto Ricans should have no problem admitting they assimilated into North American Culture while many PR youth assimilated into Black American Culture.
Hip hop culture and music are primarily of Black American origin, but they were significantly influenced by Caribbean American culture. The roots of hip hop can be traced back to the 1970s in the Bronx, New York City, a melting pot of diverse cultures and ethnicities. Key aspects of hip hop include: DJing and Turntablism: Innovated by DJ Kool Herc, who was born in Jamaica and moved to the Bronx. He introduced the concept of "breaking" or "breakbeat" DJing, where the most danceable sections of songs (breaks) were isolated and repeated. Rapping: While rapping has deeper roots in African American culture, its rhythmic and lyrical styles were also influenced by Caribbean forms of toasting and dub music, popular in Jamaican music. Breakdancing: This element developed in the urban communities of New York and reflects a synthesis of various dance traditions, including those from African and Caribbean cultures. Graffiti Art: Originating in Philadelphia and New York, graffiti became a significant part of the visual expression of hip hop culture, developed by youth from diverse ethnic backgrounds. Beatboxing: An art form primarily developed within African American communities, emulating percussion sounds using the mouth, lips, tongue, and voice. In summary, while hip hop's core development took place within African American communities, it was undoubtedly shaped by Caribbean American influences, creating a rich, hybrid culture that encompasses various musical, dance, and artistic traditions.
@@AKiEM. I've had full out conversations with A.I... It said that it makes mistakes but the percentile is less than 2% after I asked it a series of questions.
@@Rio-uv1gs it said Kool Herc invented “breaking” It’s not wrong, but it is repeating a popular myth which has been debunked. Ask it exactly who, brought exactly what cultural technique, what year from Jamaica. What it’s doing is vague repeating people who are wrong. And it tries to be culturally sensitive and inclusive. People come on here all the time with vague notions and no actual precise facts.
Jamaicans didn’t pioneer dreads!! All cultures rocked dreads since antiquity. If you wanna keep it real the Yogi’s in India are the ones that kept the tradition going before the Rasta’s!!
I forgot about the Ethiopians that refused to cut their hair and let it lock while fighting the Italians before WW2. The Rastas got locs from the Ethiopians
Secondly, I have challenged the following people to a live debate: Truth saviour, Dj Phase, You, Tariq Nasheed, BSIA, none of you want the smoke. You hide behind keyboards. So let me know when you want to debate. All of you have declined.
Well I cant speak for anyone else, and you are feeling yourself. I have not declined and this is the third or fourth time I am telling you the same thing - I will come on your live when I am convinced there will be no types of funny business bs. You are not an honest broker of information. When you set that straight I will show up. I asked you for a premise, a statement, a topic. You answered "hip-hop" ... you will need to provide a proper topic prior to me showing up. From what I understand, you were invited to be in TNs documentary but declined - so you should already understand the issues at hand - in fact I consider it to be hypocritical to try and make a case out of me not willing to come on your live - YET. Nobody is hiding behind a keyboard 😂 Now, you have waisted your comment here. You could have easily tried to support your claim of Kid Creole being the first MC, or any other points I have made, theres plenty.
@@DrDerrickColon I have not declined and this is the fifth or sixth time I am telling you the same thing - I will come on your live when I am convinced there will be no types of funny business bs. You are not an honest broker of information. When you set that straight I will show up. do you understand what these words mean?
Jamicians established the big speakers in UK not here we already had big speakers, two turntables and microphones... And Jamicians got that from us as well according to their pioneers.. And Black Americans been rapping since the 1920's.. The Jubaliars rapping in the 40's fuk they mean we didn't start rapping until the 80's lol...
Um dreads is a part of Black culture and dreads didn't start in Jamaica lol.. There isn't a Black ethnic group rather it's FBA or Black people from other countries that doesn't have dreads or braids in the culture we know that didn't come from Puerto Ricans either.. And who is June Bug just making up names... And this is how you know these other groups really are the ones with no culture.. Puerto-Stinkens simply just copied what they saw us doing..
FBAs ain't never listened to no damn Reggae! Or no damn Salsa! and was intrigued by that sound for what? When were the creators of Rock & Roll, Gospal , Jazz, Rhythm & Blues and Hip-Hop.
COLON IS ALWAYS IN BLACK CULTURE BUSINESS.
Somebody better tell Christopher Columbus Colon that we can do this all day.
ALL DAY ❤
😂😂
U made an excellent commentary. U shattered all of the myths in one episode. Congratulations.
Hip-Hop is purely an #FBA creation. It's an extension of Black American music. Blues, R&B, Rock n Roll, Soul, Be-Bop, Funk, Disco, and lastly "Hip-Hop". How's that even being debated? 💪🏾
100% Colon wasn't even thought about in the creation of Hip-hop! He has done absolutely nothing for Hip-hop!
Let's see I was a writer, B.Boy, and an Emcee. I have been there since 75. 8 years old. Boogie down Bronx. Echo Place, Echo Park, South Bronx.
u again Colon🤦🏽♀️
is this really about ya pockets being empty if the truth come out??
u always look nervous & shook when u on camera , poor thing 😂
I can't believe we in a Tug of War about something we created with a Culture Vulture unbreakable
The difference is Colon was there he from that era in the Bx and Tariq is an outsider but yall going to believe the outsider 😂😂
@@bangswift bronx aint no island, ppl move in same circles in bronx, philly, chicago, detroit , L.A & hiphop started in all these places bc of SOUL TRAIN
we not from no huts 🛖 on a small island 😂
This amazing ! I’ve read books about this; black American have been doing this since their time on the plantations, but hearing Louis Jordan really brings it home for me
Louis Jordan is excellence and criminally less known than he should be. That clip is so dope to me…
This the guy who claimed Disco King Mario was half Puerto Rican because his Mama named him Mario. He is not serious and should not be taken serious!
My problem with the Jamaican thing is…they are using black American linguistics and vernacular to describe this music…..RAP IS A BLACK AMERICAN TERM….nobody in Jamaica used the word Rap, because they never did it!
He standing up there using all black mannerism, he needs to sit down, why do he think that us black americans would listen to anything he says"?
PREACH ❤
When Hip Hop was invented the racial discrimination against black Americans was so much in the Latino community the Puerto Ricans would never embrace Black Americans culture, and until this day there’s still an underlying racism from the Latino community,,,, Respect FBA culture 🇯🇲👊🏾
The Dr Colonizer is in his feelings. He thinks he’s the only historian and researcher on hip hop. Who’s gonna believe a Dr Colonizer when he’s not showing any true receipts?
You caught it just more talk with no evidence to prove their point / claim nothing more then just lip service
His feelings is his receipts 😂
@@badseedent4827 😂
Other liars like him will believe it
Great video! Keep putting them on blast. It's hard to believe that people would actually get in front of a camera and lie with a straight face. What's even more amazing to me is that they still haven't figured out that the most dangerous thing to any false narrative is a camera and a microphone. When you examine Caribbean immigrant culture prior to having contact with FBA, and after, you clearly see who influenced who.
Solute to Tarqi for making this documentary, so expose how fake he really is.
Excellent rebuttal of the lies and myths brother! Continue exposing these liars and thieves. Hip Hop is a Black American cultural creation. Period. Our DNA and fingerprints are all over Hip Hop origins and current incarnations.
Rite on, 👊🏾i can't claim this new breed stuff tho 😂
@@grandkhanonizegypt I agree with that! 🤫😁
Lord Jamar was born in the Bronx. He moved to the suburbs after he already witnessed Hip-hop in the Bronx.
Facts!.. I heard LJ say he was born in the Bx when he had Raheem and Theodore as guests.
I’ve got a different issue with LJ, but that’s a different topic…
@@AKiEM. Did he do something foul?
@@lroyjetsonson5060 he turned flat earther… close enough imo.
@@AKiEM. I heard that Bullshxt. But I can't call it.
Akiem you misquoted something jamaican sound systems came from America clement coxones dodd said on a documentary that as you also pointed out is that the entire jamaican culture is black American culture clement coxones dodd said jamaican culture is black American culture and that when he use to work the fields when he came to America for work he use to buy all the black American records and send them back to Jamaica and he also copied the jukebox from America and created the first jamaican sound system from copying the American jukebox in the black juke clubs in Florida good work my brother keep FBA alive always peace
Absolutely, I was going to add in more stuff about the audio equipment building... I do think its fair to say that Jamaicans eventually built their own culture - but it is very clearly built on a foundation laid down by Black America. And the main point is there is absolutely nothing like that in reverse.
Soundsystem culture existed in Jamaica from the 50s Mr Dodd was not the first person to build a Soundsystem the first to build a Soundsystem in Jamaica was a Chinese man by the name Tom the great Sebastian ok in the 50 there was no Soundsystem culture in America so get your history correct jukebox is not a Soundsystem and can never equal to a Soundsystem Mr Dodd followed American culture but the original sound men from Jamaica built tube amps themselves
colon is not even a musician, is he? Doesn't know much about black American culture. I'll tell you that so he has nothing to say... black americans used sound system too
yeah he took a couple pictures in the 70's and thinks hes an expert
HES a phony trying to sell books.
@@tbone8730facts! He’s an expert at spreading lies, myths and false narratives.
He's really showing how ridiculously he is, and I've got history. When it comes to hip-hop and other forms of music let alone like American culture which has nothing to do with anybody else's stuff people keep talking about even the white influence whyife was separated from us. They didn't want anything to do with us. They hated even the music now that they're championing and look at arguments because evil and immature and not intelligent. Now they're making money off of it. This doctor colon sounds like all of the other. White a few skunk bags that have made disparaging things about black Americans. He's a very ignorant person and his reaching is obvious.
Notice how this dude keeps changes his story
Great work my brother
Dr.Colon documentary is myth making these stories up bout the Jamaican sound hear to influenced hip hop but, the black radio djs were the first to us two turntable in the 1940s. Than 65 Grandmaster Flowers was the first city mixer to mix records together in sequence and first dj that open up for James Brown at Yankees Stadium back n 68.
@@randee4550 Obviously it was the black radio station that wanted his services, the biggest radio station in the black community was WWRL AM. He might've been young but Brown didn't have that type of vision having a 14 year old kid playing on stage with him so they have to work rock the clock so he played it in the broadcasting booth spinning records between the act.
@donaldmccall3968 He's talking about a 14 year old sharing a stage with James Brown, but has no problem believing that a 12 year old Herc brought his sound system idea and Jamaican influence with him, to create Hip Hop! 🙄🙄🙄
@randee4550 YOU ARE JUST ITCHING TO GET YOUR ASS WHIPPED, AND I AM THE RIGHT ONE TO GRANT THAT WISH! YOU KEEP DISRESPECTING ME, CALLING ME MALIK AND REFERRING TO ME AS A MAN! IF YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT I AM MALIK OR EVEN A MAN, THEN WHY DIDN'T YOU ADDRESS MY COMMENT ABOUT MEETING ME AND MY HUSBAND, IN THE FLESH! I CAN PROMISE YOU THIS, I WILL SEE YOU AROUND BRONXDALE, AND WHEN I MAKE THE INTRODUCTION, IF YOU WALK AWAY, YOU WILL BE AS TIGHT- LIPPED AS YOU WERE WHEN BATCH TOLD YOU AND COLON THAT HIP HOP IS A BLACK AMERICAN CREATION! IM GONNA TELL YOU LIKE I TOLD RANDOM FLAVOR, WHO ACTUALLY KNOWS THAT I AM A FEMALE, I WANT YOU TO CONTINUE TALKING! YOU AND I BOTH KNOW THAT THE BRONX IS NOT THAT BIG! I CANNOT WAIT FOR YOU TO FIND OUT WHO ME AND MY HUSBAND ARE!
@@chinablack9790 Burh, I watch interview and Herc never said that he brought the sound system from Jamaica. Flowers was blending records before Herc step foot on American soil.
@@donaldmccall3968 You didn't get my reply to you. I was agreeing with you and responding to what @Randee said. He said he didn't believe that a 14 year old Flowers could share a stage with James Brown, but he believes that 12 year old Herc brought the idea of the Jamaican sound system with him and created Hip Hop!
Rap actually came from Hambone which was used as entertainment by AMERICAN slaves. We knew nothing about Jamaica at the time or Puerto Rico. Hambone was specific to the deep south, Mississippi in particular. It's funny because now they are trying to say that Hispanics influenced Blues and jazz and were pioneers of Rock and roll. I saw this coming a mile away when the media kept inserting Black and Brown into our issues. Years before, they were trying to get Herc to say Hip Hop was influenced by Jamaican music, To his credit, he admitted that he conformed to our culture. They have been playing the long game. Colon is a liar. I can't fathom why people are even taking him seriously. He's been debunked and humiliated several times. Where was the Jamaican and Puerto Rican influence when there were no Jamaican or Puerto Rican originators of ANY of the elements?
Yes sir, Pattin Juba - I was considering going into that when it comes to these outlandish claims about Black folks having no rhythms and percussion and instruments because drums being "outlawed" (which is overblown too). There is a lot more information in books than online...
Rap actually came from the Dozens, which also has its origins back in slavery.
@@everlast9901 Uh, yeah.
That’s false Hip Hop has nothing to do with that. Y’all be coming across TH-cam videos and think something is connected because it looks similar to you.
@@thedude9220 According to who? You? Our culture was not influenced by you nor co-created. That's a proven fact.
Hispanic people bold telling us about our culture
ABSOLUTELY 💯 BOLD AF!
This was very well done.
Give it up colon the truth is out there!
We need Mr. Colon to leave us alone.
New subscriber here💯. Thank you and to all the others who are bringing scholarship to this subject. @10:17 is a straight checkmate. DJ culture was also in the South during the time it was in NY.
Sure was!
facts!
This is another classic bruh these people need to sit down. You showed footage that I haven't seen and I know for a fact that his video was debunked YEARS before he put it out 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Jamaicans DID NOT establish sound system culture. That is another lie. Jamaicans git their sound sytem culture from FBAs. There is documentation of this. Jamaican pioneers/elders on film ate stating where they got it from.
There was never any sound system culture in the US.
This was excellent 👏🏿, man great work.
First off we had the better sound sustems we HAD ALL THE CLUBS IN 6Ps and THE 70s. NYC DJs been playing and mixes with two rurn tables
I feel so proud watching this video.
Jamacians and Puerto Ricans dont and have never gotten along enmass. Some isolated pockets of them hanging together, but when Jamacians have their functions, sound clashes you never see any Latinos at the parties.
@AKiEM Great informative video bro. In my opinion, the Hip-hop story has many holes and contradictions. For one, The founders of hip-hop saying that the b-boys were the foundation of hip-hop. After 1984, Black people in NYC moved on to the Wop and other freestyling types of dance. Dancer's like Kid N Play, Scoob N Scrap(Big daddy Kane dancers) brought in the freestyling dancing style. How could B-Boyn be the foundation of a Music genre? I believe that, this narrative was created to remove Black american culture out of the conversation. That would cut out the influence of Flower's, Pete Dj Jones, Dj Hollywood and Other's. The hip-hop story has Herc and other Bronx Dj's in a Bubble by themselves. After we et the record straight about hip-hop being an entirely Black American thing, we have to go back and debate and change the hip-hop story.
Right. I think there was some moving apart between BK and BX, age groups, style etc - but not to the level people are claiming. Another thing like that is the claim that "breaking" was all a media creation. But yes the dancing never stopped and never just stayed as bboying - all them Hip-Hop dances just continued on...
Bro u got that wrong,the sound system didn't come from Jamaica at all
It’s documented Coxsone Dodd, a JA Pioneer got The sound system idea from the USA. He said it himself bro.
Other than that, this was a great presentation👍🏾
@@FBA_AllTHEWAY Yes of course he did.FBAs created everything that's revelent period
The sound system schematics came from USA according Sir Coxsone Dodd
I think it’s fair to say Jamaican established a sound system culture - but they clearly were not the only or even first - I think the vid makes that point - I was going to go into all the radio shortwave schematics hobbyists and loudspeaker companies around the world, but it was going to be too much. They had their own culture BA was still its foundation
@@AKiEM. So what did they bring to hip hop culture?One many in cool herc doesn't mean all Jamaicans.He was Americanized by black Americans culture period
3:04 Colon doesn't know that dreads are from Africa not Jamaica?
@paimei1651 dreads are from africa? You just making shit up. That's an aborigine thing from all over the planet, but predominately in the Americas. Not just some jamacians
@@mikejones-wn1sw While the hairstyle is very old and may be worn by many cultures all over the planet, the oldest archaeological evidence of dreadlocks comes from Africa.
@@paimei1651 you just making shit up. You just promote a out of africa theory. This very day there isn't a large population of africans with dreads. But so shitz and giggles. Show us how this first dreadlock came from africa
Of Course I know they are from Africa. That was not my point.
@@DrDerrickColon ain't shit from africa that doesn't sound african. Kill that bullshit. You don't see any African MC, or Drum player or guitar player or lyricist. You see immigrants cosplaying Foundational Black Americans aka Aborigines of America. Corny azz latino, most don't even know what it means, he'll neither do you. But this is what our music is you claim you had hand in and some random africans and carribeans which is a damn lie. Indigenous pop: native american music from jazz to hip hop creates a forum for the interdisciplinary discussion of popular music performed and created by American Indian musicians. In addition to examining the influence of popular musical forms from blues, jazz, country western, rock, folk, punk, reggae, and hip hop on Indigenous expressive forms, our contributors similarly note the ways that the various genres have been shaped by what some have called the “Red Roots” of American-originated musical stylesMost reservation agents and boarding school superintendents associated what they called “Indian music” with “savagery,”
This is really well-put-together research! A great resource! And cutting to the aliens dude got me dying
Great job I have been talking about flowers n many . They was the first top Dj’s. Flower was a inspiration to me
Thank you. I'm looking for any information about how Flowers got started.
DISCO IS A MADE UP WORD TO CATORGORIZE DANCE MUSIC WE DANCED TO YOTEMPO FUNK AND RB DISCO IS RB MUSIC ON ANOTHER LEVEL GEARED MORE TO MAKING YOU CONTINUOUSLY MOVE TO THE BEAT CORPORARIONS NAMED IT DISCO
Please make a video on this you sound like you know exactly what you're talking about
@@SouthernArawak she dont.
@@SouthernArawak Google the definition of Discotech and you will see that people are using it wrong in conversations half of the time.
@@AlleKat That's a half truth. Every single club that exists with a DJ set-up is a Discotech. So by the very definition Of the Word all club DJ'S are Disco DJ'S. Then if you listen to the Original Disco Music Genre made by FBA'S it literally is just sped up RnB. Whatever the village people do doesn't really count because White people usually change the sound of OUR MUSIC every time they try to copy it. No matter what music from Jazz to Trap they usually make it sound worse. That's why we always left it alone once they get to involved.
@@lroyjetsonson5060 Disco was a genre of music that was around in the late 1970s,it was started by a white dj named manusco in nyc,Disco music was so bad that i would bet money that it was the reason hiphop became so popular.Listen to donna summers song "I Feel Love" and imagine having to hear this 10 times a day on the radio.
Hip Hop is in Black People's DNA pull up old footage from the 1940s and 50s we were doing floor work and rhyming back then Cab Callaway was doing the call and response back then something we do today
16:20 This some 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥‼️‼️‼️ Sounds like the precursor to a Premo and Guru song.
Coxsone Dodd already said that he got the Sound System idea from the United States
Omg🤦
@@dwightgayle9589 stay stupid
Puerto ricans created new breaking moves in the 70s show me any proof of someone doing a windmill to backspin to freeze before the 70s
So what 😂
So why y’all latch on to our culture then 😂😂 dummy we created all of it
agreed but innovation is not creation
respectfully
Very good presentation 💯
why u cant make good truthfull informative videos like this?
@@AlleKat stop trolling
@@AlleKat sir, Truth Savior has thoroughly, eloquently and intelligently destroyed Colon over and over again.
@@AKiEM. colon is a phony he destroyed himself.
They didn't hv to say where...
They were all living together 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
Battling is different from a soundclash is more brutal we dont play music you can buy in a shop we build dubplates we go to the artist and voice specials so you can't compare battling to a soundclash its very different
absolutely - Colon just making anything up claiming its the same.
Great work bruh☝🏾
Where are those clips from? I always wanted to know..
Which clips?
@@AKiEM.The clips starting from 20:45... the ones with stay high,dj kool dee and Tyrone the mixologist.
@@MultiCoffee123that’s from an unreleased Phase II documentary called “we was kings”
@@AKiEM. Do you know where I can find it? So I can see it?
Disco is not rapping or toasting on the mike!!!🤯
Wtf 🤯
Nice video. You can hear Dr Hepcat from Texas, rapping in the video I just dropped about the FBA radio djs
It's the rapping and rhyming over disco breaks that is the origin of hip hop/rap styles. DJing came long before MCs doing their thing.
Puerto Ricans, like Dominicans and Cubans, are part of the Afro-diaspora. They are an African-heritage-based people as well as having Taíno (the indigenous people who resided on the island of Borikén) and European (Spanish) heritages. So are they black, or not? Yes and no. They are a distinct people who tend to have three races coursing through them. Yet historically they have shared a more profound relationship with African Americans, especially in New York, than with any other group in the U.S. This is due to the fact that they and blacks share certain specifics that are based on Kongo/Bantu cultural traits that stress music, dance and wordplay.
African Americans and Puerto Ricans have tended to share the same low-income socio-economic status and all that it entails. Culturally, Puerto Ricans have grooved on jazz and r&b sounds, while blacks have taken to salsa and gotten down with 1960s Puerto Rican "soul music," bugalú, or "boogaloo." The exchange that fueled hiphop was between African-American, Puerto Rican and Afro-Caribbean youths.
When hiphop became commercially viable, it was defined strictly as a black music form. The demands of "authenticity" thus forced New York Rican rappers to decide if they were black to the exclusion of being Puerto Rican. If they are Puerto Rican, they are relegated to categories like "tropical rap," "rap en español," or "Latino hip hop."
The contributions of New York Ricans have either been downplayed or ignored. "And when their presence has been acknowledged," writes Rivera, "frequently it has been misinterpreted as a defection from Puerto Rican culture and identity, into the African American camp."
Your comment here is called an appeal to authority (one which you did not credit) There is nothing here which speaks to anything I said in my video and you do not have any point to go with it.
It is false that the media somehow branded HH as Black American music form - it literally simply was a Black American music form which was recognized quite easily as being Black culture because it was - it was obviously part of our culture - we recognized it through the country as such.
Now, if everything else in this comment is true then Puerto Ricans should have no problem admitting they assimilated into North American Culture while many PR youth assimilated into Black American Culture.
Video on point💯
Hip hop culture and music are primarily of Black American origin, but they were significantly influenced by Caribbean American culture. The roots of hip hop can be traced back to the 1970s in the Bronx, New York City, a melting pot of diverse cultures and ethnicities.
Key aspects of hip hop include:
DJing and Turntablism: Innovated by DJ Kool Herc, who was born in Jamaica and moved to the Bronx. He introduced the concept of "breaking" or "breakbeat" DJing, where the most danceable sections of songs (breaks) were isolated and repeated.
Rapping: While rapping has deeper roots in African American culture, its rhythmic and lyrical styles were also influenced by Caribbean forms of toasting and dub music, popular in Jamaican music.
Breakdancing: This element developed in the urban communities of New York and reflects a synthesis of various dance traditions, including those from African and Caribbean cultures.
Graffiti Art: Originating in Philadelphia and New York, graffiti became a significant part of the visual expression of hip hop culture, developed by youth from diverse ethnic backgrounds.
Beatboxing: An art form primarily developed within African American communities, emulating percussion sounds using the mouth, lips, tongue, and voice.
In summary, while hip hop's core development took place within African American communities, it was undoubtedly shaped by Caribbean American influences, creating a rich, hybrid culture that encompasses various musical, dance, and artistic traditions.
Yes, this is the media generated popular myth. AI. Don’t want to add some actual facts backing this mythology?
@@AKiEM. I've had full out conversations with A.I... It said that it makes mistakes but the percentile is less than 2% after I asked it a series of questions.
@@Rio-uv1gs it said Kool Herc invented “breaking”
It’s not wrong, but it is repeating a popular myth which has been debunked.
Ask it exactly who, brought exactly what cultural technique, what year from Jamaica. What it’s doing is vague repeating people who are wrong. And it tries to be culturally sensitive and inclusive.
People come on here all the time with vague notions and no actual precise facts.
@@AKiEM. kool herc invented the "merry go round"
@@Rio-uv1gs ok. Who brought exactly what and when from Jamaica. Who was the first to do it in the US?
good woork. Bro
He acting like our pioneers are not around to debunk his attempts
Look at Math Hoffa ❤ Puerto Ricans we’re there day 1 let’s stop it I’m Black
Jamaicans didn’t pioneer dreads!! All cultures rocked dreads since antiquity. If you wanna keep it real the Yogi’s in India are the ones that kept the tradition going before the Rasta’s!!
I forgot about the Ethiopians that refused to cut their hair and let it lock while fighting the Italians before WW2. The Rastas got locs from the Ethiopians
The man wasnt wrong
Try and try again...but the facts remain...Blacks of America are the original Don Dada!!😂
Why do you have my videos all sped up? Whats that about?
I watch youtubes at faster speed to save time.
@@AKiEM. that’s make it sound crazy.
@@DrDerrickColon no, its not the speed 😂
Secondly, I have challenged the following people to a live debate: Truth saviour, Dj Phase, You, Tariq Nasheed, BSIA, none of you want the smoke. You hide behind keyboards. So let me know when you want to debate. All of you have declined.
Well I cant speak for anyone else, and you are feeling yourself.
I have not declined and this is the third or fourth time I am telling you the same thing - I will come on your live when I am convinced there will be no types of funny business bs. You are not an honest broker of information. When you set that straight I will show up.
I asked you for a premise, a statement, a topic. You answered "hip-hop" ... you will need to provide a proper topic prior to me showing up.
From what I understand, you were invited to be in TNs documentary but declined - so you should already understand the issues at hand - in fact I consider it to be hypocritical to try and make a case out of me not willing to come on your live - YET.
Nobody is hiding behind a keyboard 😂
Now, you have waisted your comment here. You could have easily tried to support your claim of Kid Creole being the first MC, or any other points I have made, theres plenty.
@@AKiEM. you have declined. More than once. Stop lying.
@@DrDerrickColon
I have not declined and this is the fifth or sixth time I am telling you the same thing - I will come on your live when I am convinced there will be no types of funny business bs. You are not an honest broker of information. When you set that straight I will show up.
do you understand what these words mean?
@@AKiEM. show me one thing I have lied about. Other than that have a great day.
@@DrDerrickColon already did
go watch my first video again
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Jamicians established the big speakers in UK not here we already had big speakers, two turntables and microphones... And Jamicians got that from us as well according to their pioneers.. And Black Americans been rapping since the 1920's.. The Jubaliars rapping in the 40's fuk they mean we didn't start rapping until the 80's lol...
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THE HIDDEN HISTORY OF HIP-HOP??🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Remember it wasKool herc who is first credited for be the pioneer of hip hop and where was he from? JAMAICA
watch my video on him asap
Jamaicans were rapping/chanting/toasting/emc-ing over beats while Americans were doing something different!!🤦🤷
Look up 50s n 60s jamaican music culture
if there is something in particular you want to say about it post a url to whatever you are claiming
Yes n they turned american musicn turned it into their own culture...later was named hip-hop in America
Absolutely NOT.
that is a popular myth based on 0 fact
Um dreads is a part of Black culture and dreads didn't start in Jamaica lol.. There isn't a Black ethnic group rather it's FBA or Black people from other countries that doesn't have dreads or braids in the culture we know that didn't come from Puerto Ricans either.. And who is June Bug just making up names... And this is how you know these other groups really are the ones with no culture.. Puerto-Stinkens simply just copied what they saw us doing..
First thing wearing dreads is not a FBA thing that's a fact and all black Americans use to laugh at them and make fun of them
FBAs ain't never listened to no damn Reggae! Or no damn Salsa! and was intrigued by that sound for what? When were the creators of Rock & Roll, Gospal , Jazz, Rhythm & Blues and Hip-Hop.
Im into facts
Color or Creed has nothing to do with the
Isue.
Thease videos you put out does back them up.
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