Fun game, demo'd and picked up this up at UKGE, One potentially critical rules piece here though - at 1:05:00 when the spitfire forces the bomber into disadvantage - for this mission the bombers are immune to tailing (page 14 of the scenario book), so this should have had no impact. The bombers have to be shot to come down from Advantage to Neutral.
Three years down the line but I am watching this video so someone else might! The player using Germans is using the movement template that came with the original starter set. This template has subsequently been found to be short (i.e. each segment is 20mm instead of 1 inch). Warlord apparently acknowledged this and recommended using a simple inch measure (Note I saw the response posted on Reddit not directly from Warlord, however I can confirm that the included movement template is NOT inches and I discarded mine) I purchase some third party indented movement and range templates. I originally purchased a pair of LONG movement templates, however having played several games I have now gone and purchase an additional pair of short (4 inch) templates. Indented templates work particularly well with the round miniature bases. You can estimate a 45 degree turn with reasonable accuracy without having to use the turn/rotate tool, simply by rotating the base in the indent (OR rotating the template around the base, before or during movement if using "Tight turn" ).
To clarify the issue raised at 39:00. According to the rule booklet on multi engine planes you can fire at them irregardless of the advantage level. Tailing a bomber does nothing. I think there was a mixup there 👍
www.google.co.uk/search?q=irregardless&oq=irregardless&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l5.2199j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 You had me worried for a second there
"Tailing a bomber [multi-engines aircraft] does nothing" . Where in the rule books does it say that? Tailing a multi-engine should immediately send it to disadvantage just as it does with a single engine and therefore (assuming the attacking aircraft has not already spent its pilot action) is open to be hit with pilot-action shooting. Tailing a multi-engine with a rear gunner does open the attacker to an additional die in the shoot back. It is a bit odd that a critical hit on a multi-engine has no more effect that a hit ? (since all a critical does is reduce agility by 1 and multi engines have no agility) I would have thought that every Ace (6) rolled by the attacker should bring the target down an advantage level AND when at Disadvantage, each additional Ace (6)should represent a damaged engine. :)
Interesting that, there are three presenters in this video. I have found that it is easier to demo this game as a third person. Much easier to notice rookie errors example : when players have not taken their pilot action.
Allen Barton The Warlord chap advised that when a bomber is disadvantaged it can’t go back up... incorrect. A damaged multi-engined may no longer be advantaged. (Therefore can still go to neutral). He also missed that a damaged bomber reduces its speed by 1 and its firepower in every facing by 1, for every boom chit. A bomber can be shot from any advantage level, which someone else has now mentioned.
Aircooled22nd - I think they are using the special rules from Scenario 4. 'Bomb-laden'd planes reduce speed by 1, can't turn, can't burn or climb for advantage and unaffected by tailing.
They're Zvezda 1/200th JU88 - Warlord will be releasing these (as well as the Blenheim and Soviet fast bomber) as a squadron for Blood Red Skies this summer
Kargush it wouldn’t be right for a Battle of Britain dogfight anyway as the Battle of Britain ended in 1940 and the me 410 was introduced in 1943 I’d personally rather see some me 110s a german heavy fighter that did feature in the Battle of Britain
Anywhere in the front ark. You can only claim a tailing position though if your front arrow points directly to the opponents stem through their rear ark.
At first does seem as though the dice could be blank apart from a single ace (representing 6), however the sides 1-5 are used before the game starts. As for the 1 in 6 chance PER DICE, I believe that in fact this accurately represents the chances of hitting an enemy plane in this era, given that ammo was very limited on a fighter, you could not simply hold down the fire button as your target dodged, each burst of fire lasted just seconds. Notice that the higher skill pilots roll more dice and you roll one additional dice for fighter against a bomber (vulnerable). More dice, the better the odds of rolling an ace.
Foremost, great gaming system. I have invested in The Pacific Campaign boxed deal from WARLORD and look forward to enticing new players from our local club.With that highly positive endorsement written I have a polite suggestion to improve this game.Delete this video and remake one where the rules are followed correctly.I am not trolling. I watch these "Let's Play" series of videos to check and verify if I understand the rules of the particular gaming system presented.When you put a video up that has errors (let alone as many as this one unfortunately has) it simply confuses the player audience.Again, delete and remake...not to troll but to clarify.Thanks for the other videos I have had the pleasure to watch. Many are quite useful. Lastly, remember, you are doing this for an audience. While I do not believe any of the players are actors, you are trying to demonstrate a system and improve audience understanding. Speak up, articulate, and do not use colloquialisms (not all viewing members are from England). Please consider this a positive and constructive review. I like and will watch more game demos...get the rules correct please.Thanks again
You should redo this video and correct all the rule errors this video has. I love your play through(s) --but this has to many rules mistakes and new players should be thoroughly confused
Honestly, they did make rule mistakes but remaking the video!? Do you even know how long it takes to put together a video. Not only do all of them have to find an hour they all have to put towards the video, as well as assembling a table, but also editing. And then asking them to do it over is just stupid.
@@silverwargaming8453 DO I care how long it takes? No they are the ones posting rules play through videos...they should get it correct, or at least fix the errors when they are shown to be in error....it isn't like this is a bunch of dudes just playing....they are a store using this as a venue and making money from it....or at least attempting to.
Fun game, demo'd and picked up this up at UKGE,
One potentially critical rules piece here though - at 1:05:00 when the spitfire forces the bomber into disadvantage - for this mission the bombers are immune to tailing (page 14 of the scenario book), so this should have had no impact. The bombers have to be shot to come down from Advantage to Neutral.
Three years down the line but I am watching this video so someone else might!
The player using Germans is using the movement template that came with the original starter set. This template has subsequently been found to be short (i.e. each segment is 20mm instead of 1 inch). Warlord apparently acknowledged this and recommended using a simple inch measure (Note I saw the response posted on Reddit not directly from Warlord, however I can confirm that the included movement template is NOT inches and I discarded mine)
I purchase some third party indented movement and range templates. I originally purchased a pair of LONG movement templates, however having played several games I have now gone and purchase an additional pair of short (4 inch) templates.
Indented templates work particularly well with the round miniature bases. You can estimate a 45 degree turn with reasonable accuracy without having to use the turn/rotate tool, simply by rotating the base in the indent (OR rotating the template around the base, before or during movement if using "Tight turn" ).
To clarify the issue raised at 39:00. According to the rule booklet on multi engine planes you can fire at them irregardless of the advantage level. Tailing a bomber does nothing. I think there was a mixup there 👍
there was and you're correct - heat of battle :)
Blood-Red-Skies The Air Combat Game looking forward to seeing more at expo in Birmingham, great work. I love this game
Irregardless?
www.google.co.uk/search?q=irregardless&oq=irregardless&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l5.2199j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
You had me worried for a second there
"Tailing a bomber [multi-engines aircraft] does nothing" . Where in the rule books does it say that? Tailing a multi-engine should immediately send it to disadvantage just as it does with a single engine and therefore (assuming the attacking aircraft has not already spent its pilot action) is open to be hit with pilot-action shooting. Tailing a multi-engine with a rear gunner does open the attacker to an additional die in the shoot back. It is a bit odd that a critical hit on a multi-engine has no more effect that a hit ? (since all a critical does is reduce agility by 1 and multi engines have no agility) I would have thought that every Ace (6) rolled by the attacker should bring the target down an advantage level AND when at Disadvantage, each additional Ace (6)should represent a damaged engine. :)
Cool to see the Bomber Escort scenario in action. That was a pretty close game and could have gone either way just on a few rolls of the 'ol dice.
It's funny that John's playing with the RAF whilst wearing a hoodie with a frikkin' Pz VI TIGER on it :-D
Although you're using a stat card for Dornier-17s, those bombers are Junkers-88, which have an agility of 1.
There are no Dornier planes in the BRS range, so they had to use other bombers.
Where did you get those bombers?
Interesting that, there are three presenters in this video. I have found that it is easier to demo this game as a third person. Much easier to notice rookie errors example : when players have not taken their pilot action.
Are those Dorniers as the Luftwaffe bombers as I cant seem to find them as a product in WG store?
Have you fixed the cardboard measuring tool. It was undersized. So one side using the tool and the other the tape measure is unfair.
Strategic advantage, we call it.
:) new rulers out soon
Amazing how many times the 'CHITS' phase is forgotten.
Holy chit.
Where did you get the models for the Do17?
Look much more like Ju88 to me...
the starter box comes with cardboard bombers... where did you get the bomber miniatures?
A number of rule mistakes relating to the bombers here... fraustrating to watch
AirCooled22nd which ones are wrong
Allen Barton The Warlord chap advised that when a bomber is disadvantaged it can’t go back up... incorrect. A damaged multi-engined may no longer be advantaged. (Therefore can still go to neutral). He also missed that a damaged bomber reduces its speed by 1 and its firepower in every facing by 1, for every boom chit. A bomber can be shot from any advantage level, which someone else has now mentioned.
Aircooled22nd - I think they are using the special rules from Scenario 4. 'Bomb-laden'd planes reduce speed by 1, can't turn, can't burn or climb for advantage and unaffected by tailing.
They're Zvezda 1/200th JU88 - Warlord will be releasing these (as well as the Blenheim and Soviet fast bomber) as a squadron for Blood Red Skies this summer
No ME110s?
They're released this August :)
Kargush it wouldn’t be right for a Battle of Britain dogfight anyway as the Battle of Britain ended in 1940 and the me 410 was introduced in 1943 I’d personally rather see some me 110s a german heavy fighter that did feature in the Battle of Britain
Yes, like I said, ME110s.
Kargush sorry my friend I must be going blind
Why are the Spit`s Mk IIs? That version only entered service late in the BoB and most Spitfires used in the Battle were Mk Ia`s.
How does aiming work? Is it only directly in front or in the front ark?
Anywhere in the front ark. You can only claim a tailing position though if your front arrow points directly to the opponents stem through their rear ark.
Thanks, I was confused about that 👍
This is an interesting game, but seems like there are very few results from firing. Maybe a little frustrating.
At first does seem as though the dice could be blank apart from a single ace (representing 6), however the sides 1-5 are used before the game starts. As for the 1 in 6 chance PER DICE, I believe that in fact this accurately represents the chances of hitting an enemy plane in this era, given that ammo was very limited on a fighter, you could not simply hold down the fire button as your target dodged, each burst of fire lasted just seconds. Notice that the higher skill pilots roll more dice and you roll one additional dice for fighter against a bomber (vulnerable). More dice, the better the odds of rolling an ace.
Just me or these dice weighted
Foremost, great gaming system. I have invested in The Pacific Campaign boxed deal from WARLORD and look forward to enticing new players from our local club.With that highly positive endorsement written I have a polite suggestion to improve this game.Delete this video and remake one where the rules are followed correctly.I am not trolling. I watch these "Let's Play" series of videos to check and verify if I understand the rules of the particular gaming system presented.When you put a video up that has errors (let alone as many as this one unfortunately has) it simply confuses the player audience.Again, delete and remake...not to troll but to clarify.Thanks for the other videos I have had the pleasure to watch. Many are quite useful. Lastly, remember, you are doing this for an audience. While I do not believe any of the players are actors, you are trying to demonstrate a system and improve audience understanding. Speak up, articulate, and do not use colloquialisms (not all viewing members are from England). Please consider this a positive and constructive review. I like and will watch more game demos...get the rules correct please.Thanks again
You should redo this video and correct all the rule errors this video has. I love your play through(s) --but this has to many rules mistakes and new players should be thoroughly confused
Thanks. I really am.
was pondering buying this but a now totally confused.
Honestly, they did make rule mistakes but remaking the video!? Do you even know how long it takes to put together a video. Not only do all of them have to find an hour they all have to put towards the video, as well as assembling a table, but also editing. And then asking them to do it over is just stupid.
@@silverwargaming8453 DO I care how long it takes? No they are the ones posting rules play through videos...they should get it correct, or at least fix the errors when they are shown to be in error....it isn't like this is a bunch of dudes just playing....they are a store using this as a venue and making money from it....or at least attempting to.
@@deankirkpatrick7658 that's fair enough