Would have strongly preferred more in depth reviews for such new (highly anticipated) items. Even going so far as to show how the sling attaches to the front, how a water bladder fits in, or how the Capture Clip attaches would have been a really nice touch. The rushed / casual videos are great for simple items like packing cubes or refreshes of items, but for brand new items I would have liked to see more. Also seems like very little discussion about the actual practicality / usability while hiking or camping which I also would have liked to hear about.
I agree, but would go further. This was not a proper review at all, but an explanatory clip of the pack without any critical considerations at all. Like you I would have liked to know how it actually feels and compares to other packs its size. I would have liked to know if there is an upside for them to opt for raincover instead of dyneema fabric. I would like to know the weight. … Yeah, one review cannot answer all possible questions, but this one did not answer ANY 😡 Any if it was unclear, that „review“ did not help to promote the backpack AT ALL. If anything it felt like a concealed promotion video which makes me more uneasy than anything else.
The review mentions the zippers are “unbranded.” However, PD refers to the zippers used on their bags as their own, in-house developed Peak Design Ultra Zips. So not sure these should be considered “unbranded” zippers.
Nice bag! Two questions; Are there drain holes for the kangaroo pocket? If you were to take a tumble and invert in a fall, would your heavy gear come out the top? I do love the design and the white one looks great for glacial travel.
I'm obsessed with everything PD and have been looking for a bigger/burlier bag than my Arcteryx Aerios 18 (which is pretty close to the best backpack I've ever owned) that can handle electronics better and am hoping this fits the bill. As such, the harness is the biggest piece that sells me on this pack. Particularly when travelling, I like to have everything valuable close to my chest/accessible, so A+ to PD on this! I generally hate rolltops (they're just fidgety), but I don't think I'll mind all of the bungees/etc., as I'll use one pack for a ton of activities/sports/traveling and like a really capable, dare I say, over-engineered pack. I'll be selling my 45L travel backpack, as this will be so much more flexible! I *am curious about the design idea for the two pockets in the kangaroo pouch vs. one big one. One big one seems more practical?
This is such a weird bag to me. With a few material changes it can be another type of everyday bag but I can't see myself taking it on a backpacking trip. It's too prone to failure if it happens in a middle of a trip to me.
12:52 Hey Erick, thank you so much for the awesome video! I have a couple of questions about whether the old Peak Design Camera Cube with the side opening matches the side opening of the Peak Design Outdoor Backpack 45L. What is the size of this Camera Cube? I'm looking for quick camera access without having to open the entire bag. Also, I just wanted to introduce myself as a photographer who loves travelling overseas for photography trips that usually last 1 to 2 weeks. Thanks!
On paper that should be the dream bag, but looking at it, I am not the biggest fan of the closure system on the top. Also for some reason the pack doesn’t give me pd vibes. It’s like it wasn’t made by pd.
This does seem like a strange left turn for them design wise. I was still waiting for a Travel backpack 45L V2, but they still haven’t updated it after all these years. I feel like the niche within a niche of camera focused outdoor/hiking backpacks has been fairly saturated already with the likes of Shimoda designs, Wandrd, and others, and so to me I thought the better pivot would be to make their every day bags more softgoods and less hard case on the back. This has none of their classic sleek and futuristic design in favor of more practical design elements, which while functional and desirable for this category of bag also means the bag loses its aesthetic character.
@@kalvin. This is not your travel backpack v2 by any means. The design is completly different, but imo they are establishing their own style for the outdoors, less formal occassions. I use Wandrd too, love their roll-top, but the shell is too sturdy / boxy. On the other hand, the closures here on PD are a bit messy.
Found the specs on the Kickstarter site, but I can’t seem to find the ‘empty’ weight… any ideas? For a 45ltr pack, a frame is clearly needed IMO, but I am not a fan of internal frames - they tend to get very sweaty hugging your back, especially when exerting (uphills). Granted, an external frame would need a redesign for thru back access, but there are solutions to this. There are also better solutions out there for the breast straps - I prefer a wider, single strap. A few interesting ideas from PD, but as a trekker (for decades) and a photographer, it doesn’t quite cut it. Sorry PD. I’ll stick with my Deuter day pack, albeit lacking some of the photography nice-to-have but I make it work (no association with Deuter - just a customer). Thanks for the review.
Hello! Thank you for the detailed review! Any chance you can share the dimensions? Because I can’t seem to find it on the PD kickstarter page, to make sure for carry-on requirements in the EU. Thanks so much!
@@jochenbongaerts thanks so much ! The next measurement I'm intrigued by now is the dimensions of the internal frame -- as I'm wondering if it's not fully packed out, if it's flexible enough to be "squeezed in" a bit to make the height fit some more airline carry-on requirements!
Comparison of wandrd, Pd everyday and the Pd outdoor 20 and 35L: Wandrd 31L. - 21 x 12 x 7. Wt. 3.4 lbs Everyday PD 30L - 22L-30L 4.65 lbs 19 x 13 x 6.7 in 48.5cm x 33cm x 17 cm 25L Backpack 2.57 lbs HxWxD 19.09 inches x 11.02 inches x 5.91 inches (roll down) 25.98 inches x 11.02 inches x 5.91 inches (roll extended) 45L Backpack 3.97 lbs HxWxD 22.05 inches x 12.20 inches x 6.69 inches (roll down) 30.71 inches x 12.20 inches x 6.69 inches (Roll Extended)
I don’t think PD made an outdoor first bag with this. My purchase case for this would be a 45L travel bag with better ergonomics that I can take outdoors for shorter trips. I don’t think I would ever take this bag on a hardcore backpacking trip and I’m not sure that’s what PD was designing it for
Thanks for the review. I'm not sold on it, esp the cords, two skinny sternum straps, and the Kangaroo pocket. Seems like PD is trying to re-invent something for the sake of being different, while attempting to look good doing it. OTOH, if it looks like every other bag that came before it, how will it differentiate itself in this crowded marketplace?! It is interesting to note how much Shimoda (and arguably F-stop) has influenced the market. The adjustable harness, the wide shoulder straps and its pockets are now becoming standard features.
Those cords really bothers me, those will get caught on stuff... for an outdoor bag, it'd be a nightmare walking with it through trees. Sometimes, I kinda think PD likes to reinvent the wheel and miss. The harness system does look familiar though... from another bag maker (hint : "S.......") but nothing wrong with that, copying something that is good and works. Looks-wise, it somehow doesn't feel very PD. It's kinda clean in front but the sides look really messy, floppy and dangly.
Great Design bag, Except 1 Major Flaw, that would cause me not to purchase. No Way to Lock the Magnetic Roll Top. Which I find odd for a bag designed to carry expensive camera gear. Should have put 1 of their proprietary zippers there instead. Imagine your at the Gate, Agent says Overhead bins full, Gotta check it. Can't Lock It 😬
I expected peak design to do a better job at hiding the extra straps and cords that are dangling everywhere. the rolltop also looks messy and you can’t even hide or stowaway the shoulder straps if you’re checking in the bag like on Osprey farpoint bags or their own travel backpack.
The problem is how to carry a lot of stuff while keeping the bag light. And also how to support outdoor trips involving skis, tents, etc. These are pretty sleek compared to typical outdoor bags.
@@PackHacker2 YKK Aquaguards are nearly impossible to operate one-handed and the rubber coating can crumble and tear after a couple years of regular use. This doesn’t seem to occur with PD Zoom zippers and they are easily opened and closed without much friction with one hand
I'm a big fan of PD products and I own a bunch of them and I can't believe what ugly backpack they just created. I'm not too fond of roll top, its strings everywhere and has almost no zippers. Also the g hooks on the back looks like they will tear apart after 1-2 years of use if the backpack is heavier. I can see countless different ways to make a great backpack with all the PD clever stuff and yet they didn't do it.
I think you're just not a fan of outdoor hiking backpacks in general. I'm glad PD actually designed a whole new hiking backpack rather than redesign an existing travel backpack with hiking features. They're used differently so require different features, materials, and designs.
@@veryboringname. actually, it's the opposite. I have 3 Deuter backpacks. One very big, one middle size, one for climbing and I have a Dakine photo backpack, it's not exactly for hiking, it's more for sports and events, but I've been in the mountains with it. I'm not against PD making a hiking backpack or starting from scratch, I just think their decisions in the process are wrong. My prediction is that in 2-3 years they will create v2 that will be completely different and probably then will be an amazing product.
@@AnastasTarpanov I guess that just shows how people can have different preferences. None of the Deuter backpack designs appealed to me; I went with Osprey and Berghaus for my 56-65L packs. Nobody can design a bag that will appeal to everybody. It doesn't mean their design is bad, it just means different people have different preferences. The design of this PD backpack doesn't really appeal to me either, but for a hiking pack I care more about functionality than looks. If the functionality is better than my Osprey (whose design is also meh but is functionally decent), I'd be interested.
@@veryboringname. yeah, for sure we have different preferences and this is not a bad thing. I say design not like a visual style but more like designing elements and structures of the backpack. The roll top with these strings is an awful design. It's offering a lot of space, but it does not look easy to use. The g hooks on the back will be a problem for sure for heavy backpack. The hip belt when you hide it underneath the back probably will be not comfortable to wear the backpack this way. I think they just made a product in their typical style trying to innovate, but for me it didn't work this time. Let's see what will happen with the Kickstarter and then the product lifespan after that.
This is not a bag for outdoor trips or backpacking. It works at some point for cameras, because I have seen better bags with the same concept. Those top cables are going to break, basically all the cables! It is heavy and has no separate compartment for dirty shoes, a tent, or a sleeping bag. They need to follow the other brands that design also for women's bodies.
Would have strongly preferred more in depth reviews for such new (highly anticipated) items. Even going so far as to show how the sling attaches to the front, how a water bladder fits in, or how the Capture Clip attaches would have been a really nice touch. The rushed / casual videos are great for simple items like packing cubes or refreshes of items, but for brand new items I would have liked to see more.
Also seems like very little discussion about the actual practicality / usability while hiking or camping which I also would have liked to hear about.
I agree, but would go further. This was not a proper review at all, but an explanatory clip of the pack without any critical considerations at all. Like you I would have liked to know how it actually feels and compares to other packs its size. I would have liked to know if there is an upside for them to opt for raincover instead of dyneema fabric. I would like to know the weight. …
Yeah, one review cannot answer all possible questions, but this one did not answer ANY 😡
Any if it was unclear, that „review“ did not help to promote the backpack AT ALL. If anything it felt like a concealed promotion video which makes me more uneasy than anything else.
The review mentions the zippers are “unbranded.” However, PD refers to the zippers used on their bags as their own, in-house developed Peak Design Ultra Zips.
So not sure these should be considered “unbranded” zippers.
If it’s not YKK it’s unbranded 😂
I think those zippers lacks even a Peak Design logo on them, hence the term "unbranded".
Nice bag! Two questions; Are there drain holes for the kangaroo pocket? If you were to take a tumble and invert in a fall, would your heavy gear come out the top? I do love the design and the white one looks great for glacial travel.
I want to see how the peakdesign capture clip works with this new bag and how to adjust the straps/harness. All these ware not showed in this video.
I'm obsessed with everything PD and have been looking for a bigger/burlier bag than my Arcteryx Aerios 18 (which is pretty close to the best backpack I've ever owned) that can handle electronics better and am hoping this fits the bill. As such, the harness is the biggest piece that sells me on this pack. Particularly when travelling, I like to have everything valuable close to my chest/accessible, so A+ to PD on this! I generally hate rolltops (they're just fidgety), but I don't think I'll mind all of the bungees/etc., as I'll use one pack for a ton of activities/sports/traveling and like a really capable, dare I say, over-engineered pack. I'll be selling my 45L travel backpack, as this will be so much more flexible! I *am curious about the design idea for the two pockets in the kangaroo pouch vs. one big one. One big one seems more practical?
thanks for your review! can you please kindly provide the dimensions of this bag? are its dimensions carry-on compliant ? thanks in advance!
any concern about water getting into the kangaroo pocket? doe Ti have any drainage?
Really appreciate all the detail
In this review. So wordy but the words were all really useful. Bravo!
😃😃😃
This is such a weird bag to me. With a few material changes it can be another type of everyday bag but I can't see myself taking it on a backpacking trip. It's too prone to failure if it happens in a middle of a trip to me.
Thanks for the feedback! 😃
How is it prone to failure? Are you worried about the cords?
12:52 Hey Erick, thank you so much for the awesome video! I have a couple of questions about whether the old Peak Design Camera Cube with the side opening matches the side opening of the Peak Design Outdoor Backpack 45L. What is the size of this Camera Cube? I'm looking for quick camera access without having to open the entire bag. Also, I just wanted to introduce myself as a photographer who loves travelling overseas for photography trips that usually last 1 to 2 weeks. Thanks!
Thanks for the presentation. Can you give us the weight of the pack ? Thanks !
How is back breathability? Any better than the Travel Line from PD?
On paper that should be the dream bag, but looking at it, I am not the biggest fan of the closure system on the top. Also for some reason the pack doesn’t give me pd vibes. It’s like it wasn’t made by pd.
This does seem like a strange left turn for them design wise. I was still waiting for a Travel backpack 45L V2, but they still haven’t updated it after all these years. I feel like the niche within a niche of camera focused outdoor/hiking backpacks has been fairly saturated already with the likes of Shimoda designs, Wandrd, and others, and so to me I thought the better pivot would be to make their every day bags more softgoods and less hard case on the back. This has none of their classic sleek and futuristic design in favor of more practical design elements, which while functional and desirable for this category of bag also means the bag loses its aesthetic character.
@@kalvin. This is not your travel backpack v2 by any means. The design is completly different, but imo they are establishing their own style for the outdoors, less formal occassions. I use Wandrd too, love their roll-top, but the shell is too sturdy / boxy. On the other hand, the closures here on PD are a bit messy.
Thanks for the review. But would have preferred if this was used for real travel.
Found the specs on the Kickstarter site, but I can’t seem to find the ‘empty’ weight… any ideas? For a 45ltr pack, a frame is clearly needed IMO, but I am not a fan of internal frames - they tend to get very sweaty hugging your back, especially when exerting (uphills). Granted, an external frame would need a redesign for thru back access, but there are solutions to this. There are also better solutions out there for the breast straps - I prefer a wider, single strap. A few interesting ideas from PD, but as a trekker (for decades) and a photographer, it doesn’t quite cut it. Sorry PD. I’ll stick with my Deuter day pack, albeit lacking some of the photography nice-to-have but I make it work (no association with Deuter - just a customer). Thanks for the review.
1.55KG, but cant find laptop pocket dimensions, 16 inch laptop is not enough info, there are different sized laptops.
I thought I set 1.25x spped....
😂😂😂
Hello! Thank you for the detailed review! Any chance you can share the dimensions? Because I can’t seem to find it on the PD kickstarter page, to make sure for carry-on requirements in the EU. Thanks so much!
It's in the FAQ on the Kickstarter page: 45L Backpack
HxWxD
56cm x 31cm x 17cm (roll down)
22.05 inches x 12.20 inches x 6.69 inches (roll down)
@@jochenbongaerts thanks so much ! The next measurement I'm intrigued by now is the dimensions of the internal frame -- as I'm wondering if it's not fully packed out, if it's flexible enough to be "squeezed in" a bit to make the height fit some more airline carry-on requirements!
Comparison of wandrd, Pd everyday and the Pd outdoor 20 and 35L:
Wandrd 31L. - 21 x 12 x 7. Wt. 3.4 lbs
Everyday PD 30L - 22L-30L 4.65 lbs
19 x 13 x 6.7 in
48.5cm x 33cm x 17 cm
25L Backpack 2.57 lbs HxWxD 19.09 inches x 11.02 inches x 5.91 inches (roll down) 25.98 inches x 11.02 inches x 5.91 inches (roll extended)
45L Backpack 3.97 lbs HxWxD 22.05 inches x 12.20 inches x 6.69 inches (roll down) 30.71 inches x 12.20 inches x 6.69 inches (Roll Extended)
I know it’s a weird question but uh… does 20 L everyday backpack inside this backpack?? Thanks!!!
Any downside then?
I thought there was a separate hydration pocket, along with a laptop sleeve?
I don’t think PD made an outdoor first bag with this. My purchase case for this would be a 45L travel bag with better ergonomics that I can take outdoors for shorter trips. I don’t think I would ever take this bag on a hardcore backpacking trip and I’m not sure that’s what PD was designing it for
6:09 foreshadowing?? 😅
Would a bear can fit in there?
Thanks for the review. I'm not sold on it, esp the cords, two skinny sternum straps, and the Kangaroo pocket. Seems like PD is trying to re-invent something for the sake of being different, while attempting to look good doing it. OTOH, if it looks like every other bag that came before it, how will it differentiate itself in this crowded marketplace?! It is interesting to note how much Shimoda (and arguably F-stop) has influenced the market. The adjustable harness, the wide shoulder straps and its pockets are now becoming standard features.
kinda wish they had a luggage pass through
Those cords really bothers me, those will get caught on stuff... for an outdoor bag, it'd be a nightmare walking with it through trees. Sometimes, I kinda think PD likes to reinvent the wheel and miss. The harness system does look familiar though... from another bag maker (hint : "S.......") but nothing wrong with that, copying something that is good and works.
Looks-wise, it somehow doesn't feel very PD. It's kinda clean in front but the sides look really messy, floppy and dangly.
It’s a common harness system for backcountry activity because vest storage is convenient. Arcteryx, Hyperlite, Salomon all use a similar design.
Great Design bag, Except 1 Major Flaw, that would cause me not to purchase. No Way to Lock the Magnetic Roll Top. Which I find odd for a bag designed to carry expensive camera gear. Should have put 1 of their proprietary zippers there instead. Imagine your at the Gate, Agent says Overhead bins full, Gotta check it. Can't Lock It 😬
Ain’t no backpackers taking this on trail. 😂😂😂
I expected peak design to do a better job at hiding the extra straps and cords that are dangling everywhere. the rolltop also looks messy and you can’t even hide or stowaway the shoulder straps if you’re checking in the bag like on Osprey farpoint bags or their own travel backpack.
This bag is screaming to be caught on doorknobs, branches, and armrests
Just do a google image search for "outdoor hiking backpack" and you'll see this is one of the neater designs.
Because of one single strap that you can tuck in?
I generally love PD but this feels like a bunch of creative solutions in search of a problem. That and aesthetically hard pass IMO.
The problem is how to carry a lot of stuff while keeping the bag light. And also how to support outdoor trips involving skis, tents, etc.
These are pretty sleek compared to typical outdoor bags.
@@RogerWilco1yeah but it still weighs 4lbs
wooo pd overload 😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Not unbranded zippers. Custom Zoom zippers, higher quality than YKK.
What makes you say that they're higher quality?
@@PackHacker2 YKK Aquaguards are nearly impossible to operate one-handed and the rubber coating can crumble and tear after a couple years of regular use. This doesn’t seem to occur with PD Zoom zippers and they are easily opened and closed without much friction with one hand
I like the design of my 45L Travel Backpack better
What do you like better about it?
I'm a big fan of PD products and I own a bunch of them and I can't believe what ugly backpack they just created. I'm not too fond of roll top, its strings everywhere and has almost no zippers. Also the g hooks on the back looks like they will tear apart after 1-2 years of use if the backpack is heavier. I can see countless different ways to make a great backpack with all the PD clever stuff and yet they didn't do it.
I think you're just not a fan of outdoor hiking backpacks in general. I'm glad PD actually designed a whole new hiking backpack rather than redesign an existing travel backpack with hiking features. They're used differently so require different features, materials, and designs.
@@veryboringname. actually, it's the opposite. I have 3 Deuter backpacks. One very big, one middle size, one for climbing and I have a Dakine photo backpack, it's not exactly for hiking, it's more for sports and events, but I've been in the mountains with it.
I'm not against PD making a hiking backpack or starting from scratch, I just think their decisions in the process are wrong. My prediction is that in 2-3 years they will create v2 that will be completely different and probably then will be an amazing product.
@@AnastasTarpanov I guess that just shows how people can have different preferences. None of the Deuter backpack designs appealed to me; I went with Osprey and Berghaus for my 56-65L packs.
Nobody can design a bag that will appeal to everybody. It doesn't mean their design is bad, it just means different people have different preferences.
The design of this PD backpack doesn't really appeal to me either, but for a hiking pack I care more about functionality than looks.
If the functionality is better than my Osprey (whose design is also meh but is functionally decent), I'd be interested.
@@veryboringname. yeah, for sure we have different preferences and this is not a bad thing. I say design not like a visual style but more like designing elements and structures of the backpack. The roll top with these strings is an awful design. It's offering a lot of space, but it does not look easy to use. The g hooks on the back will be a problem for sure for heavy backpack. The hip belt when you hide it underneath the back probably will be not comfortable to wear the backpack this way. I think they just made a product in their typical style trying to innovate, but for me it didn't work this time. Let's see what will happen with the Kickstarter and then the product lifespan after that.
I’m really disappointed in the bag I’ve been waiting years for. Back to the drawing board, PD. 😢
This is not a bag for outdoor trips or backpacking. It works at some point for cameras, because I have seen better bags with the same concept. Those top cables are going to break, basically all the cables! It is heavy and has no separate compartment for dirty shoes, a tent, or a sleeping bag. They need to follow the other brands that design also for women's bodies.