“You’re welcomed to stay on at the company” how generous of Brooke to let the original owners of Spectra stay on at the business THEY started. The audacity of this tramp
@@matejhorvath522how you do things is not stealing peoples family businesses and then acting like your doing them a favor letting them keep working there
If ridge is so insistent on going into business with Brooke and he believes in her talent so much, why not just start up their own company? Why do they HAVE to steal a company, especially Sally’s business after everything her and Macy have done for them?
Macy has been running from a man to a man and hitting a Bottle. What does Ridge owe her exactly 😅 i LOVED that Nooooo Sallly was screaming after seeing Brooke 😂
Because you fail to understand Ridge cares less for ginger sally. Its his way of winning back brooke. You see he really cares about her and believes in her. As explained its easier to take a company which is up and running than start fresh or were you not paying attention as usual in the clouds 😅😅😅
He is renaming the company "LOGAN Designs", what more proof to show he believes in her talent? They are just using the Spectra building and workshop. Spectra as a brand, is thrown in the garbage, They are not using Spectra as a well known name and successful company. If it wasn't Spectra's resources, they would just have to use another building. Of course indeed he is ungrateful after everything Sally and especially Macy have done for them. Ridge isn't the nicest person ever.
That scene with Amber where she kept trying to get Little Eric to repudiate Deacon and Macy and he’s all “girl, I *do* like them, I just want to hang with my boy Tommy at your pool for one day, chill” was legitimately hilarious. Literally nobody with a working brain would listen to this exchange and think “Little Eric doesn’t want to spend time with Deacon and Macy, better give the Forresters custody ASAP.”
It's like she _wants_ Little Eric to not want to spend time with Deacon and Macy. Otherwise, she could simply have suggested that they ask if Tommy could play with Eric at Deacon's house.
@@FayeIL this is actually the part that I didn't catch the first time when watching this, and which is completely altering my perception of this storyline now. In a situation like this, the number one responsibility of everyone involved is to make the chiId feel _safe._ Deacon and Macy have been doing that, by creating situations where they could show Little Eric how everyone was getting along and how he was surrounded by love (inviting Amber to go to the beach with them, inviting Rick and Amber to the wedding). Rick and Amber have been doing the opposite by undermining Eric's relationship with Deacon and Macy, including Amber's objection at the wedding (which upset Little Eric), and her now telling him that he doesn't have to go to Deacon's if he doesn't want to (which signaIs to a small child that maybe he should not want to go there). Amber's fear that Deacon is going to "take Eric away" can easily be transferred to the child, and make him fear Deacon. And the fact that it hasn't happened already says a lot about the great job Deacon has been doing connecting with his kid.
@@annieo6527Absolutely. And this is *before* Amber’s stunt in kidnapping Little Eric. I think the writers shot themselves in the foot (as they frequently do) by making it seem as if Amber was justified in being terrified that Little Eric would be in danger or taken away, but then showing us over and over that Deacon and Macy are *good* for Little E, and that all they wanted was to be a part of his life before the Forrester side escalated. The writers even have Deacon and Macy specifically praise the parenting job that Amber and Rick have done, and cite it as the reason why Lil E is such a good boy.
Just wanted to reiterate how much I like the actress who plays Deacon and Macy’s lawyer. She really does seem like an actual lawyer, both in demeanor and in the advice she’s giving (which I know is dialogue down to writing, but still). I wish there’d been a reason to keep her character on the show.
I had to skip the part because I can't watch that kind of stupidity, even if you're used to some of Ridge's stuff. But THAT was so disloyal to Sally, even though she always at his back when he took over Spectra. But apparently Ridge can't deal with good people.
From what we were told, this adoption hearing was requested by Rick and Amber, not Deacon and Macy. In other words, this is not about Deacon trying to get custody (which, as Eric's IegaI guardian, I assume he already has - and _still_ he lets Little Eric live with Rick and Amber), this hearing is about Amber and Rick wanting to _end_ Deacon's parental rights by adopting the child. Rick and Amber keep talking about how Deacon and Macy are trying to take the chiId away from them, when in reality it is the other way around. Deacon is encouraging Little Eric's relationship with Rick and Amber, while Rick and Amber have expressed that they don't like having to share the kid with Deacon and Macy, and that is their reason for fiIing for adoption.
This is exactly why I don’t feel sorry for them for loosing Eric and actually encourage Deacon taking him away from them. This whole situation is because THEY don’t want deacon (and Macy) involved with the child, and the only reason deacon is involving lawyers is to be involved at all. They are accusing them of doing the very same thing they are doing, yet want to act like deacon and Macy are the bad guys here.
When this first aired I didn’t watch regularly, but watching all the episodes now, it really is galling how awful Rick and Amber are - and then they have the nerve to play the victim. Deacon has clearly made *every* opportunity to avoid a custody battle and to share Little Eric, which is the fairest thing to do. But people with the last name “Forrester” don’t understand what “share” means.
@@FayeILI was watching back then, but rewatching and commenting now I have the same impression. Suddenly I'm seeing all the times that Deacon is genuinely trying to work with Amber and Rick, and all the times that they try to keep him away from Little Eric while cIaiming that he's the one starting a custody battIe. Like the other day when Deacon _brought Eric home to them,_ Eric was all happy to be home with Rick and Amber but _also_ happy to have connected with Deacon and Macy (an ideal shared custody situation because the kid was clearly thriving) and after Deacon left, Amber started crying about how horrible this was and how confusing it would be for Eric to have two homes, and talked about how they had to adopt Eric to avoid sharing custody with Deacon.
I dont know what the stans are celebrating. They literally won Ridge at his worst - not just age and looks wise, but ethically and morally as well! Its shameful how they'll cheer anyone who puts Brooke on a pedestal and condemn everyone who speaks the truth.
horrible that Ridge wants to give Spectra to Brook at Sally's expense, she so does not deserve it. And why did Massimo say ok? Do these people have worms for brains/
It's all about Brooke. Brooke must be CEO, Brooke must win against Macy, Brooke must get Ridge. It's infuriating how all other characters must lose their self respect, worth and brains just to accommodate Brad's tramp. BE was smart to leave this show when she did or they would have ruined Macy just as they did Taylor. It's a pity Taylor returned to this sham.
Apparently the judge is a fan of Macy's singing and it is implied that this may be to her advantage. This certainly is a change from 1995, when Lt. Burke was fairly unimpressed by Thorne and Macy's celebrity status and would not take them seriously no matter how much fan maiI -they- Macy got.
The judge openly acknowledging he was a fan of Macy’s was a big legal no-no. IRL that would be very clear grounds for an appeal by Amber and Rick on the grounds of bias.
@@galoutlaw8089 one that he didn't need. it was an adoption hearing - and it would take a lot for the judge to agree to an adoption against the wishes of an involved and capabIe biological parent. Deacon already had a _fair_ advantage.
RME at Sally calling Brooke “Malibu Barbie” (more like meth addict Grandma Malibu barbie) . . .even her worst enemies are forced to praise her “beauty”🙄
Sally, I warned you in 2002 that you better have that condition getting into any written agreement. 😅In 2002 we already had Ridge wanting to change the name of the company to his own, regardless of his talk about his respect for Sally. Now, in 2003 Ridge is again pushing for the name change, this time to Brooke's, regardless of his _respect_ for Sally.
Yes! Sally should have got quite a few things in writing back then. As it is, she is getting the exact opposite of what Ridge and Massimo promised her. She loses her position _and_ the name.
i think the blood results were wrong. i think massimo isn't ridge's father i think it's eric because ridge thinks with his man parts only just like eric. this is also stupid because massimo has the final say but bell will conviently leave that out and make that not the case.
Exactly. I chalk it up to Mass wanting to be close to his son so bad he’s willing to agree to anything he wants, even if it’s at a good friends expense. He should have sided with Sally since they didn’t NEED to bring Brooke on board to save the company. They were already doing well this whole thing was just to give Brooke something else she didn’t earn…once again.
@lil_jon411 Are you not in sink. Why were they doing well come on tell me. They were ok because ridge was designer. If ridge leaves which he said he would if brooke wasn't given the position. Well sally would have clark 🤣🤣🤣
@ good business move? only if you call the company ho-gans. the only reason ridge thinks this is a good idea is so he can win brooke away from nick. notice soon as brooke took a company yet again from someone else she was also like nick who? why not start her own company? no she just takes everyone elses. this is sally's company she worked hard for yrs. she faked the heart but massimo has done many sneaky things. massimo doesn't like this idea he just doesn't want to lose his son. his hands are tied. there is a big difference.
Not Ridge talking about how Logan Designs was necessary to really take the company to new heights and put them on the map, when Logan Designs ended up a mere parenthesis in the show's history. Did they even have one fashion show?
@@-Lily7415 lol.. yes I know you love him. I found him refreshing too (considering the limited choice of men). But I only liked him when he wasn't fawning over Brooke.
If we put aside the unfairness of Ridge s choice, Why does he has to change the name of the company? With his designs, Clarke and Tony contributions and Sally amd her employees, he created a great line all the fashion world appreciated giving value to Spectra name. That's not a good move. Logan designs who?
First Caroline, then Taylor challenged Ridge to be a better man. That doesn't mean they forced him to change but they helped him to be a better humang being, less focused on triviality. Brooke cant be his saving grace. She is not good to take care of herself or her kids. And he will never be happy again. Five minutes under the s h ee ts, a fancy dinners at Caffe Rousse, big plans fot their weddings can' t be enough.
And again...spoiled little ridgie boy and his matress of the day, are " starting" a company. Afcourse with other peoples money, and someone else company😂😂😂😂😂 yeah the easy way. Never worked hard a day those 2. Just pretending , playing kids.😅
😂 They would have been fair if they would admit that. But noooo....Brooke had the nerve to say she worked all her life to make FC a successful company! She worked a lot, it's true...to be married to many Forresters as possible. Guess? All! Except her son. Good job. She must be CEO of a BORDELLO 😂
“You’re welcomed to stay on at the company” how generous of Brooke to let the original owners of Spectra stay on at the business THEY started. The audacity of this tramp
That is the way you do things.
@@matejhorvath522how you do things is not stealing peoples family businesses and then acting like your doing them a favor letting them keep working there
Its business
@@lil_jon411she didnt steal anything Massimos companis bought it and shes CEO and thats normal business
She doesn't deserve Ridge or any Forrester.
If ridge is so insistent on going into business with Brooke and he believes in her talent so much, why not just start up their own company? Why do they HAVE to steal a company, especially Sally’s business after everything her and Macy have done for them?
Macy has been running from a man to a man and hitting a Bottle. What does Ridge owe her exactly 😅 i LOVED that Nooooo Sallly was screaming after seeing Brooke 😂
Because you fail to understand Ridge cares less for ginger sally. Its his way of winning back brooke. You see he really cares about her and believes in her. As explained its easier to take a company which is up and running than start fresh or were you not paying attention as usual in the clouds 😅😅😅
He is renaming the company "LOGAN Designs", what more proof to show he believes in her talent? They are just using the Spectra building and workshop. Spectra as a brand, is thrown in the garbage, They are not using Spectra as a well known name and successful company. If it wasn't Spectra's resources, they would just have to use another building.
Of course indeed he is ungrateful after everything Sally and especially Macy have done for them. Ridge isn't the nicest person ever.
@@Html962 what does Ridge owe Macy? Macy just helped his father get his company back five minutes ago.
@@lil_jon411
Ridge took Sally's business long before brooke had anything to do with it.
Is there a time difference or does Rosmary spam the comments later because that’s when the nursing home allows internet access?
LMAO 😂
😂😂🤣💀
I think it's both😂😂
That scene with Amber where she kept trying to get Little Eric to repudiate Deacon and Macy and he’s all “girl, I *do* like them, I just want to hang with my boy Tommy at your pool for one day, chill” was legitimately hilarious. Literally nobody with a working brain would listen to this exchange and think “Little Eric doesn’t want to spend time with Deacon and Macy, better give the Forresters custody ASAP.”
It's like she _wants_ Little Eric to not want to spend time with Deacon and Macy. Otherwise, she could simply have suggested that they ask if Tommy could play with Eric at Deacon's house.
@@annieo6527Yes!
@@FayeIL this is actually the part that I didn't catch the first time when watching this, and which is completely altering my perception of this storyline now. In a situation like this, the number one responsibility of everyone involved is to make the chiId feel _safe._ Deacon and Macy have been doing that, by creating situations where they could show Little Eric how everyone was getting along and how he was surrounded by love (inviting Amber to go to the beach with them, inviting Rick and Amber to the wedding). Rick and Amber have been doing the opposite by undermining Eric's relationship with Deacon and Macy, including Amber's objection at the wedding (which upset Little Eric), and her now telling him that he doesn't have to go to Deacon's if he doesn't want to (which signaIs to a small child that maybe he should not want to go there).
Amber's fear that Deacon is going to "take Eric away" can easily be transferred to the child, and make him fear Deacon. And the fact that it hasn't happened already says a lot about the great job Deacon has been doing connecting with his kid.
@@annieo6527Absolutely. And this is *before* Amber’s stunt in kidnapping Little Eric.
I think the writers shot themselves in the foot (as they frequently do) by making it seem as if Amber was justified in being terrified that Little Eric would be in danger or taken away, but then showing us over and over that Deacon and Macy are *good* for Little E, and that all they wanted was to be a part of his life before the Forrester side escalated. The writers even have Deacon and Macy specifically praise the parenting job that Amber and Rick have done, and cite it as the reason why Lil E is such a good boy.
Just wanted to reiterate how much I like the actress who plays Deacon and Macy’s lawyer. She really does seem like an actual lawyer, both in demeanor and in the advice she’s giving (which I know is dialogue down to writing, but still). I wish there’d been a reason to keep her character on the show.
Ridge has forgotten what Deacon and Macy has done to give Eric his company back that's so sad for Sally and family 😮
Ridge was wrong for what he did bringing Brooke in like that when sally was ceo!
I had to skip the part because I can't watch that kind of stupidity, even if you're used to some of Ridge's stuff. But THAT was so disloyal to Sally, even though she always at his back when he took over Spectra. But apparently Ridge can't deal with good people.
Now Ridge is only thinking of his happiness especially wanting Brooke back to distract the relationship Brooke and Nicky boy have hhhhh
From what we were told, this adoption hearing was requested by Rick and Amber, not Deacon and Macy. In other words, this is not about Deacon trying to get custody (which, as Eric's IegaI guardian, I assume he already has - and _still_ he lets Little Eric live with Rick and Amber), this hearing is about Amber and Rick wanting to _end_ Deacon's parental rights by adopting the child.
Rick and Amber keep talking about how Deacon and Macy are trying to take the chiId away from them, when in reality it is the other way around. Deacon is encouraging Little Eric's relationship with Rick and Amber, while Rick and Amber have expressed that they don't like having to share the kid with Deacon and Macy, and that is their reason for fiIing for adoption.
Indeed
This is exactly why I don’t feel sorry for them for loosing Eric and actually encourage Deacon taking him away from them. This whole situation is because THEY don’t want deacon (and Macy) involved with the child, and the only reason deacon is involving lawyers is to be involved at all. They are accusing them of doing the very same thing they are doing, yet want to act like deacon and Macy are the bad guys here.
When this first aired I didn’t watch regularly, but watching all the episodes now, it really is galling how awful Rick and Amber are - and then they have the nerve to play the victim. Deacon has clearly made *every* opportunity to avoid a custody battle and to share Little Eric, which is the fairest thing to do. But people with the last name “Forrester” don’t understand what “share” means.
@@FayeILI was watching back then, but rewatching and commenting now I have the same impression. Suddenly I'm seeing all the times that Deacon is genuinely trying to work with Amber and Rick, and all the times that they try to keep him away from Little Eric while cIaiming that he's the one starting a custody battIe. Like the other day when Deacon _brought Eric home to them,_ Eric was all happy to be home with Rick and Amber but _also_ happy to have connected with Deacon and Macy (an ideal shared custody situation because the kid was clearly thriving) and after Deacon left, Amber started crying about how horrible this was and how confusing it would be for Eric to have two homes, and talked about how they had to adopt Eric to avoid sharing custody with Deacon.
Exactly
9:04 Clarke's reaction at seeing Brooke was hilarious! 😂
Love Clarke 😂
i knew it. i knew they were going to screw over macy in this. bell just couldn't help himself. so gross.
Yepee go ridge go brooke. Queen macy is dead long live queen brooke 😅😅😅
Now Mossimo should’ve stopped Ridge
I dont know what the stans are celebrating. They literally won Ridge at his worst - not just age and looks wise, but ethically and morally as well!
Its shameful how they'll cheer anyone who puts Brooke on a pedestal and condemn everyone who speaks the truth.
Brooke's rapid aging caused Sally to faint.
No probably the excess weight 😅😅😅
@@rosmarygiovani Of Forrester semen?
horrible that Ridge wants to give Spectra to Brook at Sally's expense, she so does not deserve it. And why did Massimo say ok? Do these people have worms for brains/
@@annlavine3576 sally was right when she said Massimo is terrified to lose Ridge.
Sally is already an employee and Ridge saved the company this is typical business but you lot just hate bec its Brooke
@@hraslan No I hate this because it is unfair to Sally
It's all about Brooke. Brooke must be CEO, Brooke must win against Macy, Brooke must get Ridge. It's infuriating how all other characters must lose their self respect, worth and brains just to accommodate Brad's tramp.
BE was smart to leave this show when she did or they would have ruined Macy just as they did Taylor. It's a pity Taylor returned to this sham.
@@galoutlaw8089 i could not agree more
U&ly Brooke. L o o k like raptor.
This is one of the worst things Ridge has ever done
Cruel.
*Thumbnail:* Is Ronn Moss trying to revive his singing career? Why is he kissing Max Martin?
Huh?
I don’t like Brooke the character but why are we attacking the actresses looks? Katherine Kelly Lang is a beautiful woman.
@@Pete_Murphy_Love No she's not.
@@34Jackson of course she is. 🤣
@@Pete_Murphy_Love No he's not.
Alright when are they going to upload all of season 9?
Apparently the judge is a fan of Macy's singing and it is implied that this may be to her advantage.
This certainly is a change from 1995, when Lt. Burke was fairly unimpressed by Thorne and Macy's celebrity status and would not take them seriously no matter how much fan maiI -they- Macy got.
The judge openly acknowledging he was a fan of Macy’s was a big legal no-no. IRL that would be very clear grounds for an appeal by Amber and Rick on the grounds of bias.
@@FayeILit was clearly put in the scene just to make us root for Amber.
@@annieo6527 Yes, to show Deacon had an unfair advantage
@@galoutlaw8089 one that he didn't need. it was an adoption hearing - and it would take a lot for the judge to agree to an adoption against the wishes of an involved and capabIe biological parent. Deacon already had a _fair_ advantage.
RME at Sally calling Brooke “Malibu Barbie” (more like meth addict Grandma Malibu barbie) . . .even her worst enemies are forced to praise her “beauty”🙄
Brooke & Ridge look totally 💯 unconcerned that Sally is having a heart attack ❤😮
Well good for them because she is faking it like queen stephanie will do later on to make ridge choose taylor over brooke.
😂 like the other day when Amber was on top of Macy at the wedding.
Sally was seen just looking over like nothing
@-Lily7415
I guess she wanted gladys to video it
@@rosmarygiovani 😂
Tired of the gaslighting by Ridge
Sally had a ❤ attack because of the Mattress
Stephen and Sal sure know how to fake it.
@Html962 😅😅
Amber's criminal record 🚔
Sally, I warned you in 2002 that you better have that condition getting into any written agreement. 😅In 2002 we already had Ridge wanting to change the name of the company to his own, regardless of his talk about his respect for Sally.
Now, in 2003 Ridge is again pushing for the name change, this time to Brooke's, regardless of his _respect_ for Sally.
Yes! Sally should have got quite a few things in writing back then. As it is, she is getting the exact opposite of what Ridge and Massimo promised her. She loses her position _and_ the name.
i think the blood results were wrong. i think massimo isn't ridge's father i think it's eric because ridge thinks with his man parts only just like eric. this is also stupid because massimo has the final say but bell will conviently leave that out and make that not the case.
No massimo just realised what a fake sally is. He also knows a good business move when he sees it. You are not very bright are you.
No, that SL soon gives Massimo a reason to turn his back on Sally. No one likes to get played for a fool.
Exactly. I chalk it up to Mass wanting to be close to his son so bad he’s willing to agree to anything he wants, even if it’s at a good friends expense. He should have sided with Sally since they didn’t NEED to bring Brooke on board to save the company. They were already doing well this whole thing was just to give Brooke something else she didn’t earn…once again.
@lil_jon411
Are you not in sink. Why were they doing well come on tell me. They were ok because ridge was designer. If ridge leaves which he said he would if brooke wasn't given the position. Well sally would have clark 🤣🤣🤣
@ good business move? only if you call the company ho-gans. the only reason ridge thinks this is a good idea is so he can win brooke away from nick. notice soon as brooke took a company yet again from someone else she was also like nick who? why not start her own company? no she just takes everyone elses. this is sally's company she worked hard for yrs. she faked the heart but massimo has done many sneaky things. massimo doesn't like this idea he just doesn't want to lose his son. his hands are tied. there is a big difference.
Not Ridge talking about how Logan Designs was necessary to really take the company to new heights and put them on the map, when Logan Designs ended up a mere parenthesis in the show's history. Did they even have one fashion show?
And also, why on earth is he giving the company a new name nobody knows. That's not a good move. It should have been his name at least.
@@annieo6527 But I'm guessing Ridge got what he wanted "right here and now"
@@babs4848Exactly,or keep Spectra the name.
Thumbnail looks like Steven Tyler kissing Linda McMahon.
This is a bad idea Ridge
sally forgot that before ridge they were ready to close the shop
Brooke looks so beautiful ❤️
U&ly Brooke. Too u&ly for Ridge.
It doesn't suit Nick to look nearly homeless in such a formal office building.
I feel his stench through the screen despite the time difference of 2 decades.
@@galoutlaw8089You stink😂
Just kidding.
You know I love JW
They should have dressed him professionally.
@@-Lily7415 lol.. yes I know you love him. I found him refreshing too (considering the limited choice of men). But I only liked him when he wasn't fawning over Brooke.
Yeah this rough captain cigarre smoking style is irritating and tiresome
Ridge saving Brooke, at any cost.....tragic
Tell him no massimo
If we put aside the unfairness of Ridge s choice, Why does he has to change the name of the company? With his designs, Clarke and Tony contributions and Sally amd her employees, he created a great line all the fashion world appreciated giving value to Spectra name.
That's not a good move. Logan designs who?
Bridge ❤❤....yes
🤢 🤢🤢
First Caroline, then Taylor challenged Ridge to be a better man.
That doesn't mean they forced him to change but they helped him to be a better humang being, less focused on triviality.
Brooke cant be his saving grace. She is not good to take care of herself or her kids.
And he will never be happy again. Five minutes under the s h ee ts, a fancy dinners at Caffe Rousse, big plans fot their weddings can' t be enough.
18:40 well it surely burned to the ground.
Deacon love Brook yet!!
And again...spoiled little ridgie boy and his matress of the day, are " starting" a company.
Afcourse with other peoples money, and someone else company😂😂😂😂😂 yeah the easy way.
Never worked hard a day those 2.
Just pretending , playing kids.😅
😂 They would have been fair if they would admit that. But noooo....Brooke had the nerve to say she worked all her life to make FC a successful company!
She worked a lot, it's true...to be married to many Forresters as possible. Guess? All! Except her son.
Good job. She must be CEO of a BORDELLO 😂
I don't understand how brooke can look at ridge, he's so two faced!!
@@VanessadoraHill She can look at them with each of her own 2 faces