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Silver Stacking - American Silver Eagle or Canadian Silver Maple Leaf?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video I talk about the pros and cons of stacking American Silver Eagle Coins and Canadian SIlver Maple Leaf Coins. This debate has been around for a while and many people are torn between the 2 silver coins. On one hand American Silver Eagles are Extremely Liquid and Recognized and on the other hand Canadian Silver Maple Leafs have anti-counterfeiting technology and are more pure. I go in depth and go over every difference between the 2 silver coins and try to cover all aspects of stacking both of them. I cover the negative aspects such as the Canadian Silver Maple Leaf milk spot issue and the higher premium on the American Silver Eagle. I hope that by the end of the video I can help you decide which one to stack in the Canadian Silver Maple Leaf vs Silver Eagle debate!
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Topics I cover in this video: canadian silver maple leaf, canadian silver maple leaf coin, canadian silver maple leaf vs silver eagle, canadian silver maple leaf milk spots, canadian silver maple leaf value, canadian silver maple coins, american silver eagles, american silver eagle vs canadian silver maple leaf, american silver eagle or canadian silver maple leaf, silver stacking
It's amazing watching this video from 3years ago and see how much things have changed in the insane premium increase for eagles. I started stacking March of 2022 and I started stacking Maples for their beauty, price and purity. I looked at the Eagles and they were already way more expensive than the Maples and the Britannias. Great video
Eagle is 5buck above spot now.
I'd like to make the argument that the maple has the queens face on it. The silver maple should be more liquid in whatever country's that have the queens face on their currency and I believe there's 29 countries that currently use her face.
Mellow Stacker that is incredibly terrible to have one persons face on the currency in 29 countries 😮 wow 🔥🐉
@@SilverDragons47 but the comparison point wasn't whether or not the Queen's face is acceptable. It was based on recognition status, which as the above author reasonably notes makes the SML a highly recognizable coin outside of Canada. Just saying.
"there's 29 countries that currently use her face." To poop on!
Well, you can't buy advertising like that.
Looking at these replies I see why other countries hate our egos. 🤣😂🤣
Canadian maples, are superior because they are priced closer to spot. American eagles cost almost 2x the premium.
GP100 __ maples usually are cheaper so I think a lot of people would agree that makes them better for that alone! 👍🏽🔥🐉
It depends on where you are. For me eagles are closer to spot.
@@michaelm1850
Where are you at?
@@paperclip6993 manitoba canada
eagles will get you spot price plus a premium when u sell
If you’re in the US American Eagles are great because if you sell them to a dealer it is NOT a taxable event.
I know certain states have sales tax exemption on some precious metal bullion, but can't find anywhere online saying its not a taxable event when selling... can you cite your source?
@@eprom239 If you can buy it tax free doesn't it stand to reason that you can sell it tax free?
@@eprom239he's wrong, there's just no form. It is a taxable event and you do owe taxes on the coins.
I’m gonna be stacking Maples because of the premiums on Eagles which is extortionate currently and I don’t see it coming down any time soon.
Brittanias are beautiful too
that's my teqniue as well. also Brittanias an krugerands! ASE premiums are rediculous
I love the maples. Have them in 1oz, 1.5 oz., 2 oz. and 10 oz. The 10 ouncers are like a hockey pucks!!!
Variety is big, I haven't seen 10 oz ASEs bars or other themed Bullion coin like the Canadian mint.
AurumArgentum lol yeah the big ones also have great detail 👍🏽🔥🐉
"Hockey pucks" is q giveaway that you are canadian.
@@doubaya2959 Nope. In America actually.
Just order 10oz for 410$ after tax and shipping fees for the maples. Is that a good price??? They charge me 38$ for 1 oz.
I can appreciate a fellow Americans pride for there country as I am American myself, born and raised. With that being said I have to say I feel your evaluation or comparison seemed a little bias to be honest. Some of your comments I would like to comment on: First thing is that excessive minting decreases the value of coins, it doesn’t add to the value. If things get bad the denomination will matter in a grocery store or or purchases of goods, they won’t just give you melt/spot value of the sovereign currencies. Bartering on the other hand maybe, and when in a barter situation purity could make a difference. Also the eagles are more popular with American investors and is not so much the same case with foreign investors/collectors. Though I love the eagles the truth is the maples are manufactured from start to finish with a much higher standard by far. They refine there silver for higher purity and then make there blanks/coins from start to finish. The eagles are just stamped on silver blanks from the SMI’s blood sweat and tears and then our US mint tacks on a ridiculously greedy premium before it leaves the building which leads to much higher prices because the dealers need to make money too. The liquidity is great on both coins. As far as far as recognizable the eagle is definitely 1st maple a close second. The eagles were being minted way before the maples so that is the main reason. I am a proud American and I collect them both and prefer the looks of the eagles But honestly would have to give the Maple the lead as far a a true value for a product that was made with much higher standards and craftsmanship with high attention to detail. And if anyone can get all that for less money (usually) that’s a win win in my book!
mintage is a good thing when it comes to BULLION coins. denomination doesn’t matter to me because eventually the canadian dollar and US dollar will be worthless... silver won’t 🔥🐉
Great comment. Agreed with everything you said.
@@SilverDragons47 Maples have security features & don't get milk spots. That alone makes it better.
As a kid we tried making 1/2 Dollars using two paper cups filled with paper mache as a mold. Once the mole was made we lined each half with melted silver solder, let it dry and then poured melted lead into the mold. Once the lead solidified we could tear the paper cup and paper mache away from the coin.
The plan became to use them in vending machines rather than trying to pass them off in store were we might get caught, but we could never get the weight perfect enough to trip the mechanism on the vending machines. So we finally gave up on that plan and tried to make copies of $5.00 bills and use them in the change machine at the laundry. That didn't work either.
There were three of us in this enterprise. One went on to be a lawyer. I later became a stock broker and the third guy went to own a junk yard but ended up in state prison for car theft.
In retrospect, it would have been easier to just to use a crow bar and break into the machines.
I live in Canada, so Location is a factor . The Canadian mint doesn't just make Maple leaf bullion but a wider Variety of Bullion Coin.
Kerris L Ravenhill yes they do have a much larger offering than the US Mint for sure 👍🏽🔥🐉
Csn i order them from your mint ?
SIZE DOSNT MATTER DENOMINATION DOSNT MATTER LMAO
Can i buy these through your CANADIAN mint i live in Lake Placid NEW YORK i can drive there even
@@adkviking69shofner98 us canadian mint ships to us
Looks lke to me the 3 most important aspects of these coins goes to the maple. Purity, Anti counterfeit and price
anti counterfeit technology is being added to the ASE in 2021 🔥🐉
It looks terrible compared though..so if you just want weight, bars. Beauty? Definitely the american
We should have the win with the maples, because we give everybody maple syrup
Imagine no maple syrup.
Pretty easy since I go months without it at times
In my book it's kind of like asking if I like blondes or brunettes better lol. Thanks for sharing and take care.
I like them both!
Clayton County History Hound lol I do like them both as well 😏🔥🐉
I agree with the analogy, but I prefer redheads.
Blondes are easier to find in the dark.
It’s what in the inside that counts. Haha get it ? ;)
@@chickenray182 As a blond woman, I approve your comment! LOL!
Why not stack both ? the same thing gets to be boring pretty quickly
Silver/Stanger yeah I think I might dabble with the Maples a bit 😏🔥🐉
I stack both. nothing else.
@@sinjin6219 me too
I can't get tired of the maple leaf
@@sinjin6219 u should consider the silver Krugerrand, beautiful coin cheaper than Eagles & Maples, and the best security amongst all 1 oz silver coins
Beauty is in the eye of the holder.
I like them both and purchase depending on the price over spot.
C Sanchez very good stack those maples! 🔥🐉
As a beginner I really liked your knowledgeable and informative video. You have much less superfluous blabbing and much more info. Thank you! Well done!
Dan Washam awesome thanks for watching! 🔥🐉
I stack whats cheaper. I recently purchased 50 Britannias for .75 cents over spot. I do love Eagles and stack them, but I prefer Major nation coins that are low premium. I'm buying Silver. I also like 10 oz bars a lot.
Obverse - ASE ✅
Reverse - Maple ✅
Silver Heist you nailed it!
Silver Heist maybe once the queen dies they will improve the maples obverse 🔥🐉
Long live the Queen! 👸
Silver Heist honestly I would take charlie over Lizzy
Dead on
In time the maple leaf may have more buyers because it is fine silver.(the medical antibiotics requires 9999 fine)
Jeff Koehne I don’t think I will be around during those times but it is possible 👍🏽🔥🐉
I make colloidal silver .I expect excellent quality,in my position I prefer eagles over the leaf.the eagles have a slight better quality.this makes me think the 9999 is just lip service
If I was American, stack eagles. As a Canadian I stack maples. I prefer smaller denomination for border crossing declaration.
Kevin Fulop OOOOOOOOOH I like that argument for the smaller denomination 👍🏽🔥🐉
Declare the face value on the coin, not the silver value.
Is there tax on silver in Canada?
No tax in Canada for silver coins, bars but there is tax on silver collectibles like silver spoons, dishes etc
@@donsullivan6199 No tax whatsoever on precious metals, both bullion and collector coins, as long as they are pure.
I stack both coins.
Omar T great way to do it! diversity! 🔥🐉
Love both of these. Plan on buying a stack of each every year now.
You forgot that lower minting numbers mean higher collect-ability so the maples will go higher in price because there were not as many printed. Collectors would choose Maples for that reason alone.
no actually they are still made by the million and have literally no collector value except for the 1997 🔥🐉
I agree Burke. SD isn't factoring in time. He clearly isn't a numismatist.
When I was just into silver I picked up as many maple leafs as I could I disagree with you that American silver Eagles are beautiful I just think their plane and the maple leafs attract my eye more
Not sure if this was mentioned in the comments, but you can authenticate the new maples with the "Bullion DNA" machine. I've personally seen it in action and it works. Literally takes seconds to confirm if the maple you have is real or fake.
I personally dont like anything with the Queen on it so I'm stacking ASEs ..thanks for the videos , I've only been stacking for 3 months but you have taught me a lot
dankjones40 👍🏻👍🏻
dankjones40 I am also much more into the ASE... thanks so much my friend! 🔥🐉
Always remember this silver is silver is silver
Man why does the beautiful coin with the eagle and the face of liberty have to cost more than the one with the leaf and the evil old lady
Been stacking for 2 years now, have a good mix of bars, generic rounds, Maples and some ASE's, but the premium that on-line and LCS want for ASE's has gotten ridiculous. with Silver coming down in the last two days I bought more Maples and got more for my money because of the much lower premium than ASE's. It's more about total ounces for me than what type of silver but if I can get more for my money and buy a premium product like Maples, then thats just good business...lol. Just my 2 cents worth.
Every Maple has an extra penny of silver in it. LoL
For me it came down to price. I bought two monster boxes. Silver is silver to me. They were cheaper so that’s what I bought. As far as beautiful coins go nothing beats the Austrian Philharmonics. I bought a monster box of those too! They are also 999.9!
I am planning to diversify across Eagles (50%), Leaves (25%) and Britannias (25%).
they are the best!
If the price of silver somehow drops , ( Or is no longer traded because of Government interference)....the Canadian maple will still be worth 5 dollars. If you think this is lunacy....you didn't live in the '30's....when the government did exactly just that !
Just want to throw this out there, I’ve been stacking for 5 years now, i learned all about stacking bc I regularly make colloidal silver. I used to watch videos on colloidal silver production, and came across stacking videos here and there. One day I wanted to try a bar instead of a rod bc I was making larger batches, ordered it in the mail, and when the piece arrived (silver eagle), I fell in love w the beauty it contained. Been stacking ever since, but now primarily as investment. Anyways, I always note how many 9’s there are. For me, it’s a no brainer. Silver colloids are serious stuff, but that’s another story. If you ever want the real deal facts, there’s a forum, just type “cgcs” and you’ll have filtered out endless bogus info. LOVE YOUR VIDEOS SILVER DRAGON.
wow that is crazy you discovered stacking after colloidal silver! very cool my friend 👍🏽🔥🐉
Great vid, like your channel. Thanks!
BUT you're obviously biased toward the Eagle ;) You were arguing for the eagles as opposed to comparing and making an objective conclusion (especially in quality and liquidity categories). I'm biased toward the maple lol
Thanks for your work and for the conversation!
PapaJoeB lol yes I am biased. thanks for watching and stack on!! 🔥🐉
You brought up some good points. How ever, if you live in Canada or the US, both are easy to acquire and sell.
Here in Canada, an ASE is Uber easy to get. I have many friends in the US, and they purchase CSM anytime they want.
(In normal times that is...Lol) Keep in mind both are "Currency". It makes them very unappetizing to counterfeit. Great vid. Cheers
Peace from Montreal buddy! Would you say 20$ cash is a good deal right now for pre 67 Canadian silver dollars from LCS? I see them busting 23-29$ a pop on eBay! Thanks for your opinion from a new stacker! 🙏🏻
I'm a ASE fan through and through. I do think the anti-Counterfeiting devices on Canada are great. Not a debate for me at all. A very good video. I enjoyed it. ☺
Shirl Bussman yeah i’m all about the ASE myself 👍🏽🔥🐉
@@SilverDragons47 I just wish I had more of them. Sigh! One day I will. :-)
I'm Canadian, this is definitely one sided. The Maple is far superior..
Love your channel
Nice breakdown! CMLs were the first silver bullion I stacked. Now it’s all about the ASEs!! 👌🏼
What?! Yankee has switch side!
Eddies Little Stack I admitted as much 9 months ago! 😂 th-cam.com/video/8NW2Keh6rq8/w-d-xo.html
Yankee Stacking except in Gold 😂🔥🐉
@@YankeeStacking NOOO! You like the Maples better Yankee! Don't make me go all caps here haha!
Eddies Little Stack UGH!!! And my videos are 5 minutes long or under‼️🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think SD’s analysis is spot on. 👌🏼
The vast majority of my coin stack is Canadian Maple Leafs with a token amount of Eagles. In addition to the reasons listed above, I'm Canadian and biased. ❤👍❤
True that. Since I don't believe I have any in my collection, may I buy 5oz please? 😁
I am the opposite. I have a lot more Eagles than Maples but I live in the states. ;)
@@x00p3 Nothing wrong with that. When it comes to selling, it's probably easier to sell recognizable coins in your own country.
Bought my first maples last week. I think they are now more superior in quality. 🥈🥈🥈
Right now most shops are charging $15 premium over spot on Eagles!!!
I’m a late to this video but I just scored 29 maples and 3 eagles today for $1 over spot at my local dealer.
Great timing on your purchase
wow great deal!!! 🔥🐉
Is SPOT basically the melt price?
truth is within lol yes it’s the same
My local coin shop is an hour + away. Your videos are super helpful. I’m leaning towards the eagle. I think it would trade better in rural GA.
IMO, the categories that the Maple wins are the categories that matter. The categories the ASE wins are either a matter of opinion, or are impossible to prove. How do you determine that an ASE is more liquid than a Maple? More recognizable?
I got a bonus for selling eagles in Texas and lost money selling the maples.
Until the next time the ecconomy crashes both countries still compete ecconomically.
If you buy a maple then technically the money goes towards Canada.
Not everyone who buys bullion is from the US
@@briansavage5141 I never said everyone was from the US,
but I am and Silver Bagins is.
What I said can be applied vice versa or with any country.
Do I need to list every country in the world so you don't get offended ?
So your argument is that if Americans want to buy bullion that's most beneficial to America's economy, then they should buy ASE's or at least silver that's processed domestically. I agree with that, I just feel your point introduces biasness into a comparison that should strive to avoid it.
@@briansavage5141 In the long term, an ounce is an ounce but,
trying to make a quick buck could hurt people if they buy and sell foriegn metals.
Personally, I don't care about that. I wanted to hold on to them but, ended up
having to sell all my metals when i suddenly lost my job. I was just validating something
already mentioned in the video. These standards are not based on everyone's reasoning.
I do not represent anyone other than myself. I was just saying that I was robbed by "one"
dealer that i sold to.
Imagine a lil kiddo sneaking a 5oz A.T.B. quarter out of daddy's room to tryn stick it in a gumball machine.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🔥🐉
My brother once stole some rare coins that were worth hundreds of dollars a piece and bought candy with them. Rare coins wasted on a couple of dollars worth of candy. My parents weren't too happy.
Sunshine Mint with the S.I. Security feature on the reverse!!
pranksterguy1 yeah those are epic for sure! 🔥🐉
The dollar amount represents the value that the government will give you when it is confiscated.
You didn't mention the value when used for "Bribing". Which is best for bribing? Mike
Try not to think about someone taking something from you.... Try to manifest best case scenarios.
@@lordapophis5723 I travel to foreign countries, been in wars, seen money change in two countries (one in 24 hours), seen governments confiscate property (including the USA), seen people fight for inheritance, teach and did Counter-Terrorism work. Gold/Silver work well in these scenarios.
You don't use/need gold and silver for good case scenarios (in less you are a collector). Mike
@@nostressmike be that as it may, a negative mentality could be the thing that triggers negative occurrences. Stay positive my friend.
I'm alive because of my positive attitude. Lol
This video and my comment was made to help people in a positive manner. We share our experiences and knowledge with others that can find positive uses. You can take it or leave it. Mike
HA!
I guess the discussion is maples vs eagles, but the canadian mint has other denominations. I have 5 coins that are 1 oz but have a face value of $100
Both are great, American Eagle demand a higher premium but the Canadian Maples are 9999 fine Silver compared to 999 of the Eagle.
Just started learning about stacking and urs was one of the first vids I could tolerate without falling asleep. I’m binging ur playlists now. Thanks for the info🤙
lol glad I didn’t put you to sleep 😂🔥🐉
Very nice comparison dude! I just stack both, Thanks so much for the video!
Bruce Liggett thanks my friend! 🔥🐉
They're both really good 1 oz silver coins oh, the Canadian coin is 4 999s fine as the walking liberty is 3 999s fine... the maple leaf is a beautiful design with a lot of anti-counterfeiting technology in it... Love both coins though... Never had any milk spotting on any of my Canadian maple leafs silver coins... Great video keep them up...
Lanier thanks my friend and all of my old maples are milk spotted 😂🔥🐉
@@SilverDragons47 sorry to hear that brother but at least they're still pure silver that's what really matters oh, I do understand you want the nicest looking coin you can get I'm the same way... Got a year of the dog coin and it had milk marks on it... Was upset... Thanks for getting back brother have a wonderful day...
I stack the same amount of maples as I do eagles but I like the smaller diameter of the maple as opposed to the eagles. I just wish the eagles were the same size as the maples but both coins are perfect in their own ways. Hard to go wrong with picking either of these
Slick Silver never heard of anyone preferring the smaller size but hey they are thicker 👍🏽🔥🐉
@@SilverDragons47 yeah, I like the sizes of the Britannia and maples as opposed to the eagles.
@@SilverDragons47 I think what you are getting at is they are both 1 troy ounce of silver but what I'm saying is I prefer that smaller diameter of the maple as opposed to the larger eagles....hopefully this clears this up...lol
what happened to the queens crown on the newer maples ? i always wondered that. For every 100 maples you actually get 101 troy ounces, thats a great bonus from the mint its a "heavy" troy ounce per coin
(same with gold maple), plus the added .9 in purity means more silver. Eagles feel great in your hand and don't spot much, maples i always wear gloves because of the finish.
Jack I have never owned a “heavy” maple but I suppose it’s possible with their quality control issues 😂 her profile has changed 3 times 🔥🐉
Great video! I've watched others and I like your approach with the list of objective comps. Thanks much!
I prefer ASE's, they tend not to spot. only maybe 5 maples.
C-Rod yes 100% 👍🏽🔥🐉
The spotting issue has been eliminated unless you are referring to older coins.
I finally got a maple. 2019
Silver Wheels very cool Karen that’s a great year for them! 🔥🐉
Hey SB oops I mean SD, I personally think both of them are very nice and I only look at them as 1oz of Silver. Will be interesting to see which ones are more liquid even though the purity is different.
PNW Silver Stacker yeah I might stack a few maples just cuz 😏🔥🐉
It's all about the country you're in. Eagles here and Maples in Canada ect.
A detailed, high quality, precise, and consistent hallmark is all the security you need. As per why design changes really trigger me.
Short version - there both great coins.
Stack some of both
@Silver Dragons - on the prices thing you got my thinking, Canadian Maple vs Austrian Philharmonic, both are 1 once of silver AND a government coin... Mabey you could do a series? PLUS their is no queen! Gotta love that!
Eddies Little Stack 😮😮😮 what a great idea for the Phil!!! I might do a video thanks for the idea 🔥🐉
Love your videos! I always learn something new from your knowledge!❤👍🤛
Great video and very fair I was very biased to the maple leafs but the entire video was very informative for a very new stacker like myself.
Eagle for me! You should do a Tournament! I thought of doing a series like the Kumite (Bloodsport). Randomly putting the coins up to one another and having one winner.
Stacking Stormtrooper lol idk about the tournament but ASE is better in my eyes as well 🔥🐉
Silver Dragons im an idiot....lol.
17:03. You shouldn't base which is best based on personal bias. That's wrong. You should objectivly se which is best.
I stack both, with ASE being top dog. Recently dipped into the 2021 Britannia. My lcs will pay over spot for ASE and pretty much spot for anything else.
Time for you to find another LCS
did anyone mention that Canadian mint coins are not a counterfeit target but the Eagles are ? way more likely to see USA counterfeit coins.
Depend on where you buy. I have found that if you buy online you take less of a loss on the Maples. Not by a huge margin but money is money and it will add up. The maple Leafs are also easier to get rid of in my area(Florida) as most shops are already full of Silver Eagles since they are more common. I used to stack bars and rounds but you really take a loss on those. As most sellers charge a premium on them but shops only want to give you melt value. With the Maples or Eagles you can usually get a buck or two premium back out of them.
yeah typically maples cost
less for sure especially right now 👍🏽🔥🐉
Great video. Really enjoyed it. Keep them coming
Randy Lyons thanks so much my friend I will! 🔥🐉
Canadian here. I enjoyed your video. Weigh both those raw coins on camera and then tell me they are even. That's being said, I agree with the even call on that metric because no one is paying by weight for maples or ASEs, they are paying by the weight stamped onto it.
Robert Ryan yeah you are right everyone purchases 1 ounce of silver with a premium over spot regardless of the actual weight... I actually did weigh them in a previous video it’s the 999 vs 9999 silver video... check it out you will be surprised I think 🔥🐉
@@SilverDragons47 When I weigh by grams, random year maples weight more than random year ASEs. My heaviest ASE weighs less than my lightest maple.
Robert Ryan not the case in my stack but that’s great for you 👍🏽🔥🐉
At today's prices, I look at the Maple as a $7.00 savings ROUND, that is also a COIN!, as compared to ASE's....Maples are the #1 'Round'. The closer you live to the Northern Border, the more Canadian coins are acceptable and recognizable. Gee, what if we had saved every US and Can. large copper penny. Being only 2 weeks away from age 99,I handled many of those giant pennies. I think there were some large 2-cent coins in circulation too. As a kid, Indian head pennies were more plentiful than were the 'Lincolns'.
Maple Leafs all the way. I want pure Silver and it's only $1.50 USD over spot in Canadian Coin Shops
it depends where you are. European stackers usually prefers Philharmonis, Britts, ArcheNoahs and Maples. ASE are quite expensive here, so no really a choice for stackers. Of course most of them some ASE, but it´s not the base of their stack.
newheavyion great point my friend! 🔥🐉
Excellent Informative Video. I learned a lot. Thanks. Out.
TIOMKIN1 thanks so much my friend! 🔥🐉
The best thing to buy is secondary market silver. Eagles and Maples will NEVER return their premiums. ALL silver/gold if sold will return less than spot.
Please don't tell me Eagles and Maples are more "recognized or trusted". Anyone purchasing precious metals will surely test it.
Kurt Henneberg if you can get great deals or under spot silver I say go for it my friend! 🔥🐉
Mahalo for a great video, very informative, lively presentation, little fluff. Your channel is really helping me learn this stuff!
thanks so much my friend! 🔥🐉
Thanks Mr. Dragons 💥💥 Awesome video good Sir 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 You big shots are bugging me with your ads now😂😂 Just teasing my friend 😊 Thanks for sharing my friend 💥💥 Still don’t know why the eagle don’t have a privy mark😐 Maybe some day👍🏻
VCcoins Nevada lol well thanks for watching my friend! 🔥🐉
I have both, and the Eagle is a work of art, it's NO contest.......I can stare at that coin for Minutes..........Maples are "okay", but kinda underwhelming in person, they look cool for 10 seconds, then you get bored, I only buy them because my shop has them cheap. Maple is definitely better than buying Generic crap, and a cheaper alternative to the Eagle.....and it's .9999....and they feel a tad beefier than Eagle, I think because it has a slightly larger rim. Like I said, I recommend the Maple to stock up.....but the Eagle if you have deeper pockets. I think the Eagle premiums are going to stay, don't count on them coming down.
Great info thanks
ASE for me. I prefer my milk in a glass 😉
Coin Sense And Nonsense lol me as well 😏🔥🐉
During the pandemic I was selling my eagles for $45each, silver eagles fetch a crazy premium during bad times and made me realize that eagles are the best to stack at least here in the usa, seriously people were begging me for more at $45 each, so crazy. I also sold a bunch of hand poured and cast bars for an insane price, was getting around $70-$80 an once for the poured or cast custom bars and rounds, people love those. But dang for coins eagles rule. That being said eagles are not my favorite coin, they just are the easiest to sell at a really high price, I actually dont understand why, kinda odd but I will stack what sells period, dont want to get stuck with a bunch of stuff no one wants when the time comes to sell. Maples are my number 2 coin to stack.
On the note of liquidity, given that the entire population of Canada is that of California alone, I'd say that Eagles are more liquid. There's just a larger domestic market for the Eagle in America than the Maple in Canada.
First of all. All silver bullion is good silver.
That said I do believe most of your points are very subjective and perhaps also colored by Americans being very patriotic.
* For recognition/liquidity I'd say they're very much on par in the rest of the world. The same goes for Philharmonics, Krugerrands, various Australians, even Pandas. We don't live in the 80es anymore an even small dealers have a great knowledge of all the mayor bullion manufacturers out there thanks to the globalized world (and internet). On top of that most even has high tech testing equipment. If anything has lower values it's all those special editions as some dealers don't want to bother with all those variations - it's not because they're unkown or have higher risks of being fakes. Even with cheap tools available to everybody you can be almost sure any coin is made out of what it claims to be - digital scale (and calibration weight), caliper, neodyminium magnet, app to analyze the ring tone when pinged is all you need and none of it is expensive anymore. It's all down to physics that works for you. No matter what test parameter you want to have equal compared to the original - then others will not be. Sure a collectors coin can be fake but of real material - but bullion is not collectors items so no benefit for counterfeiters to make 100% replicas in the right material as it's the material that's the expensive part - not the collectors value.
* Quality. I'm not sure it's as much the quality as it's the treatment after minting that causes milk spots - they're not cleaned as well for machining lubricants afterwards. Have you put older maples in an ultrasonic bath (in pure kerosene, cleaning gasoline - not sure of english name but consist almost of pure n-heptan, pure methanol or just even pure distilled water to avoid chalk spots) right after buying them - then they'd almost certainly still be flawless today. Not that milk spots matters if bullion value is what you're after.
Just a thought here. All sales are not going to be back to a dealer, so... depending on location and general knowledge, the selection might be more important.
milk spots lower the value of your coins 🔥🐉
@@SilverDragons47 I can't disagree that is has a little influence on price. But lets be honest. Most of those coins are bullion - not collectors coins. If you're smart you buy them "pre milkspotted". That way you get more silver for less and in the event that prices go up - the less significance milkspots will have making them the smartest buy.
And if/when prices hit the sky the less likely it becomes that you sell a coin to a private investor or coin dealer. By all chance it's going to be melted down and so milkspots are not significant.
As a Canadian I prefer the maples, and as an atheist I prefer the maples as they don’t say “in god we trust” that being said I would buy some eagles if my LCS had some for variety. Silver is silver LOVE IT ALL.
Ryan McKim great point I never thought of that being a reason people would not want the eagles 🤷🏽♂️ stack on! 🔥🐉
I like the eagles because it doesn't have a false idol on it
God comes in manu forms... atheist to atheist..
I love them both I stack more ase now because I live in the USA but deep down I think the maple is a more beautiful coin so after I get my goal on silver eagals I'll start getting alot more maples
silver stasher I might pick up some maples myself... I like the eagles better. stack on! 🔥🐉
I love the comparison! I have a different scale that I use out of 60 points and will have to put both of these on my scale to see who is the victor!
I have noticed even if I wear cotton gloves and touch Silver Maple Leaf coins by the edges they tend to fog up near the spots I touch them. How is this even possible? I do everything I can to provent this, but nothing seems to be a perfect solution. Nevertheless there were no permanent milk spots left though I am afraid they could appear in the future since I have the coins only for a short time.
yeah the heat of your hand will fog them 🔥🐉
I think us American stackers should have at least a monster box of each, or stack eagles to maples 3 or 4:1.
Good approach
Creekside Cubing a monster box of each is a good base for sure 👍🏽🔥🐉
Both coins are good for stacking IMO. I'm pro USA as they come but it doesn't bother me that the queen is on them. If push comes to shove its still silver just like the ASE's. Stack what you like/want. If you're stacking something you're already ahead of the curve. If you want a better deal go for the Maple Leafs. As for me, I'm stacking both!
Late to the convo but on the subject of beauty. I love the maple’s obverse. I think the eagles obverse is hideous and I can’t wait for the refresh. But on the reverse, the eagle wins. Walking liberty is my favorite coin design of all time. The queen’s profile does look nice but it isn’t as good. But if we are talking about proof and reverse proofs, the maples look incredible! I’d give them a draw on styling for the average coin.
I’m from Canada and right now the American eagles is like over 10$ more than the maple and Britannia
I stack them both because at the end of the day 1 ounce of silver is 1 ounce of silver and both are beautiful in their own right
Great video and explanation. I'm looking to purchase coins, and this video helped with your explanation. Thank you!
Interesting question. What do you think would happen if american silver eagles 2025 is backed by US for 50 dollars per ounce?
Just bought my first (3 total 2019 maples). Yes, they were cheaper but as far as noticeable quality I hate to break it to the Canucks they do not seem to have the quality & artistry as the ASE. The little marks are cool and all but ASE look better! I had intentions on stacking the maples exclusively (might still mix it up). Time for the ASE to update the date reverse side of coin.
yep the reverse of the ASE will be update in 2021 👍🏽🔥🐉
Fast forward to 2023, ASE'S premiums are roughly $8 more than Maples.
Just a thought, if the price of silver fell to below $5, wouldn't the denomination matter a bit more?
Brandon Swift I like said it would have to go below $3.70 USD to matter. I highly doubt that is even possible 🔥🐉
Yah I was trying to be cheeky 😝
Brandon Swift lol
I can’t believe you forgot to do the “ping/sound test” in the BEAUTY section😂.The ASE sounds nicer and longer when stricken by other coin,unlike the dull sounding Maple leaf.
yeah that is true 😂🔥🐉
Since the Maple is more pure, it probably has to do with the thinner shape of the Maple vibrating easier.
Cash still has it's advantages, you don't see people talking about wrinkles, recognition, quality and all that. Most people would take a hundred dollar bill even with booger on it. lol
Im about to pick up silver rounds and I’m leaning heavily towards the Canadian maple leaf or the Britannia’s im really not a fan of the American silver eagle. Its very lackluster to me and lacks security which is everything to me. That and the premiums are insane.