I'd never heard about this option from Polymaker, just the other two. Just ordered a spool from your link to try out. Will take a look at you plans as well.
Most excellent video, so insightful and helpful. How much filament does it take to print the Soarkraft gliders in the E-sun filament or light PLA? Thanks:)
regular PLA uses 420-450g of PLA. The e-Sun using my settings at 50% feed rate uses ~ 260g, 40% feed rate uses ~ 220g, or about 4 planes for 1 kg of material. As for the plane there is still carbon, servos, radio glue etc.. ~ 420g RTF The polymaker comes out to about 280-290g - so you almost get 3 planes out of a 800g spool.
i just puchased the overture air and was great my esun pla+ came in at .70 oz on a wing part set at 206 deg and speed 85 and 3 % infill . i did polymaker blace and with same setting came in at .51 oz. cost was 34 at amazon. i also bought the overture and with same setting it came in at .52 oz and strength same as the polymaker. it cost 18.00
Very nice test flight, very detail review of the process and very helpful for anyone in the same hobby, thank you for sharing. The final product will be released as PolyLite LW-PLA and will come on cardboard spools. Thank you for the suggestion, we will think about having different rate of pre-foamed material. For the colors, it seems that you have orange wing tips, would you like to see an orange version of the material? We would be interested in a partnership on some of your project to create content for our RC plane community, you can contact us directly if you are interested :)
Bright "neon" colors are a plus: orange, green, red, yellow... high contrast for visibility from far away. A 50% density that is easy to print would also be a winner and easily have a competitive advantage over the foaming type... the only thing the foaming type has better is that 17% lighter.
@@soarkraft Thank you for the suggestions, we will develop a few more bright colors to answer this need and we will study the feasibility for a 50% density easy to print filament.
Could you? yes, I have seen examples of skinning with carbon cloth or glass. Usually to try to improve a bad design, so so results. The added build time and cost vs desired outcome needs to be balanced.... I have vacuum bagged many foam wings and fuse designs. Its lots of work, time consuming, messy and not cheap (need the right tools and supplies). It takes practice to get good results..... Should you???? You can build however you want. Im having a great time just printing, CA and crash... and doing 100+mph in-between. Even molded carbon models will not survive my crashes.
Nice job! Do you have some experience or testing about warping because of heat? Direct sun exposure on the slope (air and ground) and car transporting? Im curious about how the polymaker material behave about warping! Thanks for the amazing content!
So I have had it in the sun for several hours and it was fine... even in black, but its 75 degreeF outside. All of my designs are supported with carbon strips and rods, so structure is not an issue. This is probably not going to stand up to Arizona summers or sitting in a sun baking car any better than regular PLA or the foaming stuff.... its the same material, and I don't know about other designs.
Cool comparison. But in my case, polymaker lw-pla has the almost same weight as petg. Does everybody know what should be changed to achieve lighter weight with this plastic?
Depends on what you are printing it with, I use Orca Slicer and a Bambu X1C and have to reduce the flow ratio to .92 to get the proper weight of 67% of regular PLA. Cura and a sidewinder did not have this problem, but Cura is terrible and the sidewinder is too slow.
this material is fantastic but I can't find it/find it in Italy, unfortunately the shipping prices raise the cost too much. I didn't want to risk my 3dprinter with a foamimg pla...I'll trust your review and for the price I'll take one..Aquila...and dedicate it only to LW-PLA....thanks for your excellent advice M.P.
I'm going to make a mold when my object is done, I need to extract the foaming PLA shapes out of my object. My question to you is this foaming pla easy to destroy and break apart like Styrofoam.
Sure???? but maybe not??? there is a lot going on in you project that you will have to figure out. This material is porous so you will need to seal the surface for it to "demold". Mold wax might do the trick. Still never dont this with this material, you are going to have to figure it out.
Delta wings are not necessarily faster until you are going close to or beyond Mach 1... The fastest RC airplane is a straight wing glider doing Dynamic Soaring - 564 mph. Delta wings look cool.
Hey. Excellent video I would love to get print settings for lw pla polymaker. I work with a BIQU B1 SE PLUS printer I really don't succeed unfortunately Thank you.
Could you dive into the electronics you use in these aircraft? I'd love to know what receiver, motor, transmitter, battery, etc. as a person who is getting into the hobby.
So I been using polylite for a while now and didnt even think about printing model plane parts. I wanted to for a while but couldn't bring myself to spend $45 a kilo for lw-pla. Polylite is pretty cheap in comparison to other lw-pla manufactures. I only have the traditional poly logo color atm. I will order another spool in white or yellow and give this a go. The only downside to ploylite filament is flow! I still have not printed a prefect part. I always find random banding, minor but still, it is frustrating. Im sure I can dial it in someday lol. Thank you for the video.
make sure you order the LW-PLA from polymaker, not just the "Polylite" if you want to try it... The best way I have found to ensure I get the right material is the spool should only have 800g of material on it. If it is a full 1Kg then it is just regular PLA
@@soarkraft Understood, I miss spoke. I just happen to have a spool of polylite, it was a good color to match my electronics bench and at $18 a spool on amazon, I picked it up not really understanding what I just purchased.
@@soarkraft if u r ever in northern California, check out pena adobe regional park in Vacaville CA. It's an awesome place for slope soaring. You could fly it at 1600 grams.
Very interesting video, I am building a Roughgen V2 using Color Fab LW-PLA , can I ask if your model survived the landing without damage?, your video doesn`t show. Look like the new Polymaker material is the way to go, once released.
In the landing at the end of the video it all survived accept the PLA nose cone... it broke the tip off.. but was easy to glue back on. I used a regular PLA nose cone because I needed a little bit more balance weight and the nose cone worked perfect. If you watch any of my other videos you will see I crash a lot. I have flown the Colorfabb LW-PLA Roughgen quite a bit before this and it survived many other landings and tumbles through the bushed. Good luck on your build.
Fantastic, I had never thought to try gliders only up on Lookout Mtn, this might have potential as a school project, thanks for posting. Which of the Pika designs do you think would work best for students to learn on? Do you have a minimum wind speed you like to see or temperature ro time of day that increases the chances of success?
So these are not really beginner planes, but you could learn on them. I would suggest a "combat wing" as a good starter... they fly good and can bounce, cheap and easy to build... then take the next step and print one of these. There is also a free simulator, PicaSim and the Banana flies a lot like the Pika.
Do you mean retraction? .7-1mm Most issues come with print speed, don't go too fast... if you start getting a "cheese grader" look to surfaces slow down.
No, I have no information from Polymaker yet. Im sure it is a trade secret or something. Search "PLAiR" which is anther "foamed" PLA and it sort of explains one way of doing it.
No, but I use some type of filament everyday. I designed the gliders in this video and I design other commercial products and use 3D printing for prototypes.
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Wayne....awesome! Another informative and fascinating to watch video! Thanks so much...exciting times indeed!
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks for the comparisons, I was wondering about the pre-foamed.
I'd never heard about this option from Polymaker, just the other two. Just ordered a spool from your link to try out. Will take a look at you plans as well.
Great topic, thanks 👍
Most excellent video, so insightful and helpful. How much filament does it take to print the Soarkraft gliders in the E-sun filament or light PLA? Thanks:)
regular PLA uses 420-450g of PLA. The e-Sun using my settings at 50% feed rate uses ~ 260g, 40% feed rate uses ~ 220g, or about 4 planes for 1 kg of material. As for the plane there is still carbon, servos, radio glue etc.. ~ 420g RTF
The polymaker comes out to about 280-290g - so you almost get 3 planes out of a 800g spool.
@@soarkraft Thank you very much for replying back to my question !
i just puchased the overture air and was great my esun pla+ came in at .70 oz on a wing part
set at 206 deg and speed 85 and 3 % infill . i did polymaker blace and with same setting came in at .51 oz. cost was 34 at amazon. i also bought the overture and with same setting it came in at .52 oz and strength same as the polymaker. it cost 18.00
Very nice test flight, very detail review of the process and very helpful for anyone in the same hobby, thank you for sharing.
The final product will be released as PolyLite LW-PLA and will come on cardboard spools. Thank you for the suggestion, we will think about having different rate of pre-foamed material.
For the colors, it seems that you have orange wing tips, would you like to see an orange version of the material?
We would be interested in a partnership on some of your project to create content for our RC plane community, you can contact us directly if you are interested :)
Bright "neon" colors are a plus: orange, green, red, yellow... high contrast for visibility from far away. A 50% density that is easy to print would also be a winner and easily have a competitive advantage over the foaming type... the only thing the foaming type has better is that 17% lighter.
@@soarkraft Thank you for the suggestions, we will develop a few more bright colors to answer this need and we will study the feasibility for a 50% density easy to print filament.
Awesome, Is it possible to stiffen it up with epoxy and gfk or cfk? Thanks
Could you? yes, I have seen examples of skinning with carbon cloth or glass. Usually to try to improve a bad design, so so results. The added build time and cost vs desired outcome needs to be balanced.... I have vacuum bagged many foam wings and fuse designs. Its lots of work, time consuming, messy and not cheap (need the right tools and supplies). It takes practice to get good results..... Should you???? You can build however you want.
Im having a great time just printing, CA and crash... and doing 100+mph in-between. Even molded carbon models will not survive my crashes.
@Polymaker when will you sell it in europe ??? i had to pay more in shipping than the filmaent to get one. i enjoy it but will need more soon.
Nice job! Do you have some experience or testing about warping because of heat? Direct sun exposure on the slope (air and ground) and car transporting? Im curious about how the polymaker material behave about warping! Thanks for the amazing content!
So I have had it in the sun for several hours and it was fine... even in black, but its 75 degreeF outside. All of my designs are supported with carbon strips and rods, so structure is not an issue. This is probably not going to stand up to Arizona summers or sitting in a sun baking car any better than regular PLA or the foaming stuff.... its the same material, and I don't know about other designs.
Cool comparison. But in my case, polymaker lw-pla has the almost same weight as petg. Does everybody know what should be changed to achieve lighter weight with this plastic?
Depends on what you are printing it with, I use Orca Slicer and a Bambu X1C and have to reduce the flow ratio to .92 to get the proper weight of 67% of regular PLA. Cura and a sidewinder did not have this problem, but Cura is terrible and the sidewinder is too slow.
@@soarkraft thanks, will try
this material is fantastic but I can't find it/find it in Italy, unfortunately the shipping prices raise the cost too much. I didn't want to risk my 3dprinter with a foamimg pla...I'll trust your review and for the price I'll take one..Aquila...and dedicate it only to LW-PLA....thanks for your excellent advice M.P.
I'm going to make a mold when my object is done, I need to extract the foaming PLA shapes out of my object. My question to you is this foaming pla easy to destroy and break apart like Styrofoam.
Sure???? but maybe not??? there is a lot going on in you project that you will have to figure out. This material is porous so you will need to seal the surface for it to "demold". Mold wax might do the trick. Still never dont this with this material, you are going to have to figure it out.
How does it compare to balsa thats skinned? Are we talking a similar ballpark?
These gliders are so fast! I'm wondering if a delta wing can do the same.
Delta wings are not necessarily faster until you are going close to or beyond Mach 1... The fastest RC airplane is a straight wing glider doing Dynamic Soaring - 564 mph. Delta wings look cool.
Hey. Excellent video
I would love to get print settings for lw pla polymaker.
I work with a BIQU B1 SE PLUS printer
I really don't succeed unfortunately
Thank you.
Could you dive into the electronics you use in these aircraft? I'd love to know what receiver, motor, transmitter, battery, etc. as a person who is getting into the hobby.
Here is a video I just published today of what goes in a Power Pod version - th-cam.com/video/glfJ6ExXTnc/w-d-xo.html
So I been using polylite for a while now and didnt even think about printing model plane parts. I wanted to for a while but couldn't bring myself to spend $45 a kilo for lw-pla. Polylite is pretty cheap in comparison to other lw-pla manufactures. I only have the traditional poly logo color atm. I will order another spool in white or yellow and give this a go. The only downside to ploylite filament is flow! I still have not printed a prefect part. I always find random banding, minor but still, it is frustrating. Im sure I can dial it in someday lol. Thank you for the video.
make sure you order the LW-PLA from polymaker, not just the "Polylite" if you want to try it...
The best way I have found to ensure I get the right material is the spool should only have 800g of material on it. If it is a full 1Kg then it is just regular PLA
@@soarkraft Understood, I miss spoke. I just happen to have a spool of polylite, it was a good color to match my electronics bench and at $18 a spool on amazon, I picked it up not really understanding what I just purchased.
A little heavier is actually beneficial if you have a good breeze. They all break when you crash them
Yes, my favorite is 800g regular PLA Roughgen with a 4 servo wing. Very zippy and cheap/easy.... can handle and flop into the bushes.
@@soarkraft if u r ever in northern California, check out pena adobe regional park in Vacaville CA. It's an awesome place for slope soaring. You could fly it at 1600 grams.
PLA melts inside the car. Do you take it with you when you have to leave your car ? Just wondering
Very interesting video, I am building a Roughgen V2 using Color Fab LW-PLA , can I ask if your model survived the landing without damage?, your video doesn`t show.
Look like the new Polymaker material is the way to go, once released.
In the landing at the end of the video it all survived accept the PLA nose cone... it broke the tip off.. but was easy to glue back on. I used a regular PLA nose cone because I needed a little bit more balance weight and the nose cone worked perfect. If you watch any of my other videos you will see I crash a lot. I have flown the Colorfabb LW-PLA Roughgen quite a bit before this and it survived many other landings and tumbles through the bushed.
Good luck on your build.
Fantastic, I had never thought to try gliders only up on Lookout Mtn, this might have potential as a school project, thanks for posting. Which of the Pika designs do you think would work best for students to learn on? Do you have a minimum wind speed you like to see or temperature ro time of day that increases the chances of success?
So these are not really beginner planes, but you could learn on them. I would suggest a "combat wing" as a good starter... they fly good and can bounce, cheap and easy to build... then take the next step and print one of these. There is also a free simulator, PicaSim and the Banana flies a lot like the Pika.
querstion for polymaker PLA-LW how much extrustion is best ?
Do you mean retraction? .7-1mm
Most issues come with print speed, don't go too fast... if you start getting a "cheese grader" look to surfaces slow down.
They should bring out a foamed petg and foamed pctg or foamed PC
Sure, those would be good too. Not sure the chemistry is that easy.
@@soarkraft do you know what chemicals they us as blowing agents?
No, I have no information from Polymaker yet. Im sure it is a trade secret or something. Search "PLAiR" which is anther "foamed" PLA and it sort of explains one way of doing it.
@@soarkraft you don't happen to have connections to the filament industry? 🤣
No, but I use some type of filament everyday. I designed the gliders in this video and I design other commercial products and use 3D printing for prototypes.
You look so suspicious when explaining 😂. Great video anyway
I have resting suspicious face