The Batman - Genius Film Direction

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  • The Batman is a master-class in filmmaking. In this video, I discuss what the film’s biggest influences are, what movies it borrows from, and contrast the directing style of Matt Reeves to his predecessors, Zack Snyder and Christopher Nolan.

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  • @multipass113
    @multipass113 2 ปีที่แล้ว +303

    Good observations with interesting comparisons. I can’t offer any counterpoints because I agree with most of your points. ‘Most’ because I have not seen the other Snyder movies besides Man of Steel so I shouldn’t really comment on them (but your criticisms of those movies are precisely why I stopped watching his work). I would even go further by saying that Nolan, while a brilliant conceptual director, is not only bad at directing fight scenes but he is terrible at intimate scenes: he is incapable of igniting the much needed chemistry between his characters which results a kind of hollowness in his Bruce/Batman’s emotional arc because we never feel it built up and, therefore, earned. This is cringingly obvious with Nolan’s approach, or lack of, with the character of Rachel (both times). Reeves, on the other hand, is not afraid to go soft and delicate when his characters call for: those brief moments between Batman and Selina have such tenderness and sensuality that beautifully expose different facets of this caped crusader and I’m here for it. I also love that in Reeves’ version Gotham is not just a location but a prominent character (something that was sorely lacking in all of the Nolan’s trilogy). A Gotham with a larger-than-life personality that entwines everything, drags everyone that comes across its path and we, the viewers, cannot help but be willingly immersed into its depravity.
    What a memorable cinematic experience this was. Thanks for the video.

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Your observations about Nolan’s intimidate scenes are spot-on. I think Nolan’s strengths are *so great* that it offsets a lot of his flaws, including intimacy between characters. Not only was Bruce’s relationship with Rachel hollow, the short relationship he shared with Talia in the 3rd movie felt incredibly forced. I appreciate the watch, and the very thoughtful comment, truly. I love this kind of discussion. A lot of work went into the making of the video, and plenty more analysis to come of other films. I’m a new channel trying to get off the ground so again, thank you *very very* much for dropping in.

    • @multipass113
      @multipass113 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Don’t get me started on Talia…..lol.
      From one cynical cinephile to another, happy to subscribe and support a new channel to continue future dialogues on this common interest.
      P.s. The saying “there are no new ideas just new ways of using an idea” holds true for every creative artists, myself included. The Batman is not original, far from it; like you’ve pointed out, it borrows from so many other great works and subjects. The brilliance of The Batman is that Reeves was able to find and connect the threads within those sources to make this graphic novel/heightened reality so relatable to our current world. Now, THAT is no easy feat. To me, that relatability is what makes the telling of this story so compelling. And, goodness, the pace of this movie….I could go on and on but I’ll save it for future discussion.

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@multipass113 I think the knowledge that there are only so many stories to tell keeps me from getting too jaded. It’s exciting to see someone spin a tried and true tale into something entirely new. Reeves was a master at it this go ‘round (not that he hasn’t been before). It’s how we spin things and create something new from something old. I see it fail all the time, you can blend things that don’t make sense to blend together. But all the failures we watch/read make the ones that succeed, like The Batman, all the more exciting.
      I look forward to more discussions with you! It’s a little late, but I’m dissecting Uncharted and will be posting it next week. *that* dissection will not be a kind one.

    • @multipass113
      @multipass113 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You raised a good point because I, too, find comfort in knowing that my objective is not to make something original (i.e. The movie was shot entirely on Mars!) but to bring fresh perspective with existing materials. This concept of repurpose-working within a parameter using limited resources-is what motivates and inspires one to be truly creative. To make people see something in a new way yet still retaining some familiarity under a distinctive voice is challenging but so satisfying. Too often we end up with products that try so hard to be something for the sake of being that something which always result in me exasperatingly trying to roll my eyeballs to the back of my head (with no success, thank goodness). I look forward to your analysis of Uncharted; I have not seen the movie but that doesn’t stop me from enjoying a good breakdown. In this now seemingly bland-cookie-cutter-movie-making-assembly-line industry kindness breeds mediocrity and indifference, so I’d say: go for it.
      P.s. Most content creators do not take the time to engage in the comments so your thoughtful replies are equally appreciated.

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@multipass113 I couldn’t agree with this more, and couldn’t have said it better. You sound like you’re a writer yourself! I write and draw a comic book, write music, and now analyze movies here on TH-cam (the library will expand, believe me!), and like you said, exposing a new angle to existing materials is what you have to do if you’re doing any one of these forms of art. Most things have been done, but what are *you* going to do to, in essence, to spice things up? To make it fresh? Since we’re chatting on TH-cam I’ll focus here-because anyone browsing sees this constantly-videos that aren’t really anything… Just there for the sake of the creator, but not bringing something new to the table. I don’t want to analyze anything based on a “liked it / didn’t like it” basic reviewer take. I only want to do something if I think I can bring a fresh perspective or at least, *something* someone hasn’t touched on yet. I might not succeed every time in the future but I’ll give it my 100%.

  • @Waverider781
    @Waverider781 2 ปีที่แล้ว +490

    My favorite thing about Pattinson’s performance (and it’s hands-down the best live-action Batman performance by miles) is how much he leans into the fact that Batman is a *deeply* maladjusted man. Whenever he’s outside the suit, the dude looks downright dysphoric. It seems to actively cause him pain to have to go to the Iceberg Lounge out of costume; he has no personal use for Bruce Wayne. Love the choice to depart from Bale’s social chameleon; it made his pain and thus his mission far easier to understand.

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      Damn, that’s an excellent take. It’s this kind of analysis that makes me think most people commenting should start their own film essay channels, that’s brilliant stuff Sam. I loved his portrayal (as you probably heard in the video) and some folks get upset about the “emo Batman” thing but, Bats expressing at the end that he needs to be more than just “vengeance” signifies this character is growing. *an actual character arc*. Something we haven’t really seen in a Batman movie. Not like this anyway. He’s indeed still young and learning, so he might get out of his disdain for being simply Bruce Wayne, too, and find (somewhat) of a balance by the end of the trilogy.

    • @Waverider781
      @Waverider781 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@TheMovieCynic Totally; my called-shot for the sequel is that one of the final dramatic beats will be him revealing his identity to Selina as he begins to accept that part of himself.

    • @DilettanteThat
      @DilettanteThat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I think the best part after this, will be seeing him become Bale's social chameleon, because eventually, he will have a use for Bruce Wayne. A slow progression, rather then the rushed one we got with Bale, no fault of Bale of course.

    • @DilettanteThat
      @DilettanteThat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@TheMovieCynic Yesss, I feel like an embarrassing amount of people aren't seeing this- There's tons of people on twitter complaining about it. It kind of hurts, this is why I only use Twitter for art-

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@DilettanteThat ooooof, That sounds exactly why I stay off Twitter.

  • @evanwalters63
    @evanwalters63 2 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    Also, my favorite scene is when he first comes into the crime scene and all the cops are pissed that he's there. That whole scene is just great in every way. How he walks around looking for clues. The camera work ad lighting and everything about that scene is exactly the kind of Batman that I love. I've liked all the Batman movies but this one and The Dark Knight are the best. I can't decide which one is better but I don't care. I'm just glad this one turned out so good instead of being lame.

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Batman’s introduction to the first crime scene is sooo well done.
      It’s been a bumpy road for Batman movies since Batman ‘89, but I agree this one is right up there with The Dark Knight.

    • @thetalisman963
      @thetalisman963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I like how he kind of tells the forensic photographer lady about the blood without actually saying anything. Very Batman to me.

  • @user-ln7yl5mk7k
    @user-ln7yl5mk7k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +342

    Lol it's kinda nice to hear someone mention how fantastic Robert Pattinson looks in the batsuit in this kind of video. Actually I've watched tons of review videos and "the batman is a masterpiece" videos and I don't think I've heard a single one say it. Cast-wise, this is quite a beautiful movie

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      I’m glad someone pointed this part of the video out, because I haven’t noticed anyone else mention this either! The jawline is undeniable and Zoe Kravitz breaks hearts

    • @errwhattheflip
      @errwhattheflip 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Ribby The Party Frog There are several comics where he looks pretty similar to this. This just makes it a bit more extreme

    • @CancelHappiness
      @CancelHappiness 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Ribby The Party Frog he looks way better than the cringe, growling "Batman" who is weaker than a 12 year old girl from the dark knight trilogy

    • @xleplayVA
      @xleplayVA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea my only real main issue with the batsuit in this, is the head. Its just got a megamind kinda vibe going on, and it looks slightly misaligned with everything, so it gives off an odd vibe

    • @CancelHappiness
      @CancelHappiness 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@xleplayVA lol, you're tripping. It looks soooo much better than the ridiculous suits bale and Affleck wore

  • @quentinalsip2084
    @quentinalsip2084 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    When I heard this movie was going to be a crime noir heavily influenced by Fincher films and that the Riddler was going to be the primary villain I was 100% all in! This movie was so good because of how dark and gritty it was. This movie wasn't as concerned about the duality of Bruce Wayne as the other films have been. Pattinson spent 95% of this film on screen as Batman and I was fine with it. He's still the flawed anti-hero we expect. I'll still think Michael Caine was the best Alfred in the history of Batman movies but Andy Serkis was alright too...considering it was really Alfred that did most of the detective work in this movie. Paul Dano was AWESOME! Second only to Heath Ledger in the hierarchy of Batman villains.

  • @Dialandhands
    @Dialandhands ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The Batman is the greatest IMAX cinematic experience I’ve ever had. I have never smiled and had so many chills from a movie. I can’t wait for the second one and all the spin-off shows because they’re going to be incredible!!

    • @jamescarr1265
      @jamescarr1265 ปีที่แล้ว

      they really are it was so good!!! and the characters were amazing - my favourites were Batman and Catwoman (holy fuck Zoë Kravitz is hot)

  • @aniknag619
    @aniknag619 2 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    The slo-mo upside down shot from The Batman also makes sense within the movie because Penguin might have gotten a concussion from the crash.

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      I hadn’t thought of that, good point. It would give another + to Matt Reeves’ direction, actually giving a story-centric reason behind using solo-mo instead of the “because it looks cool” that Snyder does.

  • @s-a-r-a-h
    @s-a-r-a-h 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    This movie worked so well because it followed the rule of "show, don't tell" to a T

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      That’s so ironic you said that, I’m writing my next video (Morbius) right now and tearing it apart for *not* following that rule whatsoever. Literally writing that part of the analysis and took a break when I saw your comment lol it sounds like you and I are on the same page!

  • @tumbleweedjoe
    @tumbleweedjoe ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I loved the scene where Batman thinks for a moment that riddle knows his true identity. He leans back against the wall and seems to sigh, glancing at the camera on the wall. So much is conveyed in those quiet moments. Also Pattisons eyes inside the cowl are so powerful. He makes his eyes actors.

  • @iamthisiam
    @iamthisiam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I had two complaints after watching it the first time.
    1. The joker cameo... Frankly I don't really want to see joker again right now definitely with Joaquin Phoenix doing a great job.
    2. I desired more combat. After the fact I watched behind the scenes with a director stated they only wanted to choreograph fighting that made sense and not aimless fighting. But damn they made it look so good I wanted to see more.

    • @nekochibi2256
      @nekochibi2256 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      When a complaint is that you more of the great stuff, that’s a good sign.

  • @CancelHappiness
    @CancelHappiness 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Easily my favorite live action Batman film ever made. Absolutely incredible.

  • @CommanderSammer
    @CommanderSammer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Finally, someone who talks about still camera movement and editing

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      When you see the potential in a great fight scene that’s chopped to hell, you start to recognize how important editing is.

    • @CommanderSammer
      @CommanderSammer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheMovieCynic definitely, and not having crazy shaky cam helps with that as well

    • @smittywerbenjagermanjensen5152
      @smittywerbenjagermanjensen5152 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CommanderSammer mcu fans would disagree

    • @CommanderSammer
      @CommanderSammer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@smittywerbenjagermanjensen5152 well the mcu isn't exactly the gold standard for good cinema, so much fans can disagree all they want, it doesn't make them correct 😂

    • @miketaylor00
      @miketaylor00 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn't notice because he kept saying Zoe Kravitz name wrong. For fucks sake it's not like she is some unknown actress

  • @matthewkuchinski1769
    @matthewkuchinski1769 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I thought that the use of one of the greatest pieces of classical music ever created, Franz Schubert's "Ave Maria" or "Ellens dritter Gesang" as the Riddler's theme was completely brilliant. It is traditionally used as a joyful acclimation of the Hail Mary Prayer, but to see it be used as a message of warning, of the Riddler's coming brought a darkness to the tune that was completely original. Also, it seemed to mirror the Riddler's genius as a villain, as he could leave what he viewed as works of art for Batman to find (his riddles and the horrific murders), while keeping his other grotesque plan a secret until the epic third act of the film revealed the true extent of his madness and how powerful his evil ideas were.

  • @callumpilkingtonproductions
    @callumpilkingtonproductions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    When i saw this movie i came into the cinema super excited and i came out thinking about how great the cinematography was, i didn't feel like that after watching endgame(it was still a great movie) but
    I've got to give it to the batman, its made my top 5!

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Endgame was satisfying in a different way for me since it was the culmination of a massive storyline told by a number of writers and directors over a decade. It makes sense the cinematography is in line with that “Marvel formula”, which I don’t have an issue with. I love me some Marvel. The Batman meanwhile stands on its own, and you’re absolutely spot on, the cinematography is breathtaking.

  • @megmurray8544
    @megmurray8544 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    This is the best video I’ve seen on The Batman so far. It summed up all of my thoughts. Can’t get enough of this movie.

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed the video. And I can’t get enough either, I’ve seen it three times so far.

    • @megmurray8544
      @megmurray8544 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheMovieCynic I’m glad I’m not the only one! I’ve seen it five times so far, but I’m going to take it easy until I can see it with my brother who is a huge fan of the Tim Burton movies. I can’t wait to see his reactions!

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@megmurray8544 that’s awesome! Michael Keaton’s Batman is right up there. I’m nostalgic for it. I’m not sure if you’re interested in other blockbustery movies but I’m releasing an analysis of Uncharted tomorrow (I was not a fan) and will be doing one for Morbius, Matrix Resurrections (long overdue) over the next couple weeks!

    • @megmurray8544
      @megmurray8544 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheMovieCynic I love the Tim Burton Batman movies so good! I’ll definitely have to check out your Uncharted analysis. I haven’t seen the movie yet, but the only reason I might have wanted to see it was to roast it. I’ll subscribe to your channel!

    • @chrisfern4699
      @chrisfern4699 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Took the words right out of me! I stumbled across another Batman video that I didn’t agree entirely with but thought the guy had some interesting points as I thought afterwards about it.
      (Edit,I found the vid):th-cam.com/video/GXGtgmWuJ0k/w-d-xo.html

  • @Steve_E90
    @Steve_E90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I watched it at the cinema yesterday and I completely agree with you. The car chase scene blew me away. Damn that Batmobile is the coolest thing I've seen in a superhero movie. I haven't been that excited about a vehicle since seeing Tim Burton's Batmobile, when I was a kid.
    Robert Pattinson is also such an awesome Batman. He's so moody and unhinged, and you can see the cogs turning in his head as he learns and grows throughout the movie.

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It’s going to be fun watching this Batman grow into the fully formed version over the next couple movies that’s for sure.

  • @dannielz6
    @dannielz6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    So true about the fight scenes in Nolans Batman. I tell my wife theyre great movies but just average action movies. The Bane fight at the end of DKR is abysmal. Its what kept me continually unsatisfied and Reeves Batman is far superior. Finally the Batman I've wanted to see, worthy of the Arkham game series.

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Indeed, Dark Knight is a great movie (that props up the other two films IMO) but mediocre at action. *But*, the 18-wheeler vs Batpod, especially when the truck flips over, is fantastic. Poor editing or not, some of those shots are just iconic.

    • @firelord4662
      @firelord4662 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To say the Nolan trylogy is average is hilariously untrue he's the reason Batman even has respect in the movie side of things you kidding me he brought respect and badassness back to Batman to be honest the Batman copied seven it's not even unique but it's a good film just not better then darknight that's all

    • @Johnathanbyers
      @Johnathanbyers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@firelord4662 he literally never said the films were average lmaoooo he said the fight scenes are.

    • @funkrobot9762
      @funkrobot9762 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@firelord4662 and he’s right.

    • @errwhattheflip
      @errwhattheflip 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@firelord4662 He didn't say that. He said the action in it was average. The Batman copying Seven is like saying TDK copied Heat. The Batman took inspiration from certain things from Seven, but never took the entire thing. Its shot composition is almost entirely different, its color pallete is also much different, and the story and themes aren't really that similar. It just has some similar points

  • @errwhattheflip
    @errwhattheflip ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Dark Knight's editing during action sequences, in my opinion, work pretty well due to the way in which Nolan paces the sequences. He makes several moments like crashes, explosions, and others.

  • @mehoymenoy8841
    @mehoymenoy8841 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I'm just so happy to have a Batman that is on par with the Animated Series. I don't like Bale's Batman, nor Keaton. Give me Conroy and Pattinson all day.

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Revisiting the animated series, I can’t believe how dark and mature it was considering who it was aimed at. I loved it when I was a kid and it holds up now. I can’t imagine there’s that kind of quality in kids after-school animation anymore.

    • @mikephelps9238
      @mikephelps9238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheMovieCynic I know, right? That’s why I think BTAS is one of the, if not the best portrayal of Batman ever. The show knew what tone it needed to be and did things that were comic book accurate, yet with very phenomenal different takes (like Mr Freeze for example)

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mikephelps9238 we’ll never get a film version of Mr Freeze that’s equal to his interpretation in BTAS.

    • @mikephelps9238
      @mikephelps9238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheMovieCynic one can hope that Reeves pulls off a good Mr Freeze (assuming Freeze will be the villain of the sequel)

  • @chanelledimarco7058
    @chanelledimarco7058 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The amount of effort in this video is incredible. Subscribed.

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you so much! This took something like 50-60 hours to do… making these videos are a labor of love!

  • @karmansachar2744
    @karmansachar2744 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    holy shit bro, didnt even realise u had 57 subs. the quality on the vid is insane... u got a huge future ahead of u my brotha

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, that’s incredibly kind of you to say. My goal is to get to a point where there’s a new video up every week, but I’m quality over quantity. Literally working on the latest vid right now lol. Thank you *so much* for taking the time to watch the vid and comment. It means a lot.

  • @Beastinvader
    @Beastinvader 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Good vid man.
    You actually tie in filming concepts like editing and references to other films.
    Too many video essayists online have become mere opinion channels than analysts

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you sir, and I agree. “Everyone has an opinion, so what makes yours worth listening to?” Is what I was asking myself when I wanted to make this channel. I don’t want to make videos just to make them. Only if I have my own angle to bring for critique.

  • @urazoktay7940
    @urazoktay7940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    That's an amazing review and you are absolutely right The Batman is a masterpiece. :D I'll be seeing it a fourth time tomorrow.

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you very much my friend! I’m glad you enjoyed it the movie and the video! You’ll beat me, I’m at my 3rd viewing so far of the movie lol.
      It’s a guessing game if the hard work of making videos like this will get in front of peoples eyes, so thanks a lot for stopping in and giving it a shot. :)

    • @urazoktay7940
      @urazoktay7940 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Super Roo I ended my run at 5 times! :D Movie is a masterpiece really.

    • @urazoktay7940
      @urazoktay7940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheMovieCynic Hey i ended my run at 5! :D And yes this video is exactly an example of hard work. I'm sure with time more and more people will discover you. Because your analyses are right on, your observations are spot on. And i thorougly enjoyed your analysis. I wish you the best!

    • @urazoktay7940
      @urazoktay7940 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Super Roo :D

    • @hayseanward
      @hayseanward 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just finished my third viewing and should’ve watched it in the IMAX but got to view it on the X screen! So worth it 😊😊😊

  • @phoebea
    @phoebea ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I liked the first two acts of the Batman. As a fan of psychological thrillers, I liked that we get to see Batman as a detective-type character since, technically, that's his superpower in the comics; not shooting and killing people or bodying bad guys like in the DCEU/Nolan films. His skill is his intelligence, cunning, and methodical planning. I also liked the cat and mouse interplay between Batman and the Riddler in the film (for once Riddler was scary and frightening, not just looney.)
    However, the 3rd act (after Ridler snipes the guy Batman and Catwoman "brought to the light") killed a lot of the suspense for me. And, when we find out that Riddler is doing all this because he's a delusional psychopath after, (once again) blaming stuff on Thomas/Martha Wayne, it was a bit of a let down because this trope is so overused. It would have been cooler if it was revealed that Riddler did what he did for an actual (not crazy) reason. For example, as a way for him to get into the Court of Owls, or, as a henchman to foreshadow a more formidable villain (God, please not Joker!)
    But, I definitely enjoyed the film and am looking forward to the sequel. Fingers-crossed that the next big baddie isn't the Joker (again.) Great video, dude!

  • @dhrubajyotisahathepuremagn4840
    @dhrubajyotisahathepuremagn4840 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Batman is my most favorite Superhero movie. I watched it 10 times in cinema hall. It is the best directed, story telling and most believable Superhero movie. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      10 times?! I’ll get there when it’s on HBO Max. It’s definitely my favorite superhero movie too

    • @iamgar6age
      @iamgar6age 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheMovieCynic not available in india.

    • @hashshashiin.forsī
      @hashshashiin.forsī 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whattt??? Damn 😂

  • @anomiceleven
    @anomiceleven ปีที่แล้ว +2

    yes - this is the best film Batman. Agreed. And I love that this is a noir detective story instead of just fight after fight. This Batman has other means of solving things than just beating up the bad guys.

  • @robbelmont5226
    @robbelmont5226 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I loved The Batman. It is perhaps the best pure "batman" movie ever made. While it might not be as good as The Dark Knight in the broader sense of film, IT IS a better "Batman" movie. Pattinson is awesome under the cowl and is very good as the distant and broken Bruce Wayne. If they choose to do the playboy gimmick I think he'll do great at that as well because he was basically that in Tenet. I've seen The Batman 3 times in theaters and almost every minor issue I had with the movie on first viewing melted away on subsequent viewings. On first viewing I certainly felt the long duration of the film, but on second and third viewing it breezed by.
    A common complaint I see is that the third act came out of nowhere and contradicts the Riddlers plans of "punishing the corrupt" and that the seawall wasn't explained. I guess the average movie goer wasn't paying attention because the movie mentions the seawall multiple times, including in the very first scene when the mayor is watching his debate on TV. IT also shows it several times with the water right at the top threatening to spill over, hinting at the end of the movie. Also the Riddler says how he wants to "clean the city" and "wash away the sins" and so forth. Also, "the riddlers" at the end never seem like they are just shooting at random people, or that that was their intention. Perhaps the idea was that all the government officials and politician would have ended up there at the end and that they would be the targets and anyone killed because of the flood would be collateral damage. I also think that it's possible that the Riddlers intentions changed over time as he gained a following. His followers might have emboldened him to do something even more crazy "for the cause" as perhaps they were wronged by more average people or whatever. This is just speculation though.
    The Joker cameo also worked for me. I feel like it hints at a larger world. While I like the deleted scene and I think Barry will do great, I agree that they should hold off on the Joker until the final film in the trilogy (if we get one). I'm all for a villain that hasn't been used yet like Clayface or perhaps a serious take on Mr. Freeze (as has been rumored for a while now).
    The Batman also looks and sounds great. The dirty and grimy neon noir look of Gotham really worked and the soundtrack is haunting and memorable. Pretty much all of the performances are excellent. I'm really looking forward to where Reeves takes us next.
    Some other notes, Gotham looks really cool in this movie which is something the Nolan movies (after Begins) severally lacked. In TDK and TDKR Gotham looks like Chicago if it were power washed. It looks WAY TOO CLEAN. You don't feel like It would be scary to live there or that Batman would even be necessary.
    Also, Pattinson > Bale... AS BATMAN. I think Bale was brilliant as Bruce but suffered as Batman with his overly high tech suit and "cancer" voice. For me Bale ranks behind Pattinson, Affleck, and Keaton but not necessarily in that order.
    The other day I saw a comment saying that this movie sucked because we don't understand Batman's motivation because we didn't see his origin. Are you serious? Had they redone the origin the amount of complaints would have been an avalanche.
    Also, as someone who has been lifting and working out for close to twenty years, if I see one more complaint about Pattinson "not bulking up" I think I might scream. The dude looked fit. He's a natural ectomorph and without the use of PEDs he did the best he could in the short amount of time he was given. Also his physique is irrelevant to the quality of the movie. Keaton was awesome and certainly didn't look anymore buff than Pattinson. In the suit Pattinson (who is relatively tall) looked like a monster.
    Another note. Zack Snyder, based off what I have heard and seen seems like a genuinely good guy. He's very creative and artistic and isn't afraid to take risks and suffered considerably because of studio interference and the forced "catch up with marvel" mentality that WB had. While his DC work is a mishmash of great and mediocre I think the good outweighs the bad. I genuinely don't care for Man of Steel. The first half I think is excellent but the ending is just... too much for my taste. When I first saw BvS I pretty much hated it. The one shining thing was Ben Affleck. You could just tell how much Ben loves the character. The suit is THE BEST BAR NONE Batman suit we have ever gotten on film. Even the Justice League suits are inferior. I know people get all up in arms over the killing thing but I think it works within the context of the film. Batman is basically a jaded, drunk, xenophobic nutcase by this point in his career and gives no Fs about collateral damage. BvS the theatrical cut is not good and I hate that that version is the one shown on TV. The Ultimate Cut basically pulled a 180 on me. I now genuinely love BvS (which has by far the best Batman action sequence committed to celluloid) even with it's notably odd choices, but I think Zack Snyder's Justice League (which is a great movie also despite it's flaws) strengthens it because now we can see what Zack's intentions were. Don't get me started on Josstice League which should be deleted forever as all it did was harm DC and WB almost irreparably with the Fandom.
    On a final note, I can't help but feel like The Batman will ultimately "underperform" at the box office, despite that as of me writing this it has earned around double what Batman Begins made. In this day and age a comic book tentpole like this making under a billion is "a failure" which is far from true (especially with a relatively lower budget production such as this), but for some reason people are obsessed with that number. The Batman is not for young kids and it was never advertised as such. I think it might as well have been rated R. I doubt it would have made a difference. It's the first in a hopefully successful relaunch of a franchise with all new actors and released during a global pandemic. Comparing it to Spiderman NWH is unfair. NWH has the built in "go see whatever marvel puts out" fanbase (and yes those people exist), Spiderman is "for kids" which means adults are not afraid to bring their 5 yos (and every ticket counts), and it had the huge bonus of NOSTALGIA. If you take out the Tobey and Andrew spidermen and the villains I think the movie would have done about the same as the previous Spiderman movies. As far as filmmaking goes The Batman is superior on every level, but NWH was a stand up and cheer roller coaster movie, and those will always make more money than an introspective slow burn crime thriller no matter who is the lead character.

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This an well-rounded and well thought out critique. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I agree with the majority of your observations on the film as well as my favor of Pattinson over the others-and as someone who also has knowledge of weight training, Pattinson’s look and weight makes complete sense for his starting point and how he looks in the film. He clearly didn’t use PEDs like the majority of Hollywood does to get jacked. He’s authentically ripped and I applaud him for that. He mentioned in an interview prior to the films release that he couldn’t believe people actually took him seriously when he said he wasn’t working out for the film.
      I’m going to do a follow-up video specifically addressing my issues with the Snyder-verse which I’m sure will be pretty divisive, but it’ll be obvious when I’m objective and what is subjective. As far as Batman’s box office, this is a re-boot to a franchise that was severely harmed by bad films (lets face it, if people really enjoyed Snyder’s vision, he’d still be making the movies. Numbers don’t lie) so the fact that The Batman has been embraced like it has speaks volumes to its quality.

    • @robbelmont5226
      @robbelmont5226 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheMovieCynic funny enough that you mentioned the opening monologue of BvS as a weak point when I think the opening 10ish minutes of BvS is some of its strongest material. Ben’s monologue at the beginning frames his fall from grace and descent into almost literal madness and I think his parents being killed was handled in a exciting and artful way. Plus Chekhov’s gun with the whole dying words are Martha thing which comes back in the universally praised (sarcasm) Save Martha scene.

    • @korkor1020
      @korkor1020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great video analysis and also great feedbacks. I totally agree that Nolan’s dark knight is a better overall movie. But The Batman is the best Batman movie. Casual movie goers wouldn’t appreciate the slow pace, action lacking, suspense flick disguised in one of the biggest IP in super hero movie. But for those who has been Batman’s faithful will truly appreciate what a special one of a kind experience this Matt Reeves masterpiece has to offer.

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@korkor1020 I appreciate the kind words about the video, truly. I agree that casual film fans won’t find Reeves’ Batman very much fun, and I think that’s panning out since it’s release on HBO Max. I feel like I’ve seen far more negative opinions on the movie since, but that’s to be expected. Those who wanted to see it went to the theater, and people who couldn’t care less caught it once it hit streaming.

    • @robbelmont5226
      @robbelmont5226 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheMovieCynic odd. I would say the opposite. Most people I know who didn’t go to see it in theaters who watched it on hbomax loved it. I’ve also watched a handful of more recent reviews and they were all positive. I feel like people who are shitting on it are just being contrarian at this point. It’s certainly ok to not like a movie. But I feel like people need to acknowledge that this movie was extremely well made (especially considering COVID), and that it looks and feels like a real movie. You know, like we used to have. I hate to rag on marvel too much as I do like the majority of their movies, but in NWH there were so many obvious green screen moments that it hurt the movie and seeing clips of the new dr strange hurt my soul. Looks so phony. With all the money that Disney/marvel has you think they could afford real sets and to have actors in the same room together.

  • @jonah.gomes117
    @jonah.gomes117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm shocked this channel only has 77 subs. This shit is so good

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Unbelievably kind of you to say. I just launched the channel a few weeks ago with this Batman analysis, and am just focusing on producing quality content and getting better with each video. I wish I could produce them faster but quality over quantity! 3rd vid (Morbius) incoming and being wrapped up as we speak. Thanks for dropping in and hope you stick around!

    • @jonah.gomes117
      @jonah.gomes117 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheMovieCynic hell yeah dude. Keep that content coming

  • @kianrodriguez4455
    @kianrodriguez4455 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't see many people mentioning it but I like how the beginning of the movie makes you think that they'll show us Batman's backstory again but literally says nope once you cut to inside the house

  • @dripshameless5605
    @dripshameless5605 ปีที่แล้ว

    Probably the best video on YT regarding this new Batman movie. Well done, couldn't agree more

  • @daydreams3071
    @daydreams3071 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Lot of detective work in this movie, more than the ones before. The previous batman movies had a lot of action but the main thing about batman is his intellectual prowess, of how he thinks ahead how he's always prepared and how he solves problems and this movie brought up all those qualities of batman

  • @SlacktivistWeeb
    @SlacktivistWeeb ปีที่แล้ว

    I watched this with my photographer friend. Right from the first shot, he was overwhelmed because to his cinematic eyes, he was on a ride. This movie is such a banger.

  • @christopherdavis678
    @christopherdavis678 ปีที่แล้ว

    Apart from the excellent direction of Matt Reeves and the absolute compelling storytelling and cinematography/editing....what makes The Batman the best Batman movie is Robert Pattinsons portrayal of the character!! He nails it and it's his non verbal acting only adds to the portrayal!! His eyes do alot of storytelling alone!! The look of Batman, Gotham, the detective connection between Batman and Gordon and Paul Dano as Riddler just engross you into the story!! Thats not even mentioning Zoe Kravtiz awesome portrayal as Catwoman or Collin Farrell as Peguin!! Batman is hands down my favorite Batman movie and Pattinsons portrayal is the number 1 reason it is!!

  • @apatouros7572
    @apatouros7572 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this movie took a lot of big swings - and it worked! Batman is best when he's a detective, and I'm so glad this movie leaned into that side of him.

  • @anivlave
    @anivlave 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Mix those style baeeee!" 03:07 Your voice is hilarious lol

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Looool “I’m an Island boooiiii”.

  • @filmreviewer117
    @filmreviewer117 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also mention the little moment were after revering up the battle mobile he goes and stalls it. Loved it as just shows how human Batman is he's still trying to figure things out and isn't this skilled hero people thinks he is.

  • @kevinmccabe7263
    @kevinmccabe7263 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite part about Pattinson's Batman is that this is what Bruce Wayne would ACTUALLY look like! His parents were murdered in front of him for no reason and he was then raised completely alone by a butler with no friends because he's an unreachable billionaire. He would be straight up OFF OF the spectrum and would be obsessed with vengeance, justice, and just making sense of the senseless. THIS IS BRUCE WAYNE!

  • @davidyolchuyev2905
    @davidyolchuyev2905 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who cares if it is a masterpiece? We saw 38473892 Batmans in the past 10 years in different movies, tv shows with difference stories

  • @OzymandiasWasRight
    @OzymandiasWasRight ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm totally about to binge this channel when I really needed the distraction. Thank you for making consistent content.

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m moving some of the shorter / older videos over to my second channel, in case you see some missing. Nothing will be gone permanently, just about a dozen videos shifting over. They’ll be available again soon! Sorry for the bad timing, but thanks so much for checking out the channel. I’m glad you’re enjoying it!

    • @OzymandiasWasRight
      @OzymandiasWasRight ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheMovieCynic Well, as professional cynics go your channel is up there with the best. I'll def be checking out the 2nd channel

  • @RideTheGamer
    @RideTheGamer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    9:34 I noticed that almost instantly and I feel like if there's a sequel he could possibly be a Robin but that's highly unlikely.

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed that it’s unlikely but I’d be down for that being Robin’s origin in this new trilogy!

  • @seanpgallagher22ify
    @seanpgallagher22ify ปีที่แล้ว

    All I wanted was that hallway scene from Seven. When the detectives get ahead of John Doe.

  • @sevtas
    @sevtas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Christian Bale is the best Batman and that's facts. I loved Pattinson and hope we see more of an him as Batman but Bale was absolutely perfect for that role and nailed it down to a t.

    • @tamd5670
      @tamd5670 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s clearly not facts since everyone has a different opinion. I personally think Pattinson was by far the best Batman portrayal. The suit, the voice, the action is all better in The Batman in my opinion.

  • @vegettoblack7852
    @vegettoblack7852 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite part is the seemingly first time he uses that squirrel suit to fly and looks fucking terrified. Flawless acting moment. We always see bats as a badass, so it's great seeing him do something for the first time and how human and relatable he can be

  • @benmcreynolds8581
    @benmcreynolds8581 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At first I thought Robert Patterson wasn't gonna be a good choice for playing Batman but boy was I wrong.. I ate my words and actually think Patterson is the best Batman I've ever seen done. I've played Arkham Origins so many times & this movie is everything I've ever wanted with Batman media!!

  • @AlexSosa007
    @AlexSosa007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ya know i never really took notice of the "self indulgent" slow-mo of Zack Snyder until I watched Army of the Dead. Then like a bag of sh*tbricks it all hit me.
    "Why am I listening to church music while watching slow motion zombies??"
    "Why the hell do we need five mins to see Aquaman dive into the ocean..."
    Why are his movies so LONG ?????

  • @nealnoir
    @nealnoir ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My only disagreement is the Batmobile chase with Penguin had terrible spacial awareness and you could barely tell what was going on. However, unlike Nolan, that was a stylistic choice to make you feel claustrophobic and disoriented I feel. Where as Nolans is just bad editing.

  • @cheswajda9803
    @cheswajda9803 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a truly great film. While it benefits from - and pays tribute to - multiple prior incarnations of Batman, it transcends all of it, and makes something new and refreshing.

  • @adamsamad
    @adamsamad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree with everything but the scene in the church when the phone is ringing non stop is kinda bad.
    1. Battery could have died
    2. His open face was so close to the detonation and there were no scars or damage
    3. After that incident that left him in a mini coma he would of been in a hospital not in a cell with cops.

  • @Gitfiddle
    @Gitfiddle ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought the Batman was competent. It moved along at a good pace as a who done it mystery. I liked that twist. We got to see Batman the detective. The dark noir atmosphere was great. The tone of the movie was very consistent. The acting was very good. Some characters were stronger than others. I think the characters and acting kept me interested the most. What I didn’t like. I thought Batman the character was a bit flimsy. Thank goodness we didn’t get another origin story taking up 45 minutes of the film but I didn’t think Batman was fleshed out. He was too good at his job. Batman 100% Mary Sue’ed it up. Every riddle was solved instantly. Every piece of evidence was easily discovered. Every next step of the plot deciphered easily by Batman at every moment. During the narration Batman says he’s been on his nocturnal crusade for 2 years. Wow. He’s very very very good at his job after only 2 years. This left Commissioner Gordon with literally nothing to do during the entire movie. Was so excited to see Jeff Wright (since I love him in every role) as Gordon but all he did was follow Batman around like a puppy dog. He added nothing to the story. Catwoman was the best and most fleshed out character. She had a backstory. She had motivation. She had a reason for every scene she was in. The Riddler was terrifying! Again, well fleshed out! We learned about his motivations as the plot moved forward. Very well done. It was the Riddler / Catwoman movie. Not the Batman movie. Worth the watch but far from excellent.

  • @benjaminngopwaamos6878
    @benjaminngopwaamos6878 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Every Zack Snyder movie involving Superman was (as some have described it) "destruction porn". It lacks any emotional weight or impact on the characters.
    Also, I like how in comparison, Reeves' Batman shows how impactful Batman's punches are against Nolan's Batman punches.

  • @jayw3512
    @jayw3512 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m late to this since I recently discovered this channel. Which, is fantastic. I’ve watched Reeves/Pattinsons Batman probably dozen times. It gets better every time. I agree with everything you said in video. We appreciate your insights! However, we have serious Marvel problem right now. Why am I saying this other than the fact it’s true? Because Reeves directing/writing, etc is what made phases 1-3 so dang special and now it’s all over. Perhaps Marvel should call Reeves! Also, where’s the channel that has yourself and Platoon discussing Marvel? There was a clip in another one of your reviews for a somewhat more recent Marvel movie? I think there were 2 others on that chat. I appreciate letting know if ever can get to this. Thank you dude!

  • @razarryan2465
    @razarryan2465 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video praises The Batman AND shits all over Zack Snyder? Perfection 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻

  • @Devil-Made
    @Devil-Made 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yup. Every point is SPOT. ON. Down to the freakin jaw line. Perfect video praising a perfect movie from a damn near perfect director. Love it.

  • @superwatto941
    @superwatto941 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like this movie but I prefer all 3 Nolan films. Not that the Batman does anything worse but I just prefer the tone, score and story of the Nolan movies. I adore all 3 even Rises. Especially Rises.

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I completely respect that and they’re definitely different flicks (despite both The Batman and TDK trilogy being dark/more realistic). The Dark Knight is one of my favorite movies I’ve ever seen. I don’t dislike Begins or Rises by any stretch, I just *love* Dark Knight. I can watch all 3 and enjoy them straight through to this day-I just personally feel Begins and Rises are vastly improved/propped up by how incredible TDK was.

  • @bengough6772
    @bengough6772 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah I loved this movie. I loved the pace the tone,the story,I loved the balance of action, mystery,threat and tension
    Everyone worked in their part so well

  • @firstlast9846
    @firstlast9846 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *I disagree on the little girl part of BvS* it clearly did remind him of himself.. as he’s seeing another child who has lost a parent to something they felt they were powerless to stop.. bare in mind - it’s been 30+ years since Bruce has felt that powerless to stop something - so when confronted with that feeling again - he acts out.. I don’t like BvS but it’s unnecessarily shit on sometimes

  • @ApprehensiveWitch
    @ApprehensiveWitch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really enjoyed your take on this. Looking forward to seeing more of your content. Note: Any chance you could link or reference the video you mentioned of the Nolan tunnel scene that was reworked by a professional editor? I would love to see that.

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you Rachel! Morbius analysis (it’s not as kind to that film as this video is to the Batman) will be up tomorrow, I hope you check that out and enjoy. I think the re-edit I viewed might’ve been removed, but this is a perfect deconstruction of the scene. Below is the link to part 1 of 3, you’ll find the other parts when you follow this link!
      th-cam.com/video/801sR_U1Xkw/w-d-xo.html

  • @shiznit6899
    @shiznit6899 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Youve given me hope for the future of dc. Havent gone to see another dc movie since batman v superman and suicide squad was the next and last one i tried. Ill watch this one and see

  • @jermainerucker2027
    @jermainerucker2027 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks to this movie every time I get up in the middle of the night to take a dump.
    I picture the Batman theme song as I slowly…menacingly walk down the dark hall of my house
    Da! Da! Dum! Dum! Dum!
    Daaaaaaaa!

  • @nicholasmartins3030
    @nicholasmartins3030 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Loved, your video is by far my favorite the Batman review

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Incredibly kind words. There are more reviews like it to come, just a new channel trying to get off the ground. But doing my best to make high quality content. Thanks so much for watching!

  • @JuanJohn-Raytheon
    @JuanJohn-Raytheon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was solid enough until they decided to do the Riddler army at the end. 6/10

  • @crypt0sFX
    @crypt0sFX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still doesn't touch Nolan's Batman Films for me. This one was excellent but Dark Knight was a masterpiece, even Batman Begins I would say neck and neck with this one.

  • @steviekyme9153
    @steviekyme9153 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching this video has made me want to watch this again. The first time I thought it was good but not exactly smack my arse and call me Sandra good. I wasnt a fan of the long reaching shots of him on his bike and stuff like that but I enjoyed all the action scenes and the story building. Gotta go back now. Seven which you draw obvious comparisons to is one of my top favourite films so need to check this film again

  • @kevinscott59
    @kevinscott59 ปีที่แล้ว

    How to make a neo-noir?
    Well for one thing,when the Villain is called "the Riddler" and it's a noir detective story,all the riddles shouldn't be revealed some 45 minutes before the climax unfolds.Hell the Riddler was basically inconsequential to the entire third act of the film.Not to mention the Riddler was a compelling villain in the movie...all the way up until his identity was revealed and he had actually had to act.
    On another note Colin Farrell as Penguin had the coldest performance in this entire flick.

  • @iterationfackshet1990
    @iterationfackshet1990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don’t think they looked at Arkham origins for the suit, it looks much more similar to knights. Some parts such as the neck guard look inspired by the Gotham knights anime suit while the cowl is the stereotypical short ears for a younger batman.

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve heard multiple ideas of where the inspiration came from, I hadn’t heard the anime Gotham Knights one. Good observation. The Gotham By Gaslight and Origins were my interpretation; I think the mask, with the stitching, is very Gotham By Gaslight. I wonder if they’ll continue to upgrade the suit over the next two films. In some ways I wish they wouldn’t, I really enjoy this one.

    • @iterationfackshet1990
      @iterationfackshet1990 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheMovieCynic the stitching and cowl in general does look inspired by Gotham by Gaslight, but I think that the chest was more inspired by Arkham Knight rather than origins due to how the chest is made of several pieces and moves around like the knight suit. I think that the bottom half was inspired by flashpoint batman, especially due to the leg holster. The suit also somewhat resembles overall the year one suit.
      I do think Origins could’ve inspired how Bruce designed the suit, since it looks more like repurposed gear rather than a purpose made suit, just like in origins.
      I do want him to upgrade to a more purpose made suit, but retain most of the characteristics of this suit. Especially the gauntlets since they’re so unique.

  • @tommycreedon
    @tommycreedon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Calling ZS self-indulgent for the narration is quite off the mark. MR doesn’t have to set up the exposition because it’s addressed as the Wayne Family secrets slowly unfold. And ZS needs to set up the back story in order to note the significance of the Martha connection. While we can agree to disagree ( I thought it was rather brief and beautifully shot) on the quality, to say it was just self-indulgent is silly. Now you’re just bashing to bash.

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It’s not just his storytelling that I’m referring to as self indulgent though. His gratuitous use of slo-mo speaks for itself in that regard. I do note the Martha connection for the backstory, but there could’ve been a million different ways to do that instead of re-doing the tried and true origin rehash. Not to mention, possibly a way to do it without getting a laugh out of 3/4ths of the people in the theater when “Martha” is said as the connecting tissue between the two heroes. Also, “Cynic” is in the name-I stand by my Snyder bashing any day of the week. To that end, I really do appreciate you dropping in and commenting. Thanks for taking the time to watch the vid.

    • @tommycreedon
      @tommycreedon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheMovieCynic other than us agreeing to disagree on one issue, it’s a very well-done video! Props to your insight!

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tommycreedon thanks good sir. If you stick around you might find some stuff we agree on in the future. Hope to see your responses either way. Take care!

  • @ewa1275
    @ewa1275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    underrated video, keep it going

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I really appreciate the support, thank you. This is a new channel so getting anything through the algorithm is a terrifying prospect. Thanks for the watch

    • @ewa1275
      @ewa1275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheMovieCynic i just dont agree w ur snyder take, but thats ur opinion so its aight.

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ewa1275 And to each their own! I don’t wish to take away from anyone’s enjoyment of a movie with my opinions. It’s improbable that someone feels the same as another on every single subject.

  • @santinodewreede3955
    @santinodewreede3955 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those weren’t Snyder’s movies. It is open fact WB butchered what was put out in theaters.

  • @3Rayfire
    @3Rayfire 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Flaws? What flaws? OK I do have one gripe with this film. The Fourth Act. I have no constructive offering here, because I don't know how he could've handled the transition better. It's like an imperfection on the texture without there being any structural weakness, but capturing the Riddler feels like the appropriate climax. Then we go into the Fourth Act where we have to deal with the flood and his followers. I don't know if it was bladder fatigue or what, but the last act feels like...mandatory DLC. I was happy to see it, but I feel like it's something I had to play/watch to get the true ending. Though in theater I remember being somewhat elated, "wait....the movie's still going? AWESOME." And it was a brilliant ending. But something about the way it connected to the rest of the film felt... off. I don't even know if I would change it, but it's the old negative thing I have to say about this instant classic.

  • @theyellowbrickroad5437
    @theyellowbrickroad5437 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    points of "flaws"
    1. rippped from rorschach in watchmen
    2. ripped from "seven"
    3. green ooze saves the day, not batman
    4. he was looking for the blonde girl (forgot her name) but leaves her alone while knowing shes in trouble to follow catwoman
    5. watches catwoman change clothes
    6. allows penguin to commit several crimes in front of him including - money exchange with catwoman, 30 car highway pile-up, penguin pulling gun out to shoot at falcone
    7. horror violins to jump scare the audience
    8. batman falls after cutting electrical wire, film implies its meaningful or climatic but batman gets up in like 5 seconds
    9. batman saves 2 people the entire movie - the asian dude in the beginning and the corrupt cop that cat woman pushed off a ledge
    10. falcone's glasses never come off
    11. there is no existential development of batman other than some riddler goon saying "im vengence"
    12. cops capture batman (while hes unconscious), dont like him, and leave his mask on and not even handcuff him
    13. batman knocks on club doors
    14. batman hits overpass in squirrel suit and walks away
    15. the deleted scene is a ripoff of silence of the lambs
    16. you should re-watch the movie... "masterpiece"?

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A few of these were touched on in the video essay as points of strength. Taking from other genres, specific films… as with anything, how you feel about it is ultimately subjective. I appreciate the mixing/matching. Objective criticisms can inform an opinion, but no film is utterly flawless. Some flaws can bother one person more than another. I’ve covered a number of these topics you touched on in the comments below (and agree with some criticisms) but I stand by my feelings on it. The video details my POV, but I respect your opinion. Thanks for stopping by and dropping a comment 🙏

    • @theyellowbrickroad5437
      @theyellowbrickroad5437 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheMovieCynic theres a fine line between "influence" and plagiarism..... one quick thing though - what were your thoughts about the green ooze that batman injects himself with and almost kills a guy because of it (gordon stops him) and then cuts an electrical wire to fall to his supposed death (strictly using dramatic effects) and then him getting up 5 seconds later to "give someone a hand" and then the movie wants the audience to look at him as a hero?... where in a hero's journey narrative does that hold up as a masterpiece?

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Plagiarism is a stretch. To answer your questions: I took Batman as almost Punisher-Lite in this movie, with his recognition at the end that he needs to be a lot more than that. That’s why they were afraid of him when he went to “lend a hand”. Fair criticism on the electrical wire emotional manipulation.

    • @theyellowbrickroad5437
      @theyellowbrickroad5437 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheMovieCynic and the green ooze?

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theyellowbrickroad5437 the Punisher-Lite interpretation was my answer to what I thought of that scene-if you’re asking what I thought it was? Sorry, am not clear on your Q. But I originally thought it was supposed to be interpreted as some sort of adrenaline shot.

  • @jeremyball116
    @jeremyball116 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well I know this won’t go over well but the BvS warehouse fight was directed by Zack. It was actually the first thing on the whole film they shot. He is seen in bts photos and footage and hand picked Richard Cetrone (the stunt double) to try and get the part. Also another falsity about Snyder’s work is there’s no opening monologue during the Wayne’s death in BvS. Yes it opened with Bruce talking but that part ends before that whole sequence but I know nobody really cares that much but just figured I’d point out a couple of the mistakes.

  • @CaptOrbit
    @CaptOrbit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    That feeling when you're reminded of how awful the Snyderverse films are and your last name is Snyder.
    Batman v. Superman is one of the worst films I've seen in I don't know how long. Rarely does a film actually make me angry with its badness but that one did.
    On the other hand Matt Reeves' The Batman is awesome. I've already seen it four times. And yes just like the 1989 Batman this one is destined to become a classic.

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Your first sentence made me LOL 😂 Thanks for dropping in and checking the vid out. I’m still stuck at 3 viewings of The Batman but it’s coming out on digital in the U.S. already in just a couple weeks I believe?! So wild.

    • @OfficialBryle
      @OfficialBryle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Someone of Matt Reeve’s caliber should be the architect of DC universe. And not some glorified action movie director

    • @jacksonmay153
      @jacksonmay153 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Save Martha!

    • @luciusnguyen2449
      @luciusnguyen2449 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I feel you man, to me BvS is the biggest let down in superheroes cinematic history. Before BvS I waited my entire life to see Batman and Superman team up on the big screen. I was so sure that BvS was gonna be the greatest movie in comic book movie history because it's 2 most iconic comic book characters sharing a movie for the first time, why wouldn't it be a masterpiece? But Snyder manage to surprised me, a director who got the honor to make the first Batman and Superman movie and manage to create a piece of shit out of it.

    • @Madheim777
      @Madheim777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      nah, nothing is more horrible than Dragon Ball Evolution. even BvS is a masterpiece compared with that.

  • @HimanshuKumar_24
    @HimanshuKumar_24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn , this is some high class content. Quick subscribe

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you!!! I’m trying to get new content out weekly, but I’m at a bi-weekly pace. It takes me quite a lot of hours to get one of these made, but I’m hoping to get on a roll with them. Quality over quantity is the name of my game.

  • @jacobeisermann6484
    @jacobeisermann6484 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m still fairly certain Pattinson’s Batman is somewhere on the spectrum. Once he puts on the mask he feels huge, and he is staring constantly. Without the mask, he shrinks in on himself and can barely look anyone in the eye, even Alfred.
    🤷🏾

  • @boundbyvillainy
    @boundbyvillainy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You're right this movie was made perfectly. I find it so comforting how close to reality it is. Like if I lived in this trash ass Gotham I'll be at peace knowing I live in the same city as Rob's emo Batman that's not stuck up his own rich ass and cares about doing right by the vulnerable citizens. Also I appreciate that diverse ppl have good speaking roles in this one instead of one group trying to gatekeep who in Gotham gets seen. A Batman aiming for reality has to be realistic in how society ACTUALLY looks not how primitive idiots want it to look.

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’d say the movie didn’t just have a diverse cast with great speaking roles, they were extremely prominent! I loved Jeff Wright as Gordon and Zoe Kravitz is my favorite Catwoman. It’s easily the most grounded and realistic version of Batman to date. Thanks so much for watching and commenting!

  • @TheRightRoast
    @TheRightRoast 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Visually stunning film but personally I think it had pacing issues in the final third. Just seemed to unravel a bit towards the end. A shame as I would agree it is visually & conceptually stunning & the casting is perfect. Close to greatness but let down with weaknesses in the script is all.

    • @tamd5670
      @tamd5670 ปีที่แล้ว

      The pacing just changes it doesn’t unravel

  • @plasticweapon
    @plasticweapon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i'm gonna go watch batfleck.

  • @Mve-90
    @Mve-90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review and totally agree, can't stop thinking about this movie for a month now. I would love to see a ranking video from you about the Batman live action movies.

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s not a bad idea! I’ll put that on the list. Got a few videos up my sleeve beforehand that I’m working on.

  • @kevinmccabe7263
    @kevinmccabe7263 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for making this video! I absolutely love this movie and it's getting so much uncalled for flack!

  • @Halejandrino
    @Halejandrino ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s shot very well. But actually, the story and a lot of the development you speak of are quite shallow. I for one didn’t like the use of nirvana to the score. Original score would’ve been more appropriate. Script was subpar. Andy serkis and John turturro was awkwardly cast for me.
    Lastly, I recently find the use of social media “scenes” in movies played out. And dare I say tacky.

  • @RichEDMixed
    @RichEDMixed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think The Batman did a fantastic job with handling the origin. If your not going to show it cause movie audiences know it by heart then it needs to have an effect on the character and be prominent for the character.

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree. We still want to see how Bruce’s past effects him in the here and now and they did a brilliant job doing it.

    • @RichEDMixed
      @RichEDMixed 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheMovieCynic it's something that was missing in the MCU spiderman as well.

  • @MarkArandjus
    @MarkArandjus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I forgot Tomas Wayne tried to punch a guy with a gun in the Snyder thing. I guess Bruce gets his intelligence after his mother.

  • @Random_angler
    @Random_angler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No way he disrespected bale like that

  • @salvadorjimenez2502
    @salvadorjimenez2502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why i think this movie is far from a masterpiece: 1- convenience, 2- obviousness, 3 - poor ending. 1, that very cool albeit unnecessary chase scene. its good, but batman lucks out that he didnt die crashing into flipping trailer, or get arrested for being an accomplice to what id imagine, a fuck ton of deaths in that explosion (at least 2 - the semi driver, and whoever crashed into that trailer). 2, how come nobody bothered once to investigate where the photos were taken, like not even Moroni had guys look into what is fucking across the damn street?! 3, its such a hokey ending. Had it ended with the public realizing batman's indirect fault for the city falling into greater apathy as a result of riddler creating an insurgency, and he getting so much blame for it - that would have felt more like seven. They could have even casted a Harvey Bullock to instigate the city via social media smearing. This would have been far more depressing, but also explain further why the police hate batman, and prob saved 40 minutes. its still a good movie, but masterpiece it is not.

    • @Mechani-Kong
      @Mechani-Kong 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed, I really like it but falls short. I’m also not a fan of the Nirvana song (so unnecessary). But I’m really looking forward to the next one.

    • @levidestin6783
      @levidestin6783 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      damn your ending sounds way better...fuck i wish that was the case

  • @matthansigowa3988
    @matthansigowa3988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not so much a counterpoint but probably my biggest gripe is that Bruce and Alfred needed more screen time. (Spoilers ahead if you somehow haven't seen it yet) Alfred almost dying due to Riddler's bomb could've had more emotional weight if the relationship between him and Bruce had some more time to be developed. Conversely, I'm still on the fence about the Selina Kyle being Falcone's daughter reveal. I've seen the Long Halloween animated movie and knew this movie took inspiration so I wasn't surprised, but I'm just still not sure how I feel about it. Other than that, movie's a solid like 9.5/10 in my book

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did have similar feelings regarding the Alfred almost-death scene. I felt like the emotional weight came from our established knowledge of who the characters already are, which is a criticism I normally lobby at movies. I gave it a pass for this one because all the other elements worked so well-in my opinion a masterpiece doesn’t mean absolute perfection. Nothing can be absolutely *perfect*. As far as the Selina Kyle / Falcone connection, I appreciated it but can understand trepidation over it. I appreciate the “because this happened” storytelling the movie did with it rather than “and then this happened” techniques modern movies use - aka, plot contrivances to move the story forward.
      Thank you so much for watching the vid and the thoughtful comments!

    • @matthansigowa3988
      @matthansigowa3988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheMovieCynic I found it easy to overlook too since the movie does SO many things well. The Selina Kyle-Falcone aspect just felt like a *little* too much. I wouldn't have minded seeing it developed more in some other movie but oh well. The Batman is still a masterpiece. Your discussion on Nolan's filmmaking has reminded me that his trilogy hasn't aged the best. I still really like it and I think you were a *little* harsh on his action. The choreography wasn't great but I loved the practicality of a lot of it. Like the semi that flipped after an explosion. I also haven't seen them in a few years so that might partially be nostalgia talking. Your thoughts on Snyder's Batman made me realize why I didn't like many recent DC movies. Obviously Batman killing people was a stupid decision but everything else just made me feel hollow. Something about the films just looked wrong. I had zero emotional investment in this Batman and most of the DCEU. You really put my feelings into words

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@matthansigowa3988 I probably didn’t make my thoughts as clear as I wanted them to be on Nolan’s trilogy in the video, I really don’t have anything against them. The Dark Knight is one of my favorite movies of all-time, and I definitely don’t hate the other two in the trilogy, I just happen to think Dark Knight really props up the bookends of that series. I thought Begins was just “ok” when it first came out, and thought Rises was the best they could do to end that trilogy without being able to have Joker involved. TDK made the other two movies better, that’s for sure. As far as the action, I actually thought I was pretty light on it lol his scenes are constructed well, they’re just not *edited* well. They are definitely e Julie rating, but the choppiness makes them equally frustrating. I totally agree, that truck flip in TDK is one of the best things out to celluloid. I tried my best to be balanced when it came to discussing TDK trilogy because I respect Nolan a lot. And with Snyder’s trilogy, I tried to watch them again recently and you hit the mail on the head… I just feel *hollow* when watching them. I don’t think I was too harsh on those, that’s for sure lol especially with how harsh Snyder is to anyone who dares criticize his work.

    • @matthansigowa3988
      @matthansigowa3988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheMovieCynic Agree on all counts here. I misinterpreted your criticism of specifically the EDITING as opposed to the actual action. Regardless, solid review. Keep up the good work!

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matthansigowa3988 thank you Matthan! You have a super badass name btw

  • @underwrapsofficial
    @underwrapsofficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    damn I just now noticed that you only have 432 subscribers. short story there's now 433. but honestly, I consider this channel underrated and you deserve way more attention considering you're better than 90% of reviewers.

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I really appreciate that!!! It’s still a brand new channel (just a month into this) so i hope the word gets spread over time. I’ll be doing my best to get out the best content I possibly make to earn everyone’s trust and support.

  • @dis_inferno9173
    @dis_inferno9173 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This Batman feels like The Batteen.

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He had to grow up from somewhere.

  • @noormeriva397
    @noormeriva397 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I rarely comment, but man I love your 3 last videos, your humor and editing is so funny!! Keep going and good luck 👏👏👏

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much! I really appreciate you taking the time to comment 😊 I hope you enjoy future videos just as much!

  • @protecteroftheburg8623
    @protecteroftheburg8623 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Greattt video broski keep it up

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much! I’ll definitely continue posting and trying to improve. Much appreciated!

  • @joshuatruby3378
    @joshuatruby3378 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really did enjoy the movie as a whole. However I felt like the last 30 minutes of the movie probably didn't have to be there that's where it started to lose me a little bit

  • @sdm_za
    @sdm_za 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:37 Batman's origin in BvS was for a reason in the context of the movie

  • @thesleepingfist
    @thesleepingfist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where did you see this fixed dark knight scene

  • @terminal2313
    @terminal2313 ปีที่แล้ว

    Completely agree with everything you said in this video, I just have one critique, never refer to Nirvana as a pop band or pop musicians again. They're Grunge Rock or 90s Punk if you will!

  • @j.mgiovine4934
    @j.mgiovine4934 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude wtf, Sin City (2005) is like, the peak of Graphic Novel adaptations!!!

  • @Unrealizedthoughts0
    @Unrealizedthoughts0 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pattinson's Bruce Wayne depended on Batman to give him some since of peace and identity. BvS could've work:
    1: Emphasize Bruce putting the suit back on: The trailers were great at this. In the 1st act, have him constantly see Gotham go down further and watch Superman from his perspective. 1 night, he has a nightmare of his parents' murder. He wakes up and looks at the Batman (Like the trailers).
    2: Establish a victim who's an opposing force: Lex Luthor with a Metallo or Bizarro could've been good for the movie. Lex needs to be in the same position as Bruce (unwilling to accept Superman and willing to do anything to get rid of him). Difference is Bruce has Batman, Lex has his ego.

  • @adamgonzalez9138
    @adamgonzalez9138 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I thought this was excellent review, and I’ve subbed to hopefully to get more bangers like this

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for subbing man!!! I’ve literally been working on my next video the entire day, just going back and forth between working on it and responding to comments lol I personally think it’ll be a banger, it’s a review of Morbius and I’m trying to go the extra *10 miles*. Nothing on this channel will be a “standard” way of reviewing or analyzing films-I’m trying to do it with humor, being informative, and super tight editing. It takes a bit to make a vid because of it, but quality over quantity. Thanks again man! Hope you enjoy the upcoming content!

  • @gtamediaproductions1
    @gtamediaproductions1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Having grace in Matt Reeves film direction was so noticeable. It made such a massive difference to the way we see the action sequences in this film. Made the fighting and action scenes more believable.

    • @TheMovieCynic
      @TheMovieCynic  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      After one director who used choppy, spliced up action sequences, then another who only did slo-mo, it was nice to see someone just set the camera there and let things unfold. Something so simple is a breath of fresh air.

    • @hashshashiin.forsī
      @hashshashiin.forsī 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheMovieCynic it feels so raw yet fascinating

  • @ThaGhettoBlaster
    @ThaGhettoBlaster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Affleck is still the best Batman. He never got his full shot but come on. He was seriously above the rest

    • @BIGSAM-O-A
      @BIGSAM-O-A 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed. Can you imagine if this was his movie. 🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @MattDoesLife539
    @MattDoesLife539 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That scene with the neck-bomb in the church legit spooked me, and we are talking about a PG SUPERHERO MOVIE in 2022. It can be done guys!

  • @tmalecki1521
    @tmalecki1521 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Matt Reeves is such a phenomenal filmmaker. Cloverfield, Let Me In (yes, I know this is an American remake of Let The Right One In, and it’s not as good as the original but it’s still wonderfully done), Both Dawn and War Ape movies, and now The Batman.
    “Uh! I fuckin love this!”

    • @Lone432345
      @Lone432345 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cloverfield sucks. "Hey lets have a Monster movie where you don't see the Monster and you follow these boring 20 somethings around while they get killed. Also lets do that found footage bullshit from the Blair Witch Project and lets shake the camera as much as possible." I m starting think that Apes movies were good because Mark Bomback.