@@TriniT21 I wish during the Bill Bell years Stephanie and Victor had crossed paths and become friends. Like Stephanie, Victor is very perceptive. He would've respected the hell out of her.
*_"If he didn't hear what I was saying to Deacon, he never would've known anything."_* It's one thing for Thorne to overhear Brooke, but has she ever tried listening to herself?! She's basically admitting the problem was that she got caught, not what she did!
Yes, I caught that too! Once again there is that lack of accountability and refusal to see that the actual problem is Brooke _having_ feelings for Ridge, not Thorne _finding out_ about it.
Just like the night in that Venice's hotel when Ridge came on to her and Thorne saw it! She convinced Thorne she was deceived avoiding the fact she fell into Ridge's net.
Stephanie is in *FULL STORYTELLER* mode in this scene! She so effortlessly switches between drama and comedy ("Great day for Thorne!" "Brooke Logan Forrester Forrester Forrester"), she reads Brooke's character and actions accurately, she narrates their feud and their essential personality conflict ("It's not just a matter of style!") and she even even predicts the future where Brooke will steal her daughter's husband and Stephanie will be defending Bridget ("I'll save my sympathy for the next victim. I wonder who it will be? We're running out of Forresters.")
@@annieo6527 Like you said, there was too much material to even try to cover all of it in the comments. During the scene, I was wishing we could all do a division of labor and each take a separate Stephanie line. 😁
@@NewYorkNick0607I wrote a comment in real time about one of the first good lines she said, and then realized that while I was writing she had said three more good lines, and they just kept piIing up. I wanted to go back and rewatch but at that point it was past midnight.
I love how even Macy's tombstone is troIIing Thorne. 😂 Only her maiden name is written on it, and the inscription "beloved daughter and sister" deliberately leaves out the "wife" part, as if Thorne never existed and definitely doesn't deserve a mention. Sally undoubtedly did that on purpose.
He didn’t deserve a mention. Yes she deserved to be recognized as a dedicated wife but having his name on tombstone when it was his fault for her “death “ would have been an honor he did not deserve.
Not Thorne grieving over macy's grave. 😡He has some nerve, esp after he didn't even remember the one year anniversary of her death. Sally should show up and pelt him with rotten onions and tomatoes.
Thorne you treated Macy like garbage and threw her away You didn’t even mourn her Now cry by her grave as if she mattered Probably the very first time you went to visit . Boo hoo Get lost And stop dreaming
Stephanie never lied to Brooke about her true feelings about Brooke and all relationships with the men in her family. She never lied about why she went to that wedding and why she stopped fighting for a moment with Brooke. Stephanie was absolutely honest and truthful about her reasoning for all of it with everyone at all time. There was no lying, no manipulation, no agenda and no charade on Stephanie's part.
Right, Brooke here looks like she was deceived by Stephanie (she plays the victim as usual) when it is the opposite. Stephanie gave up fighting with Brooke because Thorne loved her and Bridget asked her to be kind.
Stephanie says that she wished she had stopped flghting Thorne's relationship with Brooke sooner, because that was the one thing that kept them together. 🎯
@@NewYorkNick0607 there was _so much material_ worth quoting in Stephanie's scenes today that I literally couldn't keep up! She was saying everything we have been saying.
Exactly! One thing Brooke loves is a challenge. Take that away and she gets bored. One of the many problems with Brooke as we have all said, is that she sees everything as a competition she has to win. She's really only mad and sad bc Thorne left her first, so she's lost, and it seems Steph won. (Had it been Brooke leaving Thorne instead, she would have felt like she won, even if steph was happy about it). Look at her little solliloquy at the end... Now she's planning yet another competition to "win" over Steph.
Not to mention the gift paper... The fact that Brooke thinks a photo album will just undo everything... Smh.. She must really think Steph is a cheap date..
Susan Flannery is _phenomenal_ in this "smoke and mirrors" scene! 👏👏👏 And Stephanie is so on point in her description of the storyline and Brooke's character. She mercilessly holds a mirror in front of Brooke and shows her the ugIy truth.
And she will _literally_ hold Brooke in front of a mirror when she confronts her about the Deacon affair. And yes, this scene is SO good because Stephanie basically boils things down to their essential personality conflict (which I've written about before): Tradition and Family vs Romance and Freedom.
@@NewYorkNick0607 I thought about the literal mirror scene too when watching this! And watching this I realized just how much I've missed this kind of Bill Bell-style character-based writing.
Yup😂😂😂 I just commented the same elsewhere that she thinks Steph is a cheap date 😂😂 She'll give Steph an album that nobody asked for, but not her stock back that she did ask for.. Oh this Brooke.. Lolol
Stephanie: "This bautiful package with NOTHING inside." Strike Stephanie. That is the point! She has nothing to offer. How right she is again that love means so much more than just the body, with heart and soul. But for Brooke, there is only one pillar of a relationship. Unfortunately, she doesn't have enough sense for the others. And certainly not heart and soul.
@@TriniT21 That's how she always wanted to solve her problems. It worked with Ridge, but with Nick she at least sometimes got a bit of a hard time and when I think about her later trying to seduce Eric in order to tie her Bill child to him, I still feel sick.
The typical thing about Ridge - which is later confirmed - is that he always claimed to be the hero for Brooke and demanded that Taylor tolerate the fact that Brooke was obsessed with him. But conversely, he would never have accepted this if a man was so close to Taylor that every time he was in trouble he would cry at Taylor's door and ask her to please comfort him.
Brooke will talk about that til her last day 🙄. And no matter how many times Steph says why she did it (she told her on the wedding day it was bc bridgit asked her and for the sake of her family), Brooke will blow that up like a bigger deal and make it about herself. You'd swear she was marrying Steph and not Thorne lol You'd also swear Brooke doesn't have her own mother to walk her down the aisle
They are using reliable narrator Steph to try to convince us that Brooke somehow is beautiful. I guess they have to, bc I will never ever see Brooke as a beauty who can stand a chance against women like Taylor and Macy. She is basic at best in looks and dress.
@@scor66 I honestly never really noticed how basic Brooke was when I first watched growing up. Now, I can really appreciate the beauty of Taylor and Macy, and it just really stands out how incomparable are their looks to Brooke's. It's crazy that Brooke was supposed to be the most irresistible woman on the show and she looks the worst of everyone lol
@@TriniT21oh , I thought the same! Stephanie has always underlined Brooke sex y ness but never her beauty! And she will say it again! Remember the first Taylor's seasons when there was always a line about Taylor's beauty from men or women? There was nothing at all for Brooke's look.
Bravo, Stephanie!! Thorne & brooke had a part in Macy's death Brooke will never be Stephanie. Notice they didn't put the year Macy was born on the tombstone. Ridge, here, reminds me of Finn with Hope. They got rid of the interesting characters,, Taylor & macy, and kept Brooke. Stephanie will need her empathy for Bridgette and Hope.
I don't know why they didn't put Macy's birth date on the tombstone because she is one of the few aduIt characters (along with Ridge) whose exact birth date has actually been mentioned on the show. Maybe because no dates make sense anymore after the characters born on screen were SORASed.
At the time, they were careful not to refer to Macy as a ghost. She was referred to as a vision of Thorne’s. That told me then she was not dead and would return some day…
Today’s Stephanie/Brooke scene was an embarrassment of riches, but I think my favorite line was Stephanie vocalizing that the glue uniting Thorne and Brooke for so long was their determination to defy her, their thrill of the chase. Yes! That’s what we’ve been saying in the comments for so long now! And this line finally heals the somewhat fractured nature of the writing we saw at the beginning of Thorne and Brooke, where on some days they would show us the tawdry reality of those two, but on other days use cheap tricks like romantic music and blurry lighting to make them seem like a truly romantic pairing. But having Stephanie call out their garbage makes it official canon. As we know, Stephanie is a reliable narrator (or as @NewYorkNick0607 calls her, the storyteller), so by allowing Stephanie to vocalize that Thorne and Brooke were never truly a romantic couple, the show is making it official and telling us it’s time to move on. Onward to Deacon 😂.
Yes! I have been talking about the double narrative throughout the Brooke/Thorne storyline, and how it was always kept open whether their relationship was love or just a unhealthy ob ses sion. Then after the wedding it seemed like the show had decided on the (unconvincing) "it was love" narrative. That's why it's so satisfying hearing Stephanie restore the balance by restating _every part_ of the "reliable narrative" that had been silent for several months, finally telling us that this narrative was the correct one all along. And it feels _right_ - like at last the "narrative vertigo" ends and we are once again on soIid ground in the storytelling. The characters and their motivations are back to normaI. Another thing that was really satisfying to hear put into words (and into canon) was Thorne admitting that Macy was right all along about him and Brooke, and acknowledging what a complete fooI he was for leaving her.
@@annieo6527Well stated! Every part of the story is now in its proper perspective. And Ghost Macy being able to say “I told you so” was the icing on the cake.
@@FayeILgreat posts from you and @AnnieO I always felt that Thorne and Brooke's relationship was just too exaggerated and not natural. But that part actually fit in to Brooke's relationship persona for me. She literally cannot do anything else but make her relationships into some kind of side show at the circus.. It must be a competition she must win.. Whether with Ridge, Eric, or Thorne. And if she does marry or attempt to marry someone else, it's bc there is some ulterior motive (like James or Grant). Steph really puts everything back into perspective here very nicely and allows us to remember the real Brooke Forrester Forrester Forrester 😂 Meanwhile, on another note.. I mentioned in another comment how telling it is that Brooke's idea of relationship is seduction.. Otherwise she might as well become a nun if she can't use her body. It's like she just doesn't understand that relationships are more than just passion and seduction.. Anything else means the person is frigid or just have no relationships at all (kind of reminds me of Eric during his mid life crises as well). And finally... Can Brooke pls get the heck outta Steph's cabin?? Go to a motel where u can be alone, Brooke. But, since she insists on being there.... I really needed Steph to have walked with divorce papers and a pen and shoved them in Brooke's face to sign.
@@TriniT21I’m snorting laughing at “side show at the circus.” It fits because Brooke truly is a 🤡. But on a serious note, you were on target with your analysis of Brooke’s take in relationships. She really does not know how to have one. Lurching from one drama to the next, one seduction to the next her whole life.
0:45 Stephanie needs to get h er 👀 checked. It must've been a clause in every consecutive contract since the 90s, for the script to call Brooke beautiful.😂
@@sharonstewart4882 Right! Nobody was calling Brooke beautiful back in the day….except for Eric maybe? Ridge never did. He only made comments about her figure and called Caroline beautiful frequently
@@Esi-741it's true.. Ridge was the only man she "loved" and he'd call her everything but beautiful 😂 I think Steph needed to say it so it could sound believable that there is some reason these men seem to be attracted to Brooke.
Susan Flannery's like deliveries are 🔥. I wonder if all her dialogue was scripted, or if some of it was improvised. The biting wit of both the words and the delivery are in a completely different league from anything else we see on this show.
Absolutely! Her dialogue in this episode is really outstanding. I doubt that it's improvised though because it seems too structured and the delivery by SF is too well crafted.
@@jemekiahall5848 I suppose they are trying to remind us why Brooke can apparently get all these men. Bc unless they spell it out, it is unfathomable as to how she can get any man away from women like Taylor or Macy.
If only Macy were really there to laugh in Thorne's face. Although, as he himself acknowledges, she has too much class for that. Brooke, on the other hand ...
Hard to take Brooke seriously when she keeps doing the most foolish things. She’s so shameless . Especially when we all know what’s not too far ahead, and that would be the affair with Deacon. which results in the gift that keeps on giving(yes I’m letting that comment drip with sarcasm ), in the form of one of my not so fave characters named Brooke Jr aka Hope.
@@annlavine3576 I can agree with you. There was a time I wasn’t so anti-Hope. The little girl was cute, then when Kim Matula came on the show as teen Hope, I liked how she was a sweet kind-hearted girl who was everything Brooke wasn’t . I too, had to change a port about hope when she ran off with Wyatt and married him simply because she didn’t see Liam at 3 o’clock on the dot. if she could’ve just waited five more minutes, he would’ve been there. And it just drove me nuts that she was waiting for the love of her life, but because she didn’t see him, she runs off and pledges her life to his brother. That was so ridiculous. I was definitely a turning point for me, I won’t even get started on how she’s been behaving lately lol
*@Trish* Steph will remind Brooke: _"you want you want to be me, but you're not willing to put in the work."_ 🎯 _"You're a good good mother, if we take out the role model aspect of it."_ Stephanie is a reliable narrator as always.
Brooke Logan forrester forrester forrester 😆Stephanie hilarious she was the life of this show the uncles and cousins or either to young or to old I see why macy stayed in Italy had she showed up by know thorne would do everything to get her back she stayed away cause she had to all she went through her love for him was deep but he should have appreciated it more
God I swear these were the best storylines! Queen Stephanie was my favorite character and I loved her fighting with selfish and self-absorbed Brooke! I always rooted for Stephanie, Taylor and Macy! I miss those characters.
If macy had never 'died' i bet thorne would have run right to her door. And he is roght macy wouldn't have laughed at him. She would have been kimder to him than he was to her.
Yes he would have done that exact thing. That's exactly what he did a few years earlier when he divorced Macy and was running after Taylor and she rejected his marriage proposal and offer to pretend her son was his and not Ridge's. He went straight back to macy's door. And the saddest part was that Macy finally found some happiness with Grant and Thorne just couldn't let her have that.
‘’God save the poor priest’! ‘I don’t give a flying fig who you do it too or who you do it with’. Love my Stephanie! The show has been garbage since the day she left!!
How would it be settling when Macy was his first choice? He never would have got involved with Brooke in the first place if he didn't believe that Macy had rejected his marriage proposal.
@@annieo6527 so, when Thorne find Bridg in bed, he quickly marry Macy to get over Brooke nothing should’ve make him go back to Brooke if the love he had for Macy is strong. He went right back to Brooke after he discovered the truth because he was settling for Macy. The same thing Brooke did with him
@@zianaboating6052 I commented at the time that Thorne's ob ses sion with Brooke was written like a kind of add ict ion. Thorne was infatuated with Brooke and seemed to be on and off the wagon all the time. When he was looking at the situation in a "sober" way, he chose Macy.
To be honest, the Forrester men are not blameless either, when it comes to Brooke.. How time and again one or all or most of them came to her rescue… And then they added Bill to the mix… 😂
Ridge needs to watch what he says around Dr.Taylor Haynes. Taylor is a psychiatrist, she can see through Ridge by saying “I’m worrying about Brooke”. Smh
Brooke is immature and does bad things. No doubt. But I can’t understand all the praise for Stephanie. Flannery as an actress - absolutely - but Stephanie is a terrible person! She continuously interferes in her adult children’s lives - mostly to get what she wants, pays no attention to her own marriage - then get mad when it falls apart. I don’t get it.
Stephanie is knocking some uppercuts like Mike Tyson with facts, but we know the human trampoline in the words of Diddy "can't stop won't stop" running after ridge with no shame
For Y&R viewers, Stephanie's "Ya understand?" reminds me of Victor Newman's "Ya got that?" 😆
Ahh yes !
Facts😂😂😂😅😅
😂Yeasss
And Queen Steph doesn't even need the leather jacket of The Great Victor Newman...
@@TriniT21 I wish during the Bill Bell years Stephanie and Victor had crossed paths and become friends. Like Stephanie, Victor is very perceptive. He would've respected the hell out of her.
So true. We heard it with Sheila during their epic confrontation when she said "You are finished with Eric! Ya understand? FINISHED!!!"
*_"If he didn't hear what I was saying to Deacon, he never would've known anything."_*
It's one thing for Thorne to overhear Brooke, but has she ever tried listening to herself?! She's basically admitting the problem was that she got caught, not what she did!
Yes, I caught that too! Once again there is that lack of accountability and refusal to see that the actual problem is Brooke _having_ feelings for Ridge, not Thorne _finding out_ about it.
Just like the night in that Venice's hotel when Ridge came on to her and Thorne saw it! She convinced Thorne she was deceived avoiding the fact she fell into Ridge's net.
She's only sorry she got caught..
"Well what a lucky day for him! Wow! Great day for Thorne!" (12:44) 😂😂😂 Susan's line-reading there cracked me up!
*Stephanie:* "You're going to be rejected over and over and over again."
At least a dozen of those were from Ridge.
Bronze medallist in the Ridge Olympics
Stephanie is in *FULL STORYTELLER* mode in this scene! She so effortlessly switches between drama and comedy ("Great day for Thorne!" "Brooke Logan Forrester Forrester Forrester"), she reads Brooke's character and actions accurately, she narrates their feud and their essential personality conflict ("It's not just a matter of style!") and she even even predicts the future where Brooke will steal her daughter's husband and Stephanie will be defending Bridget ("I'll save my sympathy for the next victim. I wonder who it will be? We're running out of Forresters.")
Yes! Fantastic writing in this scene.
Ooh great point about Bridget! Stephanie screaming, "Great day for Thorne!" made me laugh so much. 😂😂
These episodes are the reward we need after weeks of boredom
@@annieo6527 Like you said, there was too much material to even try to cover all of it in the comments. During the scene, I was wishing we could all do a division of labor and each take a separate Stephanie line. 😁
@@NewYorkNick0607I wrote a comment in real time about one of the first good lines she said, and then realized that while I was writing she had said three more good lines, and they just kept piIing up. I wanted to go back and rewatch but at that point it was past midnight.
"Brooke Logan Forrester Forrester Forrester!" God I loved Queen Stephanie!
Stephanie is like Brooke's mirror.
Waw that part waw so funny 😂
Oh don't mind me, just over here cheering for queen Stephanie!🎉😂
I'm over here cheering with you 🎉🎉🍹🥂🙌🏽😊
Trini!🎉😂😂 @@TriniT21
I love her calling her Brooke Logan Forrester , Forrester , Forrester over and over 😱
I rewatched it at least 5 times. Steph couldn’t wait for Brooke to prove her right so she can tear her apart
Stephanie is legendary on this show... I miss her ❤
I miss her immensely ❤
Stephanie was awesome, somwtimes when I need to be cheered up I go and watch clips of Steph telling Brooke off an it always makes me smile
Me too 😊
Me three
☺️☺️☺️
I love how even Macy's tombstone is troIIing Thorne. 😂
Only her maiden name is written on it, and the inscription "beloved daughter and sister" deliberately leaves out the "wife" part, as if Thorne never existed and definitely doesn't deserve a mention. Sally undoubtedly did that on purpose.
Well thorne deserved it the way he treated macy.
Me too
He didn’t deserve a mention. Yes she deserved to be recognized as a dedicated wife but having his name on tombstone when it was his fault for her “death “ would have been an honor he did not deserve.
Not Thorne grieving over macy's grave. 😡He has some nerve, esp after he didn't even remember the one year anniversary of her death.
Sally should show up and pelt him with rotten onions and tomatoes.
@@TriniT21never mind Sally. Macy's ghost should have reached up and pulled him into the grave. (If she was there.)
Stephanie roasting Brooke Logan Forrester Forrester Forrester!😂🍾🍷 🍿
Thorne you treated Macy like garbage and threw her away
You didn’t even mourn her
Now cry by her grave as if she mattered
Probably the very first time you went to visit .
Boo hoo
Get lost
And stop dreaming
Finally he realizes what precious gift he has lost.
But it is too late.
He dared to ask sally what anniversary a few days ago. Like you lived Macey for ten years. Ten years. And he didn't remember the day she died
He really needs to get lost
Its just terrible yes, its disgusting
Brooke: do you want me to be a nun( apparently for Brooke is her or a nun as a woman type 😂)
Stephanie: God saves the priests😂
Stephanie never lied to Brooke about her true feelings about Brooke and all relationships with the men in her family. She never lied about why she went to that wedding and why she stopped fighting for a moment with Brooke. Stephanie was absolutely honest and truthful about her reasoning for all of it with everyone at all time. There was no lying, no manipulation, no agenda and no charade on Stephanie's part.
Right, Brooke here looks like she was deceived by Stephanie (she plays the victim as usual) when it is the opposite. Stephanie gave up fighting with Brooke because Thorne loved her and Bridget asked her to be kind.
Stephanie is an incredible character she always put Brooke in her place. She always gave it to her straight
The problem is never what Steph says.. Bc she is always honest and open.
The problem is always what Brooke hears and wants it to be.
Even though I dont like Thorne, I am proud of the way he stood up for himself and put Brooke in her place.
Beautiful thumbnail.
I miss Macy.
Beautiful Bobbie Eakes!❤
Me too !
Stephanie says that she wished she had stopped flghting Thorne's relationship with Brooke sooner, because that was the one thing that kept them together. 🎯
Yes! Again it's like she's reading the comments. Or more to the point: narrating the subtext.
@@NewYorkNick0607 there was _so much material_ worth quoting in Stephanie's scenes today that I literally couldn't keep up! She was saying everything we have been saying.
Exactly!
One thing Brooke loves is a challenge. Take that away and she gets bored.
One of the many problems with Brooke as we have all said, is that she sees everything as a competition she has to win. She's really only mad and sad bc Thorne left her first, so she's lost, and it seems Steph won. (Had it been Brooke leaving Thorne instead, she would have felt like she won, even if steph was happy about it).
Look at her little solliloquy at the end... Now she's planning yet another competition to "win" over Steph.
@@TriniT21yes - just like on Caroline's wedding day!
Great Stephanie and Brooke interaction
Brooke Logan Forrester Forrester Forrester 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Brooke: "I gave you that photo album for nothing? That's half an hour of my life that I'm never getting back."
Not to mention the gift paper...
The fact that Brooke thinks a photo album will just undo everything... Smh.. She must really think Steph is a cheap date..
Susan Flannery is _phenomenal_ in this "smoke and mirrors" scene! 👏👏👏
And Stephanie is so on point in her description of the storyline and Brooke's character. She mercilessly holds a mirror in front of Brooke and shows her the ugIy truth.
And she will _literally_ hold Brooke in front of a mirror when she confronts her about the Deacon affair.
And yes, this scene is SO good because Stephanie basically boils things down to their essential personality conflict (which I've written about before): Tradition and Family vs Romance and Freedom.
@@NewYorkNick0607 I thought about the literal mirror scene too when watching this! And watching this I realized just how much I've missed this kind of Bill Bell-style character-based writing.
And Brooke still doesn't get it....
Not Brooke thinking that cheap-ass photo album she gave Stephanie was enough to have earned her full support and loyalty 😂.
Yup😂😂😂
I just commented the same elsewhere that she thinks Steph is a cheap date 😂😂
She'll give Steph an album that nobody asked for, but not her stock back that she did ask for.. Oh this Brooke.. Lolol
Yeah, the one time where one of Brooke's "seduction" techniques went stale fast😂.
Stephanie: "This bautiful package with NOTHING inside." Strike Stephanie. That is the point! She has nothing to offer. How right she is again that love means so much more than just the body, with heart and soul. But for Brooke, there is only one pillar of a relationship. Unfortunately, she doesn't have enough sense for the others. And certainly not heart and soul.
And Brooke proved that point earlier that day when all she felt she had to do was take off her clothes and Thorne would forgive her.
@@TriniT21 That's how she always wanted to solve her problems. It worked with Ridge, but with Nick she at least sometimes got a bit of a hard time and when I think about her later trying to seduce Eric in order to tie her Bill child to him, I still feel sick.
The typical thing about Ridge - which is later confirmed - is that he always claimed to be the hero for Brooke and demanded that Taylor tolerate the fact that Brooke was obsessed with him. But conversely, he would never have accepted this if a man was so close to Taylor that every time he was in trouble he would cry at Taylor's door and ask her to please comfort him.
1:00 “How could anyone love you?” Ouch!!
Stephanie is mean.
Oh please stop rubbing in Stephanie's face that she walked Brooke down the aisle!!
Brooke will talk about that til her last day 🙄. And no matter how many times Steph says why she did it (she told her on the wedding day it was bc bridgit asked her and for the sake of her family), Brooke will blow that up like a bigger deal and make it about herself.
You'd swear she was marrying Steph and not Thorne lol
You'd also swear Brooke doesn't have her own mother to walk her down the aisle
Now Brooke knows how Amber feels when Stephanie tells her the truth about herself.
Lol Stephanie telling Brooke how she treats men as Bed Warmers
Stephanie:“ this beautiful package with nothing inside!“ Perfect description of Brooke!😂(although beautiful is a bit exaggerated!)
They are using reliable narrator Steph to try to convince us that Brooke somehow is beautiful.
I guess they have to, bc I will never ever see Brooke as a beauty who can stand a chance against women like Taylor and Macy.
She is basic at best in looks and dress.
@@TriniT21I couldn’t agree more Trish👏🏻👏🏻
@@scor66 I honestly never really noticed how basic Brooke was when I first watched growing up. Now, I can really appreciate the beauty of Taylor and Macy, and it just really stands out how incomparable are their looks to Brooke's.
It's crazy that Brooke was supposed to be the most irresistible woman on the show and she looks the worst of everyone lol
@@TriniT21oh , I thought the same! Stephanie has always underlined Brooke sex y ness but never her beauty! And she will say it again!
Remember the first Taylor's seasons when there was always a line about Taylor's beauty from men or women? There was nothing at all for Brooke's look.
Bravo, Stephanie!! Thorne & brooke had a part in Macy's death Brooke will never be Stephanie. Notice they didn't put the year Macy was born on the tombstone. Ridge, here, reminds me of Finn with Hope. They got rid of the interesting characters,, Taylor & macy, and kept Brooke. Stephanie will need her empathy for Bridgette and Hope.
I don't know why they didn't put Macy's birth date on the tombstone because she is one of the few aduIt characters (along with Ridge) whose exact birth date has actually been mentioned on the show. Maybe because no dates make sense anymore after the characters born on screen were SORASed.
Brooke Logan Forrester Forrester Forrester! what a line! well done writers!
At the time, they were careful not to refer to Macy as a ghost. She was referred to as a vision of Thorne’s. That told me then she was not dead and would return some day…
@@HunterWrangler yes, they even have Macy saying "this is just a dream, Thorne" to make sure we understand it's not Macy's ghost.
Bravo Stephanie Tell Brooke Like It Is
*@Trish* Steph will remind Brooke: _"you want to be me, but you're not willing to put in the work."_
She's spitting facts 🎯
Stephanie's facts per minute ratio was so high I literally couldn't keep up!
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@@annieo6527 I love the way she reminds her that she brings no substance to the table
@@jemekiahall5848 Steph can now be forgiven for walking her down the aisle
@@tiroyaonejustinphologolo9763 Hope is the same way
When it comes to Brooke Ridge is very naive.
Today’s Stephanie/Brooke scene was an embarrassment of riches, but I think my favorite line was Stephanie vocalizing that the glue uniting Thorne and Brooke for so long was their determination to defy her, their thrill of the chase. Yes! That’s what we’ve been saying in the comments for so long now! And this line finally heals the somewhat fractured nature of the writing we saw at the beginning of Thorne and Brooke, where on some days they would show us the tawdry reality of those two, but on other days use cheap tricks like romantic music and blurry lighting to make them seem like a truly romantic pairing. But having Stephanie call out their garbage makes it official canon. As we know, Stephanie is a reliable narrator (or as @NewYorkNick0607 calls her, the storyteller), so by allowing Stephanie to vocalize that Thorne and Brooke were never truly a romantic couple, the show is making it official and telling us it’s time to move on. Onward to Deacon 😂.
Yes! I have been talking about the double narrative throughout the Brooke/Thorne storyline, and how it was always kept open whether their relationship was love or just a unhealthy ob ses sion. Then after the wedding it seemed like the show had decided on the (unconvincing) "it was love" narrative. That's why it's so satisfying hearing Stephanie restore the balance by restating _every part_ of the "reliable narrative" that had been silent for several months, finally telling us that this narrative was the correct one all along. And it feels _right_ - like at last the "narrative vertigo" ends and we are once again on soIid ground in the storytelling. The characters and their motivations are back to normaI.
Another thing that was really satisfying to hear put into words (and into canon) was Thorne admitting that Macy was right all along about him and Brooke, and acknowledging what a complete fooI he was for leaving her.
@@annieo6527Well stated! Every part of the story is now in its proper perspective. And Ghost Macy being able to say “I told you so” was the icing on the cake.
@@FayeILgreat posts from you and @AnnieO
I always felt that Thorne and Brooke's relationship was just too exaggerated and not natural.
But that part actually fit in to Brooke's relationship persona for me. She literally cannot do anything else but make her relationships into some kind of side show at the circus.. It must be a competition she must win.. Whether with Ridge, Eric, or Thorne. And if she does marry or attempt to marry someone else, it's bc there is some ulterior motive (like James or Grant).
Steph really puts everything back into perspective here very nicely and allows us to remember the real Brooke Forrester Forrester Forrester 😂
Meanwhile, on another note.. I mentioned in another comment how telling it is that Brooke's idea of relationship is seduction.. Otherwise she might as well become a nun if she can't use her body. It's like she just doesn't understand that relationships are more than just passion and seduction.. Anything else means the person is frigid or just have no relationships at all (kind of reminds me of Eric during his mid life crises as well).
And finally... Can Brooke pls get the heck outta Steph's cabin?? Go to a motel where u can be alone, Brooke.
But, since she insists on being there.... I really needed Steph to have walked with divorce papers and a pen and shoved them in Brooke's face to sign.
@@TriniT21I’m snorting laughing at “side show at the circus.” It fits because Brooke truly is a 🤡.
But on a serious note, you were on target with your analysis of Brooke’s take in relationships. She really does not know how to have one. Lurching from one drama to the next, one seduction to the next her whole life.
0:45 Stephanie needs to get h er 👀 checked. It must've been a clause in every consecutive contract since the 90s, for the script to call Brooke beautiful.😂
😂 C Bosten said they had to call her beautiful a lot after the People magazine incident. I really started noticing it after we got that scoop.
@@sharonstewart4882 Right! Nobody was calling Brooke beautiful back in the day….except for Eric maybe? Ridge never did. He only made comments about her figure and called Caroline beautiful frequently
@@sharonstewart4882 Last time C Bosten commented, was saying how he and a colleague would laugh at her expense, over drinks 🤣
@@Esi-741it's true.. Ridge was the only man she "loved" and he'd call her everything but beautiful 😂
I think Steph needed to say it so it could sound believable that there is some reason these men seem to be attracted to Brooke.
Susan Flannery's like deliveries are 🔥. I wonder if all her dialogue was scripted, or if some of it was improvised. The biting wit of both the words and the delivery are in a completely different league from anything else we see on this show.
Absolutely! Her dialogue in this episode is really outstanding. I doubt that it's improvised though because it seems too structured and the delivery by SF is too well crafted.
Are they trying to convince us that Brooke is beautiful?! Stephanie says it twice ruining the perfect 5hit on Brooke o'clock(😉Nick)
After the People magazine thing I guess they had to put that in the script over and over again that Brooke was beautiful!😂
@@jemekiahall5848 Yes! I just said the same thing. 🤣
@@jemekiahall5848 I suppose they are trying to remind us why Brooke can apparently get all these men. Bc unless they spell it out, it is unfathomable as to how she can get any man away from women like Taylor or Macy.
Oh, Thorne. Don’t be sad for Macy now just because your marriage to Brooke flopped.
If only Macy were really there to laugh in Thorne's face. Although, as he himself acknowledges, she has too much class for that. Brooke, on the other hand ...
Even when she does find out, she never laughs in Thorne's face. Unfortunately, she just forgives him and is hurt all over again.
@18:48-18:52- I love this part from Queen Stephanie
Stephanie is for the ages for Brook, and what she thought of doing to Deacon it came for you
Hard to take Brooke seriously when she keeps doing the most foolish things. She’s so shameless . Especially when we all know what’s not too far ahead, and that would be the affair with Deacon. which results in the gift that keeps on giving(yes I’m letting that comment drip with sarcasm ), in the form of one of my not so fave characters named Brooke Jr aka Hope.
I liked Hope when she was little and even when she came back as a teen but all that Hope/liam/ Wyatt/? was too much and I cannot stand her anymore
@@annlavine3576 I can agree with you. There was a time I wasn’t so anti-Hope. The little girl was cute, then when Kim Matula came on the show as teen Hope, I liked how she was a sweet kind-hearted girl who was everything Brooke wasn’t . I too, had to change a port about hope when she ran off with Wyatt and married him simply because she didn’t see Liam at 3 o’clock on the dot. if she could’ve just waited five more minutes, he would’ve been there. And it just drove me nuts that she was waiting for the love of her life, but because she didn’t see him, she runs off and pledges her life to his brother. That was so ridiculous. I was definitely a turning point for me, I won’t even get started on how she’s been behaving lately lol
*@Trish* Steph will remind Brooke: _"you want you want to be me, but you're not willing to put in the work."_ 🎯
_"You're a good good mother, if we take out the role model aspect of it."_
Stephanie is a reliable narrator as always.
Ive waited months for this episode thank you!!!!
Brooke Logan forrester forrester forrester 😆Stephanie hilarious she was the life of this show the uncles and cousins or either to young or to old I see why macy stayed in Italy had she showed up by know thorne would do everything to get her back she stayed away cause she had to all she went through her love for him was deep but he should have appreciated it more
God I swear these were the best storylines! Queen Stephanie was my favorite character and I loved her fighting with selfish and self-absorbed Brooke! I always rooted for Stephanie, Taylor and Macy! I miss those characters.
Where is Kimberly? She should appear at the cemetery to comfort Thorne.
So Brooke's birthday 🎁 to Stephanie was conditional?
Nothing Brooke ever does is unconditional.
Thats Brooke's way all the way from the beginning and will be to the very end.
@@annieo6527 YEP! It's mostly a competition for Brooke
@@andream5998 she want what Stephanie has, always.
That's why her song is "Unforgettable" not "Unconditional."
NOW Thorne you think about Macy, NOW??!
Yeah, where was this devotion last year?
Stephanie Forrester Is Talking About Macy Alexander
If macy had never 'died' i bet thorne would have run right to her door. And he is roght macy wouldn't have laughed at him. She would have been kimder to him than he was to her.
Macy did "die" and Thorne still ran right to her door. In the cemetery. 😂
But she's alive and shortly she's back again
Yes he would have done that exact thing. That's exactly what he did a few years earlier when he divorced Macy and was running after Taylor and she rejected his marriage proposal and offer to pretend her son was his and not Ridge's.
He went straight back to macy's door. And the saddest part was that Macy finally found some happiness with Grant and Thorne just couldn't let her have that.
I notice tylo plays with her hands alot on scenes. Inwonder if knowing what to do with your hands is something that frustrates actors
‘’God save the poor priest’! ‘I don’t give a flying fig who you do it too or who you do it with’. Love my Stephanie! The show has been garbage since the day she left!!
Brooke Logan Forrester Forrester Forrester😂😂😂😂😂 oh Stephanie hahaha
Stephanie is a mean lady😢
Not Stephanie is the evil one here.
Brooke is.
She will go after Ridge very soon.
Dearest Stephanie you were 1 BAD ASS💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖
Lol at brooke 'become a nun' and stephanie's 'god save the poor priests'! :)
Hhh Brooke Logan Forrester Forrester Forrester 🤣🤣🤣 gooooo Stephanie hhh
Wait, was this before Macy went to Italy?
This before they found her in Italy.
This is when Macy _is_ in Italy. Macy isn't actually there in these scenes, it's all in Thorne's mind.
No, she's in Italy now. Which makes this whole story ludicrous in retrospect
I can't believe that Thorne marriage to Brooke is over and Thorne is walk away from Brooke
and the war begins again!
Oh Macy isnt dead !!😂😂
No,but she’s not back yet either
When does Thirn find her alive! Do they ever get back together?
@jgoldfarb3 for a very very brief moment. But he sleeps with Darla before that and gets her pregnant
@@songriver1232 yes I’ve always wanted to see Thorne & Darla
@@jgoldfarb3around Christmas 2002.
If Thorne would’ve stayed with Mercy, that would’ve be like settling like he believed Brooke has to him. The Hypocrisy of it all.
How would it be settling when Macy was his first choice? He never would have got involved with Brooke in the first place if he didn't believe that Macy had rejected his marriage proposal.
@@annieo6527 so, when Thorne find Bridg in bed, he quickly marry Macy to get over Brooke nothing should’ve make him go back to Brooke if the love he had for Macy is strong.
He went right back to Brooke after he discovered the truth because he was settling for Macy.
The same thing Brooke did with him
@@zianaboating6052 I commented at the time that Thorne's ob ses sion with Brooke was written like a kind of add ict ion. Thorne was infatuated with Brooke and seemed to be on and off the wagon all the time. When he was looking at the situation in a "sober" way, he chose Macy.
The damn nerve of Thorne boo hooing to Macy!!
was this an emmy reel for susan?
To be honest, the Forrester men are not blameless either, when it comes to Brooke.. How time and again one or all or most of them came to her rescue… And then they added Bill to the mix… 😂
Y&R Katherine and Jill generations to Stephanie and Brooke B&B
i liked Thorne with Brooke but i loved Thorne with Macy plus with Darla years latter
Ridge needs to watch what he says around Dr.Taylor Haynes. Taylor is a psychiatrist, she can see through Ridge by saying “I’m worrying about Brooke”. Smh
Brooke is immature and does bad things. No doubt. But I can’t understand all the praise for Stephanie. Flannery as an actress - absolutely - but Stephanie is a terrible person! She continuously interferes in her adult children’s lives - mostly to get what she wants, pays no attention to her own marriage - then get mad when it falls apart. I don’t get it.
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Stephanie is knocking some uppercuts like Mike Tyson with facts, but we know the human trampoline in the words of Diddy "can't stop won't stop" running after ridge with no shame
I just can’t stand Taylor.
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