The Death Of Smartthings
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2024
- There is no longer any reason to buy anything from Samsung. Ajax's new Zignito Zigbee 3.0 sensors work with the Samsung Smartthings hub, so why do I think smartthings is finished? First of all; new customers no longer have a reason to buy smartthings because Zignito uses the Tuya platform and Tuya now works without an Internet connection for a third of the price.
Secondly, the Zignito Zigbee 3.0 motion sensor and multipurpose sensors work with Alexa directly if you have a zigbee enabled echo such as the 4th gen Amazon echo which is the first steps towards a hubless future I mentioned a few weeks ago. Alexa isn't quite there yet though and if you're looking for a smartthings security system then Ajax has everything you need and with a hub that costs way less than smartthings.
Thirdly, existing smartthings customers now have a choice of 3rd party
Smartthings motion sensors, smartthings multipurpose sensors, smartthings water leak sensors, and smartthings smart buttons at a time when there is no Samsung smartthings stock. There is now no reason to buy anything from Samsung directly and this will bring their platform to an end, it's only a matter of time.
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Happy Saturday everyone! Why do I think Smartthings is Finished? Well, there is no longer any reason to buy anything from Samsung. Among other companies Ajax's new Zignito Zigbee 3.0 sensors work with the Samsung Smartthings hub meaning there's no reason to buy Samsung's sensors... and new customers no longer have a reason to buy smartthings because there are cheaper zigbee hubs such as Zignito that now work without an Internet connection for a third of the price.
Secondly, the Zignito Zigbee 3.0 motion sensor and multipurpose sensors work with Alexa directly if you have a zigbee enabled echo such as the 4th gen Amazon echo which are the first steps towards the hubless future I mentioned a few weeks ago. Alexa routines aren't quite there yet though and if you're looking for a smartthings security system then Ajax has everything you need and with a hub that costs way less than smartthings.
Thirdly, existing smartthings customers now have a choice of 3rd party
Smartthings motion sensors, smartthings multipurpose sensors, smartthings water leak sensors, and smartthings smart buttons at a time when there is no Samsung smartthings stock. There is now no reason to buy anything from Samsung directly and this will inevitably bring their platform to an end as their smart home divison no longer have a source of income, it's only a matter of time.
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You're NOT wrong 😉
Zigbee and Amazon and Smartthings are part of CHIP which will all be making a new zigbee standard that will not be backward compatible with current zigbee systems. Do we know if this new Echo has this standard built in?
And of course I am going to mention Home Assistant which with a zigbee dongle at a fraction of the price of most hubs can already connect all zigbee devices including Smartthings and HUE devices without the Smartthings/Philips HUE hubs. Not to mention its been clear that Samsung is getting out of the Smartthings Hub business.
I love the content, but any promotion for Zigbee products without mentioning CHIP making all of it obsolete is maybe a disservice. Do you have a video explaining why we should continue to invest in the current Zigbee platform?
No, I have a video specifically saying that zigbee is obsolete. 🤣 I think I am probably the reason you know of its upcoming obsolescence because I was the first person to say it. I also ended the video by saying that zigbee has at least a year to go and that even once the time is up the zigbee stuff will still work on Amazon's echo devices for a long time to come. th-cam.com/video/QMeBZD5V970/w-d-xo.html
Something doesn’t compute: Smartthings motion sensor 22€, Tuya motion sensor £24. Why I should buy the latter one. Same thing with the buttons. Smarttings 14€ Tuya £20.
not even a minute in and we've already had an "ohhh the zigbee"
Ooohh
Perfection
I know. And here, I thought he didn't like Zigbee because it was extraneous?
I know I don't like Zigbee. Or, Zwave for that matter. I made the choice to go with Homekit because, well we all have iPhones in this house and, I've acquired a lot of Homekit compatible devices. But, there are some things I'd like to add an the only ways I can find are either seriously too expensive from a cost benefit standpoint, or I have to add a Zigbee hub which I really, really don't want to do. Things are complicated enough already.
I still struggle to wrap my mind around some of this. Can't imagine what a non-tech, normal consumer type must have to go through.
that the way it should haha
Ooh the zigbee
Oooohhh
the zigbeeee
Videos that have to be watched at least twice ... the first time for the shits and giggles, the second time for the info! Well done Paul ... lots of effort obviously went into this and you are a mad mad bugger! 🤣
If there only was a free open source software you could run on something small, like a raspberry that could use Tuya local.
Oh well... Guess we have to wait for that to happen then :-D
😂 "HOME ASSISTANT!... HOOOOOOOME ASSISTANT!!"
@@paulhibbert I thought he was talking about OpenHAB. what is this home assistant that you talk of? :)
"Is this how you buy things?".. F-ing killed me 💀
If my internet goes down for three days and I can't work at least I can do the zigbee,... oh the zigbee is still working 😂
Surely if the unicorn is pooping out a bulb, it would be 'Hello brightness my old friend'........
The brightness of the bulb can't illuminate the darkness of the situation.
@@paulhibbert Good save
@@paulhibbert you just don’t want to do another cover 😂
Strange neither device is listed on their website as compatible with the echo hub models. Might be worth feeding back to them to update this. Glad to see you’ve validated it. Would love to see a video detailing a full range of devices that all work with only the Alexa hub. I’m a noob to the smart home scene and loving your videos, but still finding it slightly confusing to know what will work only with an echo 4th gen via (oh the) zigbee
That's the question I'm here to check, on their website it doesn't reference other ZigBee hubs.. I have a hue hub, and an echo 2020, and wanted to check if there was any limitations to just using these.
This is one of my favorite channels. Thanks Paul for being awesome!
Happy Saturday Paul. Dont get me wrong, I love watching your videos - you are very entertaining!
But...please stop with the constant "I was right I was right Smartthings is dead" ..Its clearly not when it has a rules engine that works well with zigbee devices, like...buttons....unlike Alexa or Tuya
All I can think of when you say Ajax is toilet bleach 🤣
Interesting range they have there, will get some to play with.
Nice & cheap products, so to but they're stuff you don't need to be particularly flush.......
Will be very nice if you include links to Amazon Germany. So far, you refer to the US and UK only, which is fantastic, but you have many, many followers/ fans in the rest of Europe 💪🏽
Those Ajax Online Zigbee sensors are nice but kind of expensive compared to other brands. Look at Sonoff and Xiaomi Mijia. Also Zigbee 3.0 but way way way cheaper
Yes But Mijia only work with their own stuff, I bought their hub and 2 buttons thinking I could use them with SmartLife or Alexa but no, so now they are collecting dust.
Hey Paul just wondering if Ajax products work in the US or are they strictly a UK product? Keep up the great work.
I use tuya stuff with smartlife app - my favourite smartlife routine - If the yard sensor light detects a human after midnight - turn on all the backyard and frontyard lights and turn the irrigation system on (which switches on x6 impact sprinklers to hammer whoever is in my yard with water lols) The lights coming on also triggers the motion security camera
That's amazing hahaha
To find out in the morning that it was only a cat after all...
***human*** detection
Great video! Great news! How soon do you think these will be available for purchase in the US?
Whilst that is really good and a step in the right direction. Until these devices and hubs allow the use of complex web core based routines and automations, Smartthings and the likes of Hubitat etc are not dead. Great for the average Joe who just want basic automations though. 👍
Unless you use something such as Home Assistant which can perform complex automations via Node-RED, then this really is a game changer.
I actually burst out laughing every time with the Ooooh the zigbee... it's like your catchphrase now. Anyway, great video as always Paul. Will be looking into getting some of this setup
The only thing wrong is when you say these are cheap.
Aqara zigbee sensors (ex: door and temp) are cheaper and work wonders in a HA setup (don't really know how their hub works).
Bring back Nisha and make her interact / setup something from scratch to see how a "regular"(?) person thinks about it or her honest opinion on living with a home automation n3rd 😂
Hey that's good to hear, I coincidentally just ordered some aqara stuff yesterday and I use HA. Couldn't seem to find any straightforward info online about whether they'd work but I figured it wouldn't hurt to order some and see what happens
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Paul, you got my attention!! I couldn't help but notice how quickly the devices responded in your demonstration, is that how fast they always respond? My Smartthings sometimes is fast, responding in a 1 or 2 seconds about 25% of the time, most of the time there is a 3 to 5 second delay, and maybe 10% of the time it seems to take up to 10 seconds to get a response, which is obviously due to internet latency. While I sort of can anticipate that latency and won't keep hammering the control button, my wife will go nuts on it and keep pushing it if it doesn't respond right away, which drives ME nuts. I will definitely check out Ajax, thanks for the great video as always! BR Jim
Great video as always 😀 this will another thing that paul hibbert made me buy , Silly question 🙋🏻♀️ what did you used as part of the routine to turn on your nivida shield was it just the sensor ?
Not sure if there is a more straightforward way, but I am using a Broadlink RM pro to send a remote signal, and I have an FLIRC USB IR receiver plugged into the Nvidia shield. The Flirc is super cheap and really opens up what you can do with the nvidia shield with Alexa. Check this out: th-cam.com/video/mjDMfY348rU/w-d-xo.html
@@paulhibbert thank you 🙏 ☺️
The thing I loved about smartthings was that once accounts were joined all the devices I added would be announced to the smartthing app on my wifes phone. My wife hates using voice assistants and I don't want to folk out for dedicated dashboard yet so it was the best option. Now I am seeing more and more devices which used to support it dropping off :-(
25£ isn't cheap for a ZigBee motion sensor when you can get them at IKEA for half that price
or Aqara from Aliexpress for 10Euros
May be, but ikea zigbee devices do not comply with the echos zigbee hubs
@@Sheepy007 thats problem is amazon
@@Sheepy007 best is home assistant and smartthings not amazon alexa and any more hubs
I wish these would integrate into the Eufy systems. They are built by Anker who’s brilliant at so many things but they are still pretty siloed in their current product range.
Keep up the great work... how to change the smart home! Oooh the Zigby!
You're just the boss my friend.
Good information with a comedy twist in the middle 😂
Congratulations from Portugal 😎
You want cheap?
Sonoff!
SNZB-01 Wireless switch (button): £10.99
SNZB-02 Temp/Humidity sensor: £11.99
SNZB-03 Motion sensor: £13.99
SNZB-04 Door/window sensor: £11.99
Sonoff Zigbee Hub: £20.99 (might be dumb as a brick - I use the sensors with smartthings)
Sure, the motion sensor has a 90 second timeout after detecting motion and it's all fairly cheap looking, but if you're looking to put in enough sensors to actually figure out who's broken in and where to send your Amazon attack drone, you can kit out a 3 bed house for under £100
Everything but the switch should fully work with Smartthings, and mostly work with an Echo
Out of curiosity, I did check what a button would cost from them. Being in US, this $20 USD button became $60 USD thanks to customs and shipping 😬.
Now checking amazon for maybe a third party seller.
Either way, great video as always Paul 👌🏾
Since you're in the US the aqara button is available on Amazon for ~18 and they seem to always have at least 10% off coupons for them.
Paul - I have the noobiest of noob questions for you. The main reason I was eyeing the Hubitat hub was for its ability to function without connecting to outside servers... Would you say the Ajax hub removes the need for a Hubitat one, or are there amazing things I'd be missing out on?
I have never believed that smart Home Subjects could be presented so funny and entertaining. Your are awesome.
I learn every time I watch your videos! You are Hilarious 😂! Keep up the great work! Ooooh the Zigbee!
Thanks dude! ❤️👍
Ooohh
I love the optimism of releasing a smart home connected alarm, to protect all you hold dear whilst being away from it. All of this at a time when (at least in the UK) leaving your hovel is punishable by being made to explain to Prince Philip why most of the atlas is no longer pink.
Without more complex automations, I see little value in an automated system. An example: when the system is armed at night, how does it behave? Can you set it up such that a person coming downstairs for a midnight snack can do that, and even open a window, without triggering alarms…. but someone prying open a window from outside does trigger the security system? Smartthings, for all its many shortcomings, can do this if you write decent automations between your motion sensors and contact sensors. AND it can turn on the kitchen lights for you along the way.
Corporate Greed and the Zigbee dance in one video, you are spoiling us Paul, nice gear though.
Amazon and Google limit what you can do with alarm systems. Its due to security concerns. They don’t want someone unsavoury being able to remotely arm/disarm your alarm (or more specifically, they don’t want to be responsible if that did happen).
You are SUPPOSED to be able to arm and disarm Tuya based systems with amazon but the functionality is broken. Funny it works fine for Blink and Ring. 🤔
@@paulhibbert That’s interesting. The only way I’d seen it working before was using a hacky series of workarounds and virtual switches. Every day’s a school day 👍🏻
Thanks Paul. Inspiring. Larry Graysons "shut that door.." is going to be triggered by my sonoff magnetic door sensor tomorrow 🤣. "Oh my god.." 😀.
Finally someone reviewed the zignito range, I have seen these for a while, but waited for a review as on the Ajax site, the button looks massive haha
I kitted my house out with Phillips Hue way before you started making recommendations Paul. However, as it begins failing I will replace it slowly with items you have recommended over the years because COORPERATE GREED!
Look into Home Assistant and a zigbee dongle. You can ditch the Hue Hub and use your bulbs.
❤️👍 Coooooooooooooooooporate greeeeeeeeeeeeed 🤣
@@scottbwright idk about hue, but the ikea stuff is kinda shit even with homeassistant / conbee 2. That may as well be conbee/deconz, but the aqara stuff never fails, while ikea stuff keeps disconnecting
@@RonnieLaugenI have never used the conbee2/deconz. I started off with the Sonoff cc2531 zigbee dongle which was about 4 bucks at the time and used ZHA. I was able to move all my zigbee devices over but had some intermittent connection issues. Recently I have moved to the Nortek HUSBZB-1 GoControl QuickStick Combo since it does Zigbee(ZHA) and Zwave(Zwave JS) so I could dump SmartThings alltogether (I had a zwave jasco dimmer switch with no neutral wire). It has been working brilliantly.
@@paulhibbert indeed......
Great video as normal, and it is such a shame this does not work with the WiFi stuff yet as we have stayed clear of "oh the zigbee" as ived tried not to have many hubs as this is what a wireless AP is for.
Bayonet bulbs are the standard bulb for new homes in Australia. So I'm happy that they make them...if they sell them in Australia one day.
The Bayonet Smart Bulbs are available under Mirabela brand right now. And they are cheap. Kmart Australia
@@MrRossBrisbane yep. They are very popular in Australia. All but 1 (veranda sensor light) in my house are bayonet. White Lenovo smart globes are 2 for $25 at JB HIFI.
Brilliant coloured is $15 at Bunnings.
I can see 'hello darkness my old friend' will be featured for a few videos, no doubt because of the amazing effort you put into it 👌🏼😜
Fun fact. In Danish lights bulbs are called pærer (which also means pears) and horse manure is called heste pærer. (heste being the word for horses) so basically unicorns leaving light bulb droppings are less weird for me than the notion that that should poop rainbows
3 videos in the last 3 weeks where your head explodes, that's gotta be a record 🏆 I will never unsubscribe.
Yes, yes, yes. You really need to keep the pressure on them to use routines, geo-fencing etc. They'd sell a whole load more stuff if you could attach the sensors to doors and automatically arm the place. Keep the faith mate, you do a STUNNING job!!
I find your channel very entertaining and informative, and you're brilliant at explaining products and their uses.
But one thing which I'm not clear about - and which I think your audience would benefit from knowing - is how you handle sponsored content/product placement offers on your channel. You tell viewers 'company X has sent me product Y' and you include links (possibly affiliate?) to sell the products you showcase. But to what extent are your 'reviews' sponsored? Are your views entirely your own, or are parts scripted?
I would like to know this too. It's not going to put me off watching. Paul is way too entertaining for that.
If you have watched Paul for as long as I have, you will know that he's never shy of saying something sucks, if it sucks, even if it's a sponsored video. He has also addressed this issue in the past, explaining that his views are entirely his own. I trust him.
Great video Paul. One Fitty k subs around the corner. Keep it coming!
Informative, Entertaining and hilarious !! keep it up, awesome watching Paul!
Another entertaining video. Well done. However, can you confirm if the hub maintains control of the Zigbee devices when the internet is removed AND after power is lost and subsequently restored, but internet remains offline? Sorry if this was answered, but I didn't hear you mention that in the video and I didn't see anything about it in the comments. This is in fact, not the first hub to maintain control of Zigbee devices when there is no internet. Wink introduced that feature 4 years ago. Xiaomi Aqara and Mijia HomeKit compatible hubs are also both capable of controlling devices via HomeKit when internet is cut off. However the Wink and Mijia hubs will lose this capability if there is an interruption in power, but the internet is still unavailable when the power is restored.
The Xiaomi Aqara does not lose control of devices when there's no internet and power interruptions don't affect it. Once power is restore, it does not have to reach out to their servers for all their devices to continue working from HomeKit and of course buttons and switches will still work to control devices. and best of all, they're not gigantic and fugly like the Tuya devices in this video.
25 quid for a four button Zigbee remote? That does not fall into the ‘Cheap as chips’ bracket - possibly ‘Corporate greed’!
Hi Paul. I have never seen you review Sonoff products, unless I’m a bit slow, deaf and blind 🤣. That said, here in South Africa they rule the market with their wide range of products and options for wifi, RF and Zigbee. Their wall switches are much cheaper than a flick button also, so I am a bit perplexed by your flick button choice, unless the market is different in the UK.
Amazon Alexa is the best for home automation, it has the most skills.
Also, Google can't add a device to more than 1 room or group; example: kitchen and family room are adjacent to each other and I want the lights in both room to turn
off if I say all, as well as independently turning off either room.
Alexa is inexpensive so I bought 8 to equip every room with Amazon Alexa for voice control so that I can just ask 'turn off the lights' and the echo in that room
knows to turn off those lights and not other lights in the house.
Google app's fonts are really really really tiny for my old eyes.
All 8 of my Amazon Echo devices have a clock... very convenient to tell the time or see a timer's countdown.
or better sound, I have a few of my Amazon Echo dot 3 with clock output the sound via its 3.5mm headphone jack to my Denon HEOS speakers.
"What's wrong with it?" For me the main thing is that Ajax isn't available in the US. My husband hates listening to me grumble about $%@#! SmartThings but I doubt I can persuade him to move to the UK to get away from them.
Their range looks remarkably like the Linkind stuff I bought a couple of weeks ago off Amazon. They also work with ST or their native hub and all the sensors, bulbs, etc. are controllable by Alexa. (Except the buttons; like the Ajax, they don't yet work natively with anything but their own hub.) I don't own an Echo with built-in hub, so I can't speak to that, but it's Zigbee 3.0 so I would think it would work.
ST is retiring my ADT co-branded hub and so I needed some sensors, etc. to replace the ADT ones and Linkind was so cheap I thought it was worth a go. I bought their "Security Starter Kit" for $65US, that comes with the hub (which contains the siren), 2 door/window sensors, a PIR motion detector, and a keypad. (One nice thing about the keypad is that enables you to set a PIN and then you can arm/disarm the system verbally through Alexa.) They also offer a "Home Security Easy Access Kit" for $50US that has the same equipment but swaps out the keypad for a fob. So far, it's all been working well whether through their native hub/app or ST.
I have no relationship with them, I'm just really pleased I bought something cheap that works.
Another great video Paul! I think I'll now wait for Amazon to reduce their price of the Echo 4th gen with integrated hub and the slowly wait for all my Hue gear to die off :)
Why would I spend 25 pounds (+/- US$ 30) on a Zigbee motion sensor from Ajax when I can also buy a Zigbee motion sensor from Ikea for $10? All Ikea smarthome (tradfrei) products are also true zigbee 3.0 devices and can be used with all zigbee hubs, including the Hue one.. The only product from Ikea that I don't really like is limited hub as it can only support 50 zigbee devices. You can of course add multiple hubs, but each hub has its own zigbee network and that is when things usually turns south..
So would you say the Zignito hub is the one to buy for zigbee products if I dont think I need a hubitat? Iv been building my smart home around advice solely based from this channel so keep up the great work!
Hello Paul I have been using the smart bulbs from tescos with smart home and alexa and routines they are great also have a smart plug adapter they were about £10 each oh and have a PIR about the same price too. Made the PIR turn the TV off if no one in the room for over an hour. There is a extension lead too and camera. Never expected this in tesco. Oh there is a remote too but not bought that yet. 😔
Oh and no hub needed. Great videos.
Motters 👍🏻👍🏻
Oh Paul, why didn't you release this video last weekend? I only bloody bought the Smartthings Hub and opted against the Ajax hub. Damn you, and damn virgin media for going down! And damn Flic for not recognising us Brits are still in Europe just not the EU. Anyways Happy International Happiness Day, thanks for being me happiness on a Saturday 🙂👍
Hi Paul, with the hub, does it work with th Smartthings hub, or is it only the items that you load on it that will work off line? Great video
Love it all, Paul! Looking at Patreon for you today. Love to support good info with great delivery! Also, if you got your wife to say something was 'the best', then she's clearly the one punching up! Finally, if you froze piss, you could portion it into pieces. Ooohh the Zigbee!
Haha, thanks so much man. I now know how to portion up piss!!
Or just piss into a bunch of glasses. Then once again have to tell the missus, that Paul Herbert made me do it.😬😳
I will be getting some of these zigbee sensors from Ajax to add to my hubitat #sharethelove
Your videos are brilliant 😁
Smartthings with Edge and LOCAL drivers/automations is moving Smartthings to a new level. Now Tuya need to increase this, or users need to install third party systems for local automations.
Interesting watch. I’m a ST user however other than the starter kit I have not bought anything else. The xiaomi buttons and sensors are CHEAP (£6 and £8 each) and with a device handler work seamlessly. IKEA bulbs also fit the bill.
Interesting with the B22 fitting on the bulbs though.
With ST I can set routines of ‘if no motion for 30 seconds, switch off...x,y,z’ is Alexa now this capable. I remember when alexa routines werent even a thing!!
Nice as a starter kit but are very expensive compared .. would say the zigbee hub is a good idea for local Tuya but bulbs .. sensors are very over priced compared to other zigbee 3.0 devices in the same range. Great video as always though Paul. Thanks for the information.
Sometimes I haven't got a clue what you're on about but as soon as you say it's a piece of piss I no longer worry 😄 love these videos 👍
I don't think SmartThings software is dying. Samsung are still keeping Bixby alive, so I think SmartThings will stay a bit longer.
It is great how Zigbee has become what it should have been at the start. Compatible with each other.
@Elmsy Agreed. Yet Bixby is still alive. :)
Samsung has already discontinued selling their Smartthings Hub. They are also part of the CHIP group which is developing a whole new Zigbee standard along with Amazon, HUE, and many others that is not backward compatible with current Zigbee standards. While these changes might take an unreasonable amount of time to implement, it's something to think about when investing in hubs and standards for home automation.
@@scottbwright Aeotec make the hub now. SmartThings really always was primarily the software, even before Samsung bought them out :)
@@EsotericArctos My main concern when a company like Samsung drops their revenue stream from hardware, they have to make up for that revenue with their shareholders. How long will they maintain a free software platform before trying to monetize it for profits which is usually collecting useful information from customers and selling it OR requiring subscription based use. As Paul says: CORPORATE GREEEED!
Another great vid 😊👍🏼
Ready? Home Assistant Home Assistant Home Assistant 😄 do they ?
This has probably been mentioned already, but for remote notifications, you're not going to get those if your internet is down. Unless you set up a fallover router with cellular dial out. (regardless of app or VPN tunnelling)
Bayonet bulbs!!!! I’ll take a look at these as I was considering ordering some Meross ones this week as I’ve been really impressed with their smart plugs
Would be good to see what Radio Frequency Interference all this tech causes in your house. A lot of these things cause have very poor RF shielding. Get an AM radio and you will hear the RFI when you get close to the smart gadget.
Great video Paul, as usual. I just see this as adding to the already vast universe of devices that are compatible with SmartThings. Also, as you so aptly stated, Amazon has a long way to go to match the sophistication of the routines and automations already available in SmartThings and other hubs. Additionally, not having geofence capability is a huge drawback in my opinion. And lastly, a $29 US plus $35 shipping for the contact or the motion sensor, isn’t exactly affordable. All this said, I can definitely see myself overlooking the cost to gain the ability to operate these devices when the Internet goes down. That would certainly be a mark in the plus column.
KKMoon looks like a similar hub on Amazon US is states WIFI and Zigbee what do you think? *Wide Compatibility: Not only Tuya WiFi products, but also ZigBee 3.0 smart products are compatible with the ZigBee gateway hub, allowing you to customize your systems depending on your individual needs and security requirements.
Not available in the USA?! :(
Just updated my BMW and wow, it now has Alexa! So many possibilities!
I wouldn't boast about owning a BMW 🤣🤣🤣
It's a nice car. When I mentioned I'd updated it I meant the software in the car (just for clarity). It links to my main Amazon account so voice commands to the house should be no problem when driving. I'm thinking about 'Alexa, I'm on my way home' for routines - feels like there should be loads of possibilities.
Do the indicators work after the upgrade 😀😀😀
@@Kyle-Russell Yes, all seems fine. Only updated the software yesterday but seems fine. third or fourth update I've done. I really like the idea of setting up routines for the house that I can trigger from the car. Feels much better than simple geo-fencing. Looking forward to seeing what it can do.
@@Anthony-ym6iz you could do this with Alexa on your phone already.
When you talk about cheap Zigbee sensors/button, how do these compare with the SONOFF for ease of install with the Smartthings platform. The button SNZB-01 is currently around £9 on eBay. Is that cheaper than chips? 🤷🏻♂️
Not tried them in honesty. I went off sonoff when they am started charging for ifttt.
@@paulhibbert just today, I found that the SONOFF ZigBee button can be used as a trigger on IFTTT, but Tuya's ZigBee buttons can't =(
Home assistant, Xiaomi sensors and sonoff switches can work on LAN
"Oh the Zigbee!" Now that thing is a game changer :-O something for me to invest in one day :-D
Ooohh
Good to see that you started to like the Zigbee now :)
Do you know where to buy this in Australia?
I wish I knew this before I got the hubitat for a fraction of the cost
25 pounds for a zigbee door sensor is not cheap at all. At the very best, it’s the average market price. Also, I don’t think these products are available outside of the uk, without a hefty shipping charge and import duty.
That's great. Where is it available? Also, does it have a useful automation system like webcore? If not, it's useless. The ridiculously simplistic automations of Echo and Smart Life are fine for device control but spectacularly useless for complex automation.
WARNING! The hub only works offline with Zigbee-devices, NOT WIFI devices from Tuya!!.... and any Tuya Zigbee-hub available through AliExpress (a LOT cheaper than ordering in the UK!) works offline with Zigbee products (without internet connection). The only difference between the two is the "Security gateway" option in the Ajax device.
Wish it also worked with ZWAVE like SmartThings, but love the availability of sensors that work with ST’s, since their sensors have disappeared!
They are Just being made by aotech now instead.
This is just one of the many tuya based companies and these products are actually for a long time on the market. I have a few tuya zigbee devices for some time but never did the No Internet test. Might give it a try after work today now that you made me curious.
Yes, the tuya platform has been improving in lots of key areas, the lack of a requirement for Internet is a recent development 😊
I have an ADT by SmartThings hub. I have a PILE of proprietary motion, smoke, and door sensors that only work with this hub. Does anyone have ANY idea what port(s) the ST hub uses to do updates? I could block those ports, and keep using the ADT/ST sensors with,.... home assistant. Any ideas, Paul?
Should I buy a Ajax hub instead of hubitat Paul?
Great video, finally some decent sensors for my Smartthings hub. Even though echo has some fantastic automation settings I think Smarthings still has some automations than echo cant do yet, like virtually switches, so together you can do so so much, u light stupid Google Home no existing home automation.
You are aware Samsung is getting out of the home automation hardware business. They have already stopped selling their hub.
Will they be available in the US?
My big question is, will it work with existing tuya hubs? I have the small WiFi one from Zemismart...
Does your camera do 4k30? the 25fps is painful on the eyes :( You need to make a video on the xioami magic cube, something you can shale rotate or even throw in there air how much fun could you have making a video on that XD
I have 2 on the Xiaomi Chinese server and one on the Aqara Chinese server... if only Xiaomi's connection were to be more stable, I would not have tried the Global vers (with less devices, no Display Speaker, no customizable alarm tones), and now almost fully on Tuya....
If only Tuya hub could link with the Magic cube 😍
I wish Eufy had some integration I kinda want their stuff but also realize it's a closed system
Eufy has some integration with Alexa routines and a lot less integration with everything else from what I can tell. I just installed their battery 2k doorbell and some of the security system (door sensors and keypad). I probably won't be getting their motion sensors though.
I have virtually no idea of what you are talking about half the time but I do enjoy watching.
Morning paul I have just watch you latest vid and feel the need to point out some that has effected me on a personal level. !!!! Firstly the unicorn !!!! If these mythical creatures where still in existence they would be the size of a normal/ regular sized horse correct??? Where I live we have several stables locally which means horse pass my door all do and end to pop as the walk. Saying this means I see the size of horse dropping on a regular basis.( not something I brag about) lol. The average size of shall we same horse ploppy dropy is the size of my first (and I have big hands🤔). So return to the start of this complaint a unicorn would have no problem passing a light build of normal size and dimensions!!!! Get your facts right mr!!!!!! Anyway hope this makes you smile and laugh buddy great vid and the water sensors would be great for anyone who runs a fish tank like my self there defo on my next list keep up the great vids mate 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😂
😂 Fair point BUT, have you seen what the bayonet part of the bulb looks like??
Neesha does NOT like the unicorn sketch. She feels sorry for the unicorn! 😂🦄
@@paulhibbert ye true paul there is that but I’m shore with that part of the bulb being much smaller it would pass easily 🤣🤣😂😂 abs bless her feeling sorry for a fictional character lol “ no imaginary unicorns were harmed in this video!!!!!” lol
I wonder what the 'Get your unicorns facts right Mr' character would look like.......
@@garethjones5068 my votes for a leprechaun
Great video! Lots of interesting info and a wonderful balance between geekiness and humour. You've got yourself a new Subscriber, keep up your innovative approach 👍
Ps. "You can't portion piss, it's not a cake" made me spray hot tea 😂😂😂
I wish we could get that here in the US....
I will definitely be buying the Philips Hue module. They designed that for the American market, where replacing a "real" light switch with a battery powered internet button decreases the value of your home and makes all your guests hate you.
Paul...I have Philips hue lights... Correct me if I'm wrong...if I get new Alexa ZigBee speaker...my bulbs will be still usable work these new switches from Ajax?..
Or could I just get a zignito hub and do away with Philips hub?
Can I put the button on the wall to bypass the wall-switch to turn on the lamp?
Scoresheet great video Paul! I would love to you more than once a week lol.
Can you talk about or link what you use when you wire your light switches on, and then put a plate over it, then the button?
I’d like to do this, but not sure what you are using to do so.
Im guessing google smart home stuff still doesnt work locally