I guarantee that the whole reason why these cars are for sale in the 1st place, is because the owner beforehand got fed up with spending a never ending amount of cash keeping the heap on the road.
Iv got a range rover of the same year and they are pretty much the same as the disco...my air suspension is getting faults and it's also worth mentioning the gearboxes are weak,when these fail get ready for a nice bill
Check the AWD on the XC90, the splines in the transfer box tend to eat themselves so it's a whole new unit now as the decent 2nd hand ones have been snapped up and you can't buy the splined shaft on its own, communication between the ECU and the gearbox can be a bit dodgy too as water has a tendency to get in to the wiring plugs and the computers.
Alexander O'Shaughnessy Nope, not too many places for off-roading in my country. We did drive through a flash flood though, the ground clearance is pretty decent
@@scoopermg8226 i said the VOLVO and the AUDI are reliable because they are diesels i know somebody who ones a diesel q7 and i own a diesel volvo xc90 never had problems the landrover can have suslension problems
Joshua Horrocks this noobs know nothing they get the car for a day then they google some stuff and boom they are talking like experts. For 7k u can buy second gen xc90 with 3.2 liter engine and Man that car is reliable u can put all miles u want without any problems just a regular service although the fuel consumption is not that fancy to be honest
to those who thinks the camera quality is bad, i dont think that's the camera's fault, but rather the color correction is all wrong and overstyled, it feels muted and over exposure at the same time
Do not buy any land rover with air suspension. Incredibly stupid to suggest to get it as it will leak at some point and then again and again and again. If you do buy one then when it leaks swap for coils as it's much more reliable.
Time Alone My Sport SC hasn’t had a single issue (let alone air suspension related) in the past two years of having it and 80k miles, old range rovers are notorious for bad air suspension, anything from 2011 or later is pretty trouble free though
İ don’t agree. İf you maintain well and unless it’s not a “before 2007” non upgraded model; Disco 3 is fabulous! including air suspension. Air susp. Problems are cheap to fix. Be aware of early models like 2004-06. After 2007 my, most of the parts are upgraded.
My land rover range rover is suffering with air suspension,I agree with land rover and reliability shouldn't be in the same sentence...that said..what a motor
Totally disagree, Discovery definitely better than Volvo and Audi, having owned one, with no faults, awesome off road and no break downs. Audi and Volvo forums are full of unhappy owners.
There is a few cheap Q7´s available round here, but these are kind of cars where you choose between horrible fuel consumption or diesel tax. And diesel tax for Q7 is 1136€/year. =/
We had a disco 3 for 9 years....and yes it did have some problems.... But it rode like a rolls Royce and was just a calming place to be..no wonder we kept it for ages..... Also 30mpg is a bit optimistic....fyi
Do not be under any delusions as to just how high the running costs of old, large, SUV's like these can be. Lots on the market where the second or third owners couldn't really afford to run them and they are full of faults. But even if they have been maintained impeccably, they can still hit you with a massive bill.
The disco 3 suffers with electronic problems mostly I wouldn’t be put off too much they are so comfortable and amazing to drive all cars have problems I got warned from buying mine and in the 3 years I’ve had it not a thing go wrong and bare in mind it has 226000 miles on it now and the engine sounds smoother than or as smooth as a 2 year old car mines an 2005 great truck but you need to keep them maintained as for the others also great cars love Audi and Volvo my self but I always thought Volvo are a bit behind on the inside you can get a 2009 for example and it looks like it was make in 2000 on the inside that my opinion anyway
Scandalous Fifth Gear would recommend such horrendous money pits. Parts on the Volvo are expensive though pale in comparison to the absolute money pits and reliability disaster that are the Q7 and the Disco 3.
I realise there is a somewhat limited amount of vehicles that can be shown, but, less than a handful is not that helpful. Perhaps you could do several parts, thereby covering a greater number. ?
The xc90 3.2 o v8 si tienes buenas herramientas, un scanner, y al menos un nivel básico de mecánica. Exelente para la familia. No lo lleves al concesionario, te dejará en la quiebra a menos de que ganes mucho dinero.
I have owned 6 xc90's and i have to say, the d5 is a great engine but only does 9mpg if the swirl flaps are gone or the injectors are even slighlty damaged, the xc90 has the BEST 3rd row seats you can fit 7 6ft adults in one The q7 is great but 3rd row seating is poor but watch out for the 4.2 v8 petrol you will spend 4 days changing a timing chain or cam belt. The disco is great-expect a buggered gearbox and fragile electronics, it is poorly designed and the 3rd row seating is apalling-the boot space is also lack luster with all 7 seats compared to the q7 and especially the xc90
This show consistently gives the worst consumer advice possible. We've got channel 5 viewers sitting at home thinking a used Q7 is a good buy..even the touareg, which is the exact same car, is a terrible purchase at half the price! Mental
I think any component that has motor can fail, like steering pump, alternator, suspension pump, if motor has brushes, they wear and it becomes dusty inside. Also dust will enter the motor, especially if it's under the car exposed to air. Overheating during the years makes the wiring in the motor cause shorts. Even the motor starter has solenoid and brushes. Any component that has rubber gasket which becomes old after a few years needs inspection. Thus there are lots of failure points?
She just choosed the only one of three which ..ISN'T "four by four" as she said, but instead is some kind of PART-time awd and is really useless in offroad or even slippery conditions 😂😂.. haldex can't provide permanent awd and not part time bias on it (supercars which use this system, got it on the FRONT axle, which doesn't really matters after launching)
People says that The discovery's air suspension is crap, it's also keep breaking down, and it's depreciating a lot. The volvo is reliable or some people say that Volvo _isn't_ reliable because it keeps breaking down and the parts are expensive. The Audi is too big and it's a "reliability disaster". And Some people suggest that : Just buy a _Toyota_ Land Cruiser or a Lexus because they are reliable and holds the value really good
We paid 90 grand for our Toyota Prado Grande of the highest spec with every option second hand after it had been used for 2 months. The previous owner was someone big up in Toyota so it also has factory options like a bigger screen sat nav and heated seats that at the time were unavailable to buy in this car or in any other car (x5 q7 GLS xc90) none of them had that stuff. Now these ones are worth fuck all and ours despite it being a late 03 model could easily be sold for 20k upwards
As long it's not a petrol version the xc90 is built to last. If maintained regularly. The Audi is quite reliable with the petrol v8 or the diesel v6. But only without all the gimmicks making him nice like air suspension which are a threat to your wallet. But marking up any Discovery as a good choice? Holy shit. This car is one of the worst vehicles i ever worked on with numerous problems even with low mileage. My personal advise for anyone is stay away as far as you can from the Land Rovers. The Audis are good if you can work on them yourself but the best of the trio is the Volvo. A Xc90 from up to 06 in good condition is a no brainer
It’s wise to go with the Volvo.... forgive me, but the Disco and the Q7 are not the most reliable (this is my opinion, your obviously entitled to your opinion)
I don't understand why they picked 1st gen xc90 when u can buy 2nd gen with 3.2 liter engine with £7k which is the most reliable car ever P.S take that s60R rims off they look silly
Agnostic human Evet burada böyle maalesef:)Adamlarda sıfırı 60.000 pound zaten, dolayısıyla ortalama %10 u gibi. Bu arada 7000 pound biraz abartılı, 2007 model temizleri 10-12 k civarı
You know what else you can get for under £7k? A Decent camera.
The Red Rocket X PCIe Extension Card
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Your my m8 are fucking right
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the video is almost 10 years old. get some facts.
Why does all their videos look like their from te 90s?
They use this weird vignet effect and darker color grading. Very odd.
TheSpector yeah I agree its really strange
För att du e svensk 😉
Joseph Shamon heja Sverige😉
That’s so true
XC90 on V70R rims, wtf
hey it looks good
"All diesels" but the 2.5T Volvo is a petrol, the D5 is the diesel version.....
Yes that is a 2.5L turbo petroil
They probably couldn't get one at the time of recording for whatever reason
@@tomevans1251 yes, a diesel was standard i think
Also they said the Audi's a 3.0L diesel; says 4.2 on the back!
@@mattrussell250
their current videos look like the ones the produced back in 2011
Totally agree man
You need a big set of plums to buy a £7k disco 💸
Or residual brain damage..
It's an endless money pit...
Is any of these SUVs not a money pit?
@@mipmipmipmipmip fair point! JLR in particular can have some serious mechanical issues...
I guarantee that the whole reason why these cars are for sale in the 1st place, is because the owner beforehand got fed up with spending a never ending amount of cash keeping the heap on the road.
Affordable SUVs..... _until they inevitably go wrong._
Affordable SUV is an oxymoron!
Buy warranty
What's could possibly go wrong with them? Especially the Disco!! :)
@@CM.243 actually discos are bullet proof. It's the range rovers that usually have the trouble
Alrighty....Snore off. All cars cost money:
Learn some basics and that "garage bill" becomes quite acceptable.
My mum had a silver 2003 XC90, and then a black 2008 4.2TDI Q7 - kept it for a solid 8 years, got some major childhood throwbacks 😂
Great to see that Fifth Gear still puts out videos.
Good to see one of favourite shows from earlier to be active nowadays 👏🏼🤩
Absolutely 👏
that Audi design is timeless . still looks good right now
Besides got the best cabin design of all 3
True. We got one of the last made Q7s of that gen, and it’s amazing!
Somebody got paid by Volvo.
Q7 is head and shoulders above them other 2 pretender6
Iv got a range rover of the same year and they are pretty much the same as the disco...my air suspension is getting faults and it's also worth mentioning the gearboxes are weak,when these fail get ready for a nice bill
Check the AWD on the XC90, the splines in the transfer box tend to eat themselves so it's a whole new unit now as the decent 2nd hand ones have been snapped up and you can't buy the splined shaft on its own, communication between the ECU and the gearbox can be a bit dodgy too as water has a tendency to get in to the wiring plugs and the computers.
A disco with 100,000 miles is going to cost a fortune in repairs. About as reliable as a dead dog.
We had a 04 xc90, upgrade to a 2013 last October and this October we are planning to get a 2017 this October, amazing vehicles.
Alexander O'Shaughnessy The new generation Volvos are really nice, my family's just got a new XC60 T8 Inscription. We upgraded from a 2011 S80.
@@brandonczw nice, have you guys had it off road yet? It's amazing
Alexander O'Shaughnessy Nope, not too many places for off-roading in my country. We did drive through a flash flood though, the ground clearance is pretty decent
@@brandonczw it is, does the xc60 have air suspension or just xc90
Alexander O'Shaughnessy Ours came equipped with air suspension as part of the T8 Inscription Plus trim. Every other trim gets regular suspension
A lot of people here complain about the camera. But for me i call it *CLASSIC*
I missed you fifth gear !!!
Shocked the BMW X5 didnt make the list, can pick them up for around £7k, better than the Disco for sure. Volve is a great pick
So Funny hearing a British person say discovery is a favourite of "car thieves".lol..you never hear such honesty on a car show.
Which channel is this show on ?
I need full episods
Affordable SUVs ? Bottomless moneypits for under £7k would be the better title.
I own a 2.4 d5 and its not a money pit
Dont talk if you havent owned one of these
@@ziad123bakkich2 I don't need your permission to talk.
@@papavictorromeo5079 your a moron
The volvo is great and the audi because diesel
Moneypits indeed. Use your head and get something sensible. Land Rovers in particular are appallingly unreliable.
@@scoopermg8226 i said the VOLVO and the AUDI are reliable because they are diesels i know somebody who ones a diesel q7 and i own a diesel volvo xc90 never had problems the landrover can have suslension problems
Scotty Kilmer doesnt approve on all 3.
The Volvo is decent though
Still relatively expensive to maintain
Scotty kilmer doesn't know anything
Scotty kilmer knows Nothing about good cars
Boi 🤣🤣he admits that they are good IF everything is ok,but when stuff starts going south prepare for a financial nightmare.
really good info is fifth gear still on tv?
And not a single mention of reliability. There's a very good reason these cars are under 7k
Exactly. I can get a Vanquish for under £4k, but it’s been sat in the Mariana Trench for 10 years.
She does mention reliability for the Volvo at 2:09 but your point does still ring true. All are unreliable money pits
Joshua Horrocks this noobs know nothing they get the car for a day then they google some stuff and boom they are talking like experts. For 7k u can buy second gen xc90 with 3.2 liter engine and Man that car is reliable u can put all miles u want without any problems just a regular service although the fuel consumption is not that fancy to be honest
Land rover ? 😱a horror story on wheels, go for volvo
Classic top gear/fifth gear. Glorifying their crappy Rovers and Jags
lol best off road from them comfortable and 2.7 ford engine was tank discovery is only true off roader here
Lol I have the supercharged sport and it hasn’t given me a single problem or issue in the 2 years of owning it
@@mijajlobulatovic8829 the 2.7 is a Peugeot/Citroën Engine and it's utter garbage
@@kojotot3173 When do they glorify Rovers?
Am I in the market for SUV's under 7k? No. Did I still watch the whole video? You're damn right I did.
This show is now much better then the new top gear ..!!!!
wow Top Gear is THAT bad?!
@@majorgenerall i would still watch these cheapstake videos
to those who thinks the camera quality is bad, i dont think that's the camera's fault, but rather the color correction is all wrong and overstyled, it feels muted and over exposure at the same time
Do not buy any land rover with air suspension. Incredibly stupid to suggest to get it as it will leak at some point and then again and again and again. If you do buy one then when it leaks swap for coils as it's much more reliable.
Time Alone My Sport SC hasn’t had a single issue (let alone air suspension related) in the past two years of having it and 80k miles, old range rovers are notorious for bad air suspension, anything from 2011 or later is pretty trouble free though
İ don’t agree. İf you maintain well and unless it’s not a “before 2007” non upgraded model; Disco 3 is fabulous! including air suspension. Air susp. Problems are cheap to fix. Be aware of early models like 2004-06. After 2007 my, most of the parts are upgraded.
My land rover range rover is suffering with air suspension,I agree with land rover and reliability shouldn't be in the same sentence...that said..what a motor
Don't buy land rover no matter what
Totally disagree, Discovery definitely better than Volvo and Audi, having owned one, with no faults, awesome off road and no break downs. Audi and Volvo forums are full of unhappy owners.
There is a few cheap Q7´s available round here, but these are kind of cars where you choose between horrible fuel consumption or diesel tax. And diesel tax for Q7 is 1136€/year. =/
We had a disco 3 for 9 years....and yes it did have some problems....
But it rode like a rolls Royce and was just a calming place to be..no wonder we kept it for ages.....
Also 30mpg is a bit optimistic....fyi
Slightly off topic, but for some reason the XC90 makes @vbhenderson look like a very small person... A thing I did not notice with the other two.
Anyone else noticed the mil lamp on the q7?
You forgot one.... Land Cruiser 2006
I’m living in turkey and ı was shocked when ı saw the q7
That q7 is 175.000-200.000 turkish liras in turkey and that equals to 22.500-25.000 pounds
Ata Emre i'm living in Malaysia and a used Q7 costs about 100,000MYR, which is about £19,000
What about the BMW x5
As someone who used to work in a a Land rover service center . Do yourself a favour DO NOT BUY A USED LAND ROVER .
shay a So my family bought a used 2012 lr4 and so far after 2 years nothing has gone wrong.
@@lightbox8019 if you said 10 years and nothing has gone wrong I would say that's acceptable
None of the older defenders are reliable?
Do not be under any delusions as to just how high the running costs of old, large, SUV's like these can be. Lots on the market where the second or third owners couldn't really afford to run them and they are full of faults. But even if they have been maintained impeccably, they can still hit you with a massive bill.
The disco 3 suffers with electronic problems mostly I wouldn’t be put off too much they are so comfortable and amazing to drive all cars have problems I got warned from buying mine and in the 3 years I’ve had it not a thing go wrong and bare in mind it has 226000 miles on it now and the engine sounds smoother than or as smooth as a 2 year old car mines an 2005 great truck but you need to keep them maintained as for the others also great cars love Audi and Volvo my self but I always thought Volvo are a bit behind on the inside you can get a 2009 for example and it looks like it was make in 2000 on the inside that my opinion anyway
raise the seat, jeez
Scandalous Fifth Gear would recommend such horrendous money pits. Parts on the Volvo are expensive though pale in comparison to the absolute money pits and reliability disaster that are the Q7 and the Disco 3.
Not great cars if you travel to the ULEZ area in central London. Not ideal if you live in London if the said ULEZ expansion comes in 2 years
Who spotted the spider?
How is this Even a video? Just get the volvo, audi is to big and the Land rover will be worth about 1 tenth of its value in a week if it survives
In what world is any audi too big lmao
The Audi looks waaaaaaay better, looks much fresher and much more technological.
You've never owned a Volvo, have you? You also aren't aware of how strong the Discovery's residual values are.
@@Alan_Mac I've owned 2
6:11 for answer.
As chelsea 🚜 the Audi has no competition...
As 4x4 Disco its beast
As both together Volvo will do the job...simple
I realise there is a somewhat limited amount of vehicles that can be shown, but, less than a handful is not that helpful. Perhaps you could do several parts, thereby covering a greater number. ?
Why is nobody talking about the notorious 2.7 crankshaft failures?
So only for the Q7 you don't have to look out for know faults, she just mentioned basic maintenance.
Good
The xc90 3.2 o v8 si tienes buenas herramientas, un scanner, y al menos un nivel básico de mecánica.
Exelente para la familia.
No lo lleves al concesionario, te dejará en la quiebra a menos de que ganes mucho dinero.
OWH YES MAMA! Discovery 3
DESIL IS NO LONGER ALLOWED IN THE UK.
Landcruiser and lexus still holding its value
those are run down junkers
I have owned 6 xc90's and i have to say, the d5 is a great engine but only does 9mpg if the swirl flaps are gone or the injectors are even slighlty damaged, the xc90 has the BEST 3rd row seats you can fit 7 6ft adults in one
The q7 is great but 3rd row seating is poor but watch out for the 4.2 v8 petrol you will spend 4 days changing a timing chain or cam belt.
The disco is great-expect a buggered gearbox and fragile electronics, it is poorly designed and the 3rd row seating is apalling-the boot space is also lack luster with all 7 seats compared to the q7 and especially the xc90
Yea after seeing doug demuro CarMax range Rover warranty claim I'm gonna pass lol
This show consistently gives the worst consumer advice possible. We've got channel 5 viewers sitting at home thinking a used Q7 is a good buy..even the touareg, which is the exact same car, is a terrible purchase at half the price! Mental
Volvo is the safest!
but it looks shit
Land Rover, and 00’s Audi, No brainer get a Volvo, or even better, LX470
I guess you've never owned a Volvo. They are expensive to keep in good nick.
@@Alan_Mac Runs forever so. Your wrong
Alan Mac I drive V40 D4
LX470 is much pricier though
Yalok Iy Not really LX you just pay for the car and that’s it
Isn’t this the lady that told everyone an early 2000s 5 series was a good buy?
yeas
Q7 is now affordable to buy.. but think about expensive maintanence ;)
they are all rubish is there any cary you can buy with out faults please let me know
Marin Petroff not expensive to maintain, only problem is the steering pump fails. Ours has already
I think any component that has motor can fail, like steering pump, alternator, suspension pump, if motor has brushes, they wear and it becomes dusty inside. Also dust will enter the motor, especially if it's under the car exposed to air. Overheating during the years makes the wiring in the motor cause shorts.
Even the motor starter has solenoid and brushes. Any component that has rubber gasket which becomes old after a few years needs inspection.
Thus there are lots of failure points?
Volvo does not change in tax band with a change in just wheel size ever !! It's down to emissions.
Ha she forgot to mention that the crank breaks on those D3 diesels..... endless money pits - all british cars are as they age.
D 4s actually.
She just choosed the only one of three which ..ISN'T "four by four" as she said, but instead is some kind of PART-time awd and is really useless in offroad or even slippery conditions 😂😂.. haldex can't provide permanent awd and not part time bias on it (supercars which use this system, got it on the FRONT axle, which doesn't really matters after launching)
Yeah..pay 7000£ and pay another 4000/5000£ for parts that will fail really soon..no thanks..
People says that
The discovery's air suspension is crap, it's also keep breaking down, and it's depreciating a lot.
The volvo is reliable or some people say that Volvo _isn't_ reliable because it keeps breaking down and the parts are expensive.
The Audi is too big and it's a "reliability disaster".
And Some people suggest that :
Just buy a _Toyota_ Land Cruiser or a Lexus because they are reliable and holds the value really good
Toyota and Lexus holds the value really good? I'm not so sure.
I thought it was a old vid
NO Mention that these are the most unreliable suv s on the market, and the most costly to maintain:)
So they mentioned the xc90 2.4 diesel when on on the back 2.5 T something not right 😂
They tell you which engine is best, but the car they use is a petrol.
Leslie Chow they have an obsession with diesels but why
She made the right choice.
the 500th ooooo
not really tho
We paid 90 grand for our Toyota Prado Grande of the highest spec with every option second hand after it had been used for 2 months. The previous owner was someone big up in Toyota so it also has factory options like a bigger screen sat nav and heated seats that at the time were unavailable to buy in this car or in any other car (x5 q7 GLS xc90) none of them had that stuff. Now these ones are worth fuck all and ours despite it being a late 03 model could easily be sold for 20k upwards
Volvo all day 😍
I don't know how anyone can not own a vehicle like this, most Euro or Japanese cars cannot even fit three car seats in the back.
Struggle to find a q7 with 7k
It's all well and good buying one of these for £7k, but you'll spend that again fixing all of them
2.5T is not a diesel engine 🙄
They never mention the year of the vehicles it’s annoying
7K per year on maintenance costs.
Yes that is a fair assessment
Like from syria ....i own a volvo460gl..1993 nice car😨
Is Syria a safe country
This is an old video!!!
As long it's not a petrol version the xc90 is built to last. If maintained regularly. The Audi is quite reliable with the petrol v8 or the diesel v6. But only without all the gimmicks making him nice like air suspension which are a threat to your wallet. But marking up any Discovery as a good choice? Holy shit. This car is one of the worst vehicles i ever worked on with numerous problems even with low mileage. My personal advise for anyone is stay away as far as you can from the Land Rovers. The Audis are good if you can work on them yourself but the best of the trio is the Volvo. A Xc90 from up to 06 in good condition is a no brainer
The early xc90s have gearbox problems right?
Only those with 2.9l gas engines.
That Volvo is 2.5t and not a diesel?
2.5T not diesel. Gas.
Not even the models she was talking about,the Volvo was a petrol and the Audi a 4.2 TDI
Now £5k
Well I take the Rover.. LoL.. Why?
Because at moment of take real short cut to the jungle the Rover going to help you.
Not many people go the jungle parties.
It’s wise to go with the Volvo.... forgive me, but the Disco and the Q7 are not the most reliable (this is my opinion, your obviously entitled to your opinion)
Xc90.... Full time 4x4... Vbh needs t do more research
I don't understand why they picked 1st gen xc90 when u can buy 2nd gen with 3.2 liter engine with £7k which is the most reliable car ever
P.S take that s60R rims off they look silly
How old is this Video?!?!?! 🤔
Quite new
Why do you ask?
26 October 2018
20 May 2019
Land Rover for me every time, right now.. Currently own two. One quite old..
I got my XC90 for £1,990
You can't compare the Volvo or Land Rover with the Q7 in terms of quality and the gorgeous look of the car 😍
Dacia Duster please
Man, Vicki is getting old. I remember seeing Fifth Gear as a kid and she was so younger.
Geeth San that’s life bro
why they always picking the worst SUVs and Cars you can buy used 😂
Q7 any day.
7 k ? Wt. Turkey 120-150 k.
Agnostic human Evet burada böyle maalesef:)Adamlarda sıfırı 60.000 pound zaten, dolayısıyla ortalama %10 u gibi. Bu arada 7000 pound biraz abartılı, 2007 model temizleri 10-12 k civarı
Cars are cheaper in the UK.
New prices maybe...
@@newbeginnings8566 No.2006-2008. There are more tax from vehicle prices in Turkey. New prices are approximately 1.5 m TL (220k euro)