Why Plant-Based Beats Paleo and Keto & Everything Blood Glucose | Drew Harrisberg X Rich Roll
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- Rich sits down with physiologist & type 1 diabetic Drew Harrisberg to discuss the power of a plant-based diet to not just manage diabetes, but thrive with it. To read more and peruse the full show notes, go here👉🏾bit.ly/richroll786
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00:00:00 Intro
00:02:55 Drew's Story
00:06:09 The Low Blood Glucose Scare
00:08:31 Discovering Abnormal Blood Test Results
00:14:23 Final Diagnosis of Type One Diabetes
00:25:38 The Power of Exercise Over Glucose Uptake
00:31:05 Ad Break
00:35:56 Paleo Diet and Insulin Requirements
00:41:10 Keto Diet and Initial Success
00:44:28 Challenges with Keto Diet
00:49:40 Exploring a Plant-Based Approach
00:54:58 The Decision to go Plant-Based
00:56:39 Plant-Based Impacts on Blood Glucose Management
00:58:11 Downsides of Using a Ketogenic Diet with Diabetes
01:02:01 Reversing Type 2 Diabetes
01:04:07 The Surprising Impact of a Fruitarian Diet on T1 Diabetes
01:05:21 The Role of Weight Loss in Reversing Type Two Diabetes
01:06:23 Debunking Myths about Grains and Their Impact on Health
01:16:27 Overcoming Fear of Changing Diet
01:18:40 Debunking Myths About Lectins
01:21:19 The Role and Implications of Continuous Glucose Monitors (CGM)
01:24:43 The Importance of Education in Using CGMs
01:26:03 The Clinical Meaningfulness of CGM Data
01:31:04 CGMs as a Tool for Early Detection of Diabetes
01:33:23 The Full-Data Picture of Continuous Glucose Monitoring
01:34:11 Effects of Time-Restricted Eating on Blood Glucose Levels
01:34:50 The Impact of Meal Size and Composition on Blood Glucose Spikes
01:36:33 Fasting Protocols
01:44:24 Misconceptions about Plant-Based Diets
01:51:42 Owning and Managing Plant-Based in Social Settings
01:54:30 Drew's Daily Dose and Online Courses
01:59:17 Credits
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Thanks for watching. In response to many comments, the podcast goes to great lengths to carefully distinguish T1 from T2 and explains each in extensive detail. If you found this discussion valuable, please subscribe if you haven't already (80% of views on this channel are from non-subscribers which is nuts!). For more on Drew & the episode pplus show notes, visit: bit.ly/richroll786
Isn't it interesting how so many Filipinos have diabetes. Why is that? Is it from the rice?
@@Lawrence-tw6yc Countries with high diabetes rates such as Lesotho, Swaziland and Solomon Islands, also have the lowest meat and animal consumption rate, while countries with the lowest diabetes death rates such as Finland, Iceland and Canada have higher meat consumption rate.
Thanks for the reminder! I always watch the show and didn’t realize I hadn’t subbed!
@Jeffs60 I think it's from the high carbohydrates, rice. Philippines eat a lot of meat, pork and fish. Pork is the most popular meat in the world. Which is funny because the most popular name is Mohammed🤣. But I think it is from the carbs, they eat big servings of rice. China has the highest rate of diabetes 140 million people.
@@Lawrence-tw6yc China has 140 million living with diabetes since they have the largest population. I was saying death rate from diabetes and according to world life expectancy map Fiji is rank #1 and China is very low at rank 148 for death per 100,000 due to diabetes.
As someone who’s three weeks into a Type 1 diagnosis, just want to say thank you. This episode helped in a hundred different ways.
Rich Roll has played a very incredible roll in my life w/ his podcasts on plant-based eating. I thank him from my heart. I was diabetic & 70 lbs. overweight when I learned about intermittent fasting, which I began doing; from there I learned about whole foods, plant-based. I listened to Rich’s podcasts on “Mastering Diabetes” & his podcast with Dr.B on fiber & fermented food. Everything clicked & before I knew it my glucose levels were normal & my HbA1C went from 6.2 down to 5.2.
I feel so much better. My allergies vanished, my arthritis went away. I eat whole foods & especially beans & other legumes. My labs all went down in the fats area such as LDL, TG, Cholesterol & my HDL went up nicely. My kidney values also improved. I have been eating like this 11 mos. I love making & eating my own beans, esp. black beans. Fiber-fueled. Yay!
Great episode. A plant based diet literally saved my husbands life. I joined him and ive never felt better!!!❤
Were you doing it low fat or eating tofu and avocado abd nuts and seeds
@annelewis7435 We watch our fat, but we do not do no fat.
@@desertgirl483 what types and amounts would you say daily
A carnivore diet saved my life. I do not touch plant food.
@@user-jl1ry7qp1y lol you guys are exactly the same as vegans
Harrisburg is a wonderful speaker, calm and patient, explaining things clearly. His descriptions of CGMs, their functions and best use, is helpful and reasonable. Also, to have someone who can compare a standard diet, paleo, keto, now WFPB on his experience makes him an example to listen to.
One simply cannot argue with the WFPB
One can and many do
@@alexashleigh8787 unfortunately unbiased studies care not for the subjective arguments against
100% plants and wouldn't look back at my 81years.
The difference between complex carbohydrates (whole foods such as whole grains, vegetables, legumes), and simple carbohydrates (refined and processed carbohydrates), needs to be distinguished. The week-long retreats I've been involved with, using the former category of foods, have allowed diabetics to reduce and in some cases eliminate the administering of insulin in such a short period of time. Thanks for sharing your story Drew (and thanks Rich).
1. Is whole grain oat groats? Steel cut? Rolled? Even Gregor has said he has trouble in some patients with high triglycerides (from grains). 2. I’m still waiting for someone to comment on a. Plant based vs b. Plant based minus grains, increasing nuts/seeds/avocado.
Even minor exercise can deplete glycogen stores, and enable people to eat most if not any food (in moderation obviously) without issue. I really think the mind-set that exercise is almost irrelevant for weight loss or managing diabetes is a much bigger issue.
@@Scottlp2 Steel cut oats will give you the best results.
@@djackson4605elite comment.
@@djackson4605Doing regular aerobic exercise should additionally improve your energy metabolism.
I've been a type 2 for over 15 years and I'm trying to eat plant based but its difficult at times. So what I'm doing for now is 80% plant and 20% meat. This has reduced my glucose levels a lot along with exercise. Listening to you guys was very helpful. Thanks!
@@elvitos Because your brains prefered fuel is glucose EINSTEIN
@@elvitosyou are talking rubbish. Let me guess you just eat meat 🥱
@@elvitosAre you joking? Did you even listen to the podcast? The guest went keto or high fat and STILL had problems with his condition and became insulin resistant. It wasn't until he became completely whole food plant based with a lot of naturally occurring carbohydrates that he became less insulin resistant and better able to manage his diabetes.
@@elvitosYou didn’t pay attention, did you?
@@elvitoshigh blood sugar is a symptom of diabetes. Diabetes, by DEFINITION, is the body's inability to produce or respond to the hormone insulin. Eating no carbs is just treating a symptom. It is like me, my ankle hurts when I walk. So the problem is me walking, just stop walking would be my answer according to this logic. But if the actual problem can be fixed, that does seem preferable.
After 4-5 months of low fat (
As usual such a wonderful unbiased look at nutrition and how we can use food to help our body deal with serious conditions. This is what an open mind looks like.
Unbiased, lol...
@@zed5129 Did you listen to the podcast? This gentleman tried many diets looking for a way of eating that would help support his body in dealing with type 1diabetes and he found that a plant based diet was the best for him. He even acknowledged that it might not be the best for everyone. So where is your problem? It seems like you are the one with the closed mind.
@@mickilicyes5399 I did listen. Harrisberg has a very serious condition called Type 1 diabetes, had very serious symptoms because of it, and tried to solve it on his own with a ketogenic diet instead of seeking the advice of a clinician experienced with treating T1 diabetes with the keto diet. It stopped working for him and he didn't know what to do. Then he sought the advice of WFPB experts who helped him bring it under control with a WFPB diet. Hence the bias against keto. He wasn't qualified to treat himself. That said, he did say a lot that sounded right (to my nonexpertise ears). It was a good interview.
LOVE DREW!!! I mean brains, braun, beauty, come on! Thank you for an insightful, educational and entertaining conversation Rich and Drew🙏💜🤗🌱
I think this podcast and this episode specifically saved my life. I started being mindful of my saturated fats and am starting to notice the effects of my insulin sensitivity improving!!! Ive been watching other content on the subject matter with this new lens of perception and man how this stuff get convoluted. This detail isn’t specifically addressed but they do mention its benefits in the background like a meta analysis
Rich I have really enjoyed most of your shows. I am totally plant whole food base in a small town in Oklahoma where fried foods and barbecue, plus crap Italian food is the go to. I love love good Chinese food and learning more and more how to cook at home without oil.I enjoy when you talk about just trying things as you go to see what is the best fit . Thank you for your energy and all the background helpers. They do not go unnoticed.😺
1:00:00 those saying this is propaganda haven’t watched it. He says you can manage diabetes with keto, he’s just saying there’s alternatives (I’m not a vegan btw, just a scientist that likes to hear all approaches)
Which just makes me wonder how seemingly intelligent people still pay for the rape, confinement, abuse and murder of sentient beings for their disgusting little sandwich. It literally turns my stomach. Those little boy calf's are so sweet. They look around with their beautiful hopeful faces as they are loaded into a trailer getting taken from their mothers to be killed for your cheese. They are adorable looking around wondering what the next thing in life is for them. Except there is nothing but fear pain and death. It destroys me. How could you? No really. How could you??
Yep, I would suggest any keto advocates to at least watch Earthlings. At least be informed, even if you choose to support it.
I used to be one of the very few small scale basically backyard cattle farmers so it made me think it was all that good.. it is not.
And even for that it was 25 acres of grassland for like 6 cows at a time. @@KerriEverlasting
@@KerriEverlasting yep I agree and both Richband Drew print-out the dark horrors of animal abuse.
They both said the best way to show people is to be living examples. I'd like to believe that but when we have educated scientists saying thank you for showing alternative approaches but still don't want to try vegan I just wonder where empathy and common sense goes.... I'm utterly astounded too. No wo her society and the world is a mess. If some folks look at these two guys and tgeir families who are thriving and people STILL refuse to ditch animal products, then words utterly fail me.
@@mikafoxx2717 thank you so much for stating some truth about back yard farming. If you have found wfpb well done, if you are contemplating the switching diet, I wish you all the very best.
Really interesting and clear recounting of his dieting experiences. People can learn a lot from this.
Thanks for clarifying that non-carnivore keto diets not only are possible, but also can effectively manage T2D in some people.
Yet in the end it didn't work for him. I wonder if he got a unique response with such high insulin resistance or is this more common in ketogenic diets.
Saturated fat causes insulin resistance, leading to t2d. Whole food plant based diets are far superior. Carbohydrates do not cause t2d.
Keto is not a good long term (over a year) diet, many studies show this
@@PigJarHut
Many of us are going on 5+ years.
Yes, but for the people who get resistant to the insulin they are injecting, it can be terrifying. Robby from Mastering Diabetes did a Plant-Based Keto diet and then switched to Whole Food Plant Based Low Fat and his insulin sensitivity improved by 900% - that is what convinced me that even healthier keto diets don't match Whole Food Plant Based Low fat diets.
Kudos to those who change to a starchbased vegetarian diet, without dairy and extra oil especially those who have never eaten plants earlier.
In India ( I am 67,a South Indian lady),
until the 80s, we South Indian Brahmins ate a ricebased vegetarian diet with a little dairy but oil was a little extra. No one went regularly to restauraunts to eat. Hardly anyone was overweight.
Today it's a different story in India.. All take a lot of dairy in our community ( thanks to the false assumption that they are getting benefits from calcium and protein) and oil consumption has increased. Hardly anyyone is fit, especially after 55.
I am lucky I came to know about Doctor John McDougall in 2021 Oct and threw out the dairy and extra oil.
I continued to run ( my dad is Retd Air Marshal P. V. Iyer) thanks to my dad. He is 94 and has just written a book: Fit at any age.
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Love listening to his journey and knowing there is another path to go down. 💪🌱👍
Thank you, Drew, for sharing your story.
I've learned so much.
I have issues with histamine. Many plant-based foods I had to eliminate. I'm not carnivore only, but do eat meat. I have a much easier time eating meat than spinach and some other plant-based food. I love avocado and citrus, but can't have either (along with many other foods). But I do have avocado on ocassion, just has to be very limited on how often. My point is, not everyone can tolerate plants as easily as some.
Have you tried swapping any meat for tofu, or seitan? Just curious if you have tried and what your reaction was?
@@Amshatelia88no, I've never tried seitan and don't care for tofu. I tried tofu many years ago, before the histamine issue started, so not sure if I had any reaction to it. If I did, I wouldn't have known it was from that.
Have you been exposed to mould or been tested for high candida levels? Those can cause you to have many allergies to foods.also incorporating daily doses of good quality vit C ,over time can help with reducing severity of allergies.quercetain is also helpful.
@@crankiemanx8423funny you should say mould because after suffering for a few years from hidden mould at home and places of work, it really messed up my system so much so that I'm now very mould sensitive, fairly chlorine, pollen and histamine sensitive and to a lesser noticeable extent emf sensitivity too.
I'm the same, but went carnivore because I had multiple deficiencies thanks to my supposed very health wholefood plant based. A functional nutritionist explained that was driving the problem with breaking down histamine. If you have deficiency you can't produce DAO enzyme and other detox enzymes sufficiently
People also need to understand, when going from a typical standard American diet to a Whole Foods plant-based diet, they’re changing their gut biomes/gut flora, from Acidic to PH, and this can often cause some digestion issues at first, that is until your body/gut biome, adjusts. This adjustment happens as the organisms in the gut change as your diet changes. Also, our bodies heal more easily when out gut health (because of our diet), is in a PH state, vs being in an Acidic state (which occurs because of continually eating meat -from my understanding).
The carnivore zealots in this comment section are losing it. People have been lied to by fitness influencers and supplement peddlers. A plant based diet is just fine, and a diet that is mostly plant based and occasional meat is the most balanced and what people have been eating for centuries before factory farming, whoever tells you that you need to eat meat every day or even meat alone is absolutely lying to you.
You literally can only do a vegan diet with supplements. You would become extremely malnourished and ill if you tried to do a vegan diet without supplements. Who is the zealot and a shill for supplements?
There is no need to eat corpses ever.
@KerriEverlasting Literally, our brain developed because of eating meat. You don't have three stomachs. You are not a cow or a goat. Delusional.
Yep!!!!!
The only one in the comments that I found who is losing it is you.
Gosh this is such a powerful conversation. Thank you for being open about caring about weight and disordered eating!
Excellent conversation, gentlemen. His was the best description of type 1 diabetes I've ever heard. Many people linger for too long in denial believing that the pancreas may eventually reverse it's ability to produce insulin which unfortunately is not the case. His emphasis on the lows should not be minimalized as can very easily lead to a diabetic coma.
Omg. He explains what exactly happened to me. I am still skinny now, I also try to bulk up but seems not gaining weught, I will gain weight but end up losing it quickly without much effort. I was just like him, I was so insanely sleepy but not very good way. I still remember when n what i wore at that time. It happened a few times when I was in college, I wondered that too so I blught suplements back then without cutting my sugar intake. Now I dont eat any processed foods. I just cook at home. No added sugars. Just 90% plant based and 10% meat. I think I get used to it easly coz my father (70 now) since 10 years old he doesnt eat any meat/milk and just fish occasionaly. So basically plant based 99% . no snacks as well. He smokes n drink coffee but he only eats cooked meals (cooked by him) twice a day and that is it. No snacks no proccesed. Just plant based. He is still active n work. I live in Indonesia so basically since he hates meat so basically all hr knew since he was kid is plant based. I never see him binge aeating in my entire life. Even plain toast he would only eat one slice and that is it. All he eats just plants.
Loved this, mad respect for both of you 🌱
Rich, you first introduced me to Simon and he introduced me to Drew, the timing of this plugcast was great. Glad to hear that post your interview with Tim, that as a vegan, you are now also sceptical about the commercial use of CGMs, as a friend has signed up.
Epic episode!!! Thank you warriors!
Type 1 diabetic here. I think I’m doing Ok, still have some bad moments here or there but overall happy with how I’m managing it.
I find for me that I manage my condition best AND am overall happier when I’m consistently lifting heavy , getting 3-4 cardio sessions in a week and playing sports that I enjoy. I don’t follow any particular diet , or at least one with a name , I just try to get a lot of protein and try to eat a wide variety or whole foods (although I’m not afraid to treat myself 😂)
I was diagnosed 12 years ago , spent the first 10 years doing daily finger pricks and multiple daily injections. Now I have a CGM and a pump and it’s a game changer for me.
To any other diabetics out there. Or parents of diabetics as well ( that can be crazy tough) Just keep going! Do what works for you and remember you (or your T1D child) can live the life you want to live and achieve anything a non diabetic can , it’s just that it’s going to look a little different. Peace ✌️
Thanks Rich, great job as usual and highly informative!:)
One of my favorite episodes!
Thanks for the great evidence based content.
cherry picked data
@@Cuyt24Ah yes. Believe the person that doesn't provide any explanation for their claims 👏
@@Cuyt24ah looking forward to you sharing the peer reviewed science that supports the meat heads
@@Cuyt24It's responses like yours that almost makes me wish that there were whole studies done on people on long term carnivore or animal based keto diets for at least a year or two with those on whole foods plant based diets and control diets so that people like you can see for yourself and stop complaining about 'cherry picked data' but this constantly raises an issue on ethics.
You do know that information already exist right? What do you think humans thrived on for millions of years? There is not one culture, tribe, etc in the world who are complete vegans. None. Veganism is less than a 100 years old, created by the 7 day Adventists group who believed eating meat increases sexual drive. Then it was later used as a marketing strategy(by Kellogs, the guy who created cereal) to sell more grains and crap food because the sales of grains were declining. On doesn't need "studies" What is needed is common sense and asking the right questions. Want data on the origins of the vegan diet look into Melinda Fettkes. She did extensive research on this. I was a vegetarian/vegan for a long time. I bought into all the marketing talk of veganism, until I started with one question, what is the origin of veganism. The key to being informed is not clinging on to a belief when new information comes in that not supports it. Btw, epidemiological "studies," which all the vegan ones are, are not science based. They are surveys/questionaires.@@chiyerano
Wearing a CGM when I noticed my fasting blood sugar creeping up, was instrumental to me, realizing I was a type two diabetic. I followed the mastering diabetes program and wore a CGM for the first three months. In the first month my blood sugars got a bit worse on an SOS free WFPB diet. Eating only for mastering, diabetes, green light foods. After the initial month, I had lost a bit of weight and my insulin sensitivity increased, my fasting blood sugar normalized.
Super informative and really nice to see two easy going plant based souls bring forth the knowledge🙏🏼
Lots of great introductory information about diabetes in this episode! I'm shocked it took so long for Drew to get a diagnosis when he had all the symptoms of T1 diabetes and his parents are doctors. Just goes to show that we are very affected by our expectations.
I think it's easy to get confused about the similarities and differences in T1 and T2 physiology and management because T1 diabetics can also have issues with insulin resistance. When Drew says that his blood glucose regulation came into balance when he got his saturated fat to below 10% of his calories, a listener might wonder if that's all they need to do. But there are lots of other factors like visceral and ectopic fat, etc. etc. Thank you Drew and Rich! ~ Marian Blum
Everything with a grain of salt...
As a side note, I think food waste is an issue we need to address here in the USA.
Interesting. In US blood glucose is measured in double or triple digits. Ideal fasting levels between 70-100mg/dL. When he said 3-5, I had to go look up what he meant!
Plant based for the win……every time!
Excellent interview
Really enjoyed this podcast, such incredible information and delivered so well 👏
Drew is the BEST!!!
Excellent Content, tons of science, lots of practical application. Thank you.
No manner of "elimination" focused diets, plants or otherwise, have ever made a material difference long term in managing my type 2 diabetes. Avoiding a calorie surplus and sufficient exercise is the game changer. Makes going to dinner parties easier too.
Enjoyed. Thanks
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Amazing 😍 So inspirational !!!
Love 💕 it
Bravo 👏
This is so beautiful.. Plants for the win 🙌
I’m keto for the vanity, weight-loss and aesthetics, but I still like your content, and I bought SriMu cheese for my dear vegan friend.
Thank you!
I find it fascinating that freezing bread then toasting it decreases the GI of it. I do this with sourdough rye. It seems to work.
1:30:00 To clarify, in Australia from 1 July 2022, CGM subsidies (through NDSS - Govt funded) were expanded to cover all Type 1 diabetics, but not other types (eg not Type 2, Type 3c), thereby disregarding others on insulin (where the risk of hypos are an issue), & other medical issues where CGM's can be a significant asset with tracking glucose levels (eg chemotherapy drugs, glucose based IV's, corticosteroids, etc). And I think CGM subsidies should be extended to include the elderly that may need help with carers & healthcare workers tracking their glucose levels remotely, in realtime (ie using apps).
Personally I think CGM's should be given to everyone just diagnosed with diabetes, for at least a fortnight, to learn the impact of diet, exercise/activities, sleep, medications etc on their personal health. It's a massive learning curve for many.
Could you possibly spell out what CGM is? And other acronyms.
@@cmuir6757 Yes, CGM: 'Continuous Glucose Monitoring', NDSS: 'National Diabetes Services Scheme' (administered by Diabetes Australia, eg government subsidised CGM devices, blood glucose test strips, needles / syringes, pumps, etc). Diabetes meds (eg insulin) are heavily subsidised through Medicare. Then there are diabetes educators & dietitians provided through Community Health services.
Type 3c Diabetes (Pancreatogenic Diabetes) is when the pancreas stops producing enough insulin due to an illness or condition that affects or damages the pancreas (eg Pancreatic Cancer, surgery, etc). So this can be very different to Type 1 or 2.
Glucose based IV: ie intravenous administered. Some IV medications need to be preceded by a glucose IV drip &/or are glucose based.
You can imagine what this does to a diabetic's blood glucose levels, but having a CGM on, you don't have to imagine ;)
As mum to a T1 teenager, this was very interesting to me, my son was diagnosed at 11. I remember taking him to a school trip to a swimming pool, it was end of May, I was shocked when he took his clothes off, on how skinny he was. I even took him to the doctor…Now, 5 yrs later he still has not accepted it yet. Very hard for me to say anything about his diet :(
Don’t know what Drew has to say about it, maybe I will chase him if doesn’t answer here. What I don’t like in the WFPB community is that a lot of people in it seem very militant on fat in general, not only saturated. As a Southern Italian, my region is one of the biggest producers of olive oil. Now I hear all these TH-camrs repeating how olive oil is bad for you, that has no nutrients, just because all these American doctors WFPB are saying it. Doctor Longo who is Italian is clearly not saying that extra virgin olive oil is bad. Well, it’s really hard for me to believe it. My question to Drew is what is in his mind the percentage of unsaturated fat considered acceptable. 20%? Do higher doses of unsaturated fat get in the way of insulin sensitivity? Clearly understand that saturated fat does. But unsure about unsaturated fat and in the video he keeps mentioning that saturated fat being the problem. Thanks
I wouldn‘t be concerned about olive oil. The Mediterranean diet has one of the best health outcomes.
oils are inflammatory, we don't need them, we need to consume a small handful of nuts, and/or a bit of avocado, olives, 10% of fat in our daily caloric income are enough, plus in the case of type 1 or type 2 diabetes, we need to avoid too much fat, particularly saturated fat. Listen to dr Neal Barnard or Caldwell Esselstyn for example.
@@captainpawpawchannel that’s I what I was referring to. I am sorry but I don’t believe it. I am not talking about canola oil and similar and not even about olive oils that you don’t know where they are coming from. I am talking about oils of high quality and rich in polyphenols. I had my olives trees and we used to mill our oil, I know how it tastes. Coming from a place where people know where food is coming from, still forage for wild vegetables and fruits, this extra virgin olive thing is a no sense and a big chunk of people of the WFPB community repeat it as a mantra that is a poison. I avoid saturated fat but I will keep using my extra virgin olive oil in moderation. I already listened to these doctors, I even like Dr Barnard, but I also listen Dr Longo, that is closer to my culture. In the end, I think who got it right is Micheal Pollan: Eat food, not too much, mostly plants. ✌️
@@Franciuk Actually it makes no sense to consume processed food as our ancestor didn't consume any, plus it has been shown that oils are inflammatory, and that we only need 10% fat in our caloric income, or even less
@@FranciukI am Spanish, the first world producer of olive oil in the world. I was raised eating only olive oil in all kind of traditional recipes. And the high consumption of olive oil nowadays os not what my ancestors or Mediterranean people ate at all. They ate mostly low fat dieta by actual standards in Spain, Italia, Greece, because olive oil is an expensive product, as it was meat, or even fruit majority of time. So certain amount can be even useful, of course tasteful, but a real Mediterranean diet has no as much olive oil as I ate.
I appreciate the discussion about CGM. I have thought about it a lot but decided not to do it because I don't want to become too obsessive about my diet and lifestyle. I do everything I can to be healthy including eating a WFPB diet etc. but I have a tendency to be a bit obsessive about things so I've decided to save myself the stress of monitoring everything and focus more on enjoying my life as well!
Whole food plant based for the Animals, all Humans, the Planet and the mind in peace
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You mean killing the bugs, birds, snakes, rabbits, gophers, voles, mice to grow the vegatables, fruits and nuts, while destroying the soil and spraying pesticides everywhere?
Does anyone know which Michelle McMacken video that was mentioned? I want to watch it.
I live in NJ suburbs, and most restaurants now have a couple of vegan options.
The Rogan bros are gonna lose their s*** over this.
Great. I just wish the host hadn't interrupted the guest so frequently - and usually at length!
I was taking part in Prof Tim Spectre's ZOE trial ... I got to wear a CGM for two week... It was MOST informative and I enjoyed experimenting with different foods ... So interesting to see that bread shot my BG up but potatoes didn't ... We're all very different, with different responses to so many different things... "One Size Does NOT fit All".... Brilliant show ... thanks so much...
In th US cgm are not paid for unless you are insulin dependent i believe, my husband didnt qualify being T2 diabetic diet controlled nor my sis in law being diabetic on oral hypoglycemic.
Just started listening, I’m around the 10min mark. I just have to say that an A1c test is not a rare test, at least in America. It’s a standard lab value that they draw for.
Thanks for a great discussion. I’ve been transitioning to WFPB diet for the last 2-3 months. I struggle with recipes. The Fiber Fueled Cookbook by Dr Will Bulsowitz is awesome! Can you recommend other resources for cooking amazing food? Thanks!
1. How Not to Die Cookbook
2. Google
@@VeganLinked thank you!
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The Mommy Vegan
Mastering Diabetes program
Here we go again with the simple truth 👉🏽 plant based for the win, *AGAIN* 🏅
People fight this obvious truth kicking and screaming til’ the end. They don’t want to face nor stop their bad habits 🤦🏻♂️
Veganism is a death cult
@@MarcusUnread Right ❗️Instead of at least just eating some friut and vegetables which don't cause high blood pressure or cholesterol or heart disease
@@SuperFoodParentsname one scientific clinical experiment that proves your hypothesis that meat causes high blood Preasy and heart disease. Just one. No surveys allowed.
@@MarcusUnread i have one very very good habit - I do not eat plant food. saved my life
1:18:43 why do people always forget that you can also sprout
I wish you had subtitles in Greek to reach a bigger audience in Greece
great
here we go
Even Sean Baker says you can do Keto on a vegan diet, just doesn’t suit everyone.
at 1:06 it's timestamped as "debunking myths about grains" but during that segment there was absolutely no debunking at all.
Do alfalfa sprouts and other sprouts sunflower, lentils, wheat help control blood sugar?
Yes!!! Absolutely. And beans have a burning affect that lasts till the next day. Since your body is burning beans 20 hours after you eat them you body is in a thermogentic stasis and your blood sugar is being controlled longer.
It's so ironic how this whole idea of eating innocent baby animal body parts that somebody else killed for you is somehow manly. Anyways great talk between you two! Drew is really flowing well here.
It doesn’t come from the actual act of killing the animal. It comes from how meat supports a healthy human hormonal system that allows a man to develop properly (and also a woman to develop feminine features properly)
You're spewing complete rubbish. There's plenty of amazing men and women vegan from conception and even multigenerational who are very healthy, no diseases, no medications, and probably have been vegan longer than you've been alive. And they have perfectly fine features. Furthermore, the totality of evidence renders leading health organizations and professionals stating that a well planned vegan diet is healthy and appropriate for every stage of live. And that it may even be most protective against chronic diseases and all cause mortality. @@alexashleigh8787
You can be plant based and reverse diabetes. You can be carnivore and reverse diabetes. One doesn’t negate the other. Both diets require the elimination of processed foods to reverse type 2 diabetes.
I choose a carnivore diet.
You never reverse diabetes on a carnivore diet. You simply mask the symptoms of it. The long-term complications are still brewing in the background.
And importantly the Randle effect don’t forget
1:15:00
Randle effect anyone?! 🤔🤔🔬
If you consume significant amounts of both carbohydrates and fat, they will both cross-inhibit each others intake and utilisation. This is problematic and leads to the construct of “insulin resistance” over time. If you alleviate one of these macro sources, the problem will resolve. This is why carnivore/low carb works and this is also why WFPB low fat also works (for the time being). The problem is mixing macronutrients largely. There are other issues with eating in these ways that one needs to be cognisant of too.
Also, I feel like they weren’t clear enough about highlighting that T1D and T2D are different conditions, the latter being caused by eating improperly, rather than by genetic absence of insulin production.
The issue with reintroducing carbs on keto is not an issue. It’s a physiological adaptation because of the lack of carbs in the diet. If one were to increase carbs slowly they would regain glucose tolerance and pass a glucose tolerance test (“physiological insulin resistance”). That’s not the same as the pathological “insulin resistance”.
Who is Simon ! Many thanks in advance ❤
@resonatingspirit Simon Hill
I’m 35 today and plant based for 2,5 years now. Before that I was a believer of the keto diet. If YOU are a keto-bro’, just make the switch man. Your future you will thank you. I’m stronger than my 23 year old self, I lift more, I run faster, I look leaner. The food is more delicious (though it takes a few months to learn some new cooking).
On top of it, ALL THE RESEARCH and all the world’s governmental health agencies are backing up whole food plant based diets. You don’t need to live in a world where everything is a conspiracy and everyone’s been lying to you.
Join the side of the research and feel better than ever.
In case you didn't notice all the world's health gov agencies recommended locking people and kids up if they didnt get the jab. They have no credibility at all.
@@cmuir6757 Yeah! And they also think the world is round, thats nuts right?
Same dude. I fell for the keto carnivore (Cult) and it didn't do much for me but I thought I was being healthy, somehow. Plant Chompers debunking their facade of arguments tipped me into how fragile that echo chamber is. A bunch of conspiracy theorists and several of them are funded by the beef and dairy industry.
Then I watched Earthlings. Good luck supporting so much of that afterwards no matter who you are.
Who is Simon? What book where you talking about? Thank you
I think you have Simol Hill in mind and his podcast.
What are good Soy and Tofu substitutions? I have an allergic reaction when I eat Soy, so I can’t eat those two products. -Thank you.
Seitan, mung beans, lentils, chickpeas, etc. You can make tofu with many of these actually. It can be as easy as cooking red lentils and pouring them into a cake pan and letting it cool before cutting it up into squares of "tofu".
Beef, chicken, fish, eggs, whey protein. The best and most nutritious, you don't want mashed up slop.
@@user-ch4qq1ib7h some people don’t want to munch on tortured murdered animals
@@user-ch4qq1ib7h Time for you to rewatch the episode 😉
No thanks, after 50 minutes it just became vegan echo chamber content, that's the only reason Rich has this guy on. Seems like at first it's science but as you get further into the conversation this guy is simply putting his emotions before health. @@annoyingbutmorallyconsistent
Plant based diet gave me pancreatitis and pre diabetes
wow ..that insulin scare and keto must have been absolutely terrifying/
Why are carnivores watching Rich Roll? Just curious
They don't, they just spend an inordinate amount of time trolling.
why Rich Roll got a thick eyeglasses? 🙄
Because it keeps being pushed by TH-cam. I comment often on carnivore sites but still vegan sites keep cropping up on my feed.
I’ve tried plant based in the past but I have to say that carnivore is by far the better way for me to eat. 4 years carnivore strong and soon to be turning 71. Never felt better.
Americans seem to have a need to create factions. People’s identities or titles aren’t defined by food choices. Carnivores are just like any other human looking for answers about optimizing health. It’s not a container it’s a river…. Fluid and changing. I listen to all the leaders courageous enough to have a podcast to help me glean knowledge. This divisive language isn’t necessary, we’re all on a journey of discovery- be inclusive and see how much more peace there is around you.
Is this some religious ritual?
Is Rich Roll sponsored by Salomon or ON?
But you still can’t handle saturated fat without a spike?
I don't know Drew, U said you were not receptive to an "aggressive" advocacy for animal rights yet the first story U recall was the so called aggressive one. U felt it was aggressive but it was just a fact that placed your dissonance at the time, right in front of you to see. Thanks for speaking for animal rights and ethics here a little as it's too often skirted around and not enough plant based people speak up for the massive ethical emergency happening to trillions of animals every year.
I'm an RN and my last keto patient kept insisting her keto diet was a cure, as she was on about 150 units of insulin and climbing a day, and her blood sugar was staying over 250. She was completely resistant.
I’m an RN and I can sympathize… no one believes that keto is unhealthy. They’re all so brainwashed
Have you ever studied the randle cycle???
Very few have unfortunately
A voice of sanity. Very informative for a soyboy. Info can be applied by an omnivore. Eatting my Nato at this moment.🙏🏻👹🏊♀️🏋🏻
Mercola dumped Keto like a bad habit. It was always a lie.
true but we should be ignoring Mercola in general. he's a marketer
@@smilebot484 true
Really when did he say that
@@getdown8990 Months ago. Carnivore and keto are psy-ops. A desperate last ditch attempt to stop the plant based movement which has grown exponentially over the past 20 years..
All science is just a nonsense, to make more problems and confusion
Who is Simon they refer to?
Simon Hill from The Proof Podcast. He's been on Rich's podcast twice before. He's awesome if you really want to get into the science behind nutrition and WFPB eating.
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Oooooh this is going to be good.
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"My protocol is enjoying my life." 😎🔥
That’s hedonism. Only you matter!! And the world reflects your minions. Please don’t have children!!
Please tell what types of fat are saturated fat.
They are of the saturated variety ie have only single carbon-carbon bonds, making them straight
Excellent!
Does this work for insulin resistance in anyone and for just trying to prevent
Aajonus Vonderplanitz: We want to Live. Learn it, Love it, Live it!
We will all have a very hard time going out into the desert and waiting for wild coyotes to bring us dead bunnies.
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@@Falafelzebub Whatever works
Very interesting. Great guest. Drew was actually observing first hand the long term negative effects of a keto diet. On the public fear of carbs issue, this is why McDougall references the Kempner rice diet which was used to treat type 2 diabetes successfully. Kempner's diet included white rice, sugar, fruit and fruit juices. It was low in fat, low protein and low cholesterol. If low carbers were right, how was it that this high carb/ low fat diet worked in reversing type 2 diabetes?
masculinity to me, as a woman, is protecting the vulnerable who have no voice or strength to protect themselves, children, some women, all animals, disabled people, bullied men
men who defend and protect are men in my eyes , men who don't protect and only think of themselves... are children in my eyes, spoilt children who through their un-consciousness cause a tremendous amount of suffering ...women who don't care about the suffering of the vulnerable are also quite terrifying to me and un feminine...love, care, protection..this is beautiful..selfishness is ugly ❤
I love the constant debate about these diets! It’s entertaining. I employ all 3 diets and dropped my body fat to 9% from 17%. Here’s the only diet that a person needs: Reduce all sugar as much as possible. That includes honey, agave, maple syrup, etc. Reduce fruit consumption by almost as much. A piece of fruit every 2 or 3 days is fine. Stop consuming ALL seed oils. And last, it’s redundant but don’t eat processed food. Processed foods have both sugar and seed oils. Period! Full stop. Eat natural food, and don’t eat fruit every day.
BS. Eat fruit every day folks
Thank you! I've been so confused lately with all the conflicting information on which diet is the best, but these simple rules have stayed consistent!
ssssh..its actually science who creates all the problems, total cult thing!. Imagine, people knew much less 100 years ago and they were much stronger, and now we are overwhelmed by science that tells its this and that and changing all the time opinions, it actually fools people, and there are lots science nut heads who think they are following the right things... ohh not,.. Seems as humans dont have middle path, we go extremes with either diets, only meat, only veggies why just eat balanced diet?
I agree that plant based is an ideal ... aggressive advocacy, and false information is not a vegan's friend ... if you alienate small farmers who aren't factory farmers you aren't doing animals any favours. By spreading falsehoods in your cause, you hurt your cause. Spreading the truth works ...