So, the homewrecker plans to "press charges" for full custody of her husband's child from his ex-wife (the child's mother), when he has had barely any contact since the divorce and the mother was already granted full custody? How does she think that's going to work?
Maybe she has friends in high places? I just watched another RGirl video where OP couldn't get a restraining order for MIL because she is BFF with the prosecutors wife! Small Towns, go figure‼️
Okay. She’s just trying to use the daughter to replace children she couldn’t have. I believe with all my heart if she could she wouldn’t be doing this at all. Since she was okay with it for almost a year until (this part I’m assuming) she went and found out she couldn’t have children then all of sudden she felt like she was a mother to her daughter too? Hell no Mandy is out of her mind with baby fever.
Mandy needs to be in a mental hospital as does Peter. Not to mention she probably cannot have children which is why they came up with their insane plan.
Yes I fully believe that if Mandy could have children Peter wouldn’t have looked back for their daughter. He would’ve acted like she didn’t exist. Now since she can’t they want to play family?!???!!! They’re out of their minds.
Sure she can't trust him, but why is she saying a huge part of him only getting supervised at the beginning was because of cheating? Why is that a factor?
You're just silly if you think a mother has this much power. Only possible if they are from an unknown country whose rules are different from our culture. Notice she kept saying, "i, I, I, I" as if she has final judge and say.
An affair partner who can't have kids due to pregnancy health risks and a delusional mindset with a man who abandoned his child for 8 months with no explanation nor reasoning.
@@Deedoof1) 50% off women getting divorced admitted to having second partner. 2) women 18-25 are cheating more now. 3) taking away a child from a parent because of cheating is a DK move and parent getting full custody shouldn't get anything. That's why 50% off men don't want to have any relationship with a woman.4) name 1 benefit of getting married for a man. I can give you plenty of why you shouldn't get married. 5) only a monster will not let father to see his children
OP needs to remember (or not gloss over) the fact that the 1st time she'd seen her ex after 8 mos was to threaten to press child-neglect charges against her and intimidate her into handing over her child. I would never allow these people to be alone with my child b/c it wouldn't surprise me if they up and disappeared with her.
You guys are way way… please remember that it is their child. She cannot terminate his parental rights. He literally should have gone back to court and requested an amendment to the original order. They also should not have threatened to press charges. These adults are idiots especially the ex and new wife. I feel sorry for the baby.
@@vilnap3002 The baby is fine - especially with no contact with dad. And it depends on where these people live if he has any parental rights or not. This is why in some cases a woman (and even men) will not ask for child-support thus negating any legal right to visitation. This is especially true in places like Japan where when a divorce takes place the mother will take back her maiden name and even change the baby's name on the birth certificate.
8 month of no contact with child is not considered abandonment and reason to terminate rights? Aside of threatening to take child away from mom debacle?
8 month of no contact with child is not considered abandonment and reason to terminate rights? Aside of threatening to take child away from mom debacle?
how does somebody juggle, "I'm a good parent". when they have cheated and set up a bag example for their child. isnt being a role model for your kid part of being a good parent?
Not to mention he was ready to leave her life forever until his wife couldn’t conceive. He didn’t want her until he realized he couldn’t replace her. He’s disgusting and is the worse kind of parent. Any parent that’ll drop their children like that isn’t a good parent.
Part time "daddy" isn't healthy for any child. A "parent" who thinks that coming around only when the mood is right for themselves is only going to damage the trust the kid has in them. 8 months with no contact?
I was thinking the exact same thing! Who's to say he won't pull that shit again?? And disappear for another 8 months or even longer! Now here his ass comes to try and take the little girl because The Homewrecker is too old now to have kids without significant health problems 😤. They probably only came to this decision because the adoption process was too expensive for them. So instead of doing that why not just take the ex wife's daughter away from her for very little money in comparison 🤔🙃?!?
Guy is abusive to your daughter to cheat and play house with your daughter while having his affair behind your back, while married to you. That is totally messed up. That lady is super toxic too. She is trying to take your place, and will probably abuse your daughter if she gets anywhere near your daughter.
Messed up as it is, that scenario is not at all uncommon. And sometimes courts will discount that behavior and award the cheating parent with more custody because of a more "stable" household. A household only made stable by the deliberate disruption of the now single parent's household. Happens mostly to women, but not always.
@@shells500tutubo But court's also look at the home wreckers parental alienating behavior too. The lady basically wants to take the mom's place. And the dad was the one making threats about taking the daughter away from the mom after abandoning them. That is not stable behavior at all. Better to be in a single mom home with a stable parent than with someone who throws tantrums and makes threats and tries to push mom out of the picture because she can't have kids.
And taking the child to meet and be around his mistress while married. "Don't tell mommy it's a secret " and so. When the little girl grows up she will have major issues over this
Clearly, the new wife is unfamiliar with the law. If she really thinks there are laws against being a single parent, her college education was just a waste of time and money.
My dad and his mistress tried doing the same thing with my mom. The mistress couldn’t have kids so they tried taking me (and not my older brother) after the divorce. The way my mom tells it, they tried making my mom go crazy so I’d be taken away from her. Nope, didn’t work. They ended up adopting years later and I adore my little brother.
A somewhat similar scenario went on in the Betty Broderick case, and I think it's safe too say they DID drive her crazy somewhat, enough to take a gun to them both.
Purely intimidation tactic, they were hoping that OP would immediately give in to avoid a costly legal battle that they'd think they'd lose if fought. One of life's golden rules should be 'Never take legal advice from your enemy'.
Op is definitely the best parent, especially with the help of her parents. The "dad" abandoned her wholly. I'd be sure to inform her school about the situation. She should also change her number as well as block them or keep the number and when he's texting threats to inform the court that he/she/they have violated the RO.
--- Get a lawyer ASAP, take him back to court to sever any custody. Remind him and everybody else, he stopped visiting at all for 8 months. But he still has supervised visits through the courts, which can happen through Zoom. Too much drama for me.
To add to that he only wanted the child back after realizing his wife couldn’t have any of her own. He would’ve been okay replacing his daughter and acting as if she didn’t exist if they could’ve had their own child.
RO and contact school or daycare with pictures of the pair are in the that are NOT allowed to collect daughter. There's no reason with crazy and i could see attempted abduction.
Op, get back to your attorney & let them know what’s going on. Get things in place now to further protect your daughter & yourself. I’m going to take a stab in the dark & say that the adulteress is infertile. Or your adulterous husband has been snipped & can’t sire any more children. There may be money on the line if his parents or grandparents have threatened to withhold money/inheritance if he doesn’t bring your daughter around again. He abandoned her for eight months, that may be enough time to legally get him out of your daughter’s life. As your daughter gets older you should let her know what a poor excuse of a husband, dad & man he is. & exactly what he did. But be careful because you don’t want to be tried for parental alienation. Don’t forget to warn every school, teacher, childcare provider, neighbor, friend, dr etc…. that these people are not have contact or info re you or your daughter.
Protect yourself and your daughter from this pair of crazy psychos...Get a Lawyer to make sure Your Daughter from being kidnapped by this pair...They must want your Daughter because She Cant have a child but Wants your Daughter like a Puppy to be Adopted. He abandoned Mandy over 8 months ago....Stand Your Ground and Protect your Daughter......
OP’s ex husband is an a hole along with his affair partner new wife, There are lots of single mothers out there and they do a fabulous job and OP is one of them to Sue for that 🤬 He stops visiting and he says she’s the crappy parent 🤬 he doesn’t care about his daughter is only doing it his new wife who is a horrible person, I don’t understand why people don’t get divorced and then be with the person they want to be.
Does the ex and side piece think the daughter is a doll they can play with, then discard at will? Their attitude is not the sort be suitable to be parents.
Crazy but quite believable. I had a work colleague whose two sons were taken from elementary school by their father (school sued because he was on a no pickup list) and taken to their father's Southeast Asian. She didn't see them for TWENTY YEARS, when they found her through social media after they reached adulthood and were no longer controlled by their dad. Dad got away with it but can never enter the US without being arrested.
You cannot get up in her face and make such a definite threat, and then came back and try to play victim. HE choose not see his own daughter for a year. I bet she can’t have kids of her own and that’s why she want OPs daughter
When OP stated that Mandy was going to press criminal charges I nearly choked when OP stated what Mandy thought that something she could do that!!! If Mandy wants to be a mom why doesn't she have her own kid! Don't let either of these people near your child!
Put everything he did in the texts, eight months, wife want a daughter how he really doesn't care just want to make his wife happy you can use them in court. Because he's going to use them
Tough situation, I think it's not ok to keep a father away from their child because of your OWN feelings about the father but I myself would struggle to trust them.
@@aliciabearss8136So what? It IS her, alone, while her ex was traipsing off with his now wife. She hasn't brought any random dudes into the daughter's life like Peter has, so the "me" thing isn't a thing.
Well that is wicked f-d up. What the heck was the ex thinking, letting his mistress spend time with the baby he had with his wife??! Not on the level, man. Good luck, OP. I think your daughter will be ok because she has you, but it’s guaranteed that they will seek her out when she is older, so be prepared.
when it comes to child custody you always need to consult your lawyer. You can really screw yourself over if you violate a court order. you need to protect yourself.
Op ex husband is a idiot to let his new wife force him to leave his daughter and op should take her ex husband and his wife to court and get a protective order against them
I would get a protection order, and, if allowed, a CCW permit to carry a handgun along with having a shotgun that's loaded with rock salt, bean bag, or 00 Buckshot shells.
A woman that sits down in the street and throws a tantrum like a toddler wants to raise somebody elses child?? So whose going to raise who? First she commands her husband to stay away from his child and then when she decides " ok, i want children now and realize its to late for her, she just decides to grab somebody elses. Man this woman is tripping. I took your husband so now im back for your daughter😮
Husband new wife is full of Bulls it,she has no parental rights with your child,and it sounds like ex husband lost custody and the the mother has got to call the cops on the Two of them and get a restraining order
Specify every text he hasn't seen her in 8 months and your child is not a new toy for his wife he can use the texts as a way to show he's been trying but your won't let him think theses are for court
Let him only see her through zoom with you right there. If you truly cares for his daughter, you’ll be happy to have any interaction with her but that’s if your daughter wants it unless she’s forced to like in some situations by the court.
These idiots do realize that the court ruled for op to have full custody. Any judge would laugh them out of court for pressing those charges because 1 there's alot of single mothers out there that is not grounds for neglect. 2 the guy disappeared for almost a year op didn't telk him to stay away. 3 the fact that he thinks he can just disappear and reappear in is daughter's life and also threaten and guilt trip her mother so he can get his way is absolute BS.
Considering the level of mental instability that the ex and the person whom he cheated with has shown, it’s just a matter of time before they try and grab the kid smart thing to do would be move out of state and only stay in touch with her mom the fewer people that knows where they’re at the safer the daughter will be
My daughter saw her dad 3 day's a week. Then he met a younger woman who hated my daughter and I found out year's later, slapped my daughter face. She was 6 year's old. He sent me a letter via his solicitor he no longer wanted to see her. He twice went to my best friend later begging to see her. I persuaded my daughter and he never came. She's 38 year's old now. She still blames me for getting hurt twice. She was his princess and he had told her he would always be there. He broke her. So for 30 year's She's not seen him ever. No birthday cards or presents. She hates him. Never let him destroy your daughter.
Whenever your ex come or phone want to talk always record or make the video. This is necessary to collect evident if there is a problem latter. In this case OP had been threatened and harassed, the evident is enough to file a law suit.
So, for 3 years, he has been teaching your daughter to lie to you about seeing another woman. NTA , you are well out of that relationship. Ask him why he and his new wife don't have their own children and leave yours alone, is she having a problem getting pregnant? That last bit about being too old for having children is a lie. I was 38 when I had my youngest, and had no problems with the birth. If they have a good ob-gyn, there should be no problem.
"He'd been cheating for three years before he confessed." How does this help his argument? Did I miss a page in the Parenting Manual that says cheating for a certain number of years makes you a better parent? Tell this guy to go kick rocks. I'm not done with the story yet. Waiting to see if the real reason the want custody of the kid is that AP can't have a kid of her own. That's why there was no contact for a year. They were trying for one of their own and found out they can't. So now she wants to play mommy to the ready-made kid.
OP is right. The last thing her daughter needs is 'parents' who treat her like a doll rather than a human being. They would abandon her as soon as they find out that parenting is hard work and the needs of the child are more important than them. So many children suffer from parents who drift in and out of their lives leaving them with serious problems for the rest of their lives. Good for OP for taking care of all her daughter's needs.
It depends on the situation of the custodial parent as it’s right to allow their children to see a parent. It’s hard but there’s situations where it’s necessary. It’s cruel but sometimes necessary. Been there with the grandkids.
S1 - This story is certainly not in the U.S. There is no way OP would have that much say in denying the Dad the right to visit his daughter. In fact, I started disbelieving it at the very beginning of the story when OP said the dad only visited under her watchful eye. He is, after all, a parent too. No mention of child abuse or neglect previously.
The second he came back after no contact with daughter for 1 year demanding custody of daughter, first thing to cross my mind was they found out she can't have kids, but after story sounds like she doesn't want to give birth to her own kid, vanity rather than problems women have been giving birth in their 50's long before birth control.
„ you are no good role model for this child.“ *massiv side eye* „Okay….So you, „ checks notes“ , the one who lied, betrayed, cheated and destroyed a marriage is a way better choice then a hard working single mother? Damn, there is all hope lost:/„
He blew it in the first 30 seconds of coming back into her life. He should have offered therapy. Kept Mandy out of it. And said he would try and visit more instead of black mailing her. Like just that one statement could have gotten him a restraining order which could have ruined his employeement and tanked any chance with the kid. This guy just keeps adult blowing it with nonsense. He should have kept visiting and in a year he could have expanded his visitation rights. So, many dang options for this guy to rebuild trust but it's like he doesn't see her or his daughter like thinking feeling human beings.
As soon as Peter was back after abandoning his daughter, my first thought was, "the bish can't have kids". And it is so repulsive how he brought that woman into his home, probably into his and Op's bed, and was playing happy family with the daughter. Unfortunately, this scenario is NOT uncommon. Some details may differ, but as soon as the father gets another gf or wife, he thinks all of a sudden he and gf are better because the single mom (single because HE left) is not good enough.
So u were willing to walk away from your child until u and your new wife realized her dusty uterus was of no use. So now u want your daughter back as a stand in? Wtf.
Wow, can you say CRAZY, what's with the ex and is AP, the are both nut cases, thank God she moved and got a restraining order. God bless you and your daughter and your parents.
….. he’s right though. Her daughter will ask questions and if by chance the child is more like her father than her mother? Space and distance won’t matter. She’ll seek him out and resent the separation. Even if she knows the circumstances explained in this post. I would know, I am that kid.
Not mentioned her but I'm guessing the real reason Mandy didn't have children wasn't because she was too old but that she was sterile, that's why she was so desperate.Mandy was 39 or 40, some women still have children at that age and older, if she wasn't sterile then it was just too inconvenient for her to take that chance.
Ok, the husband does not want to be in the mom’s life at all. He is not looking for a relationship with his ex wife. She believes she is part of the new package. And sadly he is not. Momma needs therapy.
I guess it wasn't enough to take this lady's husband, she wanna take the child too. Absolutely insane. OP, get your 2nd Amendment, please. These people are crazy.
OPs reasoning is too self-centred buuut she's not wrong. If they wanted to renegotiate custody coming at her with threats was the absolute dumbest move. He also failed to even maintain visitation. Why didn't he care for such a long time but NOW wants the kid? He's a tool, his #1 priority is his AP, the kid would always come off worse in any conflict just because of that which is NOT parenting. He's a failure.
He’s only back because his new wife wants a child. He doesn’t want her, his wife does! They want OP to just hand over her baby like she’s a discarded toy and give them a chance to be a family, but they want full custody, not 50/50…meaning OP couldn’t see her child. I would tell that witch that her infertility problems were not my problem. She can either adopt or use a surrogate to get her own child. Mine is not up for discussion!
I think that the new wife is infertile. That is probably why the ex-husband came back. Or maybe the new wife wants children without the effort of giving birth.
They don't want ops daughter, they just want a kid. If she wasn't "to old" to have her own kid they wouldn't give ops daughter a second thought. It's entirely possible if op did what they wanted she could have accidentally gotten pregnant and would likely abandon ops kid again
Ex that cheated showed up at my divorce and threatened me with court so i had to put him down cause obviously the rabies has gotten to his brain and he was suffering
So, for Mandy's sake, he cheated for 3 years. For Mandy's sake he left her. For Mandy's sake, he stopped visiting his daughter. Now for Mandy's sake, he wants his discarded daughter to fulfill Mandy's fantasy. Not once did he think about his daughter. Mandy is deranged and maybe needs a pet, along with a lot of therapy and some moral guidance. And OP's Ex is a sorry excuse for a man, let alone a father.
He basically said he had come to pick up his daughter to live with new wife because of neglect. What’s stopping him from absconding with her, so make sure you emphasise this one act to your lawyers.
I agree it would have been best for the daughter to have both parents. And even though her father cheated, he cheated on the mother, not the child. Sure. However: the father did not show any signs of interest in his daughter for nearly a year. So he either just came up with the idea that his daughter needs a dad, or he knew full well he was damaging her and was ok with that. The one thing more detrimental to the mental health of a child than a parent selfishly abandoning them, is to have that happen multiple times, be that by the same parent, or multiple parental figures. And if the father is given custody, even if he’s now the perfect father somehow, having to be uprooted and losing her mother, her only parent for a good while, is going to feel like abandonment to the child. Since he gladly gave up his own daughter, at the request of his wife, only to claim the kid once wifey wanted a family and couldn’t have her first option: a child of her own, It’s only a matter of time before they abandon the child once more, after having cut her off from her mother, because 1) Mandy has a miracle baby, or 2) the daughter takes after her mother too much for their liking. Mandy has shown to be a bad mother, due to happily robbing the child she claims to love as her own, of a father, after having broken up her home to start with. Her not being a maternal figure to anyone is a blessing.
The only thing op did wrong was threaten to call the police instead of just doing it when the Peter and Mandy showed up to op's home. Peter sounds like this "I can't believe you're still holding me accountable for the fact I cheated on you for three years! Now you're butthurt my wife and I threatened to take full custody of our daughter. That's so unfair!" He abandoned his daughter for his ex girlfriend. Peter sucks. I can't believe a guy like this tricked two women into thinking he's relationship material. My first bet is that Peter found out with his wife that she has infertility issues. My second bet is that they need op's daughter to fall in line with their narrative so they can complete the image they're presenting. When cheaters get married to their affair partner they usually have children shortly afterwards as a way to bury the fact they started out their relationship on infidelity and secrecy. They can also weaponise the kids to make anyone who doesn't approve the relationship into putting their feelings aside "for the kids". "Let us have the family we want for Mandy's sake" for Mandy's sake. This guy gives no craps about his daughter. It's all about Mandy 🙃. Op should have rubbed a middle finger all over Peter's face and told Mandy to go to hell. Take a hint.
Why the hell would he not do that heartfelt explanation about connecting with his daughter instead of leading with "I'm going to sue for full custody because you're a shit mother." ?
God what a pos, threats didn't work so now he tryed a sob story and "poor me", custody has already been decided and he chose not to continue with visitation for almost a whole freaking year. 100% one or both of them are infertile and with their selfish mindset it's all about what they want and nothing to do with what's best for the child
OK, whose decisions deprived the daughter of a father? Isn't keeping someone from leaving their home technically kidnapping? What charges was the homewrecker thinking of pressing? Two deluded people trying to scratch their way up to ''happy normal life'' no matter who they hurt.
They went about it in exactly the wrong way, but his infidelity should have no bearing on whether or not he should be an equal part of his daughter's life. This mom's need to punish her ex regardless of whether or not her daughter suffers because of it is sickening. The fact that 50/50 isnt the default for custody is a profound injustice, but feminists arent interested in using their control of the courts to actually fight for whats equal, they want female advantage even if it means children suffer for it.
I feel like theres more to this story being left out. It kind of sounds like a case of parental alienation. She talks more about herself amd how she was screwed over and they ruined her life and its her daughter. Nothing about her daughters well beimg it was all about OP. It sounds like this man is desperately trying to get some parental ights back and has reached a breaking point. Coming from someone who grew up with a posessive mom and was alienated from my father, the way op talks just remimds my of stuff my mom would say. Unless this is a case of abuse from dad and step mom, which doesmt seem to be the case, OP is definitely the a-hole
There's alot strange and/or missing from this story. What custody battle? It doesn't sound like the dad pursued anything during the divorce, joint is only mentioned later, when she starts calling it a battle. Why were the dad's visits supervised? And by the OP, no less. Supervised visitation is usually ordered if the parent has a history of violence, substance abuse, unstable living conditions...things that actually might harm the child. Not because they were a crappy spouse. And the supervisor is usually a social worker or similar. Custody decisions are definitely influenced by work schedules and living arrangements, but I don't think cheating on the spouse has a lot of bearing these days, no matter how badly that sucks. The dad and stepmom are delusional. He's not going to just make false accusations and get custody, especially after being MIA for 8 months. I don't know where they live, but I don't recommend that the OP try to deny visitation based on that 8 months either. Only the court can terminate visitation rights against the non-custodial parent's wishes.
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What does Mandy want to teach OP's daughter so desperately that OP can't? "How to go after married men and then torture their ex-wives?"
Also how to alienate OP properly! Because Mandy is so good at it, as she has already proven, by her actions with the husband/dad‼️😖
She probably wants to play house and needs a “baby”
So, the homewrecker plans to "press charges" for full custody of her husband's child from his ex-wife (the child's mother), when he has had barely any contact since the divorce and the mother was already granted full custody? How does she think that's going to work?
Maybe she has friends in high places? I just watched another RGirl video where OP couldn't get a restraining order for MIL because she is BFF with the prosecutors wife! Small Towns, go figure‼️
Mandy was never a mother to OP's daughter she's a homewrecker.
The delusion from that woman!
Okay. She’s just trying to use the daughter to replace children she couldn’t have. I believe with all my heart if she could she wouldn’t be doing this at all. Since she was okay with it for almost a year until (this part I’m assuming) she went and found out she couldn’t have children then all of sudden she felt like she was a mother to her daughter too? Hell no Mandy is out of her mind with baby fever.
@@chinaking918glad she's not able to procreate. Her kids might get her homewrecker genes
Wrong. The husband is a home wrecker.
@@justmythoughtsjustmythough7202 lmao, a person who still pursues a married man or woman is also a homewrecker.
Mandy needs to be in a mental hospital as does Peter. Not to mention she probably cannot have children which is why they came up with their insane plan.
Yes, that was mentioned in the story. They claimed that Mandy was of an age where she couldn't conceive naturally.
Yes I fully believe that if Mandy could have children Peter wouldn’t have looked back for their daughter. He would’ve acted like she didn’t exist. Now since she can’t they want to play family?!???!!! They’re out of their minds.
Yes, my thought was that Mandy was ok with Peter ditching his child until it became clear that she wasn't going to have any kids of her own.
@@louisejohnson6057no wonder she's not able to have children. She's only a toy and a side piece
OP can’t trust him. I am on her side she’s protecting her daughter. That’s what a parent does.
I agree but OP focuses more on how it hurt her and not how the affair destroyed her daughter’s home too.
Maybe the father should or trust her with his daughter?
Sure she can't trust him, but why is she saying a huge part of him only getting supervised at the beginning was because of cheating? Why is that a factor?
@@Nielak-dg8njI’m saying like him and his daughter was good what they got going on on has nothing to do with his daughter
You're just silly if you think a mother has this much power. Only possible if they are from an unknown country whose rules are different from our culture. Notice she kept saying, "i, I, I, I" as if she has final judge and say.
She needs to get a restraining order against both of them, not just her ex !
A single mother isn’t able to take care of her child but CLEARLY an affair partner of THREE FREAKIN YEARS is totally up for the job!!! 🙃
Yes, let's trust the deceitful nature of cheaters to be good parents!
Oh and who took care of the child while ex was doing Mandy, oh the mother was.
The affair partner that threw a temper tantrum out on the street, no less. A great sign of someone capable of being a parent /s
An affair partner who can't have kids due to pregnancy health risks and a delusional mindset with a man who abandoned his child for 8 months with no explanation nor reasoning.
@@Deedoof1) 50% off women getting divorced admitted to having second partner. 2) women 18-25 are cheating more now. 3) taking away a child from a parent because of cheating is a DK move and parent getting full custody shouldn't get anything. That's why 50% off men don't want to have any relationship with a woman.4) name 1 benefit of getting married for a man. I can give you plenty of why you shouldn't get married. 5) only a monster will not let father to see his children
OP needs to remember (or not gloss over) the fact that the 1st time she'd seen her ex after 8 mos was to threaten to press child-neglect charges against her and intimidate her into handing over her child. I would never allow these people to be alone with my child b/c it wouldn't surprise me if they up and disappeared with her.
This. I wouldn’t let them even lay eyes on her let alone breath the same air.
You guys are way way… please remember that it is their child. She cannot terminate his parental rights. He literally should have gone back to court and requested an amendment to the original order. They also should not have threatened to press charges. These adults are idiots especially the ex and new wife. I feel sorry for the baby.
@@vilnap3002 The baby is fine - especially with no contact with dad. And it depends on where these people live if he has any parental rights or not. This is why in some cases a woman (and even men) will not ask for child-support thus negating any legal right to visitation. This is especially true in places like Japan where when a divorce takes place the mother will take back her maiden name and even change the baby's name on the birth certificate.
8 month of no contact with child is not considered abandonment and reason to terminate rights? Aside of threatening to take child away from mom debacle?
8 month of no contact with child is not considered abandonment and reason to terminate rights? Aside of threatening to take child away from mom debacle?
how does somebody juggle, "I'm a good parent". when they have cheated and set up a bag example for their child. isnt being a role model for your kid part of being a good parent?
Not to mention he was ready to leave her life forever until his wife couldn’t conceive. He didn’t want her until he realized he couldn’t replace her. He’s disgusting and is the worse kind of parent. Any parent that’ll drop their children like that isn’t a good parent.
Op wouldn't have been a single parent if Mandy closed her loose legs
Part time "daddy" isn't healthy for any child. A "parent" who thinks that coming around only when the mood is right for themselves is only going to damage the trust the kid has in them. 8 months with no contact?
Right then only coming back when he and his trashy wife realized they couldn’t replace the child he already had is disgusting.
I was thinking the exact same thing! Who's to say he won't pull that shit again?? And disappear for another 8 months or even longer! Now here his ass comes to try and take the little girl because The Homewrecker is too old now to have kids without significant health problems 😤.
They probably only came to this decision because the adoption process was too expensive for them. So instead of doing that why not just take the ex wife's daughter away from her for very little money in comparison 🤔🙃?!?
Guy is abusive to your daughter to cheat and play house with your daughter while having his affair behind your back, while married to you. That is totally messed up. That lady is super toxic too. She is trying to take your place, and will probably abuse your daughter if she gets anywhere near your daughter.
Messed up as it is, that scenario is not at all uncommon. And sometimes courts will discount that behavior and award the cheating parent with more custody because of a more "stable" household. A household only made stable by the deliberate disruption of the now single parent's household. Happens mostly to women, but not always.
@@shells500tutubo But court's also look at the home wreckers parental alienating behavior too. The lady basically wants to take the mom's place. And the dad was the one making threats about taking the daughter away from the mom after abandoning them. That is not stable behavior at all. Better to be in a single mom home with a stable parent than with someone who throws tantrums and makes threats and tries to push mom out of the picture because she can't have kids.
And taking the child to meet and be around his mistress while married.
"Don't tell mommy it's a secret " and so. When the little girl grows up she will have major issues over this
Clearly, the new wife is unfamiliar with the law. If she really thinks there are laws against being a single parent, her college education was just a waste of time and money.
My dad and his mistress tried doing the same thing with my mom. The mistress couldn’t have kids so they tried taking me (and not my older brother) after the divorce. The way my mom tells it, they tried making my mom go crazy so I’d be taken away from her. Nope, didn’t work. They ended up adopting years later and I adore my little brother.
A somewhat similar scenario went on in the Betty Broderick case, and I think it's safe too say they DID drive her crazy somewhat, enough to take a gun to them both.
Replying a month later, but they decided to adopt only years later? I hope your little brother is safe and happy.
So many of the claims of what people intend to accomplish in court, without ever visiting a lawyer first, are incredibly unrealistic.
Purely intimidation tactic, they were hoping that OP would immediately give in to avoid a costly legal battle that they'd think they'd lose if fought. One of life's golden rules should be 'Never take legal advice from your enemy'.
The title says it all already. He's psychotic.
Op is definitely the best parent, especially with the help of her parents. The "dad" abandoned her wholly. I'd be sure to inform her school about the situation. She should also change her number as well as block them or keep the number and when he's texting threats to inform the court that he/she/they have violated the RO.
--- Get a lawyer ASAP, take him back to court to sever any custody. Remind him and everybody else, he stopped visiting at all for 8 months. But he still has supervised visits through the courts, which can happen through Zoom. Too much drama for me.
Why didn't he go for shared custody at the start? Oh right he was too busy being 'in love' with new/old piece
To add to that he only wanted the child back after realizing his wife couldn’t have any of her own. He would’ve been okay replacing his daughter and acting as if she didn’t exist if they could’ve had their own child.
Be careful when you drive home from work. If you still have the same job they might follow you home.
Ex hubby was dipping his wick in Mandy's well for over 3 years why didn't she have a kid back then?
The affair partner is most likely infertile, good people like her don’t kneed children.
RO and contact school or daycare with pictures of the pair are in the that are NOT allowed to collect daughter. There's no reason with crazy and i could see attempted abduction.
OP should’ve gotten a restraining order from the first moment he threatened her. His comments were essentially an attempt to kidnap the child.
What about adopting?.. or IVF.. or surrogate pregnancy..
Op, get back to your attorney & let them know what’s going on. Get things in place now to further protect your daughter & yourself.
I’m going to take a stab in the dark & say that the adulteress is infertile. Or your adulterous husband has been snipped & can’t sire any more children.
There may be money on the line if his parents or grandparents have threatened to withhold money/inheritance if he doesn’t bring your daughter around again.
He abandoned her for eight months, that may be enough time to legally get him out of your daughter’s life.
As your daughter gets older you should let her know what a poor excuse of a husband, dad & man he is. & exactly what he did. But be careful because you don’t want to be tried for parental alienation.
Don’t forget to warn every school, teacher, childcare provider, neighbor, friend, dr etc…. that these people are not have contact or info re you or your daughter.
Protect yourself and your daughter from this pair of crazy psychos...Get a Lawyer to make sure Your Daughter from being kidnapped by this pair...They must want your Daughter because She Cant have a child but Wants your Daughter like a Puppy to be Adopted. He abandoned Mandy over 8 months ago....Stand Your Ground and Protect your Daughter......
If you let your ex visit or take daughter without supervision is a Huge NO. They will kidnap your daighter.
A new apartment? She needs a new region to get away from those two
OP’s ex husband is an a hole along with his affair partner new wife, There are lots of single mothers out there and they do a fabulous job and OP is one of them to Sue for that 🤬
He stops visiting and he says she’s the crappy parent 🤬 he doesn’t care about his daughter is only doing it his new wife who is a horrible person, I don’t understand why people don’t get divorced and then be with the person they want to be.
Mandy would have been like Mommy Dearest
Nxt step: they move with the daughter to a new location, change their names and erase OP from the daughter's life, presenting Mandy as her mom.
Does the ex and side piece think the daughter is a doll they can play with, then discard at will? Their attitude is not the sort be suitable to be parents.
What do you wanna bet? They are having problems in their relationship. And they think having the daughter will fix them but they won't.
🤣😂🤣😂 OP should have called the police and gotten a restraining order.
Ex and new wife would have gotten the child over my dead body. How can new wife press charges? These stories are crazy.
Crazy but quite believable. I had a work colleague whose two sons were taken from elementary school by their father (school sued because he was on a no pickup list) and taken to their father's Southeast Asian. She didn't see them for TWENTY YEARS, when they found her through social media after they reached adulthood and were no longer controlled by their dad.
Dad got away with it but can never enter the US without being arrested.
You cannot get up in her face and make such a definite threat, and then came back and try to play victim. HE choose not see his own daughter for a year. I bet she can’t have kids of her own and that’s why she want OPs daughter
When OP stated that Mandy was going to press criminal charges I nearly choked when OP stated what Mandy thought that something she could do that!!! If Mandy wants to be a mom why doesn't she have her own kid! Don't let either of these people near your child!
Someone needs to explain to these two that a child is not a consolation prize.
Put everything he did in the texts, eight months, wife want a daughter how he really doesn't care just want to make his wife happy you can use them in court. Because he's going to use them
Yea they probably planned to take the kid and vanish
Omg ew they're treating op like she was their surrogate or something all of a sudden
Him and his wife must can’t have kids there trying to play house with ur baby
Tough situation, I think it's not ok to keep a father away from their child because of your OWN feelings about the father but I myself would struggle to trust them.
Mandy should take her single momther case straight to the Supreme Court, they'll run it right up the flag pole.
Time to show this child a classic children’s comedy movie, Kindergarden Cop.
And everything was fine.
00:52 Imagine disappearing for months and then demanding full custody like you're picking up a package. Peter, you've got some nerve!
He cheated in front of the daughter and they slready threatened to take her away...nope. sorry sor
However she keeps saying me me me which rubs me the wrong way
@@aliciabearss8136So what? It IS her, alone, while her ex was traipsing off with his now wife. She hasn't brought any random dudes into the daughter's life like Peter has, so the "me" thing isn't a thing.
No judge is going to her ex & his affair partner custody especially after not being in her life, on a regular basis.
Well that is wicked f-d up. What the heck was the ex thinking, letting his mistress spend time with the baby he had with his wife??! Not on the level, man.
Good luck, OP. I think your daughter will be ok because she has you, but it’s guaranteed that they will seek her out when she is older, so be prepared.
Yea, it’s best op tell the daughter in an child friendly way what happened when she is a little older and can better understand the situation
when it comes to child custody you always need to consult your lawyer. You can really screw yourself over if you violate a court order. you need to protect yourself.
Op ex husband is a idiot to let his new wife force him to leave his daughter and op should take her ex husband and his wife to court and get a protective order against them
I would get a protection order, and, if allowed, a CCW permit to carry a handgun along with having a shotgun that's loaded with rock salt, bean bag, or 00 Buckshot shells.
my God. I don't even have words to this..
How about supervise visits at first question
A woman that sits down in the street and throws a tantrum like a toddler wants to raise somebody elses child?? So whose going to raise who? First she commands her husband to stay away from his child and then when she decides " ok, i want children now and realize its to late for her, she just decides to grab somebody elses. Man this woman is tripping. I took your husband so now im back for your daughter😮
Husband new wife is full of Bulls it,she has no parental rights with your child,and it sounds like ex husband lost custody and the the mother has got to call the cops on the Two of them and get a restraining order
Specify every text he hasn't seen her in 8 months and your child is not a new toy for his wife he can use the texts as a way to show he's been trying but your won't let him think theses are for court
Let him only see her through zoom with you right there. If you truly cares for his daughter, you’ll be happy to have any interaction with her but that’s if your daughter wants it unless she’s forced to like in some situations by the court.
What if they skipped out and ran off with the daughter
These idiots do realize that the court ruled for op to have full custody. Any judge would laugh them out of court for pressing those charges because 1 there's alot of single mothers out there that is not grounds for neglect. 2 the guy disappeared for almost a year op didn't telk him to stay away. 3 the fact that he thinks he can just disappear and reappear in is daughter's life and also threaten and guilt trip her mother so he can get his way is absolute BS.
Considering the level of mental instability that the ex and the person whom he cheated with has shown, it’s just a matter of time before they try and grab the kid smart thing to do would be move out of state and only stay in touch with her mom the fewer people that knows where they’re at the safer the daughter will be
My daughter saw her dad 3 day's a week. Then he met a younger woman who hated my daughter and I found out year's later, slapped my daughter face. She was 6 year's old. He sent me a letter via his solicitor he no longer wanted to see her. He twice went to my best friend later begging to see her. I persuaded my daughter and he never came. She's 38 year's old now. She still blames me for getting hurt twice. She was his princess and he had told her he would always be there. He broke her. So for 30 year's She's not seen him ever. No birthday cards or presents. She hates him. Never let him destroy your daughter.
I'd charge the guy with bigamy and send him in prison if its still possible...
Whenever your ex come or phone want to talk always record or make the video. This is necessary to collect evident if there is a problem latter. In this case OP had been threatened and harassed, the evident is enough to file a law suit.
So, for 3 years, he has been teaching your daughter to lie to you about seeing another woman. NTA , you are well out of that relationship. Ask him why he and his new wife don't have their own children and leave yours alone, is she having a problem getting pregnant? That last bit about being too old for having children is a lie. I was 38 when I had my youngest, and had no problems with the birth. If they have a good ob-gyn, there should be no problem.
New wife is probably feeding him those lies. In reality, she doesn’t want to “ruin her body”!
I had twins at 39. She is totally lying. Probably a power play because she wants to own him and he has a tie to his daughter
Then Mandy needs to get a damn puppy or have a baby of her own. Mandy is, in no way, related to OP's LO. The threat of legal involvement, is horrific.
Mandy is going to leave him for a single dad😂
"He'd been cheating for three years before he confessed." How does this help his argument? Did I miss a page in the Parenting Manual that says cheating for a certain number of years makes you a better parent? Tell this guy to go kick rocks.
I'm not done with the story yet. Waiting to see if the real reason the want custody of the kid is that AP can't have a kid of her own. That's why there was no contact for a year. They were trying for one of their own and found out they can't. So now she wants to play mommy to the ready-made kid.
OP is right. The last thing her daughter needs is 'parents' who treat her like a doll rather than a human being. They would abandon her as soon as they find out that parenting is hard work and the needs of the child are more important than them. So many children suffer from parents who drift in and out of their lives leaving them with serious problems for the rest of their lives. Good for OP for taking care of all her daughter's needs.
It depends on the situation of the custodial parent as it’s right to allow their children to see a parent. It’s hard but there’s situations where it’s necessary. It’s cruel but sometimes necessary. Been there with the grandkids.
😂 talk about being delusional. 😅 one look at the email and any judge would take away his parental rights with a 'wtf'. 😂
S1 - This story is certainly not in the U.S. There is no way OP would have that much say in denying the Dad the right to visit his daughter. In fact, I started disbelieving it at the very beginning of the story when OP said the dad only visited under her watchful eye. He is, after all, a parent too. No mention of child abuse or neglect previously.
The second he came back after no contact with daughter for 1 year demanding custody of daughter, first thing to cross my mind was they found out she can't have kids, but after story sounds like she doesn't want to give birth to her own kid, vanity rather than problems women have been giving birth in their 50's long before birth control.
„ you are no good role model for this child.“
*massiv side eye*
„Okay….So you, „ checks notes“ , the one who lied, betrayed, cheated and destroyed a marriage is a way better choice then a hard working single mother?
Damn, there is all hope lost:/„
That was a very good story . Thanks 😊
I be wish there were more updates to this. You know a piece of paper wasn’t going to slow down the Psycho couple.
He blew it in the first 30 seconds of coming back into her life. He should have offered therapy. Kept Mandy out of it. And said he would try and visit more instead of black mailing her. Like just that one statement could have gotten him a restraining order which could have ruined his employeement and tanked any chance with the kid. This guy just keeps adult blowing it with nonsense. He should have kept visiting and in a year he could have expanded his visitation rights. So, many dang options for this guy to rebuild trust but it's like he doesn't see her or his daughter like thinking feeling human beings.
As soon as Peter was back after abandoning his daughter, my first thought was, "the bish can't have kids". And it is so repulsive how he brought that woman into his home, probably into his and Op's bed, and was playing happy family with the daughter.
Unfortunately, this scenario is NOT uncommon. Some details may differ, but as soon as the father gets another gf or wife, he thinks all of a sudden he and gf are better because the single mom (single because HE left) is not good enough.
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So u were willing to walk away from your child until u and your new wife realized her dusty uterus was of no use. So now u want your daughter back as a stand in? Wtf.
Wow, can you say CRAZY, what's with the ex and is AP, the are both nut cases, thank God she moved and got a restraining order. God bless you and your daughter and your parents.
Shout out to the single parents!!
….. he’s right though. Her daughter will ask questions and if by chance the child is more like her father than her mother? Space and distance won’t matter. She’ll seek him out and resent the separation. Even if she knows the circumstances explained in this post. I would know, I am that kid.
Adopt a kid Mandy. Not that hard
Not mentioned her but I'm guessing the real reason Mandy didn't have children wasn't because she was too old but that she was sterile, that's why she was so desperate.Mandy was 39 or 40, some women still have children at that age and older, if she wasn't sterile then it was just too inconvenient for her to take that chance.
Sounds like ex and Mandy might be trying to use the daughter to hurt OP.
I'm so surprised that the affair partner was unable to have a baby of her own /sarc off.
Ok, the husband does not want to be in the mom’s life at all. He is not looking for a relationship with his ex wife. She believes she is part of the new package. And sadly he is not. Momma needs therapy.
I guess it wasn't enough to take this lady's husband, she wanna take the child too. Absolutely insane. OP, get your 2nd Amendment, please. These people are crazy.
OPs reasoning is too self-centred buuut she's not wrong. If they wanted to renegotiate custody coming at her with threats was the absolute dumbest move. He also failed to even maintain visitation. Why didn't he care for such a long time but NOW wants the kid? He's a tool, his #1 priority is his AP, the kid would always come off worse in any conflict just because of that which is NOT parenting. He's a failure.
He’s only back because his new wife wants a child. He doesn’t want her, his wife does! They want OP to just hand over her baby like she’s a discarded toy and give them a chance to be a family, but they want full custody, not 50/50…meaning OP couldn’t see her child. I would tell that witch that her infertility problems were not my problem. She can either adopt or use a surrogate to get her own child. Mine is not up for discussion!
I think that the new wife is infertile. That is probably why the ex-husband came back. Or maybe the new wife wants children without the effort of giving birth.
They don't want ops daughter, they just want a kid. If she wasn't "to old" to have her own kid they wouldn't give ops daughter a second thought. It's entirely possible if op did what they wanted she could have accidentally gotten pregnant and would likely abandon ops kid again
Exactly
Ex that cheated showed up at my divorce and threatened me with court so i had to put him down cause obviously the rabies has gotten to his brain and he was suffering
So, for Mandy's sake, he cheated for 3 years. For Mandy's sake he left her. For Mandy's sake, he stopped visiting his daughter. Now for Mandy's sake, he wants his discarded daughter to fulfill Mandy's fantasy. Not once did he think about his daughter. Mandy is deranged and maybe needs a pet, along with a lot of therapy and some moral guidance. And OP's Ex is a sorry excuse for a man, let alone a father.
He basically said he had come to pick up his daughter to live with new wife because of neglect. What’s stopping him from absconding with her, so make sure you emphasise this one act to your lawyers.
I agree it would have been best for the daughter to have both parents. And even though her father cheated, he cheated on the mother, not the child. Sure.
However: the father did not show any signs of interest in his daughter for nearly a year. So he either just came up with the idea that his daughter needs a dad, or he knew full well he was damaging her and was ok with that.
The one thing more detrimental to the mental health of a child than a parent selfishly abandoning them, is to have that happen multiple times, be that by the same parent, or multiple parental figures.
And if the father is given custody, even if he’s now the perfect father somehow, having to be uprooted and losing her mother, her only parent for a good while, is going to feel like abandonment to the child.
Since he gladly gave up his own daughter, at the request of his wife, only to claim the kid once wifey wanted a family and couldn’t have her first option: a child of her own, It’s only a matter of time before they abandon the child once more, after having cut her off from her mother, because 1) Mandy has a miracle baby, or 2) the daughter takes after her mother too much for their liking.
Mandy has shown to be a bad mother, due to happily robbing the child she claims to love as her own, of a father, after having broken up her home to start with. Her not being a maternal figure to anyone is a blessing.
The only thing op did wrong was threaten to call the police instead of just doing it when the Peter and Mandy showed up to op's home.
Peter sounds like this "I can't believe you're still holding me accountable for the fact I cheated on you for three years! Now you're butthurt my wife and I threatened to take full custody of our daughter. That's so unfair!" He abandoned his daughter for his ex girlfriend. Peter sucks.
I can't believe a guy like this tricked two women into thinking he's relationship material. My first bet is that Peter found out with his wife that she has infertility issues. My second bet is that they need op's daughter to fall in line with their narrative so they can complete the image they're presenting. When cheaters get married to their affair partner they usually have children shortly afterwards as a way to bury the fact they started out their relationship on infidelity and secrecy. They can also weaponise the kids to make anyone who doesn't approve the relationship into putting their feelings aside "for the kids".
"Let us have the family we want for Mandy's sake" for Mandy's sake. This guy gives no craps about his daughter. It's all about Mandy 🙃. Op should have rubbed a middle finger all over Peter's face and told Mandy to go to hell. Take a hint.
Why the hell would he not do that heartfelt explanation about connecting with his daughter instead of leading with "I'm going to sue for full custody because you're a shit mother." ?
God what a pos, threats didn't work so now he tryed a sob story and "poor me", custody has already been decided and he chose not to continue with visitation for almost a whole freaking year.
100% one or both of them are infertile and with their selfish mindset it's all about what they want and nothing to do with what's best for the child
OK, whose decisions deprived the daughter of a father? Isn't keeping someone from leaving their home technically kidnapping? What charges was the homewrecker thinking of pressing? Two deluded people trying to scratch their way up to ''happy normal life'' no matter who they hurt.
They went about it in exactly the wrong way, but his infidelity should have no bearing on whether or not he should be an equal part of his daughter's life. This mom's need to punish her ex regardless of whether or not her daughter suffers because of it is sickening. The fact that 50/50 isnt the default for custody is a profound injustice, but feminists arent interested in using their control of the courts to actually fight for whats equal, they want female advantage even if it means children suffer for it.
I feel like theres more to this story being left out. It kind of sounds like a case of parental alienation. She talks more about herself amd how she was screwed over and they ruined her life and its her daughter. Nothing about her daughters well beimg it was all about OP. It sounds like this man is desperately trying to get some parental ights back and has reached a breaking point. Coming from someone who grew up with a posessive mom and was alienated from my father, the way op talks just remimds my of stuff my mom would say. Unless this is a case of abuse from dad and step mom, which doesmt seem to be the case, OP is definitely the a-hole
Kiss?
maybe she can't have kids
There's alot strange and/or missing from this story.
What custody battle? It doesn't sound like the dad pursued anything during the divorce, joint is only mentioned later, when she starts calling it a battle.
Why were the dad's visits supervised? And by the OP, no less.
Supervised visitation is usually ordered if the parent has a history of violence, substance abuse, unstable living conditions...things that actually might harm the child. Not because they were a crappy spouse. And the supervisor is usually a social worker or similar.
Custody decisions are definitely influenced by work schedules and living arrangements, but I don't think cheating on the spouse has a lot of bearing these days, no matter how badly that sucks.
The dad and stepmom are delusional. He's not going to just make false accusations and get custody, especially after being MIA for 8 months.
I don't know where they live, but I don't recommend that the OP try to deny visitation based on that 8 months either. Only the court can terminate visitation rights against the non-custodial parent's wishes.