Solar Panel Systems for Beginners - Pt 2 Hybrid Systems & Multiple Loads
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- In this second video I will answer some questions from subscribers about using off-grid and inverters/grid-tie and then how to use multiple loads with a solar panel system. This video series covers the basics of setting up a solar panel system and get started using alternative energy. #hybridsolar #solarforbeginners #easysolar #solarguide
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This is a good tutorial video, has helped me as a beginner to start understanding solar as i wish to adapt solar into my camper.
Great man. An excellent and clear demonstration for understanding solar energy usage for beginners like me. Thanks very much hope more and more video as raised by FAQ.
Appreciate you breaking it down for me. I plan to start small and hope to get some experience and confidence to get bigger solar use for my place. Millenniums around the corner man!
Thank you for explaining this. I'm planning to get a small solar system set up to start offloading electrical costs from the grid. These videos are great.
You are welcome. Thanks for the support and for watching!
You sound like George Clooney. Thank You for the information.
3rd axis Haha, you are welcome. Thanks for watching!
Thank you! I've been thinking about building a small solar generator, and your videos explain everything in such a clear and concise way.
Great, I am glad I could help. I am also building a generator. Check out this video series and it might help you in your build: th-cam.com/play/PLbKwoGlXEWaqgIzm4xGjYeRA0jf2_HH4j.html
Great vid! Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge.
solar flared No problem! Thank you so much for watching and commenting.
Thanks you teacher... Now i totally understand... Now i can build just a begjnner...
very good for learners like me and u have a lucid way of explaining.
I appreciate that! Thanks for the kind words and for watching the video.
thanks for sharing this... i am new in owning solar panels and i got only little idea on how it works i need more research to do but thanks to your video im solve..
+Samantha Darwin You are welcome. Thanks for watching and good luck! Be sure to thumbs up the video if you haven't already to help me out.
Enjoy the video's so far it's definitely intrigued me into looking at this more
Thanks! I am glad you are interested in it. I really enjoy playing with this stuff and learning more about the capabilities and limitations.
Thanks for this great video.
Thank you for the information and what kind of battery should you use in a solar setup?
Thx I am learning something new
Awesome! That is my goal.
I liked how you dumbed down the basic solar panel. What can you tell me about having a panel with a battery. I have a camper that has a battery that charges through my car while I'm driving. I want to add a solar panel for when I'm not driving. I operate lights, 2 small fans, and a coffee pot! Thanks in advance. You're awesome.
That is a great question. You don't need much: solar panel, charge controller, and wiring. When you stop at a campground to camp you would disconnect the cable that connects the battery to the camper alternator (which charges it while you drive). Then you can attach the wires to the battery and those would attach to the "load" or output connectors on the charge controller. Then use the rest of the wiring to connect the solar panel to the charge controller at the appropriate connectors for the input or "solar" side. You will want the wires to be as thick as you think you can get away with so that you don't lose any voltage through the wires. If you mount the panel to the top of the camper, make sure you can swivel it to face the sun as it will obviously be different each time you camp. If you don't want to permanently mount the panel to the camper, you could build a small wooden mount with some spare 2x4's or something that would sit on the ground and hold the panel toward the sun.
If that is too basic for you and you have more specific questions, fire away!
you are awsome you made that soo easy to understand great job at dumbing it down lol!!!!
+Sheila Davis Thanks! I appreciate that. Thanks for watching.
simple, clear and informative. Thanks
You are welcome. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for your explanation and your time, that's really help a lot, best of luck
No problem. Keep watching and I'll keep posting.
Thank you for putting this up. it's easy to follow step by step. Cheers :o)
+Mr Watson You are welcome! I appreciate the feedback. Thanks for watching.
Good job.👍
Love your explanation .
Thank you.
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Thanks my friend. Well done!
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Your video is very helpful, thanks and more power!
You are welcome! Thanks for watching and for the support.
awesome info thanks. I'm really trying to learn about solar. Going to watch the rest of the videos - peace.
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YOU ~ ROCK ! !
Really appreciate your videos. Cheers
Hey, thanks! Glad they are helping you.
Hi Thanks for the advice re step up transformer.
Keep up the good work-I'm learning heaps.
Paul
You are welcome! Keep asking questions and I will keep answering if I can.
Thank you for sharing bro!
Joseph P You are welcome. Thanks for watching!
Thank you so much, that explain perfect the method I need to use, you are awesome, thanks again
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Enjoying your videos.
Thanks! I appreciate that. Hopefully you will find them helpful.
What do I need in order to power a small 12v frig?
Just came across your video. Where did you purchase your load center?
well explained man, its cool!
Thanks!
@6:40 YES make sure you use AC rated stuff for AC & DC Rated stuff for DC ONLY.
If there was a fire for any reason and they discover that your electrical system is not up to code during the investigation, insurance WILL NOT cover you.
Then you're technically not insured and that's a whole nightmare.
This is a good video! I have couple questions. Why did you use Anderson connectors instead MC4 connectors? Do we have to use more than one load? Is the power more efficient dividing the load? What about if I need more USB ports how can I add them to it?
Thanks
I so much love your video. Please, I picked an interest in the small inverter you showed in your video. I would like to know it name, capacity and how I can procure one. Thanks a lot
instead of running the load center from the charge control could you just run a board of switches from the charge control with the switched piggy backed off each other? and each switch running to a different appliance?
If I understand you correctly you are talking about having a wire come
from the charge controller to a switch and then a load and then another
switch and another load, etc.? Basically that would put multiple loads
in series like the way your house is wired? Yes, that would work but
you would only have limited control over switching each load on and off.
Thanks, helped me a lot!
+Norman Taylor You are welcome. Thanks for watching!
Could you also run your wires from the battery directly to the load center? Why or why not? TIA
Yes you could. There are tradeoffs. More advanced users will definitely do that. But newbies won't have any kind of protection for the batteries (unless they are lithium with a BMS). So keep that in mind.
Is there no need to terminate a ground from the bus bar inside the load center/ breaker box?
As long as the negative goes back to the battery and the system is below about 1000 Watts you should be safe. Above that point on a 12V system and you will need some extra safety with grounding the inverter.
Could you do a video on how to connect dimmers or a gas pedal.
+YouNeedMyProductions A dimmer is just a switch with a variable resistor but I think I could play with one of those in a video sometime. Not sure what I would do with a gas pedal. Did you have something in mind?
+LDSreliance well, I had the idea of a solar powered go kart (because I have a lot of frames in my families yard). So I already thought of how I could wire it, but then I remembered the gas pedal. I had no idea how to do that, so I thought maybe you could do a video on it or have an answer.
YouNeedMyProductions
The gas pedal could be attached to a potentiometer (like a volume knob) that controls how much electricity flows. That should be fairly easy to do. I believe they make pedal kits for electric karts that would have all that built in.
Hello, Thank you very much for posting. Your videos are simple, easy to understand and well explained. I would like some insight on something please. What would be the best way to take care of a battery ?
It depends on the type of battery. The battery I show in this video is a sealed lead acid battery which means you don't need to add water or worry about it tipping over. But you would still need to keep it away from extremes in temperature. The colder a battery gets the less it can do its job. So keeping it insulated and warm in the winter.
Thank you very much
Linda Tseng You are welcome. Thanks for watching!
I saw the new video. Great explanation, wow thank you so much
You should open a blog!
I will post you the video of my project when done, so you can give me advice and idea.
The panel 50w is about 3 to 4 Ah\ so a battery should be full charged in About 10h. The load is gonna work pretty much on evening (daytime no body at home) so I think enough time to charge the battery. Yes the load pretty much is gonna be a led lamp for the all the system box, two pc fan to reduce the heat, then in the house on DVD player about 15 watt and two iPhone charger and one regular lamp for the room, for outside one 12dc led lamp.
Box led and pic fans they gonna have a switch on off so they will work when I need, without consuming the battery.
I like your way to set up is clean and fine, just I think there is something I can't fix, I was thinking to have the external lamp set as solar sensor( just work when no sun) and the inverter on demand when I need power inside house, but in this setup the inverter is gonna work just when there is no sun.
What about put a relet on the inverter that is gonna switch on battery when there is not power from the light output?
Thank you so much, really appreciate your advice
What about a rele reed?
If I were you, I would make a 2nd system instead of trying to switch things on and off. You will spend just as much money on relays and sensors and extra wiring plus have more stress trying to figure out how to make it all work with one system. Go get a 10w solar panel (www.solarblvd.com/product_info.php?cPath=1_25_39&products_id=2892) and a cheap lighting charge controller (www.amazon.com/ECO-WORTHY-Charge-Controller-Regulator-Control/dp/B00OH8QVKY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1424534406&sr=8-2&keywords=solar+light+controller) along with a 8ah battery and hook it to the outside LED lamp.
Then you can keep the 50w panel and other batteries for your inside system. I have 2 separate systems similar to this. One 20w panel system powers my shed lights and I have 600 watts of panels powering my indoor system. I really think you are going to need at least 100w for your indoor system but you can try it out first and see. The reason I think that is because cloudy days in the summer or winter days with less sunlight may not fully recharge your batteries and you may run out of power after a few days.
the inverter, the fan and the cell was connect to the red? or to what wire ? so you werent specific so thanks
All of the DC devices must be connected to the red (positive) and black (negative) wires. So the inverter and fan are connected that way to the battery. The solar panel must be connected with red and black to the charge controller. And the charge controller must be connected red and black to the battery.
Question: If two panels of different ampere and watts are connected/joined together to the pwm. Does it work all the same or is it not advisable. They also give different output voltages.
That is not advisable. Depending on the charge controller it will either not work at all or it will consider them both the same size (the bigger panel will shrink down to the size of the smaller panel as far as production). Since pwm charge controllers are so cheap, I would just grab another $12 charge controller like I link to in the video description and run each panel off of a separate controller and then to the battery. That will open up a different set of problems but at least you have a chance at getting full production.
how would I hook up all of my solar panels to one battery?
I have a device which uses 120watts power . Please what are the minimum set up i need for the device to power for at least 24 hours?
Thank you LDSreliance,on ur pt1-vid,most off all for keeping it simple,1step at a time approach,for us beginners to understand.Ur vid confirms for me,that i can use a solar panel to charge the 12v deep cycle battery used to power the trolling motor.Now that seems like fair enuff,but then other Qs comes up.Im setback,coz lack of specifics on my particular system application.Was wondering if u cud help me with sum diy advice.(1) size of solar panel,(2) charge controller type to efficiently charge the (3) single 12v deep cycle car battery used to power the,(4) trolling motor.
A car battery does not deep cycle so it only needs a trickle of power to recharge. You need about 2 amps to charge the battery so that would mean you would want a 30 watt panel at least. Just get a cheap pwm charge controller as they will get the job done and won't break the bank.
Am wanting to install an electric wall heater for an added mud room and use a solar unit to power the heater to keep the electric bill down. If the heater is 1500W, 115V with thermostatic control, would a 50W monocrystalline solar panel do the trick? And can the panel be hung just inside a window or does it need to be outside? Would the who setup consist of an inverter, battery and what else? Thanks for directing me in this.
+Karen Barton Good questions. Unfortunately, I think you answered your own question in your second sentence: can a 50w source power a 1500w load? You will need a MUCH larger system to power a heater like that. 50 watts is about how much a small laptop uses. Heater, refrigerators, hair dryers, microwaves, and air conditioners all consume massive amounts of electricity and require large battery banks and many solar panels to operate. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
But to answer your other questions, solar panels need direct access to sunlight and cannot be used indoors. Yes you would need an inverter, batteries, solar panels, a charge controller, lots of wire, and fuses and/or breakers.
+Karen Barton
Well resistive heaters aren't fussy, they will take those 50W just the same but it obviously can't give out more then 50W of heat (which is about what comes off a small light bulb).
For heating you are far better off with solar heating panels, far simpler/cheaper and you get 90% or more heat from that sunlight.
Do you need fuses?
why all people always use bigger battery than you use? which type you recomended to me?
+Nobilis Project I did a whole video on this. You can watch it here: th-cam.com/video/wFk-kpDj0r0/w-d-xo.html
Could you just attach the inverter to the battery instead of attaching it to the load? Would it make a difference ?
Yes, you can. The only difference will be that your inverter will drain your batteries down to its low limit threshold and possibly damage the battery depending on what type of battery it is. The load side of the charge controller will disconnect the power at a safe level to protect the battery.
@@LDSreliance I'm a bit confused here (maybe a lot). My RV set up is 300 watts on the roof feeding into a 40amp MPPT controller to 4 6V AGMs (400ahs). My 1500 watt inverter is connected to the batteries with #4 cables for a 8 ft run. Here's my confusion; If I understand you correctly, I can run my 1500 watt inverter directly from the controller load connectors. Wouldn't the #12 gauge wires from the controller to the inverter be too small? My inverter instructions called for #4 cable for my run. Thanks for your time and knowledge.
Hi, with a cross over (male-male) power cord, could you plug this into a homes wall socket, to feed into a house? and potentially if no one is home, could it power the items that are always on, like refrigerator, and microwave, and clocks, etc? Or is there additional components needed for a back feed?
Here is the PC, legal, covering my butt answer. Don't ever do that! It is illegal, highly dangerous, and could cost you millions in damages.
The real answer is yes you can. The reason it is illegal and dangerous is because the power you are feeding into the grid is not known to the power company and, in a power outage situation, can hurt a lineman working to repair the lines. They will think the line is dead but you might be feeding power into the grid. To get around that, if you were going to use a device like this you would have to isolate that circuit that you are plugged into OR your entire house from the grid. You can do that with an interlock kit on your breaker box or a manual transfer switch.
The other reason it is dangerous is because the male prongs of the power cord are "live" and transmitting power. Normally, for safety, only female plugs are live. That way you can't accidentally touch something and send electricity through you or an object. So you would have to keep that in mind when you are plugging and unplugging such a device. They are called "suicide cords" for a reason.
I'm new to this, so the fan is a DC fan that runs off dc load center, is that correct? All the regular household appliances need to run off from the inverter?
Yes, that is correct. The fan was a demonstration of a load. In this case that is a DC powered fan. But most devices in your house will be powered by AC so they will need to connect to an inverter.
is it safe to use a 100 watt solar panel with a 12 volt 10 ah battery??? THank you so much
hey I have a question.. I am making a solar powered multicopter so Can I charged my battery and on the same time can I power my drone with that solar panel...so that I can use my battery when there is no sunlight.
And my solarpanel when there is sunlight
Hi, Can I use this setup (12V battery & MWP charge controller) to run a CCTV camera (12V 2A) off grid?
Thanks for your videos, very informative. Have a mobile scooter which uses a round 3 plug for charger. Wish to trickle charge while driving scooter, by using small solar panel. It has cigarette lighter fitting. Can I just remove that and replace with a 3 pin plug (such as on adapters) without damaging existing system.
William Palmisano So let me understand. The 3 prong plug charges the batteries with AC power from your house when you are not using the scooter. But it also has a 12v car cigarette lighter adapter so you can connect an accessory while you are driving around? If that is the case you should be able to charge the battery through that cigarette adapter.
thanks for your prompt reply.Yes re the 3 prong. The cig lighter adapter is attached to a solar panel. Since contacting you have sourced an adapter which I hope will do the trick , will let you know.
William Palmisano OK, let me know if you have further questions. Good luck!
Hello and thank you for making sense of this , I would like to run a 12v dc small motor on sunny days, the motor current is 35amp and 6 rpm .Can I connect motor directly to panel and, what size panel would I need ?
+euniversal1 You are welcome. Thanks for watching!
35a x 12v = 420 watts so that is a lot of power needed. Unfortunately, there is no solar panel that big so you would need multiple panels. In my experience, motors like that usually need a big surge of power to start up, also, so having batteries or a large capacitor would probably be required to store enough energy to start the motor up. I'm afraid I would recommend a full off-grid solar panel system for this application. If you tell me where you live and exactly how many hours per day you would run this device I can tell you how big of a system you will need.
If I only wanted to power items using AC (via a converter), would I need the load centre? Can the inverter just be directly wired to the charge controller? Thanks in advance :)
The inverter can be directly wired to the charge controller OR the battery(s). The load center is simply to route power to multiple places.
please what will you recommend for me.....In my country, grid supply is highly unreliable.... I need to run a water pump 24/7 for my aquaponics system and still have lights on. i want to use the grid when is on and my solar when grid is off
+Robert Fredericks Mensah I need to know the power requirements of the pump. How many hours per day you will run it, how much power it consumes, where you live, etc.
where could i buy one of these breaker boxes?
You can get them from Home Depot, Lowes, or any electrical supply store. I would advise getting a QO series by Schneider Electric as they are rated for DC usage.
Hello!
Can set up the Power Inverter before the Load Center? I mean after the Charge Controller. Thank you!
+Feliz Movie Maker Yes but then you would have to set it up as an AC load center and that is more complicated and would require a licensed electrician.
Hi for my final year project im suppose to make a battery charger which can be carged using both Solar and DC input. Any advices on that ?. And amazing work thank you so much
+Rajitha wickramasinghe Solar is DC so I am not sure I understand. Do you mean AC?
Yes I want to charge a battery using both solar and ac . Is it possible to do that
Rajitha wickramasinghe
Yes but you would need to convert the AC power (from your house I assume) to DC power. You will need about 14.5-15v in order to charge a 12v battery. The simplest way to do that is to get a battery trickle charger that is designed for that. If that is too easy or not allowed in your project, you can hack a computer power supply and combine the +12v rail with the 3.3v rails to produce enough voltage to charge a battery. I shot a video showing how to hack a power supply: th-cam.com/video/M4TFVhCg6sk/w-d-xo.html
Great videos. I have a small solar panel on my boat to charge my battery and was wondering if I could hook up my12 volt radio directly to the solar panel as well without a charge controller?
No, 12v solar panels actually produce 17-18v so you will probably damage any 12v devices that you hook directly to them. You pretty much always need a charge controller, even if it is just a cheapo one.
Thanks again. You probably saved me a lot of greaf and money. Keep the great info coming.
Andy
Andy St. Michael Will do. Thanks!
I saw these solar panels on eBay. Can you tell me the difference between them please other than the watts? Is it better to get the most watts that I can find?
10 Watt 12V Polycrystalline Cells Solar Panel Poly Solar Module Battery Charger $30.30 and
ALEKO 15W Monocrystalline Solar Panel 12 Volt Output $42.29 I am looking to keep my batteries charged up on my pontoon boat when not in use. Maybe 5-6 days days unattended.
Mono is better if you can afford it. They are more efficient and are less affected by shading or low light and high heat. But there is usually about a 20% price premium.
i want their links in the discription to buy
the stuff
10W Solar Panel (exact same ones I have):
www.solarblvd.com/product_info.php?cPath=1_269&products_id=2891
Charge Controller (similar to what I have used; cheap and has good reviews):
www.amazon.com/Docooler-Controller-Battery-Regulator-Protection/dp/B00JKDZVRU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1421280499&sr=8-2&keywords=charge+controller
8ah Battery (exact same ones I have):
www.amazon.com/UPG-UB1280I-Sealed-Lead-Batteries/dp/B0009GIKNE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1421280557&sr=8-1&keywords=8ah+battery
You can use any kind of copper wire you want, but in case you need to order some (one link is for red and one is for black):
www.amazon.com/Grand-General-55241-14-Gauge-Primary/dp/B00INVEUP4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1421280614&sr=8-1&keywords=14+gauge+wire
www.amazon.com/Grand-General-55240-14-Gauge-Primary/dp/B00INVEUNQ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1421280649&sr=8-3&keywords=14+gauge+wire
For the combiner box, watch the 3rd video in the series to see how I made it. You cannot order it ready to go.
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Hello i really enjoyed your videos i'm considering starting my own project would it be possible to do a video on how you made your power distribution center? iv'e found the boards online but they have no trip switches etc sorry to be a pain.
Regards
Adam
Not a pain at all. This should get you started: th-cam.com/video/UG2pbErPKi8/w-d-xo.html
what about if you want to mix it? like to have solar with wind, or other type of system?
+Capelap Capela You can do that for sure. But it is more like having 2 separate systems that both charge the same batteries. That is because I have not seen a charge controller that can handle both at the same time. Usually you have to get a charge controller that is designed for wind and a charge controller that is designed for solar. They would both connect to the battery bank and both would charge the batteries. Or you could have separate batteries for each system and just have them both connect to the same inverter in parallel.
+LDSreliance thanks for your reply, it was the thing i thought,
What about if you connect the CHARGER CONTROLLER mix with wind and solar panel or other type of energy provider before it go to batteries?
could you do another video explaining this?
Capelap Capela
You are welcome! Thanks for watching.
Hi, I just found your videos. This one answered a question and brought up another one. Can I tie into the existing load box (in my RV) with out disconnecting the current source that is connected to a 110 outlet? So my load box currently gets it supply from a 110 connection - not a 30amp plug like most. Thanks
I'm not sure exactly what you are asking. Can you clarify?
@@LDSreliance I have a load box in my RV. Connect to a 110 chord to plug into RV hookups. Can I tie into this load box with my Solar power for when I don't have the option of RV hookups? Does that make sense? Thanks
Yes, you can do that but you cannot have both attached at the same time. Your original question said "without disconnecting the current source" and that confused me. If you have shore power available, use that. The solar panel system can be charging its batteries and waiting on standby. But if you are boondocking without a shore power option the solar can be switched on to provide power to your existing system.
@@LDSreliance Thank you. I should have watched more videos first. I did see a couple more,
No problem. I have over 100 solar related videos on my channel. Take your time and absorb as much as you can before you spend any money.
this system can connected to the home electrical network or should separated.thanks
Off grid needs to be separated from the home electrical system.
sir. can you use your solar panel for 1horse power water pump?
The small one in this video? No, sorry. A 1 horsepower pump requires approximately 1000 running Watts and even higher than that to start it up. Unfortunately, you will need a large solar panel system to run a pump like that especially if it runs many hours a day.
Hi, my concern is I have an inverter that charges automatically the batteries (2) when I connect the inverter to AC current (I do not need a battery charger separately) so I want to use both the inverter and the solar panel to charge my batteries how do I make the wiring please?
I don't see any way you can use such a device the way you are trying to use it. An inverter will accept 12V DC power and convert it to 120V AC power (or 220V AC). It sounds like yours can also convert back from 120V AC to 12V DC to charge a battery. So unless there is a third connection point on the inverter that allows 12V DC input from a solar panel you can't make it work.
Can I run a 12v digital timer off my battery to run a 12v pond aerator? Do I just need panel, charge controller, battery and timer?
Yes you can. That would be pretty easy to do. You would need to know the power consumption requirements (how much current is used to power the timer around the clock? how much current does the aerator use when it is running and how many hours per day does it run?) to be able to properly size a solar panel and battery to meet your needs.
The aerator I was looking at was 35w. At 12v I guess that is almost 3amps? My battery is like 120ah+ and I was previously using it to run a trolling motor which I know can draw A LOT more juice than the pump ever will. Also I only plan on running the aerator for 5-6 hours in the very early morning hours when it is cool. It sounds like I may not need too much panel to keep the battery charged? Pretty sure the timer draws next to nothing.
SleepyG_ So lets say the timer draws 0.25 amps and the aerator draws 3 amps and runs 5 hours per day and you are averaging 4.5 sun hours per day. Your battery will be just fine to run all that but you will need a minimum of a 130 watt solar panel to keep it charged up with 1 day's worth of energy.
Thanks, I really appreciate the help. I am starting to figure out how to do these calculations a bit. Sounds like I probably want 200w of panels to be safe. I may even decide to run the pump longer in some conditions. My last question would be if there is a way to have the panels directly power the pump during sunlight but automatically switch to battery when needed? That one might be tough....
SleepyG_ You are welcome. I don't understand your question. That is already basically what will happen during the day is that the power from the charge controller will come from the solar panel and the battery will only charge from the excess leftover power. So if you had a 130 watt solar panel and a 35 watt load then you would get roughly 95 going into the battery instead of the full 130.
Can i put on the load the inverter?
+angelwhooo Yes, of course. You would plug in your loads to the inverter if they need AC power. If they need DC power, you can just plug it in to the charge controller load output.
how long (in feet) can the wires run?
Depends on the size of the wire (the gauge). The thicker the wire (lower the gauge) the longer it can be before you start losing power.
Hi LDS, thanks for making videos. would you be able to help? I'm not sure what I'm missing. I've been playing with a 20 watt solar panel. using a 12 v charge controller, and a 6v12aH battery.(that looks similar to yours in this video) Wanting to only charge a set of LED string lights. The first day of charging the panel got just over 3 hrs of clear sky sunshine. LED's stayed on from 730pm -330am. but the following nights, after longer charging times, the lights were much more dim & didn't light up the room at all. Don't know if you can tell what's wrong from that discription. Any help at all if you have time would be great. thank you.
So your battery is a 6v battery? Do you have two of them connected in series? You need to have a 12v battery or 12v battery bank (two 6v batteries connected in series) to take a charge from a 12v solar panel and 12v charge controller.
What are the power requirements of the LED string lights?
Ok, thank you so much, unsure about the power requirement of the lights. They are small LED's, around 20' long. Connected to a solar panel that fit in the palm of your hand. (it stopped working). peace
keshava ishaya
So the LED strip was solar powered when you bought it? Then it only worked when the sun was out, correct?
on the original design, it had two AA batteries, and the gizmo that tells it when there is no sunlight. then the lights would come on.But that old garden solar panel stopped working.
What i'm aiming at,(iwith the new solar panel) is unhooking the battery from the solar panel after its charged, then hooking it up the string lights. Bought a 12v battery. Just need to find a 12v controller now. many online ones. The lights will be in a room seperate from the solar panel and charger. So ill just move the battery, hook up the lights when needed.
keshava ishaya
OK, there are still some things confusing me. 2 AA batteries would equal 3v. So you won't be able to just hook up a 12v battery to the lights directly. You would have to have a voltage converter to lower the voltage to a safe level for the lights.
do you have to have a load hooked up to the charge controller i just want a solar panel to charge my battery
Nope, not at all. That will work just fine!
hi, i have a question for my project
if I combined with solar and PC powersupply can it work or not?
using the same method that you use
You could combine both power sources but that would not be something I would recommend a beginner doing. I would not feel comfortable directing you to do something like that because you could hurt yourself or damage your equipment if you do it wrong. I would recommend just sticking to solar with this kind of setup.
is it possible to connect a sewing machine with solar power energy?
Of course! The average sewing machine only uses about 100 watts so that should be easily powered by a modest size solar panel system.
I might get hired selling solar. Is it possible for me to bring these equipment to a demonstrate to a customer showing them how it work. Would that up my chance for them to buy solar from the company I work for. Where would I purchase these equipment the ones your showing in this video thank you
It might. But your typical person doesn't care how it works. They just want to know that it will save them money or save the planet or whatever. Chances are if they really cared how it works they would do it themselves.
But if you want to get some equipment like I showed in the video, you can go to my amazon store page for my 20W kit: www.amazon.com/shop/ldsreliance?listId=CBDE4076V0RJ&ref=cm_sw_em_r_inf_list_own_ldsreliance_dp_p3BrL6cd74kZe
You would also need an inverter for the demonstration such as: amzn.to/3fXf1jQ
@@LDSreliance Thanks you kind sir
No problem. Good luck!
P.S. - I am about to do a video on dishonest solar companies/salespeople so stay tuned for that and be sure not to make these mistakes!
@@LDSreliance Im notified for your new videos thank you sir
Hope that new video helped you!
Can u do a parts list .. in the comments an thts cool man
I have a parts list in the kit.com link in the video description.
How to charge 12 Volt battery by using Solar panel ?
+Muhammad Bilal khan Did you watch the videos? It shows you how.
+LDSreliance If the solar panel of 12 volt directly connected to the 12 volt battery that battery will charging? Why charge controller is used?
Muhammad Bilal khan
Yes it will charge the battery but it will also overcharge the battery and potentially start a fire or destroy the battery. A charge controller will properly charge the battery and then switch to "float" mode which is a trickle charge that matches the natural discharge of the battery. I would never connect a solar panel directly to the battery unless there was no other option.
can I use 5w panel??
Yes
Do you know of ready to buy kits like this
civic2323 I am sure there are some out there. I have thought about putting one together and selling it. Or I can just send you links to the components and you can buy them retail and put it together.
LDSreliance Could you send me the links the the components or put them in the video description? Thanks
James D I bought that 10 watt solar panel from Solar Blvd (www.solarblvd.com/Solar-Panels-&-Systems-12-Volt-Solar-Panels/c1_269/index.html). I got the charge controller cheap from Amazon (there are numerous brands and knock-offs but I don't remember which brand this one was). I also got the battery from Amazon (www.amazon.com/ExpertPower%C2%AE-Rechargeable-Sealed-Battery-BLMFM12_7/dp/B003S1RQ2S/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1415546997&sr=8-2&keywords=12v+sealed+battery).
Thanks
Can you use a car battery
Yes but you will destroy it quickly. Car batteries are meant to provide a lot of amps for a short period of time (5 seconds or so to start a car). This doesn't drain the voltage very much and then they get recharged as you drive. Deep cycle batteries can't provide those high amps but instead they are like distance runners that are designed to be able to provide lower amps for hours and hours instead of high amps for a few seconds. They can handle the repeated low draining of the voltage and then recharging over and over. Car batteries can't.
So if you want to practice with an old car battery that you don't mind if it dies that would be fine because they are more plentiful and easier to find than deep cycle batteries and most people end up killing their first battery whatever it is as they learn how solar works.
Where is your Ground wire?
The systems grounds to the battery. An earth ground is not required for the system to function.
My charge control alarm sounds all the time.
Did you connect it in the right order? Usually charge controllers want the battery connected first before you connect the solar panels.
yes a little more slow in wires connection please, thanks
can I use car battery
You can but I don't recommend it. Car batteries are like sprinters... they are designed to provide a short burst of power. What you want is a marathon runner (deep cycle battery) which is designed to provide a moderate or small amount of power for a long period of time. If you run a car battery just make sure you don't discharge it more than 10%.
LDSreliance thanks
KHALOOD - You are welcome. Thanks for watching!
You probably know this already but, the inverter is not that effective for charging 5v stuff like the phone. I would rather put a regulator or 12v car charger, or similar, directly in the box :)
+Mikael Hermansson Yep. It is inefficient to invert to AC and then back to DC. But for a 1 amp draw @ 5v it really isn't a big deal. If you can keep it DC great. If not, you are losing maybe 1 watt in the process.
इस सिस्टम का प्राइस क्या है सर
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How can I Design a Hybrid Power controller with below description
Description:
Low power consumption
Remote control using Mobile APP
NET metering Enable
Soft start concept must be adopted to increase the life of the battery or another concept to visualise the performance.
Input sources: Source1, Source2, Source3, Source4
Source1-Solar power
Source2-Grid Electricity
Source3-Battery Backup
Source4-Generator
Output: One source selected from available input sources based on selection Algorithm.
Among available power sources, the user can set the priority of sources for consumption.
I'm not sure what you are asking. I am not a product designer or electrical engineer. So I can't help you develop a new product.
i want to learn from you on how to make solar power ,and maybe in the future it can be a business
michael salcedo Sure, there are lots of business opportunities in solar and wind power right now. What else do you want to know about solar?
Dude - this is the first beginners video that explained the basics (a live, explained diagram) effectively. Simple, slow, concise, visually able to be absorbed, demonstrating minimal systems then allowing the system to grow without confusing us. CanNOT thank you enough for this - good service on your part.
+Sid Vicious I appreciate that! Before I got into solar I also tried to watch some videos and came away confused and frustrated. So I wanted to put something out there that was simple and used actual components to demonstrate how it works instead of a drawing.
Just want to say thanks for the videos. I've been thinking about making a tiny home/man cave for my nephew. I like the idea of the switch to chose between immediate power from the panel or flipping a switch to take from the charged battery. It'd be great as a night time back up if he needed to escape for a few hours. You've really given me hope that I might be able to pull this off without burning something down. :D
Stitched Wicked DC electricity is not as dangerous as AC, especially at such low voltage. Start with a simple system like this and play around with it and use it for something small. You will learn a lot and avoid a ton of mistakes later on that would cost you much more than this simple setup costs.
thanks great vid for beginner like me
This video just answered my question... On how to directly hook up an inverter to the charger controller load... So I can have the controller timer turn the inverter on and off... Its for heat lamps in a chicken coop... Thank you.. #MuchLove...
You are welcome! Thanks for watching.
What’s happens when u have more than one double breaker
So i looked up a bunch of solar panel videos, and you are literally the only one i've found so far that i can actually move forward with and do on my own after watching your videos.
Awesome! I am glad they helped you out so much. I have dozens of solar videos so be sure to check out the rest.
Is possible that I can use this method for my 5 aquarium and if so how can I know what solar and batteries I need to use can I get help please.
Yes you can use solar for almost any energy need. Start by checking out one of these kits: kit.com/LDSreliance
How do you hook up multiple solar panels to the power control