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I wanna share here this video where a therapist and a filmmaker analyze Non-toxic masculinity through the character of Aragorn. The psychologist says he doesn’t like the term “toxic masculinity”, he prefers “limiting masculinity”. It fits perfectly with this episode. Link: th-cam.com/video/pv_KAnY5XNQ/w-d-xo.html Thank you, Dive for all the work you do. GET REAL is a need in my life now. The topics you guys speak about definitely _need_ to be shout out. I also appreciate the sense of communication “with friends” and familiarity you’ve built through all these conversations. THANK YOU 🙏🏼❤️
I agree! I grew up seeing my older brother treat his wife with such respect and love that it really raised the bar up high for my standards. Especially since he was physically really strong but also found being vulnerable to be a man's biggest strength.
True words. If you KNOW without a doubt you'll be loyal, humble, provider, and face what's required of the wedding oath for her you've got yourself a good foundation!
"start with a handshake" is actually great advice. As a woman, I feel more comfortable if a guy gives me a handshake when we meet for the first time. In my country, it´s also common to greet each other with cheek to cheek greeting. Some men might use it as advantage, but mostly it shows that they were raised good by their parents. But handshake is definitely the best way.
Agreed with the handshakes, with direct friendly and respectful eye contact. I hate when guys are shy and awkward with women because they've never been around them much. I'm from Chile and when we greet people, regardless of gender, we shake hands. Only when we know each other do we kiss once on the cheek. I think this is something that just Chile does, it seems to be different from other Latino countries.
It’s interesting to hear about what people from other cultures feel is the most comfortable way of greeting. Coming from an East Asian country, I feel like non-physical greetings are the most natural and comfortable for me. Unless I’m at a business conference or something of that nature, I won’t default to shaking hands
@@abug- nearly every original member left 24k besides changsun (who wasn't an original member either but he was the only one left + kiyong who was added shortly before the other members left) and now there's another 3 new members added. So 5 in total. They go under the group name 24k also but kinda rebranded with new logo and stuff.
This convo was great. The respect they have for strong independent women and single moms. Feel so related to Ashley. When you hang with the girls but you also have your group of guy friends. It's a good balance.
Around the 33:00 mark, where he talks about his aunties being strong& manly I think in the same way men don't want to feel pressured into being overtly masculine. Women who are considered independent or "strong" don't want to be seen as masculine because they can hold their own. Not sure if I'm voicing this out properly Ps I already listened to it on Spotify
I totally get what you mean. It's this whole "Superwoman/Superman" complex that we have adopted these days. And Hollywood likes to push on us especially on black women. The way I see it is at some point you have no choice but to be that " Superwoman/Superman " especially when you have nobody to count on but yourself & be considered as strong because you managed not to "kill yourself" and equating that with being strong/manly cause men are strong even thou you don't feel like taking up all that burden on yourself but if not you then who will. Hope I'm making sense.
hope we can see Corbyn again but on HDIGH next time, since he’s personal friends with AleXa. I’ve been waiting to see AleXa and Corbyn together again since her debut
Corbyn after swearing, he goes Oop- 😳 Lxx forgetting his song's name. Lol 🤣 "What challenges you faced as a dude, Ashley?" 👀 "I like had that some feminine in me too." No wonder he is so sweet. 🥺 The podcast is so adorable. God. 😍🥺 I am so proud of my 28 laboratory boys getting the recognition they really deserve all the love. 💓🥰
@@karlarios232 Sure, you can ask me anything you like to know. Or go to IG follow their IG handles. And lot of their fans have '28lab' added to their IG username so, you can start a conversation with anyone in the comments section. 😍
I remember that BM once said this during pH-1 session together with Get Real but didn't expect that they brought this topic up with 28Lab. This is cool. Good job guys!
Damn I can hear all about them all day long. Corbyn is so chill and fun, I likes the way he talks. And Alex seems to be a sweet guy, he has a really nice voice.
Hope we can see AB6IX's Daehwi on Get Real one day. Daehwi has outstanding speaking talent and i believe that he can do well in English, too (he lived in LA for 6 years)
Lol I was going to write that down after watching a few videos. Matthew does remind me of will smith, voice, 😂, etc. We all need a homeboy like Matthew. 👌❤️
the ice cube convo nonsense got me 💀💀💀 we need more guys like them to exist :)) I hope Corbyn and LXX comes back for another podcast they seem chill and good at talkin
*Please have them back, i really love them. Pretty chill and funny with substance too. Corbyn is pretty dope too. Love them. Ashley has pretty dope friends, waiting for the day my bias rosé appears here cos she's pretty close with her too. Fighting,!!*
Omg I fell in love with this guys, I so wanna be Ashley to have such great guy friends!!! I love how Dive listened to us and did this topic, so cute🤧🤧🤧🤧💖
I remember the first time I fully realized the danger of toxic masculinity was when I was 13 years old and a friend of mine was mad or sad (I don’t really remember why) and so I told him “go cry about it and then feel better” and he said “hell nah I aint a bitch and crying makes sh*t worse” and then proceeded to punch a hole in his wall and really mess up his hand destroying his closet doors in an extrem rage. I remember in my head just being like “damn, yeah, that’s not it.” He was also super abusive, no surprise really seeing his behavior and we don’t talk anymore.
This was so interesting!! I’d like to suggest u guys talking about being Korean American and maybe the racism that u may have faced in America or the differences and cultural barriers u felt in Korea esp to do with like pale skin being preferred in Korea versus America preferring tan skin.
10:29 True ! My sister and I were only raised my our mother and she did everything and worked so hard for us. I'm so thanful I grew up with such a strong female model
I feel like that 'testosterone' excuse gets used a lot when it's convenient for the guy though. I get it, but even if it's true, I think we've evolved enough to know when to separate unhealthy and healthy competition.
i really love their group of friends, along with peniel, joan, tina, coco, jae, bernard, etc. i wish there more male-female friendships like theirs in the korean entertainment industry.
woah wait hol up, last week i was just having this dilemma of understanding men’s perspective and wanting so much to write about it on my blog but i keep getting confused. my guy friend goes like “em not soft” when we were talking something serious and emotional, whilst my other guy friend was more of expressive and emotional and honest about his emotions.. so i got confused which of them posesses real “manliness.” i know man have varied personalities but i as a woman, i prefer the expressive male friend because that way we can learn and relate to one another in more deeper sense, but then again i cant judge men who doesnt show much emotions because i respect how they handle it. so yea, all in all, this episode taught me things... definitely.
I’m from Portland and when I checked to see where Corbyn was from it also said Portland so that’s hell cool!! Never thought that he would be from Portland out of all the cities in Oregon
I feel like PENIEL should have been there for this conversation. We miss you PENIEL. GET REAL is my favourite podcast. I love how they talk about the hard important topics that society would normally dodge around. Ps. I have a girl crush on Ashley.
when I heard about that the standards towards men and women changes, I feel like my country just stays in place and I'm sick of it. because whenever people try to explain that girls don't need to be this and guys don't need to be that, people will just say 'the heck are you talking about, you have to be like this, if you're different then there's something wrong with you'
Hey, just wanted to say that i had a great time listening to you guys. I’m a female but I’ve always been curious about this particular topic. Nowadays there’s a lot of pressure on males as well as female side. However, the sole difference is that seems like dudes don’t talk that much about it(?). I personally, get very mad when hear words like ‘oh, that guy wears a makeup, colors his hair, wears boots with high heels. Thats so unmanly. He’s definitely a gay.’ Like how do people define that? If you preferences slightly different from the traditional one, it doesn’t mean necessarily that something is wrong with you. And mostly, its not just about appearances, society tell men that they gotta be always strong and powerful. From my perspective, it just showcases someone’s narrow minded vision. Time is changing. And there shouldn’t be boundaries between what’s considered right or wrong. Man is man, no matter what he wears, shows his emotions or not. BTW, Ashley looks so tiny and cute around them🥺couldn’t take my eyes of her. Also, Matthew is that type of guy, that every girl wants to be good friends with. The way he talks and delivers his thoughts on any subject is so wise. Wish i had a male friend like him.
@@villeperkkola nooo, I didn’t mean to offend anyone. I totally support lgbt community and for me it’s okay. However, when people say like that, some of them intend to say it in offensive way, since for some of them it seems wrong.
Just a question and something to think about, because this came up a few times here. What is a "strong" woman? Are you strong when you are able to beat men at work? Are you strong if you are scary? I always find it kind of uncomfortable when people say that some women are strong, because they are scary to them or because they are able to work at a job, where there are mainly male workers. Just wanna hear other people's opinions on this.
People say that strong women are scary because they tend to think they have to be like society " says ", and when a woman knows her rights and imposes herself on certain issues, she is "different"...And we well know that human being odd everything that is different or escapes the "norm", so they are usually associated as scary.
the thing about toxic masculinity is not pushing your emotions and trauma away and compensating with aggression and violence bc that is expected from men. as a man, you're allowed to be angry and rough - as bm mentioned " toughen up" - but that leads to toxic and often abusive behaviour. that's the whole problem.
i hope they can come again! this was a great conversation, very chill, intelligent, and great to listen to. i'd love to hear more from them! (of course ash and bm too!)
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I literally love watching you guys I love you guys🔥❤️🔥❤️
I wanna share here this video where a therapist and a filmmaker analyze Non-toxic masculinity through the character of Aragorn. The psychologist says he doesn’t like the term “toxic masculinity”, he prefers “limiting masculinity”. It fits perfectly with this episode. Link: th-cam.com/video/pv_KAnY5XNQ/w-d-xo.html
Thank you, Dive for all the work you do. GET REAL is a need in my life now. The topics you guys speak about definitely _need_ to be shout out. I also appreciate the sense of communication “with friends” and familiarity you’ve built through all these conversations. THANK YOU 🙏🏼❤️
Hell yeah! I did... This is seriously my favorit podcast
After listening to this..i miss all my guy friends... I see myself..can relate to the topic becozz I'm only one girl in the guy gang..🙂🙂🙂...
I likethe look of beard guy
Ashley is one of the boys now
Yup she is one of the bois
No, she’s one of the bois now
Bois sleepover now
she a homie
I want Ashley to be my homegirl
BM: "There's nothing more manly than being a good man to your significant other"
awwww 너무 사랑해요 비엠
I agree! I grew up seeing my older brother treat his wife with such respect and love that it really raised the bar up high for my standards. Especially since he was physically really strong but also found being vulnerable to be a man's biggest strength.
💯
True words. If you KNOW without a doubt you'll be loyal, humble, provider, and face what's required of the wedding oath for her you've got yourself a good foundation!
8:12 "cause you're one of the stronger figures in my life" man that's so sweet
RIGHT??????????? 🥺😭
I was looking for this comment🥺🥺🥺
This conversation should have been like 3hrs long!
I feel you
Like pretty much every episode.
I agree
facts
17:10 BM should've asked,
What's the "Ladies' Code?"
this is genius.
@@power9725 Ty.
ahhh good one
That's exactly what I thought lol
YES
BM is that guy friend everybody needs..like everybody!
HE PANICKED AFTER CURSING OMG HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
Maureen Liamme what time ?
@@amandalamarche8702 2:57
Haha😀😀😀
@@rahmachairunnisa1935 LMAOO
Mathew is my last hope in men :)
Facts if I can’t get someone who’s like Mathew my hope is gone
SAME
He sets the standard pretty high tbh
Hahahahahah
Seriously I wish most men could match up to him
"start with a handshake" is actually great advice. As a woman, I feel more comfortable if a guy gives me a handshake when we meet for the first time. In my country, it´s also common to greet each other with cheek to cheek greeting. Some men might use it as advantage, but mostly it shows that they were raised good by their parents. But handshake is definitely the best way.
R u french or from a European country ?
@@marieperin96 France is in Europe. But yes I'm european, just not from France
Agreed with the handshakes, with direct friendly and respectful eye contact. I hate when guys are shy and awkward with women because they've never been around them much.
I'm from Chile and when we greet people, regardless of gender, we shake hands. Only when we know each other do we kiss once on the cheek. I think this is something that just Chile does, it seems to be different from other Latino countries.
It’s interesting to hear about what people from other cultures feel is the most comfortable way of greeting. Coming from an East Asian country, I feel like non-physical greetings are the most natural and comfortable for me. Unless I’m at a business conference or something of that nature, I won’t default to shaking hands
corbyn is so chill and laidback, i could listen to him talking for 6 hours straight
i feel like he's way more relaxed than when he was with 24k
right! he needs a podcast or something 😩
what's 24k
@@ardencho662 it was the kpop group name he was apart of
omg that's cory from 24k??? i didn't know he left.in 2016 i was big fan of them.what happened to the group?
@@abug- nearly every original member left 24k besides changsun (who wasn't an original member either but he was the only one left + kiyong who was added shortly before the other members left) and now there's another 3 new members added. So 5 in total. They go under the group name 24k also but kinda rebranded with new logo and stuff.
This convo was great. The respect they have for strong independent women and single moms. Feel so related to Ashley. When you hang with the girls but you also have your group of guy friends. It's a good balance.
So your telling me that these handsome guest are over the age of 28...why are hot guys so much older than me😩😩😩
I'm not sure exactly how old they are or you are, but when you get older you'll realize that an 8-10 year (?) difference isn't really that crazy.
@@djokawari1 ********AS LONG AS YOU'RE OF AGE*********
********AS LONG AS YOU'RE OF AGE********
Omg yeah Corbyn is 30
Why are hot guys so far from me 😫😫😫
Around the 33:00 mark, where he talks about his aunties being strong& manly I think in the same way men don't want to feel pressured into being overtly masculine. Women who are considered independent or "strong" don't want to be seen as masculine because they can hold their own. Not sure if I'm voicing this out properly
Ps I already listened to it on Spotify
Your right!!
I totally get what you mean. It's this whole "Superwoman/Superman" complex that we have adopted these days. And Hollywood likes to push on us especially on black women. The way I see it is at some point you have no choice but to be that
" Superwoman/Superman " especially when you have nobody to count on but yourself & be considered as strong because you managed not to "kill yourself" and equating that with being strong/manly cause men are strong even thou you don't feel like taking up all that burden on yourself but if not you then who will.
Hope I'm making sense.
@@sailorfan86 you're definitely making sense. Thanks for clarifying that for me
@@ThePammyone OK GREAT
why the ps? is the content different on spotify?
hope we can see Corbyn again but on HDIGH next time, since he’s personal friends with AleXa. I’ve been waiting to see AleXa and Corbyn together again since her debut
Oh I didn't know ! Since when do they know each others?
@@varia2xg since around 2015-ish. I don’t remember exactly when but he was still in 24K at the time
@@very_cherryx Corbyn is from 24K? 😱
@@beishere6261 yes. he used to go by Cory and he was the leader of 24K
Also ashley talking about her father crying in the shower was so cute :(
Corbyn after swearing, he goes Oop- 😳
Lxx forgetting his song's name. Lol 🤣
"What challenges you faced as a dude, Ashley?" 👀
"I like had that some feminine in me too." No wonder he is so sweet. 🥺
The podcast is so adorable. God. 😍🥺
I am so proud of my 28 laboratory boys getting the recognition they really deserve all the love. 💓🥰
Can I get more info on them? It’s the first time I hear about 28 labs
@@karlarios232 Sure, you can ask me anything you like to know. Or go to IG follow their IG handles. And lot of their fans have '28lab' added to their IG username so, you can start a conversation with anyone in the comments section. 😍
@@hohosbae2954 are both of them 24k members??
@@sionropheca6473 No no. Only Corbyn was a 24K member, whereas Lxx was a High4 member.
I didn't know that Alex finished his military service
I really like how everyone is being honest!
when did he talk about it?
I'm a single mom of 3 boys & this episode really help give me a second pov about how boys think. Thanks guys & Ashley. Love this podcast ❤
i hope we get to see ph-1 back here again
he's coming back :)
@@망고-p1l Not soon enough
They already confirmed in instagram he'll be back
yes omg i miss ph1
@@almariaghern1876 seriously? who posted?
I remember that BM once said this during pH-1 session together with Get Real but didn't expect that they brought this topic up with 28Lab. This is cool. Good job guys!
Damn I can hear all about them all day long. Corbyn is so chill and fun, I likes the way he talks. And Alex seems to be a sweet guy, he has a really nice voice.
It seems like Corbyn and Ashley are really close. :) it’s good to have friendships like this.
Oh god I died when Corbyn said "where the suga mommas at?" lmfao
What time?
@@nainasingh2863 I know it’s late but here 10:56
7:57 Oh my, Ashley's laugh is too cute. I love her
BM and Ashley are so real in talking about any topic! Love love this podcast! Peace ✌🏻
8:50 - 10:26
learning about ashley's family is one of my favorite things about her.
Alex is trying his hardest not make eye contact with Ashley 🤣
Ikr I noticed it too lol
😂
The lesbian in me fades away with Matthew :') and comes again with Ashley :)
sounds confusing
hmm.. now that's a mood😂😂
@@kean6577 it is :')
The great thing about being bi is just getting to enjoy the view xD
@@wluna6455 THE WAY YOU WORDED IT IS ON POINTTTTTT
Ashley is so luckyyy. I wish i have a guy friends like this 😩🤍
Me too
BMs laugh gives me so much joy in life honestly
PLEASE CALL WOOSUNG FROM THE ROSE
I second this! 👋
Ikr and the fact that he’s friends with everyone of them
YASSS PLEASE
PLEAAASSSEEEEE
YES
I wish this podcast was longer! Please bring back Alex and Corbyn as guests again 😊🙌
Hope we can see AB6IX's Daehwi on Get Real one day. Daehwi has outstanding speaking talent and i believe that he can do well in English, too (he lived in LA for 6 years)
Woah for real though, if they can get to invite Daehwi here it would be amazing, their vibes would be so synchronizing
Yeah
Amazing conversation, I was tuned in thee entire time lol **ashley, you have some handsome friends gurl lol!!
Alex' smile is EVERYTHING ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Matthew kinda reminds me of Will Smith. Something in the way he talks, his mimics and behaviour.
Lol I was going to write that down after watching a few videos. Matthew does remind me of will smith, voice, 😂, etc.
We all need a homeboy like Matthew. 👌❤️
the ice cube convo nonsense got me 💀💀💀 we need more guys like them to exist :)) I hope Corbyn and LXX comes back for another podcast they seem chill and good at talkin
*Please have them back, i really love them. Pretty chill and funny with substance too. Corbyn is pretty dope too. Love them. Ashley has pretty dope friends, waiting for the day my bias rosé appears here cos she's pretty close with her too. Fighting,!!*
I really love it whenever the guest is their close friend. They’re all so chill. 🥺
28:20 that "oops" cracked me up
Its so addictive lol
I think Alex understood the topic really well!
Omg I fell in love with this guys, I so wanna be Ashley to have such great guy friends!!! I love how Dive listened to us and did this topic, so cute🤧🤧🤧🤧💖
I remember the first time I fully realized the danger of toxic masculinity was when I was 13 years old and a friend of mine was mad or sad (I don’t really remember why) and so I told him “go cry about it and then feel better” and he said “hell nah I aint a bitch and crying makes sh*t worse” and then proceeded to punch a hole in his wall and really mess up his hand destroying his closet doors in an extrem rage. I remember in my head just being like “damn, yeah, that’s not it.” He was also super abusive, no surprise really seeing his behavior and we don’t talk anymore.
This podcast makes me feel less lonely in my first year of college at home.
Same 😭
Alex has a voice made for podcast, it’s really drawing you in
i lowkey get giggly when corbyn talks and looks at ashley ;)
LOVE this convo! please have a part 2 with corbyn & LXX they good GOOD 👏🏼
2:57 corbyn can't stop cursing even for 3 minutes i live for that
Here I am laughing at this at 3 am and watching Ashley be like a 4 wheel in man talk
This was so interesting!! I’d like to suggest u guys talking about being Korean American and maybe the racism that u may have faced in America or the differences and cultural barriers u felt in Korea esp to do with like pale skin being preferred in Korea versus America preferring tan skin.
I need a home girl like Ashley.
Lxx is so cute. And corbyn is so cool always engaging Ashley asking her opinions haha
BM is my ideal type. I like clean shaven men too. He's so open minded and I love his personality.
Same.
thanks to DIVE discovered new artists!!!!
10:29 True ! My sister and I were only raised my our mother and she did everything and worked so hard for us. I'm so thanful I grew up with such a strong female model
Wait isn’t that Alex from High4? Omg I haven’t kept up with them in so long. I used to listen to their songs in the past. What a nice surprise 💚
I can't help but notice that Corbyn's outfit is fitting the background. Cool episode btw.
I’m very happy with the energy created in this video
Where can i get myself a Mathew in my life i need a guy like him so bad, lover or just friend doesn't matter i neeeeeedddd a human being like him!!
I've bee curious about these stuffs and topics but don't have close guy friends to talk to. Hahaha enjoyed this topic so much. 😊
Yooo Alex representing Rockland County!! I was like " Ayoo what he say?? Did he deadass say Nyack!? NOBODY knows about Nyack! "
I KNOW
BM : I had a little feminine in me too
Me : 👁️👄👁️
BM’s advice to the guy looking for female friends “Start with a 🤝”.....COVID looking around like 😈😂😂jk.
I feel like that 'testosterone' excuse gets used a lot when it's convenient for the guy though. I get it, but even if it's true, I think we've evolved enough to know when to separate unhealthy and healthy competition.
i was in peace, but the title OMG- I LOVE IT IN HERE
BRING CORBYN BACK ESPECIALLY WITH ERIC NAM I CAN HEAR HIM TALK ALL DAY!!!!
man I haven't seen Alex since HIGH4 era, I'm glad he's making music again \o/
I’m assuming they disbanded?
i really love their group of friends, along with peniel, joan, tina, coco, jae, bernard, etc. i wish there more male-female friendships like theirs in the korean entertainment industry.
THIS EP SHOULD BE ENTITLED " 41 MINS OF CORBYN BEING SO FUCKING HOT "
he's so cool!!!!
Why do get real eps end so fast 😭 I love this podcast
"It's hard to deal with people" hell yeah...
the way these guys express their respect for women is something else!!!!
this is like subsequently one of my top favorites podcasts.
Mathew is a real men :')
woah wait hol up, last week i was just having this dilemma of understanding men’s perspective and wanting so much to write about it on my blog but i keep getting confused. my guy friend goes like “em not soft” when we were talking something serious and emotional, whilst my other guy friend was more of expressive and emotional and honest about his emotions.. so i got confused which of them posesses real “manliness.” i know man have varied personalities but i as a woman, i prefer the expressive male friend because that way we can learn and relate to one another in more deeper sense, but then again i cant judge men who doesnt show much emotions because i respect how they handle it. so yea, all in all, this episode taught me things... definitely.
Corbyn and LXX are so cute, It was pleasure to listen to them
BM's giggle is the best thing in this existence
I’m from Portland and when I checked to see where Corbyn was from it also said Portland so that’s hell cool!! Never thought that he would be from Portland out of all the cities in Oregon
I get Taeyang vibes whenever Corbyn smiles. Here I am with another episode of Dive Studios making me fall in love with Get Real's special guests.
10:42 shout out to Dr. Grandma and her momma Dr.SingleMotherGreatGrandma, working hard and hustling in the British India
I feel like PENIEL should have been there for this conversation. We miss you PENIEL.
GET REAL is my favourite podcast.
I love how they talk about the hard important topics that society would normally dodge around.
Ps. I have a girl crush on Ashley.
when I heard about that the standards towards men and women changes, I feel like my country just stays in place and I'm sick of it. because whenever people try to explain that girls don't need to be this and guys don't need to be that, people will just say 'the heck are you talking about, you have to be like this, if you're different then there's something wrong with you'
I want a second part of this...not the same topic necessarily but the same people
BM at 32:33 is where it just hit hard! huge respect for that right there man.
Thank you for the single mother's shutout.
3:34 Corbyn thought it's "and why" and laughed bcs it sounded like matthew was asking why was lxx born in new york (NY) 😂
I am not even exaggerating...this is my third time here already
31:02 lol
Hey, just wanted to say that i had a great time listening to you guys. I’m a female but I’ve always been curious about this particular topic. Nowadays there’s a lot of pressure on males as well as female side. However, the sole difference is that seems like dudes don’t talk that much about it(?). I personally, get very mad when hear words like ‘oh, that guy wears a makeup, colors his hair, wears boots with high heels. Thats so unmanly. He’s definitely a gay.’ Like how do people define that? If you preferences slightly different from the traditional one, it doesn’t mean necessarily that something is wrong with you. And mostly, its not just about appearances, society tell men that they gotta be always strong and powerful. From my perspective, it just showcases someone’s narrow minded vision. Time is changing. And there shouldn’t be boundaries between what’s considered right or wrong. Man is man, no matter what he wears, shows his emotions or not.
BTW, Ashley looks so tiny and cute around them🥺couldn’t take my eyes of her. Also, Matthew is that type of guy, that every girl wants to be good friends with. The way he talks and delivers his thoughts on any subject is so wise. Wish i had a male friend like him.
is saying "that guy is gay" an insult? If someone's gay there's nothing wrong with them, so...
@@villeperkkola nooo, I didn’t mean to offend anyone. I totally support lgbt community and for me it’s okay. However, when people say like that, some of them intend to say it in offensive way, since for some of them it seems wrong.
23:00 as a woman with PCOS: mood. also drop the kpop stubble/shadow make up tricks. the struggle is real
Just a question and something to think about, because this came up a few times here.
What is a "strong" woman? Are you strong when you are able to beat men at work? Are you strong if you are scary? I always find it kind of uncomfortable when people say that some women are strong, because they are scary to them or because they are able to work at a job, where there are mainly male workers.
Just wanna hear other people's opinions on this.
People say that strong women are scary because they tend to think they have to be like society " says ", and when a woman knows her rights and imposes herself on certain issues, she is "different"...And we well know that human being odd everything that is different or escapes the "norm", so they are usually associated as scary.
the thing about toxic masculinity is not pushing your emotions and trauma away and compensating with aggression and violence bc that is expected from men. as a man, you're allowed to be angry and rough - as bm mentioned " toughen up" - but that leads to toxic and often abusive behaviour. that's the whole problem.
Really enjoyed this episode a lot! It's good to hear the perspectives from all sides!
Alternative title: Corbyn flirting with Ashley for 41 minutes straight
Nah, they are just really really really really close friends.
I mean, they'd be cute af together tho
Lol I thought I was just being silly when I noticed that too
but I guess they just have that kind of good friendship
They're all good homies and hangout a lot if you see them on Joan's or Christine's vlogs 😊
more like Alex avoiding direct eye contact with Ashley for 41 minutes straight.
this is ma fav episode they all so comfortable and cheerful together
I know I'm very late, but it's nice to see someone finally from Oregon 🙂
YOO WHAT I WAS WONDERING WHY CORBYN LOOKED SO FAMILIAR AND I FOUND OUT HE WAS FROM 24K ???? OH MY GOD I MISS THEM 😭😭😭😭😭
Dude Portland here! I was so happy I’m definitely gonna check him out soon
Corbyn is...extra chill and I love it!
i hope they can come again! this was a great conversation, very chill, intelligent, and great to listen to. i'd love to hear more from them! (of course ash and bm too!)