How did they made a weapon this impressive and not think to put handles on the levers? Not having to move your hands every quarter of a turn would more than double the firing rate easily. Did the greeks not have a word for ergonomic?
the first is the Chinese chu ku nu based on earliest archaeological evidence of repeating crossbows, which was excavated from a Chu burial site at Tomb 47 at Qinjiazui, Hubei Province, and has been dated to the 4th century BC, during the Warring States Period (475 - 220 BC).
@@HistoricalWeapons the chu-ko-nu was very underpowered and useless against armored enemies, unless the bolts were poisoned it wasn't even that useful against unarmored enemies.
@@ennui9745that doesn’t make it less advanced. A service rifle is useless against 3 inch thick steel armor but that doesn’t make it less advanced than an artillery gun.
Woody Shi, I recognized the narrator’s voice from “Ancient Discoveries.” Google seach says it’s from “Robotics: Ancient Discoveries” (2002) but I’m not sure which specific episode that is. Additonally, they mention the same historian and device in “Ancient Impossible” (2014)
I would love for somebody to make this but make it the size of a Ballista just to make a machine that can just constantly throw spear I would love to see one I would just love for this contraption to become more popular that would be great
The chinese had a type of one man repeating crossbow, pretty weak and useless against any type of armored opponents, but good for firing in masse formations to harass and pin down enemy ones or quickly kill steppe nomad horses by turning them into pin cushions, they are called "Cho Ko Nus" if I didn't get that wrong but they were not really that commonly used eitheir compared to bows or regular crossbows. So my guess for why neitheir the Greeks or Romans tried to make a smaller device of this one is because it would havr been extremely weak. The romans did invent the regular European crossbow predecessor(not repeating), although I think like the one shown here they were mainly meant for defensive purposes of forts and cities. This repeating ballista could have been used by the Romans on a chariot in battle, although this is unknown
@@alexmag342 or to force enemies to attack, in Rome total war I use scorpions in the rear and have it shoot while my forces are on an advantageous position
Yes it has something to do with guns, cuz polybolos is equivalent to modern "M2 browning machines gun" you know before gunpowder was discovered or popular
This seems like a needlessly elaborate way to fire arrows when you could shoot them 3x faster by simply using a bowman. Honestly, what could possibly be the benefit of this thing?
With another chain, this can be operated from some distance so you can place it on a tower at an exposed position with great coverage or aimed at specific points ie in front of a gate while you can operate it from a safe position without the need for elaborate arrow slits that only cover small sections and of course still put the archer at some danger. You only need to fill up the magazine but im sure there are ways to do that from a safe position aswell.
To hammer home what @alldarin1464 said, to train a (long)bowman, start with his grandfather. Warbows has draw weight beyond 70 lbs pulling or drawing it while aiming is not a simple task. And oh, you have to be accurate so strength and skill is necessary. This is why crossbows are popular and preferred weapon to arm the levies like spear, not much training required.
i just picture like some roman soldiers on one just firing at fleeing tribes people Omnis qui non auferetur barbara! quis Qui habitaverit in pugna est exercitata barbara! Aliquam! Aliquam! ALIQUAM! ( Anyone who runs away is a barbarian! anyone who stays to fight is a well trained barbarian! Get some! Get some! GET SOME! )
Nice hobby. However, you are using modern material(s) for an alleged weapon, apparently made 2000yrs ago. While it may look nice, it is not a true representation, the Materials & Method used then, would probably have produced something totally different & less reliable. How would they have produced this!? Take a closer look..
If anything the ancient version would have been better & more reliable since they actually intended to use it in warfare rather than some fun little hobby. You mistake ancient people for being stupid
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Other civilizations: get more archers to shoot more arrows
Qin and Rome: CLAK CLAK CLAK CLAK
How did they made a weapon this impressive and not think to put handles on the levers?
Not having to move your hands every quarter of a turn would more than double the firing rate easily.
Did the greeks not have a word for ergonomic?
In Greek, Ergon(work) and nomos(rules, laws, regulations)
That is: ERGONOMIC is a word of Greek origin
@@vitoravila9908 I didn't think I needed to explain that joke but it is funnier now that you have.
This is a reconstruction, probably not entirely accurate
the first is the Chinese chu ku nu based on earliest archaeological evidence of repeating crossbows, which was excavated from a Chu burial site at Tomb 47 at Qinjiazui, Hubei Province, and has been dated to the 4th century BC, during the Warring States Period (475 - 220 BC).
The polybolos is more advanced, however.
@@ennui9745 both are advanced. It’s difficult to compare which is more because it’s apples and oranges
@@HistoricalWeapons the chu-ko-nu was very underpowered and useless against armored enemies, unless the bolts were poisoned it wasn't even that useful against unarmored enemies.
@@ennui9745 that’s the portable ones. There are plenty of recordings of artillery versions same size as this.
@@ennui9745that doesn’t make it less advanced. A service rifle is useless against 3 inch thick steel armor but that doesn’t make it less advanced than an artillery gun.
Dude what! That's incredible. Ive never heard of this. Amazing.
So there are measurements in a book called "Greek and Roman Artillery A Technical Treatise.
Its measured in dactyls which is roughly .75 inch
My guess, these were crazy expensive to make so they didn't go ape shit giving these out, it is pretty cool
joergsprave must see this
polybolas first auto arrow shooting weapon in history....meanwhile the chu ko nu crossbow from 400bc
When did he say it was the first? He said "it's a contender", orientalists are so insecure lmfao
what documentary is this video from? I'd like to see the whole documentary.
Woody Shi, I recognized the narrator’s voice from “Ancient Discoveries.” Google seach says it’s from “Robotics: Ancient Discoveries” (2002) but I’m not sure which specific episode that is. Additonally, they mention the same historian and device in “Ancient Impossible” (2014)
@@jhndecolorado7627 Thank you! that's very helpful already!
I would love for somebody to make this but make it the size of a Ballista just to make a machine that can just constantly throw spear I would love to see one I would just love for this contraption to become more popular that would be great
sounds pretty unpractical for modern warfare.
How would you crank one that big?
@Feanor6450 perhaps throw some gears in to make it easier for cranking it?
What they need is one that doesn't need you to go back and forth so that you can just crank in one direction
Two cranks just like the "Windlass Crossbow" would have done the job nicely.
Why has no one tried to shrink this down into a handheld device?!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repeating_crossbow
The chinese had a type of one man repeating crossbow, pretty weak and useless against any type of armored opponents, but good for firing in masse formations to harass and pin down enemy ones or quickly kill steppe nomad horses by turning them into pin cushions, they are called "Cho Ko Nus" if I didn't get that wrong but they were not really that commonly used eitheir compared to bows or regular crossbows.
So my guess for why neitheir the Greeks or Romans tried to make a smaller device of this one is because it would havr been extremely weak.
The romans did invent the regular European crossbow predecessor(not repeating), although I think like the one shown here they were mainly meant for defensive purposes of forts and cities.
This repeating ballista could have been used by the Romans on a chariot in battle, although this is unknown
@@alexmag342 or to force enemies to attack, in Rome total war I use scorpions in the rear and have it shoot while my forces are on an advantageous position
In the Saalburgmuseum in Germany, you can see one
9 seconds per shot? I call bullshit. You can crank that thing much faster than that.
11 bolts per minute * 9 seconds per shot = 99 second per minute.
It probably had multiple people handling the machine back then.
@@kotekzot dude that math is terrible
With a light draw, yes. With a heavier draw, like with a ballista, that'd be a good ROF.
Its "Polybolos"
This has nothing to do with a gun!
Yes it has something to do with guns, cuz polybolos is equivalent to modern "M2 browning machines gun" you know before gunpowder was discovered or popular
This seems like a needlessly elaborate way to fire arrows when you could shoot them 3x faster by simply using a bowman. Honestly, what could possibly be the benefit of this thing?
It's just easier to use, to have a skilled archer you need to train him for years and years, while this thing can be taught in a few days
The arrows of a ballista are stronger than that of a bowman for one.
With another chain, this can be operated from some distance so you can place it on a tower at an exposed position with great coverage or aimed at specific points ie in front of a gate while you can operate it from a safe position without the need for elaborate arrow slits that only cover small sections and of course still put the archer at some danger. You only need to fill up the magazine but im sure there are ways to do that from a safe position aswell.
To hammer home what @alldarin1464 said, to train a (long)bowman, start with his grandfather. Warbows has draw weight beyond 70 lbs pulling or drawing it while aiming is not a simple task. And oh, you have to be accurate so strength and skill is necessary. This is why crossbows are popular and preferred weapon to arm the levies like spear, not much training required.
The benefit is that it's super fucking cool!
does it still do similar damage to one that isn't automatic?
Likely significantly weaker
i just picture like some roman soldiers on one just firing at fleeing tribes people
Omnis qui non auferetur barbara! quis Qui habitaverit in pugna est exercitata barbara! Aliquam! Aliquam! ALIQUAM!
( Anyone who runs away is a barbarian! anyone who stays to fight is a well trained barbarian! Get some! Get some! GET SOME! )
Nice hobby. However, you are using modern material(s) for an alleged weapon, apparently made 2000yrs ago. While it may look nice, it is not a true representation, the Materials & Method used then, would probably have produced something totally different & less reliable. How would they have produced this!? Take a closer look..
It’s just plates pins and wood
yeah the greeks clearly didn't know what wood was
If anything the ancient version would have been better & more reliable since they actually intended to use it in warfare rather than some fun little hobby. You mistake ancient people for being stupid