To clarify, graphite or graphite composite fishing rods are VERY strong, they just need to be treated with more tender, love and care than fibreglass rods. Graphite rods are the only way to go for lure fishing due to their casting accuracy, and fibreglass rods are best for bait fishing because they're more durable and detect nibbles better. This is just my opinion. 👍👍
@@brettellis1837 Swedish Abu awesome. Outsourced Abu not so awesome. My first, and still my favourite, baitcaster reel is my Abu 2500c which I got in about 1992 and still use. It has caught a lot of fish in its time.
I use a 'glass composite Ugly Stik Gold baitcaster for my kayak fishing rod as they will take a lot more knocks and very hard to break . Great rod for throwing heavy spinnerbaits and for trolling. I have some old 'glass Shakespeare rods that over 20 years old and still going strong. Also a fan of the Abu Rayrex composite rods. Best of both worlds.
Robby ; I as a hobby restore old solid glass Jarvis Walker rods old Toradins , Mugee's Port Philips Black Queens Etc I buy them in Bric a Brac shops a shop at our local tip and garage sales usually missing runners and looking the worse for wear ,after cleaning replacing runners and varnishing ,while not as new they are perfectly good rods and its funny but I tend to use them a lot more than my $150 dollar Graphite Rods the old girls ...well they've got soul . Cheers from Bob from Bairnsdale !🐟🐟🐟
Thanks so much Bob. I hear you loud and clear mate. As any musician will tell you, without soul there is nothing. I love using my old Black Queen Deluxe occasionally for that very reason, it has soul and a story to tell.
This has been a brilliant episode, it’s helped me a lot with rod selection. At times I’ve struggled with casting and this has been very helpful with future rod choice.
Most rods will have a lure weight/casting weight rating printed on them. This is the weight required to load the rod without overloading it. If the rod does not load, then you are simply throwing the lure with a stick, not using the rod. If you overload the rod with too heavy a weight, you run the risk of breaking the line, the rod or simply just throwing it short at your feet as the tip is forced down to throw it short due to the weight. Heavy weights require a longer or heavier rod to throw well. Graphite rods are a game changer for casting lures, they are responsive and do their thing well. However, the same things that make them great for lure casting can also be an impediment to bait casting. Because they tend to be a bit stiffer and have a faster recovery, they can often tear the hooks out of a bait on casting. They can also present issues with pulling the hook on striking if a fish is mouthing the bait, but we are discussing casting I suppose. The biggest issue I see people having with casting is their motion. They are using their arm and not their wrist. If you watch most proficient casters, they simply move their wrist and the arm barely moves in the cast. All the power is imparted by accelerating and decelerating the butt whilst changing the angle it is pointing from forward to backward and forward/release. For using a spinning reel, hold the rod with the reel stem between the ring and middle finger (or ring and little finger for bigger reels/ smaller hands) and hold the line with the forefinger to control while bail is open. Pu the thumb on the back of the rod, this is your power. Simply cock your wrist backwards and then, as the rod pulls back as it takes up the weight push your wrist forwards, powering through your thumb area to the rod. Change the angle from back to front and release. People are often amazed at the distance gained from not trying to throw the cast, but just flicking it. It is the release of power as the rod unloads that is the main contributor to casting distance and accuracy. Distance because that stored power is throwing the weight, and accuracy because you can short stroke the cast, allowing you to control distance and direction much better than with wild arm swinging casts. The idea is to accelerate the but end of the rod so the tip has to "rush" to keep up. This is the back cast. As the weight (lure or bait) swings tight, the added momentum it has will bend the rod backwards, this is loading the rod. At this point, the butt is pushed forwards to accentuate the loading by forcing the butt to accelerate and again the tip has catch up. All that power stored in the rod has to go somewhere and, as the rod straightens, we utilise that to throw the weight. This is the "secret", also, behind fly fishing. You are using the rod to throw the line. The loop you create is entirely through timing the loading and unloading of the rod on fore and back strokes. Except in fly fishing, you don't want to use so much wrist except on the power stroke.
Thanks Robbie. You have potentially saved me a few hundred dollars. I recently bought a Daiwa Tatulla heavy duty baitcaster. I've used it a few times and love the action and casting accuracy. You're advice about high sticking is something I've never heard of before. Great advice probably the most practical I've ever had on any video. Thanks again. Tight lines 👍
Great video Robbie with great explanation. I have over 70 rods and i always find myself using 2 or 3 favourites and they are always graphite. The old glass ugly sticks were good but you just cant beat the crispness of a high quality graphite rod. I also have that same Rex Hunt black edition rod, its lasted a lifetime lol.
G Loomis baitcasters are nice. And I use shimano raider for cod. Where expensive rods kick in is fly fishing, up to a point. Fish don't know if your using an expensive rod or a cheap one. Fibreglass is more durable. Graphite is stronger but way more fragile. Go with what you can afford without breaking the budget I say. I'm just as happy flicking out flies with my redington to bombing out bait with my jarvis walker. I must add though my g loomis baitcaster has caught fish way beyond its capacity and capability...if it broke tomorrow I'd be devoed. Its a rod I bought in my 20s. At least 30 years old. To me, its priceless as is my shimano baitrunner reel. Good tips btw and another great video Robbie. Cheers
Gday robbie loved the video and I think your opinion is really great but I do have something to add. As a professional bream fishermen who enters in tournaments and fishes salt water and freshwater allot I find that expensive rods which are lighter and more Sensative are essential Especially when fishing with light line such as 3 pound leader. As well when I go mulloway fishing in estuaries such as the Yarra or docklands I find high end rods in some companies such as penn or shimano do very well with these fish compared to fibreglass, because braid and live bait is pair really well. I definitely agree with the old cheap fibreglass being awesome rods as I think they are, as someone who is 16 and fished for 11 years my first rod was an old ugly stick my dad gave me and it’s still my prised rod. I’m not trying to contradict your argument I just wanted to bring another view to the table. Have an awesome day Robbie and keep up the amazing videos
G'day mate, Great video as always. Reminded me of my first graphite rod. It was early nighties on a friday arvo I remember picking it up from Bluey's in Wodonga, had a couple of mates coming around for a beer that night so I could show it of. After passing around my new pride and joy for everyone to admire and envy as we are standing around the kitchen planning our next trip. I lent my new pride and joy against the kitchen bench to grab a beer from the fridge a metre and a half away and slowly watched it slide across the bench hit the kitchen floor and break into three pieces!! Never saw the water 😬 Never even had a reel put on it. Four kids and I don't know how many rods later, I've never used a graphite rod 😉
Hahaha If we didn't have these types of incidents we wouldn't have stories to tell our mates. LOL 😂 I slammed a G.Loomis in the door of my old Suburu years ago. Haha snap!
Graphite rods are prone to getting micro cracks when banged around. The micro cracks become stress points causing failure. Don't bang your rod on hard stuff and use a rod sock for transport and storage.
I've got one lightweight graphite rod and lightweight reel to throw on my backpack when I hike, and all my other rods are cheapy Big W fibreglass things that get the job done when weight isn't an issue. Very informative video, Robbie. I do like when you put out these sort.
i've got a Daiwa graphite spinning rod since the mid-80's and its still chugging along mostly to the advice of the guy in the store that sold it to me- don't raise the tip over your head when its being loaded up. Seriously god bless that man he saved me a fortune! Beautiful casting rod and very light so it's always made carrying it great too. That said I prefer the heavy fibreglass for beach rods as like you mentioned, much tougher and I found its easier to bully around and muscle bigger fish without risking a line snapping as there's so much more leverage and torque. The greatest breaker of rods though, the car boot closing Its a horrible noise!
My everything rod is the ugly stick gx2 any day.. I have 3 of them. 2 solid for in my Ute & 1 break apart for in the family car. I’ve caught every native fish of various size + everything from small Redfin to massive carp. I cannot count the number of trout I’ve caught from rivers & creeks. Shakespeare ugly stick gx2. Unbreakable! 2nd favourite ugly stick black pearl. Another fantastic rod for sitting on the river drowning worms..
This video was especially for me 😂, whenever I need a new rod I do sooooooo much research. But I don’t know what material any of them are 😂 Love your works Robbie, tight lines bro 🤙🎣🤙🎣
Haha thanks so much buddy, I'm a bit the same. I just break them down to soft and hard. Fibreglass or graphite. The rest are all variations of these two.
Thanks Robbie I literally broke my blade and tails rod 2 weeks ago but I didn’t high stick it or anything I had cast half the day with it and it was fine then I went to cast it again and it had broken straight through the second eye not sure why or how but something when wrong cheers mate thanks for the info
Hi Robbie, great presentation, there is one other important feature with grafite rods, they conduct electricity and there's usually a warning sticker on the rod to warn the user.
It's funny how many graphite rods I now own that are about 6-12 inches shorter than when they were made lol. Got most of them for free from guys who had the shits and were about to throw them in the water. I've got some lacquered cane rods that are more than 70 years old and still good to use in the surf. My "go to" rigs for most of my fishing now are either a pair of Shimano spinning combos I got for about $200 combined (fibreglass) or a pair of combos I put together from Wish of all places, for about $70 total (one is graphite, the other is fibreglass). You haven't lived until you slam the tailgate and hear that crunching sound! lol
Hahaha thanks mate. I had a Subaru Forester years ago. I will never forget the sound it made when I closed the back door on a G.Loomis spinning rod. Haha 🤣🤣
💛...i've got an ultralight spinning setup (5 1/2' rod), graphite, with 2-4# test mono line that i take backpacking...i've had it since the early 80's and with very little maintenance and couple line changes, it's been very good to me... i've also only caught trout on it and my biggest is about 15" so it hasn't seen any monsters... hopefully it'll keep me going for a long time...
Thanks for this, it is quite informative. Yeah, I've broken a couple of graphite rods, it doesn't take too much sometimes! These days, for trout and bream fishing, I favour Silstar Crystal Blue tip rods. They are a composite rod and are a great allrounder, they maybe behave a bit more like a fibre glass rod, but they are firmer. They work well as bait rods, and cast pretty well too in my opinion.
Thanks mate. Metal detecting is more likely than saltwater fishing, just because of where I live. I would probably share the metal detecting video on my second channel though "robbiefishing extra videos".
@@Futurefirefighterblaze Best of both worlds lol. Nice. I have to drive a couple of hours to the coast, but it is a nice trip, so I don't usually mind it.
Thanks Robbie, over the years I have always enjoyed your videos and this one was very informative on fishing rods as over the years I have collected many different rods . Keep em coming ! 👍👍🍻🍻
My Ozark trail OTX reel baitcaster for $11.00 on a ugly stick catfish medium heavy power moderate Action rod $17.99 works great. For every thing but trout fishing. There is cheeper stuff out there. I got my Lew's lzr pro baitcaster combo medium heavy power fast Action rod for $39.00 is graffit is sooper light all new. I broke my first rod last year on a trout fishing it was 9 inches by high sticking my rod and broke it and I had it for 10 years. Grab the line first was not paying attention. It is easy to break this new rod's that are graffiti made.
Great upload Robbie, like everyone else in the comments I’d definitely like to see more videos on rods,reels, lines, hooks and sinkers. Anything that’s informative. Keep up the great work mate 👍
Mate ive broken so many graphite rods ive lost count and one broke in my hand with no bend in it turns out a manufacturing fault in the rod i rather use glass rods when bait fishing and graphite rods for lure fishing
I used to think the same when I lived in North east Victoria, now that I'm on the coast and mainly estuary fishing I wouldn't waste my money on cheap rods. The cheap rods work in NE VIC mainly because you know what you are going to catch whereas it's pot luck in the estuary and you need that extra reinsurance.
At Seymour just had a massive cod or carp on nearly snapped my whole rod by then bend on worms then lost it last second didn’t see it tho on a paternoster rig it snapped the hook in Goulburn river what do you think it was
WOW that sounds hectic mate. My guess would be that it was a carp, just because big carp take worms more often than big cod do. I certainly could be wrong through.
I only had 10 pound line on that’s probably why it broke and how do I stop the river flowing taking my setup further down maybe a heavier sinker? And how do target cod sorry it’s alot haha
If you're trying to throw real lightweight a good distance a fiberglass rod is actually going to help fling or sling-shot that lightweight further when casting than a stiff graphite rod would
Have never broken a graphite rod fishing (car door another story). I prefer the graphite rods for control over larger fish. I personally find the glass rod way too flexible. I only really use my glass rods for bait fishing or whiting, fishing where control of your fish isn't essential.
Great video again. I’m fishing a for Redfin tomorrow at evening to sunset however the water looks very dark/black should I use a spinner or is lure colour more important ?
Keep fishing after sunset. That is when the big fellas come out to play :) Paddle tails, curl tails, spinners, small spinner baits and anything with a bit movement or a rattle should work. I like dark in dark water (Purple, dark reds, dark blues and blacks) for silhouetting but light has its place if the sun is out. As Robbie says, have a selection of plastic tails and other lures, play until you find their liking. Fish deep at this time of year. They like the deeper holes mostly when the water cools down and you find the big fish schooling near the bottom of these. Fish slowly and with plenty of pauses and speed changes. The fish are not fired up, you have to get them excited. They do play, but you have to convince them the game is worth it. Have a ball and I hope you catch a bagfull.
I often find myself trying to find old school slow action rods. So much better for bait fishing. I especially miss the fibreglass blanks made by Len Butterworth and Dick Snyder. They were purpose designed with really clever tapers. I wonder what happened to their mandrels? I also think that fast action graphite fly rods suck, unless you're already an expert. I still think that Ugly Sticks are awesome but not cheap. Worth getting on sale if you can.
Robbie I love your videos but I think you are making some over generalisations and missing key factors when talking about glass vs graphite. I’m planing on doing a video on a similar topic too because there is a lot of misconceptions about rod power vs row action and the importance of casting weight etc.
I’ve got 3 high end light tackle spin rods ranging from $240 to $300 and perform as I want them too but have had a few high end rods snap but for a beginner I would be spending $100-$150 fishing rods then as you progress spend more money
It's Really about purpose. When you start narrowing down on your style and preferred techniques.. you'll find the rod that does exactly what you need it to to compliment your fishing style is quite expensive. Wouldn't recommend high end rods for beginners. You don't have your style narrowed down.
I still have a shimano et fishing rod still catches fish love it that's about 30 years old. It's like braid and mono story we all caught fish on mono no dramas it's just the fish companies want to catch fisherman to make more money and before I get judged I also own $500 rods but to me it's the fibreglass are more durable
I've used one graphite rod in my whole life and wasn't a good a look at all snapped it first time I used it. Now all I buy is 20 dollar rod from Kmart or big W they have lasted me a very long time and caught some big fish on it.
Broke my Savage Black Ultralight a few weeks back highsticking a trout to drag her onto the bank. My fault entirely and when I heard the crack and saw the tip hit her in the face, I was totally unsurprised. I said afterward on the vid that I was highsticking and my fault entirely. TBF, that rod copped some punishment. That day alone I had bank flipped half a dozen big trout along the creek and I often got carp on it while fishing for redfin with it. It probably should not have lasted as long as it did lol.
Haha that sounds very similar to the lifestyle of most of my fishing rods mate. I'm terrible at looking after them and have never once blamed the rod manufacturer when they break. I wish I had a dollar for every time I high stocked a fishing rod when I shouldn't have and broke it. LOL
Good one mate 👍👍👍👍 amazing how many rods and stuff you end up with to do specific targeted fishing. I have bream rods whiting rods light surf heavy surf tailor spinning rods light surf lure rods, bass lure rods the rods I use in the dam etc etc etc hahHahaha
Haha thanks Cam..I'm the same. LOL I have trout rods for lakes, trout rods for rivers (usually shorter), redfin rods, yellowbelly rods, cod rods, all rounders. Haha 😂😂
My first graphite rod didn't last a day . I fell off a large rock and landed on my rod. It snapped in half. My second graphite was stood on by a child when I was jetty fishing and that was it's last day. My advice by cheaper glass rods rods .
Serious question Robbie. When’s the last time you left the go-pro at home and just went fishin? Has being a content creator negatively impacted on your enjoyment of the sport?
Hi mate, no not at all. I absolutely love it every bit as much as I ever have. Last year I had an overload of content so I took a week off and still went fishing, but without the camera. Haha I had a day fishing with my dad and my brother earlier this year and did not film.
I recently splurged on an $800 Japanese rod and while it is very nice and very light it is not 3.5 times as nice or 3.5 times as light as my $250 rods.... and it certainly doesn't catch me 3.5 times as many fish.
G'day mate, that's amazing..that's exactly what I tell people when they ask me how I like my Shimano Vanford reel. I tell them it's an amazing reel, but definitely not 4 times better than a $100 reel.
@robbiefishing I think it's a lesson I had to learn. I felt like I was missing out on something extra until I bought it. I don't regret it because it is a very nice rod and it is super versatile but i did find out the sweet spot for me is definitely the mid price point.... you get 99% of the performance at 50% of the price.
Doesn't matter about rod and reel you're using comes down to knowing how to use them and what's on the other end whether it being live/dead bait or lures.
Ever since I went out on my mums friends partners boat and he told me no graphite rods cause they can conduct electricity so now I won’t buy graphite rods cause I’m scared of being struck by lightning 😂 now I have another reason not to buy graphite rods haha
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To clarify, graphite or graphite composite fishing rods are VERY strong, they just need to be treated with more tender, love and care than fibreglass rods.
Graphite rods are the only way to go for lure fishing due to their casting accuracy, and fibreglass rods are best for bait fishing because they're more durable and detect nibbles better.
This is just my opinion. 👍👍
No don't buy the shit get abu. Lol 😂 .
Barra set up small hook just a salted pilly fillet no lead 48m cast standard dog tooth power asari 4.5 g lure 55mm 58m cast.
Yep it is a super line rod eyelets mate all fuji .alconie ring.🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉.😂
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@@brettellis1837 Swedish Abu awesome. Outsourced Abu not so awesome. My first, and still my favourite, baitcaster reel is my Abu 2500c which I got in about 1992 and still use. It has caught a lot of fish in its time.
I use a 'glass composite Ugly Stik Gold baitcaster for my kayak fishing rod as they will take a lot more knocks and very hard to break . Great rod for throwing heavy spinnerbaits and for trolling. I have some old 'glass Shakespeare rods that over 20 years old and still going strong. Also a fan of the Abu Rayrex composite rods. Best of both worlds.
Thanks mate, I will have to check them out. 👍👍
Robby ; I as a hobby restore old solid glass Jarvis Walker rods old Toradins , Mugee's Port Philips Black Queens Etc I buy them in Bric a Brac shops a shop at our local tip and garage sales usually missing runners and looking the worse for wear ,after cleaning replacing runners and varnishing ,while not as new they are perfectly good rods and its funny but I tend to use them a lot more than my $150 dollar Graphite Rods the old girls ...well they've got soul . Cheers from Bob from Bairnsdale !🐟🐟🐟
Thanks so much Bob. I hear you loud and clear mate. As any musician will tell you, without soul there is nothing. I love using my old Black Queen Deluxe occasionally for that very reason, it has soul and a story to tell.
Hey Robbie, you're right about fibreglass rods lasting for years, I've got a few rods from the seventies still catching fish🐟
This has been a brilliant episode, it’s helped me a lot with rod selection. At times I’ve struggled with casting and this has been very helpful with future rod choice.
Most rods will have a lure weight/casting weight rating printed on them. This is the weight required to load the rod without overloading it. If the rod does not load, then you are simply throwing the lure with a stick, not using the rod. If you overload the rod with too heavy a weight, you run the risk of breaking the line, the rod or simply just throwing it short at your feet as the tip is forced down to throw it short due to the weight. Heavy weights require a longer or heavier rod to throw well.
Graphite rods are a game changer for casting lures, they are responsive and do their thing well. However, the same things that make them great for lure casting can also be an impediment to bait casting. Because they tend to be a bit stiffer and have a faster recovery, they can often tear the hooks out of a bait on casting. They can also present issues with pulling the hook on striking if a fish is mouthing the bait, but we are discussing casting I suppose.
The biggest issue I see people having with casting is their motion. They are using their arm and not their wrist. If you watch most proficient casters, they simply move their wrist and the arm barely moves in the cast. All the power is imparted by accelerating and decelerating the butt whilst changing the angle it is pointing from forward to backward and forward/release. For using a spinning reel, hold the rod with the reel stem between the ring and middle finger (or ring and little finger for bigger reels/ smaller hands) and hold the line with the forefinger to control while bail is open. Pu the thumb on the back of the rod, this is your power. Simply cock your wrist backwards and then, as the rod pulls back as it takes up the weight push your wrist forwards, powering through your thumb area to the rod. Change the angle from back to front and release. People are often amazed at the distance gained from not trying to throw the cast, but just flicking it.
It is the release of power as the rod unloads that is the main contributor to casting distance and accuracy. Distance because that stored power is throwing the weight, and accuracy because you can short stroke the cast, allowing you to control distance and direction much better than with wild arm swinging casts. The idea is to accelerate the but end of the rod so the tip has to "rush" to keep up. This is the back cast. As the weight (lure or bait) swings tight, the added momentum it has will bend the rod backwards, this is loading the rod. At this point, the butt is pushed forwards to accentuate the loading by forcing the butt to accelerate and again the tip has catch up. All that power stored in the rod has to go somewhere and, as the rod straightens, we utilise that to throw the weight.
This is the "secret", also, behind fly fishing. You are using the rod to throw the line. The loop you create is entirely through timing the loading and unloading of the rod on fore and back strokes. Except in fly fishing, you don't want to use so much wrist except on the power stroke.
Thanks so much for the great feedback Geoff. Stiff rods for casting accuracy, soft rods for clumbsy people. Haha
Thanks Robbie. You have potentially saved me a few hundred dollars. I recently bought a Daiwa Tatulla heavy duty baitcaster. I've used it a few times and love the action and casting accuracy. You're advice about high sticking is something I've never heard of before. Great advice probably the most practical I've ever had on any video. Thanks again. Tight lines 👍
Thanks so much mate. I have a Diawa Tatula reel and love it. 👍👍
Great video Robbie with great explanation. I have over 70 rods and i always find myself using 2 or 3 favourites and they are always graphite. The old glass ugly sticks were good but you just cant beat the crispness of a high quality graphite rod. I also have that same Rex Hunt black edition rod, its lasted a lifetime lol.
Thanks mate. Those Rex Hunt Black Label rods are amazing aren't they.
G Loomis baitcasters are nice.
And I use shimano raider for cod.
Where expensive rods kick in is fly fishing, up to a point. Fish don't know if your using an expensive rod or a cheap one. Fibreglass is more durable. Graphite is stronger but way more fragile. Go with what you can afford without breaking the budget I say. I'm just as happy flicking out flies with my redington to bombing out bait with my jarvis walker. I must add though my g loomis baitcaster has caught fish way beyond its capacity and capability...if it broke tomorrow I'd be devoed. Its a rod I bought in my 20s. At least 30 years old. To me, its priceless as is my shimano baitrunner reel. Good tips btw and another great video Robbie. Cheers
Thanks so much mate. I agree with everything you said, right down to the Redington. I love Redington 8wt.
My brother swears by reddington great rods
@@caseycameron5370 they were better before bought out by orvis....but still good enough imo. I like redington for fly fishing.
I love my rods as you, Robbie. I’ve fished for years using mainly slow taper, soft rods and short fast tapered bait caster rods. Great video mate.
Thanks so much Wayne. I enjoy using slow taper rods as well.
Gday robbie loved the video and I think your opinion is really great but I do have something to add. As a professional bream fishermen who enters in tournaments and fishes salt water and freshwater allot I find that expensive rods which are lighter and more Sensative are essential Especially when fishing with light line such as 3 pound leader. As well when I go mulloway fishing in estuaries such as the Yarra or docklands I find high end rods in some companies such as penn or shimano do very well with these fish compared to fibreglass, because braid and live bait is pair really well. I definitely agree with the old cheap fibreglass being awesome rods as I think they are, as someone who is 16 and fished for 11 years my first rod was an old ugly stick my dad gave me and it’s still my prised rod. I’m not trying to contradict your argument I just wanted to bring another view to the table. Have an awesome day Robbie and keep up the amazing videos
Thanks so much for your kind words mate, and for the great insight. 👍👍
That was good info thanks Robbie. I'm going to go through my old rods and sort them.
G'day mate, Great video as always. Reminded me of my first graphite rod. It was early nighties on a friday arvo I remember picking it up from Bluey's in Wodonga, had a couple of mates coming around for a beer that night so I could show it of. After passing around my new pride and joy for everyone to admire and envy as we are standing around the kitchen planning our next trip. I lent my new pride and joy against the kitchen bench to grab a beer from the fridge a metre and a half away and slowly watched it slide across the bench hit the kitchen floor and break into three pieces!!
Never saw the water 😬 Never even had a reel put on it. Four kids and I don't know how many rods later, I've never used a graphite rod 😉
Hahaha If we didn't have these types of incidents we wouldn't have stories to tell our mates. LOL 😂
I slammed a G.Loomis in the door of my old Suburu years ago. Haha snap!
Graphite rods are prone to getting micro cracks when banged around. The micro cracks become stress points causing failure. Don't bang your rod on hard stuff and use a rod sock for transport and storage.
Excellent advice. That is so true.
Excellent well explained still got my black queen my most expensive rods are
7’ squiggy stick $150:00
A black max baitcaster $130:00
Bless yah
That's awesome Pete. I still use my dad's old Black Queen Deluxe occasionally. Haha I love it.
Bless you too mate. 🙏🙏
Wow robbie ive been looking for a new winter cod setup, im hoping this will give me some info about what i should get thanks
Thanks Sam, I hope that you find this helpful.
I've got one lightweight graphite rod and lightweight reel to throw on my backpack when I hike, and all my other rods are cheapy Big W fibreglass things that get the job done when weight isn't an issue.
Very informative video, Robbie. I do like when you put out these sort.
Thanks so much for your great feedback mate. 👍👍
Great video Robbie I have a native raider baitcast rod with a 13 tx reel and it’s a ripper combo
Thanks mate, that sounds great.
I learnt something new. Thanks Robbie.
Thanks for watching mate.
Awesome video mate! Totally agree. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks so much buddy. 👍👍
Great video mate as always. And I learnt new things. You are awesome
Thanks so much mate.
i've got a Daiwa graphite spinning rod since the mid-80's and its still chugging along mostly to the advice of the guy in the store that sold it to me- don't raise the tip over your head when its being loaded up. Seriously god bless that man he saved me a fortune! Beautiful casting rod and very light so it's always made carrying it great too. That said I prefer the heavy fibreglass for beach rods as like you mentioned, much tougher and I found its easier to bully around and muscle bigger fish without risking a line snapping as there's so much more leverage and torque.
The greatest breaker of rods though, the car boot closing
Its a horrible noise!
That's so awesome..excellent advice not to lift the rod too high. 👍👍
My everything rod is the ugly stick gx2 any day.. I have 3 of them. 2 solid for in my Ute & 1 break apart for in the family car. I’ve caught every native fish of various size + everything from small Redfin to massive carp. I cannot count the number of trout I’ve caught from rivers & creeks. Shakespeare ugly stick gx2. Unbreakable! 2nd favourite ugly stick black pearl. Another fantastic rod for sitting on the river drowning worms..
Ugly sticks are excellent rods.
Hi Robbie great educational and entertaining video mate 👍👍👍
Thanks Kevin. 👍👍
This video was especially for me 😂, whenever I need a new rod I do sooooooo much research. But I don’t know what material any of them are 😂
Love your works Robbie, tight lines bro 🤙🎣🤙🎣
Haha thanks so much buddy, I'm a bit the same. I just break them down to soft and hard. Fibreglass or graphite. The rest are all variations of these two.
great insight to how it all works
Thanks Robbie I literally broke my blade and tails rod 2 weeks ago but I didn’t high stick it or anything I had cast half the day with it and it was fine then I went to cast it again and it had broken straight through the second eye not sure why or how but something when wrong cheers mate thanks for the info
Gee mate that sounds hectic. I hope your local tackle store looks after you.
Hi Robbie, great presentation, there is one other important feature with grafite rods, they conduct electricity and there's usually a warning sticker on the rod to warn the user.
Thanks mate, that is very true. They're not ideal in a thunderstorm. I never thought to mention that.
Great information. Thanks Robbie. I have learnt something new today.
Thanks for watching and for the great feedback Kev. 👍👍
Learned something new, thank you Robbie!
It's funny how many graphite rods I now own that are about 6-12 inches shorter than when they were made lol. Got most of them for free from guys who had the shits and were about to throw them in the water.
I've got some lacquered cane rods that are more than 70 years old and still good to use in the surf.
My "go to" rigs for most of my fishing now are either a pair of Shimano spinning combos I got for about $200 combined (fibreglass) or a pair of combos I put together from Wish of all places, for about $70 total (one is graphite, the other is fibreglass).
You haven't lived until you slam the tailgate and hear that crunching sound! lol
Hahaha thanks mate. I had a Subaru Forester years ago. I will never forget the sound it made when I closed the back door on a G.Loomis spinning rod. Haha 🤣🤣
@@robbiefishing argh! I can even feel that happening! lol
Darn that crunch...I could hear it while reading this post.
💛...i've got an ultralight spinning setup (5 1/2' rod), graphite, with 2-4# test mono line that i take backpacking...i've had it since the early 80's and with very little maintenance and couple line changes, it's been very good to me... i've also only caught trout on it and my biggest is about 15" so it hasn't seen any monsters... hopefully it'll keep me going for a long time...
That's so awesome Harold..I think they will all last a long time if we look after them properly... Which I don't. LOL 😅
Awesome stuff, very informative 🙂
Thanks so much mate.
Nice video mate! 👍
Thanks mate..👍👍
Thanks for this, it is quite informative. Yeah, I've broken a couple of graphite rods, it doesn't take too much sometimes! These days, for trout and bream fishing, I favour Silstar Crystal Blue tip rods. They are a composite rod and are a great allrounder, they maybe behave a bit more like a fibre glass rod, but they are firmer. They work well as bait rods, and cast pretty well too in my opinion.
Thanks mate, that's awesome. I use a similar rod for trout. Most of the rod is graphite but the top is fibreglass.
I have used Silstar Power Tips for years until fairly recently. Great rods for their purpose and their price bracket.
@@AndrewFishman I love them, the Crystal Blue are a step up from the standard power tip, but they are less common to find in store these days.
nice one Robbie great vid can you do a metal detecting vid or salt water fishing vid
Thanks mate. Metal detecting is more likely than saltwater fishing, just because of where I live. I would probably share the metal detecting video on my second channel though "robbiefishing extra videos".
@@robbiefishing ok I live next to a river and the beach is only like 9 or 10 minutes away from me
@@Futurefirefighterblaze Best of both worlds lol. Nice. I have to drive a couple of hours to the coast, but it is a nice trip, so I don't usually mind it.
That's a very good educational video. Thanks mate.
Thanks so much Bruce. 👍👍
Thanks Robbie, over the years I have always enjoyed your videos and this one was very informative on fishing rods as over the years I have collected many different rods . Keep em coming ! 👍👍🍻🍻
Thanks so much Mark. 👍👍
Iv got a $90 bait caster rod for natives and a midrange reel works a treat
My Ozark trail OTX reel baitcaster for $11.00 on a ugly stick catfish medium heavy power moderate Action rod $17.99 works great. For every thing but trout fishing. There is cheeper stuff out there. I got my Lew's lzr pro baitcaster combo medium heavy power fast Action rod for $39.00 is graffit is sooper light all new. I broke my first rod last year on a trout fishing it was 9 inches by high sticking my rod and broke it and I had it for 10 years. Grab the line first was not paying attention. It is easy to break this new rod's that are graffiti made.
Great upload Robbie, like everyone else in the comments I’d definitely like to see more videos on rods,reels, lines, hooks and sinkers. Anything that’s informative. Keep up the great work mate 👍
Thanks so much mate. 👍👍
Hi robbie could you film a baitcaster guide and do a mitta mitta fishing video when the season opens again on 7th september?
Thanks for the great tips mate. As for the Mitta Mitta, I absolutely love that river. I need to get up there next season.
cheep glass rod with a reasonable real would last you for ever, great vid mate
I agree. Thanks so much mate. 👍👍
Good video mate, very well explained 😎
great vid Robbie
Thanks Dmac. I hope you can get out and wet a line over the weekend mate. 👍👍
Gday Robbie, love your stuff, have you ever done any night fishing at Lake william hovel?. Cheers
Thanks mate, I actually haven't. I have started well before sunrise and finished well after dark but have never fished into the night up there.
Mate ive broken so many graphite rods ive lost count and one broke in my hand with no bend in it turns out a manufacturing fault in the rod i rather use glass rods when bait fishing and graphite rods for lure fishing
Spot on mate, that's my thoughts exactly. Graphite for casting accuracy, fibreglass for bait fishing.
Hi Robbie I still use my original black queen no repairs best rods I love are my shimano black fish old is still good 😅
I also use an original Black Queen Deluxe. I absolutely love it.
thanks mate very informative
Thanks for watching Toby.
NICE greenie at the end there! WHEN did you catch that 1?
Thanks mate. It was in December, about 18 months ago so December 2022 I think.
@@robbiefishing Ok.
hey robbie is the dji action 4 camera saltwater proof thanks
Hi mate, I'm not sure but at a guess I would say it would be, at least as good as any other waterproof camera.
I used to think the same when I lived in North east Victoria, now that I'm on the coast and mainly estuary fishing I wouldn't waste my money on cheap rods.
The cheap rods work in NE VIC mainly because you know what you are going to catch whereas it's pot luck in the estuary and you need that extra reinsurance.
Not to mention component wear on the salt vs fresh.
At Seymour just had a massive cod or carp on nearly snapped my whole rod by then bend on worms then lost it last second didn’t see it tho on a paternoster rig it snapped the hook in Goulburn river what do you think it was
WOW that sounds hectic mate. My guess would be that it was a carp, just because big carp take worms more often than big cod do. I certainly could be wrong through.
I only had 10 pound line on that’s probably why it broke and how do I stop the river flowing taking my setup further down maybe a heavier sinker? And how do target cod sorry it’s alot haha
Good info mate but why did you change the intro??
Thanks mate. Occasionally I will use a different intro just to keep people on their toes. Haha 😂
If you're trying to throw real lightweight a good distance a fiberglass rod is actually going to help fling or sling-shot that lightweight further when casting than a stiff graphite rod would
I agree, but it's hard to do it with any kind of accuracy. Haha
@@robbiefishing Yep, defintely more of a lake setup when you're trying to cover water than a stream or river setup. Tight lines!
Have never broken a graphite rod fishing (car door another story). I prefer the graphite rods for control over larger fish. I personally find the glass rod way too flexible. I only really use my glass rods for bait fishing or whiting, fishing where control of your fish isn't essential.
Thanks mate. There are definitely many advantages to using graphite.
Good stuff 👍
Great video again. I’m fishing a for Redfin tomorrow at evening to sunset however the water looks very dark/black should I use a spinner or is lure colour more important ?
Hi mate, to be honest there's no correct answer. My advice is to take all of your lures and keep changing them until you find what works.
Keep fishing after sunset. That is when the big fellas come out to play :)
Paddle tails, curl tails, spinners, small spinner baits and anything with a bit movement or a rattle should work. I like dark in dark water (Purple, dark reds, dark blues and blacks) for silhouetting but light has its place if the sun is out.
As Robbie says, have a selection of plastic tails and other lures, play until you find their liking. Fish deep at this time of year. They like the deeper holes mostly when the water cools down and you find the big fish schooling near the bottom of these. Fish slowly and with plenty of pauses and speed changes. The fish are not fired up, you have to get them excited. They do play, but you have to convince them the game is worth it.
Have a ball and I hope you catch a bagfull.
I often find myself trying to find old school slow action rods. So much better for bait fishing. I especially miss the fibreglass blanks made by Len Butterworth and Dick Snyder. They were purpose designed with really clever tapers. I wonder what happened to their mandrels? I also think that fast action graphite fly rods suck, unless you're already an expert. I still think that Ugly Sticks are awesome but not cheap. Worth getting on sale if you can.
I agree 100% mate. They are excellent rods.
Robbie I love your videos but I think you are making some over generalisations and missing key factors when talking about glass vs graphite. I’m planing on doing a video on a similar topic too because there is a lot of misconceptions about rod power vs row action and the importance of casting weight etc.
I’ve got 3 high end light tackle spin rods ranging from $240 to $300 and perform as I want them too but have had a few high end rods snap but for a beginner I would be spending $100-$150 fishing rods then as you progress spend more money
Excellent advice buddy. 👍👍👍
@@robbiefishing yep 👍
It's Really about purpose. When you start narrowing down on your style and preferred techniques.. you'll find the rod that does exactly what you need it to to compliment your fishing style is quite expensive.
Wouldn't recommend high end rods for beginners. You don't have your style narrowed down.
I still have a shimano et fishing rod still catches fish love it that's about 30 years old. It's like braid and mono story we all caught fish on mono no dramas it's just the fish companies want to catch fisherman to make more money and before I get judged I also own $500 rods but to me it's the fibreglass are more durable
Thanks Steve, spot on mate I agree. Graphite casts so much more accurately, but graphite is so much more durable.
I've used one graphite rod in my whole life and wasn't a good a look at all snapped it first time I used it. Now all I buy is 20 dollar rod from Kmart or big W they have lasted me a very long time and caught some big fish on it.
Fantastic mate. Graphite is better for casting lures and better for imparting action into lures, but they're certainly not stronger.
Broke my Savage Black Ultralight a few weeks back highsticking a trout to drag her onto the bank. My fault entirely and when I heard the crack and saw the tip hit her in the face, I was totally unsurprised. I said afterward on the vid that I was highsticking and my fault entirely. TBF, that rod copped some punishment. That day alone I had bank flipped half a dozen big trout along the creek and I often got carp on it while fishing for redfin with it. It probably should not have lasted as long as it did lol.
Haha that sounds very similar to the lifestyle of most of my fishing rods mate. I'm terrible at looking after them and have never once blamed the rod manufacturer when they break.
I wish I had a dollar for every time I high stocked a fishing rod when I shouldn't have and broke it. LOL
@@robbiefishing I have seen a few of yours. LOL > And car door at least once.
Good one mate 👍👍👍👍 amazing how many rods and stuff you end up with to do specific targeted fishing. I have bream rods whiting rods light surf heavy surf tailor spinning rods light surf lure rods, bass lure rods the rods I use in the dam etc etc etc hahHahaha
Haha thanks Cam..I'm the same. LOL I have trout rods for lakes, trout rods for rivers (usually shorter), redfin rods, yellowbelly rods, cod rods, all rounders. Haha 😂😂
My first graphite rod didn't last a day . I fell off a large rock and landed on my rod. It snapped in half.
My second graphite was stood on by a child when I was jetty fishing and that was it's last day.
My advice by cheaper glass rods rods .
Haha Graphite rods don't last long in those circumstances. LOL I've broken a few through "mishaps" as well. LOL 🤣
Oooh Robby, going on about soft rods & hard rods! ;oP
Hahahaha
@@robbiefishing ;o)
Love this. Zeppelin is an amazing fisherman but also has an amazing talent for closing car doors/boots on the tip ks of dads graphite fishing rods 😅😂
Hahahaha I closed a door on a G.Loomis years ago. LOL That hurt. Haha
Good video mate good night
Thanks so much Catherine. 👍👍
Serious question Robbie.
When’s the last time you left the go-pro at home and just went fishin?
Has being a content creator negatively impacted on your enjoyment of the sport?
Hi mate, no not at all. I absolutely love it every bit as much as I ever have.
Last year I had an overload of content so I took a week off and still went fishing, but without the camera. Haha
I had a day fishing with my dad and my brother earlier this year and did not film.
Awesome as Robbie
Thanks so much mate.
@@robbiefishing no worries mate.. u all ways put a smile on my face & seeing all your adventures
Note that ROD was fluro white could see it in the darkness.
Does the fish know what type of rod?
Yep. LOL 😂
i just use a big w rod my nan got me years n years ago ive caught big carp with it still use it to this day
Excellent mate. I hope it brings you many more amazing years to come too.
@@robbiefishing the reel is very noisy it needs some oil on it
Not when you're catching carp pal! All of my rods from stickbaiting to blackfish will catch carp, pretty surely I could use a broom handle lol 😂
Haha quite likely but you would want strong line, broomsticks don't bend a lot. LOL 🤣🤣
@@robbiefishing lol if you're using 100lb +line on carp that's gonna be a pb for sure😂
Best rods are made from memories
More expensive Makes a massive difference regarding flyrods iv got a lil 3_4lb sage cost an arm and a leg but boy does it give me quite the chubby 😆
Hahaha
I recently splurged on an $800 Japanese rod and while it is very nice and very light it is not 3.5 times as nice or 3.5 times as light as my $250 rods.... and it certainly doesn't catch me 3.5 times as many fish.
G'day mate, that's amazing..that's exactly what I tell people when they ask me how I like my Shimano Vanford reel. I tell them it's an amazing reel, but definitely not 4 times better than a $100 reel.
@robbiefishing I think it's a lesson I had to learn. I felt like I was missing out on something extra until I bought it.
I don't regret it because it is a very nice rod and it is super versatile but i did find out the sweet spot for me is definitely the mid price point.... you get 99% of the performance at 50% of the price.
Car doors will 100% brake graphite rods LOL learnt a few times
Hahaha I learnt that with a G.Loomis many years ago. LOL 🤣🤣
Big w rod's do the job
The ugly sticks are always good brand for rods
I agree. They're very strong, great bait fishing rods.
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Yes I always ask this 😂😂😂😂🎣👍🇦🇺🤙
The difference between a cheap or dear is how much grief it causes u Robbie when u leave it behind😅
Hahaha facts. LOL 😂😂 Or when you reverse over it..🤣🤣
@@robbiefishing yeah! Or slam the tip in the door! Ha ha!
And then there’s fly gear…. That’s a whole different level of expensive for top end gear
All my rods are shamino raiders and ugly stiks 2of my ugly stiks are 30 years old
Awesome, great rods.
❤😂
Doesn't matter about rod and reel you're using comes down to knowing how to use them and what's on the other end whether it being live/dead bait or lures.
Ever since I went out on my mums friends partners boat and he told me no graphite rods cause they can conduct electricity so now I won’t buy graphite rods cause I’m scared of being struck by lightning 😂 now I have another reason not to buy graphite rods haha
Haha Graphite rods are not great in a thunderstorm. LOL They are VERY good when casting accuracy is important though.
Duffer 😂😂 that’ll learn you for high sticking
A lesson we learn over and over and over... some might think we are idiots. We are.
Hahaha the problem is that it hasn't learned me. I've done it too many times to call it a learning experience. LOL 😅😅😅
I’ve caught just as many fish on handlines.
I hear you, ocean fishing, you can’t beat a hand line.
That's what I thought when Robbie said "Murray Cod rod."
50lb handline. 😂
I don’t agree with your definition of what you’re paying for, strength has nothing to do with the choice…
Sorry mate, I'm not sure what you mean.