The Sad Death of Roc-A-Fella Records
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Dame Dash was in R Kelly's Fiesta Remix music video. He didn't hate R Kelly that much.
He was dating Aaliyah through that time and Jay made a second album “Unfinished Business” after Kelly ‘beat’ the first charges.
That’s a false equivalency.
@@kalync.8232 not at all. He didn’t have to appear in that song’s music video. it wasn’t a rocafella track
@@728wyliejust like gay z screwing a 15 foxy brown. All them r molesters
@@728wylie Yeap a grown man that screw grown women. Not lil girls. I see u and gay z r molester
Glad to see AZ get some recognition. The most underrated.
Do one about Death Row Records
They’ve got one of the most interesting rise and fall stories of any label imo
And YMCMB too!!!
Interscope canceled Death Row after Pac got killed, they wanted to be safe.
DEATH ROW AINT OVA!!!
@@brandonposey2724 Death Row is ova ain't no new hot artist like it was in the 90s
@@terror904 tell da BIG HOMIE
UNCLE S N DOUBLE O P dat bullshit and he’d pimp 👋 a hata wit da chain my guy!! 🤣💪🏽🤣
Jay Z, Dame Dash, Kanye West, Beanie Sigel, Yung Gunz, Camron, Memphis Bleek, And Twista were all successful in different ranks yeah.
You forgot Freeway
Twista wasn’t a Rocafella artist.
@@polyverse1HE WAS AT THE END BUT THATS WHEN ROCAFELLA SPLIT
Which table had better artist? ROC, INC, RYDERS or Bad Boy?
everyone forgets the producers they had
Rocafella fell because of three things
1) Dame's character
2) Too many dead weights (Too many artists whose careers weren't popping despite being spent on)
3) Black owned businesses in America always end up sold... They never last in the hands of the founders.
Cap
Ether was the seed of destruction.
@@uchennasunday7037 Pac wrote Ether.
@@KoreanGingseng hahaha. This the best comment of the week.
@@uchennasunday7037 Look at the lyrics. When did Nas have anything locked since '91?
Excellent presentation my bro . Clean, concise, no distracting music in the background . Simply perfect ! 🙌🏾🙌🏾
He called Vol 1 his debut album
Dame Dash and Suge Knight were the exact same thing. They had the potential to go far but destroyed their own works through pride.
@Confessions Of A Movie Freak directly tbh
They were not the exact same thing, that's why suge is where he is, while Dame is relatively successful
@@Yafetube98 you got that right
Lol. False.
THEY WERE AND ARE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ALIKE!!! In no way, aspect, portion, shape, dimension, consideration, suggestion or thought. Suge was an ignorant clown that knee nothing about anything. He offered nothing but hostility and violence. He was a thief and a criminal with no social redeeming value. Suge knew nothing about music, entertainment or the business... NOTHING!!!
My favorite series on this channel, your reflections and research into Hip Hop lore is alway appreciated
That diplomatic immunity has some of the best hip hop production of all time
Speak on it. One of the best albums of all time.
It's one of those rare times where a double album was a masterpiece
The song by Drake? 🔥
@@Young_Dab No, the album by dipset. Drake was inspired by the Diplomats
FACTS...
The Day Dame admits to his weakness and becomes humble he will shine. You can blame everyone all you want but people use your weaknesses against you so you better recognize it quickly and never let it be your Achilles heel.
Say the same for Jay and I can agree with you . Everyone wants dame to be humble by not Jay I noticed.
He doesn’t need to be humble. He needs to keep shining, that’s who he is
@@ImarBenIsrael It makes sense that Jay has more fangirls. They gonna keep sucking hik off.
The minute after the Roc disbanded, Dame could have become a film MOGUL if he would've just chilled.
I know ppl take advantage of you
Y'all sound like slaves..
This is why all of Jay Z fans have jobs
humble servants
After seeing how Damon acts around wealthy white people it's no wonder Jay got rid of him. He kept scaring the investors away.
There are many wealthy Black (or Non-White) investors in the world too.
@@GDSprodify yes but nowhere near as the whites.
@@GDSprodify in dames time it was all white in the music industry
A double edge sword. What got Jay-Z through before, was eventually holding him back. You can't evolve with folks who refuse to change.
There's something up w/ Dame...theres a reason Curren$y parted ways w/ him after Pilot Talk as well....
Ego was the death of The Roc, Dame couldn’t see it cuz his Gucci shades were too dark and Jay didn’t wanna see it.
Nothing sad if one artist was the only one going platinum.
Im a huge supporter of you HY. Keep up the amazing work i really respect your grind n work ethic fam🤙🏽 much love keep your foot on the gas big bruh💪🏽💯
The picture you used at 0:57 isn't Biggs, thats his brother Robert "Bob A Lob" Burke who passed away in the early 00s.
Bob's a good dude please let him in
@@johnnystlouis8081 I understood that reference
3 Roc-nation billionaires between Jay, Kanye, and Rihanna. That’s wild.
Unfortunately, 3 billionaires who sold their souls to the devil.
She wasnt "allegedly 15" when she was with R Kelly. She was 15.
the girl he peed on? nah yall got it wrong.
she was 14
(im playin i know who ur talking about)
This was hella good. Nice work, bruv 👍🏾🤛🏾
The Roc's death was definitely sad. The Death Row one was simply tragic.
was it really though?
At best, Memphis Bleek and Beanie were ight.
Jay-Z never found a "Drake" so to speak. Kept signing a bunch of pseudo talented thugs.
Even Death Row's fall was straight gangster lol
@@darthnegrus9255 kanye?
@@tayyyyyy5115 I dont think anyone wants that association anymore....
especially Jay 😂👌🏽
@@darthnegrus9255 ...because Kanye would smash Jay. LOL!
Yassine ive been watching for a year now and u gotta level the audios man. I turned up cuz i couldnt hear ur voice well and almost got a heart attack when Vlad interview came up
The most talented person on the roc was M.A.J. - Mark Anthony Jones!
His project got lost when the Roc breakup happened- he only put out one song called- Brooklyn Girl - on the Dream Team album-
The Roc had a Prince/Jimi Hendrix level talent and they completely dropped the ball!
This is what happens when you try to put a bunch of Street - no musical talent- criminals- hustlers and drug dealers in positions of power.
Facts!
What is sad is when you are a artist and have to go threw all that drama outside of making music.
through*
“On September 27th, 2022”????
My man out here predicting the future
That’s the same thing I was thinking about too 😂
Everything just crumbles when ego takes over. Some people cant handle it when peope outshine them. Jay was releasing albums after albums without any apprecation. Every lable with rap related owners always end up like this. Hurting eachother instead of helping
Everything about Rocafella is fuzzy! A lot of information that still don’t make enough sense for all the dramas after the resolve
Great video! @ 0:58 that's not Biggs. That's his brother who passed Bob-a-Lob
In my lifetime wasn’t his debut album
Reasonable doubt was!
It was his first single
Lol I stopped watching after He said that..
Came here looking to see if anybody caught that smfh
Wow, Damon really trying to the dash on Jay with his girls. Stole millions, while smiling in his face too.
I heard ninjas sayin they made HOV, Hov say, ok then, make another Hov!!!!
jay z don't to sign anymore artists because he simply doesn't need to..making music is a hobby for him now
Beanie “single” 😂 I luv HY and his mispronunciations hahahah
that's how you know he is a foreigner they are so random lol
Rockefellerthe drug from NYC, the company was named after. And partial Rockefeller drug laws
At the end of the day everyone speaking up for Dame Dash and his “way” would have made the same choices if:
A) They were running Roc-A-Fella’s partner/parent label
B) Were an artist like Beanie Siegel and watched Dame pull money that could be going toward the artists’ projects over to other ventures. All while he beating his cheat on how much of a “mogul” he is.
Facts: Dame yells and screams to get his way and got $22M for his Roc-A-Wear share.
Jay QUIETLY made THAT deal and sold it for $204M 2 years later.
But, yeah Dame is the genius business mind. I don’t know what it is about him that has people rallying for him, but if they ever tried to do business with someone like him, I bet they would say “oh, now I get it”
The sad part is this is a prime example of greed. This could've been an empire but one person had to have it all.
Great Doc on Hip-Hop history good job
It all comes to an end when lyor dosen't want you anymore.
This was put together well. It gives a needed perspective to this story
Sleeping bag records, cold chillin, jive, def jam, idlers, all were good labels in the 80s and 90s
Sigel didn’t diss Lox to make a name for himself he was just trying to save Jay from them
Save Jay from who the whole nyc was dissinh jay he weren’t worried about no lox
That’s literally the highlight of beans career he don’t have nothing else to
Damn Jay seriously carried the Roc
Just wanna say these are the TH-cam channels I respect and admire, Original, hardwork and well thought out and edited masterfully, Keep up the good work bro, As I start my 2 channels soon, I be damn if mine are steal ya videos, copy and paste channels, Respect and great video 💯👌
P.S. you forgot Dr Dre in that Boyz Club
Great work here Yassine, but saying R. Kells went in 10 days ahead of schedule? My boy calling the future now!
Roc Nation got Meek Mill, Rihanna and a couple of artist more that make this label a success. This says a lot about Jay Z 👏
Props to alladat but where’s Rihanna’s albums? She’s Mia lol
@abdalla2256 she's taking a break from music, cause she's earned the right to. She has other businesses to focus on. But she'll come back when she's ready.
Why is it jayz been the bad guy all this time when they saying damn stole money and was using money out the group to build other brands ????? I been listening to jayz since the 90s and this is my first time hearing that. I was even rocking with jay after the split understanding that people out grow. But it’s like this part was hidden or something.
I actually sat & listened to this. Pretty good Bro. 👍🏽
- Signed 09/25/2022
Sad Death? It's called Growing Up! You have to pivot! J has moved on and is doing more for the culture than just music and Gold etc.
that was the end of his chapter, and thats the guy yall want to name your company after
Man of course it’s a business it ain’t about rap anymore he need employees ain’t nobody gon be bigger than the ceo and if u try u better be ready to play dirty cause they are too
Once Jay Z sold Kanye's Masters, I looked different at him. 🤷🏼 Source: Jeeyuhs doc.
But, not just that, Jay Z definitely sold his soul.
I want to know what really happen.I still haven’t gotten over the break up.
21:04 got me scratching my head. Watching this on the 23rd of September 2022
This was very informative, gave me an insight of both side of the story, as I only heard Dames side first.
Do one YMCMB and Death Row and OVO We Love When Yassine goes professor mode
You mean "the sacrifices jayz has made, to be in the position.. he's in now".
All three owners and founders of Rocafella Records said the aim was to build up the brand and sell it. Reasonable Doubt was supposed to be Jay-Z only album. Some things are just as basic as that not ego, not pride...etc. Just purely business.
I swear I heard bro say “Beanie Single” 😂
He said it more than once. Major cringe.
As an Aspiring Musician & Multi-Business Afrikan Woman, I have a new found Respect for Jay-Z 👏🏿
The Balance between His Art's Greatness & His Business Strategies, Smooth and Wise Maneuver Intelligence is TOP TIER
WHEW🌿
👏🏿🔥
I have a relative who works as an accountant and has dealt with the entertainment industry for over 45 years. He has told me some crazy stories. How the record labels absolutely ENSLAVE the artists and how they prey on the young, eager, up and coming artists. They end up signing away their masters. Their music. Their art. Owning your publishing is so so so important. You make nothing from streams or downloads or cds
My favourite artist is Trent Reznor, who is Nine Inch Nails, and in 2008 he came up with an amazing way to sell music. Look up what he did with the instrumental album Ghosts and the album The Slip. Basically he gave it away and then produced a series of editions that he directly sold. So for 10€ you get the high quality download and cd. For 100€ you get that and a signed art book. For 300€ you get the cd, art book, prints and vinyl etc... He basically paid upfront for a series of limited edition packages and then sold them direct. It sold out in hours.( Fun fact, Ghosts 34 - 4 was used for Old Town Road...)
The famous story of course about rights is when Michael Jackson bought a huge amount of Beatles publishing. Which means every time the music is used in a film or tv show... Or even played on the radio... HE got paid. Not Lennon and McCartney. Prince went through a war with Warners. For a while he couldn't use his name...i mean that's his NAME but due to the terrible contract... Warners owned all commercial rights to it.
When a label owns your music and works out how to take most of your publishing...they can sell it to any company or entity who wants to use it, can re release your albums, remix them etc and you get virtually no money and no say whatsoever. Like if you are a vegetarian and you sign a deal where the label owns the rights? They can license that music for a slaughterhouse advert and you can do NOTHING.
It's a terrible, awful thing and these '360 deals' are even worse. Before those you made money on merchandise and playing live. You print up a few thousand tshirts, make a few patches, badges and posters. You get them cheaper the more you order. You go on your tour, put a guy behind the merchandise table and sell the stuff at a huge profit... Say you buy a tshirt at 1.50€-2.00€...you sell for 25€...a poster costs you 0.50€ and it sells for 10€...you make a nice bit of money on top of the tour....
Now the labels have these 360 deals where they take a cut of your merchandise, your tours, your TV appearances, your brand deals...before if you got paid to drink Evian water in public or mention it... That was down to you and your manager...now the label will take a % even though they've done nothing.
It's a very harsh, nasty, greedy industry that preys on people. Jay was right. You got to be willing to do it all yourself. Invest in yourself and don't give in for the short term benefits. Always think about the long term.
I wish you and your career all the best Mishu and I hope you get where you want to be 👍 all the best and ☀ ✌️ From 🇮🇪
@@mccarthy5825 ThankYou SO MUCH for this👏🏿👏🏿
Your Breakdown Perspective is really Insightful and has a confirmed a lot for Me.
ThankYou so much
More Lyf, Strength & Warmth✨
Much Love 🇰🇪
Dame was too much he was too hype and couldn't speak business cuz he always in his feelings 😂😂
Surprised Dame gets so much blame, Jay Z ended it and he was always going to end it. Throughout his career he would social climb and stand next to the hottest rapper (Jazz, Kane, Biggie, etc).
The end result shows that he was doing the right thing. He was in it for longevity and that wouldn’t have happened if he would’ve allowed dame to keep doing what he was doing. Lesson learned…Jay can now give his children the world
man fr ppl get really delusional and make a lot of passes for a guy who was rarely ever considered the best rapper.
Bruh Jay Z only puts himself up there with the greats, no one actually looks at him like that in reality which is crazy
@@senorchurro6954 what’s crazy is you getting on here and really saying what you just said 🤣🤦🏽♂️
@@senorchurro6954 hmm overall really look at JayZ as one of the best rappers overall. Not to protect him cause I have another view on it too but most dudes will name you this Names Nas, Em, JayZ, Big and Pac when it comes to their "fav" or "best" rappers! Jayz overall is just a fraud as they all are. He had invested in 2 alcoholic brands and it wasnt succesful, Tidal wasnt making it and he leaked wrong win numbers and for the rest idk why he was becoming a billionaire. Maybe some political parties were paying him. money cause I cant really figure out why he has more money than his wife.
Doe or die, showed the cover for Doe or Die II
Freeway and Young Gunz debut albums went gold
You have skewed details & missing details that throw the whole big picture off. Not to say that Rocafella didnt go out sad.
Definitely amateur producing on this video
Inform us man, what did he miss or skew?
@@sifeziwempanza9987 All u gotta do is read the comments. This video was horribly inaccurate, right from jump
Yes they did go out bad
Love watching your content grow 💯
The Roc is still alive
21:07…. September 27 2022 hasn’t excited yet wtf r u talking bout ?
Thank you for that insight bro it was interesting know a lot of things make sense
GREAT JOB....ON THIS PIECE 🎥🎥👏🏿👏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿💯💯💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
The amount of talent signed to Rocafella over the years is unreal. In the early 2000s you had Beanie Sigel, Kanye West (when he was actually a decent artist), Freeway, Camron, Peedi Crakk, NORE, MOP, Joe Budden, Nicole Wray, Denim, Allen Anthony and Young Gunz among others. Now that is what I call one heck of a line up. A shame they're not around any more, really miss them times.
And not a single one of those (except Kanye) is still relevant today. This was a shitty label, jay couldn't develop another artist because he was too busy trying to develop himself. People need to realize that people like jay are toxic - no one comes up through him.
@@tonystark19631 yeah, while I do not agree with Kanye Wests political views, there are no doubts he is a musical genius. Jay was afraid of those above mentioned rappers because they were better than him. People like him and Beyonce are two self-centred narcissists, who shouldn't bother promoting other artists whatsoever. Kanye may be hip hops most hated man but Jay is by no means perfect. Also, he should never criticise Kanye for discriminatory behavior, because him & Dame Dash actually didn't want to sign Kanye because he wasn't a street guy and hadn't grown up dirt poor. Now THAT is discriminatory in itself - in a classist way. That is like telling someone from a poor background that they shouldn't be allowed into a golf club or sailing because that is a 'rich mans sport'. Rap is an art form, nothing more, anyone with talent should be entitled to do it.
mid central
I mean until really recently hip hop was a real flavor of the month genre.
@@tonystark19631 only enough to get Jay albums off they where the Bestsellers on the Label 🏷️🏷️🏷️
Every song on reasonable doubt is fire
This was really insightful, Thanks!!
I used to think that Jay did them dirty but now I don't, this vid gave me a much better perspective.
U swear it like they hid this part. I was riding with jay regardless because I seen how dame was acting back then. But even beans was saying damn was stealing and using money to build other brands. I believe him because I remember other brands damn was pushing but jay and the rest of the roc wasn’t.
💯
Beans breaks the whole thing down 💯
Imagine being a record label that said no to Jay Z.
😂
No regrets
Such an inspiration of American music from An African brother we should call him 👑
IMO: Jay-Z is the most severely OVERRATED rapper of all time.
Thank you. There's absolutely nothing that makes him unique or special. He's just said "greatest rapper alive enough times that it stuck but it's so far from true. Biggie is no2 overrated. He's got 2 albums and people think he's a goat. Nonsense. Nas is another.
@@brandondrew4914 Agreed! 🤜🏾🤛🏾
Honestly as a business man yes.............
But the best rapper? Hmmm
you understand big died right it’s not like he just decided to stop making music. he was something insane at that time and was the best rapper alive at that time and was killed as a kid basically when he just got started
and while i don’t agree nas is even a top 5 that’s my own personal taste, most people in the game consider illmatic to be a perfect album that’s why he’s in the goat conversation. it’s a good album. i don’t know why you equivocate quantity with quality
Nothing sad about it…people move on and not everyone’s business acumen or perspectives align.
Jay wanted to be a corporate billionaire, Dame wanted to be a street dude with money that gets his hands dirty. There’s levels to this.
Very well explained. One of the best explanations on JayZ and dame.
Mos Def said it best in 'The Rape Over.'
"A tall Israeli is runnin' this rap shit." [Talking about Cohen]
Marcis Garvey said “Black people will be respected only when. “We’re independently and economically $trong within the framework of white capitalism”. We should stop fighting this internal war amongst ourselves. PLU$H (Peace, Love, Unity, Strength & Harmony). We need to go back to our linerage. The basics (Love for our fellow brothers). Caucasians and Asians have that over us. 💪🏽🌞🆙
22:41 it’s like Dame got extreme Karma for hitting on jays girl and everything else goin on
Or Jay was petty and got his own revenge. Karma is cosmic, happens on its own. Jay definitely plotted on Dame. Ijs. 🥴
One thing you don't take into account and it's one that messed up a lot of rap groups in the late 2000's is file sharing and illegal digital downloading off TH-cam.. . That is the main reason most gangster rappers died. Million dollar record deals that they had to pay back, Tied up in contracts they can't get out of.
WOW REALLY DOPE DOCUMENTARY WELL DONE LAD !!!!
Here come somebody that knows nothing about a situation who clearly wasn’t there
Reasonable doubt the best jay album to me.
How is the blueprint ONLY 2x plat
It should of went triple platinum easily
that’s what it was at 10+ years ago
Semptember 27 2022 lol got your dates wrong buddy
09:53 For the life of me I can't remember. What track is that in the back ground? Cheers!
Look at me now Beanie Sigel
I thought the article on Jay-Z was very interesting. I was never a fan of his music but for a couple of songs I was more in admiration of and proud of his business accomplishments. He made a good business decision in marrying Beyonce because together they make an awesome power couple. In the entertainment world marriages are normally decided on whom you marry and what they can bring to the table.
Great research about Rocafella Records.
Nas was definitely better than Jay
I don't think definitely better but it's close as a pure mc I won't dispute that but as an artist definitely hov
Lyrically but Jay had both lyrics and musicality and better choice of beats
I'm going to say definitely because Jay-Z get busy now between these two all time greats the one thing i would say is as an mc/ rapper if you say is better its close but nas is better storyteller than Jay-Z I have to admit but as an artist I got hov bro because like he can lyrical records he got songs to make you dance and think
Without a doubt Nas is better than Jay Z and many more lyricists in the 50 years of Hip Hop. Nas in my opinion is the most underrated hip hop lyricist ever
Was?! Nas still is.
If you know Jay Z the name rocafella is a double entendre. It references the family, but also the street dude named rocks fella. I know you heard ether
You said R Kelly was found guilty on September 27, 2022 the day in writing this is September 22, 2022 might wanna edit that
You put up a picture that isn’t even biggs not even a minute in. I’m out of here.
Great videos!¡! But looking at this video now makes me wonder if Jay might have had a hand in Aaliyahs demise. He would have felt extremely betrayed. Things that makes you go uhmmm
Reasonable Doubt, classic, shoulda went triple
Jay z came to them guys and told them get in the studio because 50 cent was about to come like a tornado 🌪 and 50 did just that
These record labels thought in the beginning that rap would follow Disco now they know a whole lot Dame was like NO ITS OUR CULTURE
21:03 I'm assuming the year was a typo?
DJ Clue went Platinum with The Professional
Big L and jay z freestyle was the best
Times change. 2pac wouldn’t be as popular today if he were still alive. The style and everything changes. Roc a fella had the late 90s/early 2000s sound. Look where rap is today. It would of fell off no matter what. Nobody wants to hear todays stuff, and nobody sure wants to hear people in their 40s and higher rapping what a 17 year old does.
Tupac is still more popular today l.
To people that’s middle aged. Even then he isn’t that popular with people in their 20s. A whole lot of people that’s not 30 and up can even name more then just a handful of songs by him.
They'd have signed who they needed to sign to stay relevant
@@Munchman1 as does every record label. But 2pac wouldn’t be popular today as he use to be.
@@user-im7jn6ob3g I think you're right there, especially if he had outbursts and accusations like he did in 90s. That was brushed aside back then
You skipped when Jay Z was part of a group called Original Flava
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