T4 cheaper to heal per unit, but over time you spend more speed ups on them due to putting more of them into the hospital. The mixed tier troops I've been told/heard about was 3/4 T5 1/4 T4 until people start to max tech in kvk then the trades start to not be as good. Also have to take into account cutting edge kvk buff were T5 will take less sevs from lower tier units and I think it also counts T4 into this but I'm not 100% sure on this. Bilegt did a video about T4 vs T5 and came to the conclusion if you got a lot of farms but not much time, go T5, otherwise go T4.
@@MrSiegeOfficial It's always worth testing even if the math is done, as there are always factors you can't account for and different mechanics. Especially how 99% of the time towers will only take ranged counter attack damage which may give different results to the traditional marches and the set ups people used to use. So your testings will always be of use even if all it does is prove the math correct.
My kvk with a 2nd seige march just wrapped up a week ago. I found that, even running t5 seige, I used less resources and speedups than previous kvk's, while getting much better results. I dumped my archer marches in 2024 and retooled with two Engineering. I am convinced that seige is more efficient, with better results. I'm so convinced that I swapped for John and Stephen to run 3 seige, 2 infantry and one Cav on the field in our next kvk. Thanks for exploring new ideas. 👍
You know, the new 6 marchs in lost canyon is sucky for us low spenders f2p. But one benefit is that I’ve got to put the epic Sidge commanders to use as a 6th march while I work on some other stuff in the meantime. It’s preforming quite well under all the circumstances and I’m quite happy
i played 2x pair siege (Margaret+Cordoba gold eq t5, Gaja+Barbur purple eq t4). T5 - give more kills in shorter time, more time hospital, more rss for heal. T4- give higher rate % report, less time hospital, less rss for heal, but also less kills -almost 3-4x less than T5. For me was good tactic ... put t4 in front of t5.. when they swarm my t4 i had time for run with my t5 :) so im agree to mix t4 and t5 but not 50%50% but 1 army t4 and 1 army t5, its realy save rss and speeds:)
I wonder if putting any amount of t1 can be beneficial maybe? 🤔 The first cast is always the slowest, so maybe have t1 die in the first rounds and then when it starts casting faster your t4/5 will trade better / cost less?
T4 will trade good and save a lot of rss, but you get not that much better trades. And kvk tech and everything that gets stats is dependend on the troops base stats. T5 have higher base stats.
Keep in mind that trades aren't important as well. It's important to push back the enemy and win fights. If you just want "the best kill ratio" then it's your best choice to go be a farm hunter and only kill that way. These kills give insane ratios. But it won't win you war. Sometimes you have to fight with bad ratios even to save a flag and stop the enemy.
T4 cheaper to heal per unit, but over time you spend more speed ups on them due to putting more of them into the hospital. The mixed tier troops I've been told/heard about was 3/4 T5 1/4 T4 until people start to max tech in kvk then the trades start to not be as good.
Also have to take into account cutting edge kvk buff were T5 will take less sevs from lower tier units and I think it also counts T4 into this but I'm not 100% sure on this.
Bilegt did a video about T4 vs T5 and came to the conclusion if you got a lot of farms but not much time, go T5, otherwise go T4.
@@lionheart1983 thanks for the info buddy, I thought someone had probably done the maths on this before
@@MrSiegeOfficial It's always worth testing even if the math is done, as there are always factors you can't account for and different mechanics. Especially how 99% of the time towers will only take ranged counter attack damage which may give different results to the traditional marches and the set ups people used to use. So your testings will always be of use even if all it does is prove the math correct.
My kvk with a 2nd seige march just wrapped up a week ago. I found that, even running t5 seige, I used less resources and speedups than previous kvk's, while getting much better results.
I dumped my archer marches in 2024 and retooled with two Engineering. I am convinced that seige is more efficient, with better results. I'm so convinced that I swapped for John and Stephen to run 3 seige, 2 infantry and one Cav on the field in our next kvk.
Thanks for exploring new ideas. 👍
You know, the new 6 marchs in lost canyon is sucky for us low spenders f2p. But one benefit is that I’ve got to put the epic Sidge commanders to use as a 6th march while I work on some other stuff in the meantime. It’s preforming quite well under all the circumstances and I’m quite happy
I am a Cav main, now siege to😏
@@robertvandeboom3935 let’s goooo
@@MrSiegeOfficial got a budget set rn but will invest more later
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@@robrodriguez1037 thanks ☺️
9:59 yea i agree, White Paper with Babur is meta 😂
i played 2x pair siege (Margaret+Cordoba gold eq t5, Gaja+Barbur purple eq t4). T5 - give more kills in shorter time, more time hospital, more rss for heal. T4- give higher rate % report, less time hospital, less rss for heal, but also less kills -almost 3-4x less than T5. For me was good tactic ... put t4 in front of t5.. when they swarm my t4 i had time for run with my t5 :) so im agree to mix t4 and t5 but not 50%50% but 1 army t4 and 1 army t5, its realy save rss and speeds:)
That's a good tip
lol this video comes out as soon as. I statt researching t5 siege 😅
@@zkx2417 lol don’t worry watch the video
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Wait wait wait, so are you telling me that my favorite siege pair John + Babur win against the WW + Liu Che?
@@korion1569 most siege do lol
@MrSiegeOfficial My goooood i love siege
I think I'll work on my sixth step a commander seat Gajah and cordoba?
I wonder if putting any amount of t1 can be beneficial maybe? 🤔
The first cast is always the slowest, so maybe have t1 die in the first rounds and then when it starts casting faster your t4/5 will trade better / cost less?
@@danbstep I wondered too lol
Can you put time stamps? About what are you talking about in that time
@@anis2642 I’m a creator noob
@ 😂 we all born noob
Where can I get it siege equipment sett?
Im in season 1
Let me ask, which is the strongest pair of construction generals right now?
My Siege march is my only pure T5, all other marches i run a 60/40 mix T5/T4 its much more cost efficient
in kvk we have debuff for T4, thats not same if you test in AOO
@@SameHiu I didn’t know that, what debuff?
@@MrSiegeOfficial lower tier will get a small number of kills when attacking the troop tier above it. Debuff from step 1 ruin fortress
T4 will trade good and save a lot of rss, but you get not that much better trades.
And kvk tech and everything that gets stats is dependend on the troops base stats. T5 have higher base stats.
Keep in mind that trades aren't important as well. It's important to push back the enemy and win fights.
If you just want "the best kill ratio" then it's your best choice to go be a farm hunter and only kill that way. These kills give insane ratios. But it won't win you war.
Sometimes you have to fight with bad ratios even to save a flag and stop the enemy.
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You pay less hospital bill when mixing t4 and t5..good for low spend players
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Try T1
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