I thought I was crazy for experiencing the "second listener" effect. Simply by showing your work to another person will change how YOU hear it. Mistakes you never heard will jump out. LOL it's crazy.
I thought i was crazy too, it's kind of amazing. Also when you're collaborate you often here the same thing at the same time with your partner if you're well connected.
I'm on the autism spectrum (very low level) and some how I feel like it helps. I think very matter of factly apparently, and it always allows me to be very objective. Oh, also loads of self-consciousness helps one listen through someone else's ears because you're always self critical anyway, LOL
It doesn't work for me as well. I'm the one that usually points out things no one else can hear. It would be nice to find someone that hears like me. Every time I point out mistakes people are like I didn't even notice that but to my ears, it's usually noticeable.
13:50, this is 100% true, that sort of "hearing vicariously" through someone else's ears is something I've definitely noticed before
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As a musician, it works exactly the same way: you practice and practice a piece until it's perfect. The moment you play it for someone else, you realize about obvious things that you were missing.
All of these videos are outstanding. Simply brilliant. They have helped me quantify my tracks, and understand that loudness isn't everything. Thank you.
here in 2021 hearing "what the stimulus is" @ 0:28 secs made me check the date lol the beat drop made it even more dramatic lol pandemic prophecies Alfred Hitchcock style... great vid by the way nice material
I absolutely agree with the tip of bringing in another person to listen to the mix. I don't know why, but when someone new is listening you become hyper-aware of all of the sounds...and issues magically present themselves.
My solution to mastering is I go to cinemas that play summer blockbusters and ask them if I can master my mixes on their system. I sit in the middle row and get to work. In all seriousness : that series is awesome.
Thank you iZotope for working with Jonathan Wyner to share this very important knowledge. I've been watching so many videos on learning the art of mixing & mastering & nothing has been so clear & helpful as this series! I appreciate your efforts in helping us all to better our creative work & the music that is going out into the universe! Peace + Love! =)
I like this series. Jonathan is a good communicator and his pace is good for me. Mainly so far at least it is not over technical for my level (hobby). Thanks you.
Thank you Jonathan. You give Izotope pluggin a great value with your educative video. Thank you Izotope to bring to us Jonathan 's advices. Probably one of the best of this era.
This video is spot on! 👌 I love that thing you said about inviting someone in to listen. I like to get up and go to the other room and listen thru the wall, especially with little tweaks I get stuck on. Something about hearing not from that first reflection point has always helped me figure things out. I've always been more of a mixer but do some mastering, it's def a different job!
gotta say this is a great series! finally not only about gear/plugins, more about how you listen and perceive music! more about acoustics and the room and what we hear! i've been working in this business for a while now and still can learn a lot from these videos! fresh start :)
The trick you explain at 13:30 is something that I've observed countless times over the years. Having someone else next to you in the room somehow changes our perception, it's amazing. Great series!
Happens in exactly the same way with writing in the academic world. Literally the moment you know someone else is about to read your work, you see it differently.
That is so interesting about having another person in the room and how it changes your brain! I experience that when I play a song I have done to someone and all of a sudden I am hearing things I didn't notice before. Thank you for sharing that.
WoW!.. Thank you! You have explained everything that I need to know to get to the next level 😃 You have drawn a line in the sand as to Mastering/Mixing .. YES!!
To me recording is like drawing a 2d square. Mixing is like taking the 2d square and adding the dimensions to make it a cube. Mastering is then taking the image of the cube adding shading and color in the right places and amounts to the point where you'd think you could literally grab the image the cube off the paper on your desk
1:48 sounds like the sample in 'Make Believe' by Juice WRLD and in the end he was the reason why I started making music and watching this video right now.
Thank you for your videos, it is so nice to hear something clever (and calm) online for a change ;-) I remember sitting in Big shot A&R executives offices, listening to my productions and thinking "I should have change this or that" ...now I use my wife's ears as a mirror to challenge my decisions in the composition-writing-mix process lol
Thank you for the lessons thus far. The more information shared only brings out the best in everyone. Please continue to teach, as your method is perfect for your audience.
Great and comprehensive video indeed! Yet, I wouldn't dare using the mobile phone app to measure the sound pressure level in such a serious facility as mastering room is.
Thanks for this video. Excellent information. Y'all are incredible. The video mentions measuring decibel levels aiming for 85 during reference track playlist playback. The suggestion is to use the cell phone app meters to measure the level from speakers. But the video also discusses mastering with headphones. What are some good ways to measure the decibel level when mastering with headphones?
I didn’t hear you mention the “ once past the ear “ method or whether you prefer near - field or mid - field monitors or horizontal or vertical near - field NS 10’s but this is very educational, thank you 🙏
Great video! I've got a question, 85db sounds very loud in my small room. I've heard with smaller rooms and smaller speakers a lower listening level is better, is this correct?
Spectral Analysis and Fourier- Transformation can really help a lot in getting what you want. But still, it requires a good amount of knowledge in physics and a little of electronics too.😅. But again, the tips in the video can also take you to a decent level.👍
Thank you for the awesome series. Could we get some references examples for electronic music? Im always finding it hard to agree on one sound. Electronic music producers tend to all have different ideas of what the tonal balance of lets say Progressive House may be.
I thought I was crazy for experiencing the "second listener" effect. Simply by showing your work to another person will change how YOU hear it. Mistakes you never heard will jump out. LOL it's crazy.
I thought i was crazy too, it's kind of amazing. Also when you're collaborate you often here the same thing at the same time with your partner if you're well connected.
It's so true. I'll make pages of mix notes before I play the mix back for the client and as soon as I hit play for them, I'm making pages more.
I'm on the autism spectrum (very low level) and some how I feel like it helps. I think very matter of factly apparently, and it always allows me to be very objective.
Oh, also loads of self-consciousness helps one listen through someone else's ears because you're always self critical anyway, LOL
This is so true
It doesn't work for me as well. I'm the one that usually points out things no one else can hear. It would be nice to find someone that hears like me. Every time I point out mistakes people are like I didn't even notice that but to my ears, it's usually noticeable.
Thank you for making this series. These videos are outstanding and very helpful.
our ways are crossing o_O
love your music!
Jonathan is a great teacher. Very calm and clear, straight to de point.
13:50, this is 100% true, that sort of "hearing vicariously" through someone else's ears is something I've definitely noticed before
As a musician, it works exactly the same way: you practice and practice a piece until it's perfect. The moment you play it for someone else, you realize about obvious things that you were missing.
Oh. My. God. This series is gold.
This song used for illustrative purposes is a low key banger!
honestly lol
Does anyone know what it is called?
having someone come in on a mixing or mastering session DOES have a huge immediate effect on how one hears it.. it is magical!
These two episodes are brilliant. This guy should be proud of the sheer number of people he'll influence for the better.
Jonathan Wyner, a name I can trust. New producer like me, and all the experienced producer will be benefited from this. 🙏
1:00 translation issues
4:00 crossfeed
8:30 keeping a constant volume setting
10:20 85 dBSPL
17:30 picking colourless transparent gear
Out of all disciplines, finding videos on learning how to master my mix have always been the hardest and most elusive to find-¿!?
Thank you sir-
I just have to say thank you for this series. Everything I was never taught in my music production course. Just incredible insights.
Thank You Sir ! I literally gave up and I get demotivated... But now it's totally different I feel so motivated
The most soothing video about mastering ever made.
13:30 is such a great piece of advice. Very well said!
All of these videos are outstanding. Simply brilliant. They have helped me quantify my tracks, and understand that loudness isn't everything. Thank you.
+1 for the 'second listener effect' ... one of the most astonishing things I discovered in making music... :-)
here in 2021 hearing "what the stimulus is" @ 0:28 secs made me check the date lol the beat drop made it even more dramatic lol pandemic prophecies Alfred Hitchcock style... great vid by the way nice material
I absolutely agree with the tip of bringing in another person to listen to the mix. I don't know why, but when someone new is listening you become hyper-aware of all of the sounds...and issues magically present themselves.
My solution to mastering is I go to cinemas that play summer blockbusters and ask them if I can master my mixes on their system. I sit in the middle row and get to work.
In all seriousness : that series is awesome.
Really outstanding!!!!
You really get it from the scratch to the top!
The sound meter advice is just aaaawesome thanks!
Thank you iZotope for working with Jonathan Wyner to share this very important knowledge. I've been watching so many videos on learning the art of mixing & mastering & nothing has been so clear & helpful as this series! I appreciate your efforts in helping us all to better our creative work & the music that is going out into the universe! Peace + Love! =)
This man is very knowledgeable. I really wish I could just sit down 1 on 1 and take notes and ask questions and just shadow him. Man if only
I like this series. Jonathan is a good communicator and his pace is good for me. Mainly so far at least it is not over technical for my level (hobby). Thanks you.
I am happy that you are using Samplitude Pro. An underrated DAW I like to use for years.
Thanks guys. These vids are super helpful. 👏
Couldn't get any better... nice guy, good advice, awesome series, great package all round really.
You are a very, easily understood teacher- Bravo sir!
13:30 THIS IS THE BIG MONEY TIP BOYS!!!!!
this made me fix soo much stuff soo many times its crazy u actually noticed that
Thank you Jonathan. You give Izotope pluggin a great value with your educative video. Thank you Izotope to bring to us Jonathan 's advices. Probably one of the best of this era.
This video is spot on! 👌 I love that thing you said about inviting someone in to listen. I like to get up and go to the other room and listen thru the wall, especially with little tweaks I get stuck on. Something about hearing not from that first reflection point has always helped me figure things out. I've always been more of a mixer but do some mastering, it's def a different job!
dropping BARS on these videos. a decade ago some would have looked down upon sharing this info outside of an institution.
Thank you so much! ❤️
That is a brilliant trick you have there! Thank you!
gotta say this is a great series! finally not only about gear/plugins, more about how you listen and perceive music! more about acoustics and the room and what we hear! i've been working in this business for a while now and still can learn a lot from these videos! fresh start :)
13:48 it's amazing how that really works!
Thanks for all the knowledge and insides shared within those amazing free tutorial series! Keep them up and coming! Much love!
Wow...this info is insane. I love iZotope software so a big shout out to the guys for these great vids.
Fantastic series.
You are impressively brilliant and an excellent instructor. Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge.
The trick you explain at 13:30 is something that I've observed countless times over the years. Having someone else next to you in the room somehow changes our perception, it's amazing. Great series!
Happens in exactly the same way with writing in the academic world. Literally the moment you know someone else is about to read your work, you see it differently.
This is invaluable. Thanks so much for making these videos!
Another brilliant episode full of so much great advice. Thank you.
That is so interesting about having another person in the room and how it changes your brain! I experience that when I play a song I have done to someone and all of a sudden I am hearing things I didn't notice before. Thank you for sharing that.
Great tips. Super useful info and a great compliment to the plugins.
Thank you.. Very polite/gentle manner of teaching..
WoW!.. Thank you! You have explained everything that I need to know to get to the next level 😃
You have drawn a line in the sand as to Mastering/Mixing .. YES!!
To me recording is like drawing a 2d square. Mixing is like taking the 2d square and adding the dimensions to make it a cube. Mastering is then taking the image of the cube adding shading and color in the right places and amounts to the point where you'd think you could literally grab the image the cube off the paper on your desk
What a great visual representation. Nicely done.
Love these video series, well done guys !!
13:48 this is an interesting phenomenon and so true!
Great videos and great explanations.
Solid advice!... Great examples too. Thank you again!
Great series, trully educational!
1:48 sounds like the sample in 'Make Believe' by Juice WRLD and in the end he was the reason why I started making music and watching this video right now.
Thank you for your videos, it is so nice to hear something clever (and calm) online for a change ;-) I remember sitting in Big shot A&R executives offices, listening to my productions and thinking "I should have change this or that" ...now I use my wife's ears as a mirror to challenge my decisions in the composition-writing-mix process lol
This was so good, I had to watch it twice! Thank you guys! 🙏
13:38 love this idea
Jonathan is the GOAT
Superb advice many many thanks.
Thank you so much, that you share all your knowledge and experience. It´s a gift.
Shouldn't your SPL meter be set at dBc? C weighted for this kind of referencing?
These episodes are are pure gold! Thank you much!
Thank you very much for these condensed, easy to comprehend tips. Extremely helpful! Respect!
Thank you for the lessons thus far. The more information shared only brings out the best in everyone. Please continue to teach, as your method is perfect for your audience.
What dB weighting are you using for the 85dB target?
Pure gold!
This is awesome stuff. Please continue this series!
Great ideas and techniques!!!!Thanks for sharing
thanks to all for these amazing videos, great pieces of advice!
Golden advice!!
13:50 YES! That's totally weird and a real thing
Thanks. Very helpful indeed.
Amazing videos!!! Thank you!
This series is amazing!
I wish I knew how to measure the DB volume of my headphones. I wonder how close or far off I am from 85.
Gems bro! He's dripping the sauce!!
Appreciated. I am hearing some advice I have never heard before, regarding this topic. Big thanks for the time and effort in this new series.
Great and comprehensive video indeed! Yet, I wouldn't dare using the mobile phone app to measure the sound pressure level in such a serious facility as mastering room is.
I recently purchased Neutron 2 and Ozone 8. I can't wait to start using them and get better mixes/masters. Thanks for the video :)
Amazing info thank you kindly
Thanks for this video. Excellent information. Y'all are incredible. The video mentions measuring decibel levels aiming for 85 during reference track playlist playback. The suggestion is to use the cell phone app meters to measure the level from speakers. But the video also discusses mastering with headphones. What are some good ways to measure the decibel level when mastering with headphones?
I didn’t hear you mention the “ once past the ear “ method or whether you prefer near - field or mid - field monitors or horizontal or vertical near - field NS 10’s but this is very educational, thank you 🙏
Wonderful series. Thank you for these...
Great video! I've got a question, 85db sounds very loud in my small room. I've heard with smaller rooms and smaller speakers a lower listening level is better, is this correct?
Thank you sir for making this kind of series . These video clear my all confusions and make me more confident Thank you so much Sir
This series is great!
Wow. I am amazed. Cool series.
Thanks for sharing the knowledge. This was very helpful!!!!
THIS IS GOLD.
Spectral Analysis and Fourier- Transformation can really help a lot in getting what you want. But still, it requires a good amount of knowledge in physics and a little of electronics too.😅. But again, the tips in the video can also take you to a decent level.👍
this is amazing, there's just so many little real value info on youtube, thankss
Finally learned something new (On TH-cam) after 1 or 2 years, thanks for those tips.
Great presentation again! VERY informative for established professionals and beginners alike!
Had to come back for more.
Thank you for the awesome series. Could we get some references examples for electronic music? Im always finding it hard to agree on one sound. Electronic music producers tend to all have different ideas of what the tonal balance of lets say Progressive House may be.
Lots of love man❤❤
super on point, thanks
Dicas valiosas de quem sabe!!
good info thanks !
Thanks sir your experience and Technics are great
Excellent !! Thank you so much
13:45 That!!! Happens to me every time!!! So weird but it's true