This Shredder was pretty cool. Imagine Ch'Rell the Utrom still being on Earth & impersonating Oroku Saki/The Shredder when the Tengu Shredder was revived. At least through Tempus Fugit (the last episode of Fast Forward, but also the 1st episode of Back to the Sewer), we got to see what a fight between the 2 different Shredders would've looked like.
Agreed. The problem though is that there would have been no plausible way the Turtles and co would have won-especially if the Tengu Shredder got ahold of Krang's technology from Weapon X. You wouldn't want to know what hell he would have caused if the Demon Shredder got ahold of the Technodrome.
part2: Tengu, is self explanitory and cyber shredder would have hacked the technology better than his original utrom form and probably easily made the turtles dissappear. Tengu probably would have combined his ancient magic with it and cause them all to die with him somehow still existing and then just remade a tengu world
@DevilRaptorB , I think they created the Demon Shredder to shut the fans up who didn't like the Utrom Shredder reveal and wanted him as human. Once that objective was completed, they decided to kill him off as they prefered the Utrom Shredder obviously-If you watched the Turtles Forever movie you would notice that they refered to Ch'Rell as the true shredder and made no mention of the Tengu Shredder throughout the whole thing. Why couldn't the writers to see that Ch'Rell concept was lame?
Agreed, my friend. I personally believe that Ch'Rell should have been a separate character outside of the Shredder concept because all he basically is is just a meaner version of Krang. They should have just kept the Shredder as badass human. This is similar to if they made the Green Goblin, Venom or Dr. Octopus, who are Spiderman's arch-enemies, into Skrull aliens? Do you know how much the Spider-fans would hate those concepts? If something ain't broken then don't fix it, that's what I say.
I agree. I sometimes do wonder how different the 2003 animated series would be had Oroku Saki/The Shredder been a human & sinister rather than being an Utrom. Also if they did an animated TMNT series geared toward adults, Oroku Saki/The Shredder should be like Ch'Rell from the 2003 series, except he's human, but can still be sinister (I like the idea of him only wearing his Shredder gear in battle like also done in the original comic). Batman vs TMNT is another good example of human sinister Shredder, so that too could be implemented.
True shredder appearing in the computer or future is less pratical and only reason I say that is because utrom shredder was an alien so him being applied to a computer makes more since, plus the future with all the forgetting of the old ways would die if tengu shredder was in Fast Forward and as for Turtles forever, do you really think they would have beat him without their powers, this dude was so OP they had to make a mini-lost episode series for him otherwise he fucks up the story
@kherubhm so true why didn t this shredder apppeared also in the computer I personaly would like that the tengu shredder would appear in the turtles forever instead of the utrom shredder i mean this only had a couple of episodes and died he should have been better explored
@kherubhm if the Tengu Shredder appered in the movie then how the hell would be able to beat him? they wanted an easier opponent for the Turtles to deal with
I didn't mean it in that sense, my friend, I meant it in the sense as how come Ch'Rell is referred to as the True Shredder when it is a fact that there was an original human before him. Plus, if you saw the part where the 80's Shredder was looking for his counterpart via computer, how come only the Utrom Shredder was listed but not the other ones such as the original Shredder? If they had at least mentioned him in the movie then there would be no problems. It's like the writers just ignored him.
well I think those were lost episodes with the real true shredder, plus his history was kept secret except to few, I mean the dude was like sarome( from LOTR or however you spell his name) he was not to be brought up or even thought about I like the concept that the utrom stole his place, otherwise to bring tengu shredder later would have been a wtf, why so late moment. And to early you would have to nerf him and skip a lot of good episodes they made leading to his resurrection
Kind of a throwback to the original series when the authors weren`t about making him "the" arch-nemesis yet. Original "I am human" Shredder is awesome.
I would love to know what the writers were high on when they thought this was a good idea for real? The problem with Ch'Rell was that no matter how vicious or evil they made him, he just wasn't scary outside the Shredder suit. I mean all the Turtles had to do to get rid of him was to just step on him and that would have been the end of his story. Ch' Rell would have worked better if he was a separate character apart from Shredder.
I don't agree with that. The writers of the movie obviously chose to ignore everything about the Tengu Shredder as well as the other ones apart from the Utrom one. Remember they never mentioned the Karai or Cyber Shredder either if you look at it. Also, they overlooked the fact that Hun hates the Utrom Shredder and would never work for him again or the fact that Karai reformed and was on good terms with the Turtles. I also hate how they made the 80's Turtles into useless morons due to their bias
@kherubhm Dito. The great thing about Ch`Rell was only the armor design. out of that, give me Tengu, Mirage or late Archie comics human Shredder any day.
oh ok, yea I suppose so, they could have at least put karai as a listed shredder and Tengu Shredder as the true shredder with unknown data listed, but then had the only shredder which could be searched for ( not karai since she resigned, and not tengu because his data hidden and not cyber because well he is ch'rell brain data) was the original ch'rell shredder, as for the Han thing, yea they should have had Khan instead. If tengu or cyber ch'rell would have been release, the turtles die 4ever
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The one! True! Shredder!!!
This Shredder was pretty cool.
Imagine Ch'Rell the Utrom still being on Earth & impersonating Oroku Saki/The Shredder when the Tengu Shredder was revived.
At least through Tempus Fugit (the last episode of Fast Forward, but also the 1st episode of Back to the Sewer), we got to see what a fight between the 2 different Shredders would've looked like.
Shredder and Rammstein ❤ both my faves ❤😊
demon shredder is the best and most powerful
More stronger than cyber shredder
This Shredder is even worse than his 2012 counterpart.
I love The 2003 Shredder
Both the Tengu and Utrom,
Agreed. The problem though is that there would have been no plausible way the Turtles and co would have won-especially if the Tengu Shredder got ahold of Krang's technology from Weapon X. You wouldn't want to know what hell he would have caused if the Demon Shredder got ahold of the Technodrome.
Tmnt 2003 was the first to have only one but 4 different Shredders, Ultrom, Karai, Tengu and Cyber
He's a demon people...lol They're fucking powerful.
part2: Tengu, is self explanitory and cyber shredder would have hacked the technology better than his original utrom form and probably easily made the turtles dissappear. Tengu probably would have combined his ancient magic with it and cause them all to die with him somehow still existing and then just remade a tengu world
of course this shredder was more powerful than the utrom shredder he was the real demon ... as awesome as the utrom was thats all he was an utrom
Nice tribute friend Shredder is realy cool xD What song you used?
@DevilRaptorB , I think they created the Demon Shredder to shut the fans up who didn't like the Utrom Shredder reveal and wanted him as human. Once that objective was completed, they decided to kill him off as they prefered the Utrom Shredder obviously-If you watched the Turtles Forever movie you would notice that they refered to Ch'Rell as the true shredder and made no mention of the Tengu Shredder throughout the whole thing. Why couldn't the writers to see that Ch'Rell concept was lame?
Agreed, my friend. I personally believe that Ch'Rell should have been a separate character outside of the Shredder concept because all he basically is is just a meaner version of Krang. They should have just kept the Shredder as badass human.
This is similar to if they made the Green Goblin, Venom or Dr. Octopus, who are Spiderman's arch-enemies, into Skrull aliens? Do you know how much the Spider-fans would hate those concepts? If something ain't broken then don't fix it, that's what I say.
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I agree.
I sometimes do wonder how different the 2003 animated series would be had Oroku Saki/The Shredder been a human & sinister rather than being an Utrom.
Also if they did an animated TMNT series geared toward adults, Oroku Saki/The Shredder should be like Ch'Rell from the 2003 series, except he's human, but can still be sinister (I like the idea of him only wearing his Shredder gear in battle like also done in the original comic).
Batman vs TMNT is another good example of human sinister Shredder, so that too could be implemented.
what episode is 1:04 from? i know Tengu Shredder turned into a dragon, but when did he grow giant-sized?
@MisterWhat , so agreed.
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lol mirage shredder got boo'd off the building in turtles forever, so sad
True shredder appearing in the computer or future is less pratical and only reason I say that is because utrom shredder was an alien so him being applied to a computer makes more since, plus the future with all the forgetting of the old ways would die if tengu shredder was in Fast Forward and as for Turtles forever, do you really think they would have beat him without their powers, this dude was so OP they had to make a mini-lost episode series for him otherwise he fucks up the story
@kherubhm so true why didn t this shredder apppeared also in the computer I personaly would like that the tengu shredder would appear in the turtles forever instead of the utrom shredder i mean this only had a couple of episodes and died he should have been better explored
@kherubhm
if the Tengu Shredder appered in the movie then how the hell would be able to beat him? they wanted an easier opponent for the Turtles to deal with
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I didn't mean it in that sense, my friend, I meant it in the sense as how come Ch'Rell is referred to as the True Shredder when it is a fact that there was an original human before him. Plus, if you saw the part where the 80's Shredder was looking for his counterpart via computer, how come only the Utrom Shredder was listed but not the other ones such as the original Shredder? If they had at least mentioned him in the movie then there would be no problems. It's like the writers just ignored him.
The Tengu Shredder and his demon minions were destroyed and banished back to Hell by the Spirit of Hamato Yoshi.
well I think those were lost episodes with the real true shredder, plus his history was kept secret except to few, I mean the dude was like sarome( from LOTR or however you spell his name) he was not to be brought up or even thought about I like the concept that the utrom stole his place, otherwise to bring tengu shredder later would have been a wtf, why so late moment. And to early you would have to nerf him and skip a lot of good episodes they made leading to his resurrection
*Sauron, that the name of LOTR's villain
Kind of a throwback to the original series when the authors weren`t about making him "the" arch-nemesis yet.
Original "I am human" Shredder is awesome.
I would love to know what the writers were high on when they thought this was a good idea for real? The problem with Ch'Rell was that no matter how vicious or evil they made him, he just wasn't scary outside the Shredder suit. I mean all the Turtles had to do to get rid of him was to just step on him and that would have been the end of his story. Ch' Rell would have worked better if he was a separate character apart from Shredder.
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I don't agree with that. The writers of the movie obviously chose to ignore everything about the Tengu Shredder as well as the other ones apart from the Utrom one. Remember they never mentioned the Karai or Cyber Shredder either if you look at it. Also, they overlooked the fact that Hun hates the Utrom Shredder and would never work for him again or the fact that Karai reformed and was on good terms with the Turtles. I also hate how they made the 80's Turtles into useless morons due to their bias
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Dito. The great thing about Ch`Rell was only the armor design. out of that, give me Tengu, Mirage or late Archie comics human Shredder any day.
CH'RELL IS THE BEST SHREDDER
oh ok, yea I suppose so, they could have at least put karai as a listed shredder and Tengu Shredder as the true shredder with unknown data listed, but then had the only shredder which could be searched for ( not karai since she resigned, and not tengu because his data hidden and not cyber because well he is ch'rell brain data) was the original ch'rell shredder, as for the Han thing, yea they should have had Khan instead. If tengu or cyber ch'rell would have been release, the turtles die 4ever