Absolutely love them. Mike sent me a set last week and I they were instantly my favorite bag. Very hole friendly and forgiving. Wouldn’t throw anything else. I’m a believer and encourage you to try them out
Just got my set in two weeks ago. Love them so far. First time I threw them was in a singles tournament and managed to take 3rd and then 2nd in a blind draw right afterwards. Been a good consistent bag so far been very happy with them.
I picked up a set in the 2nd drop. Conditioned the afternoon I got them and threw them for first time at blind draw that night - where I placed 2nd. The slow side still a little fast but fairly controllable. Like them better than Viper Rs.
I've been playing with them for a week. They haven't slowed down yet. They play faster than a 6, now. They do have some flop and look a little larger than other bags. Mike said it, they look and feel like a PS with a different slow side. I love them - but my go-to bag is the Pro Sniper. I want the "Elites" to slow down so I can use them in doubles with others who won't throw the PS or fast bags. Btw, the "old" Clovers released a few months back are still 6.5+ on control side.
My issue with the Copycats is they are never available to buy and when they are, they are about $165. I'm not willing to spend that much on a set of bags to review. Without even throwing them, I can tell you they are not worth that price. If I can find a set at a reasonable price, then I'll get a review done on them.
For me, I’ve got to say the sniper elite. My one issue with viper r has been the sloppiness of them and the elites seem to give me a more confident and consistent hand feel. Just personal preference obviously as many people love Viper R, Ripper, …
It's the same materials as the Chaos. It's just a matter of personal preference and which bag feels better to you. Personally, I would get the Chaos because they are cheaper.
I agree with ultra being horrible with names. But with this bag, it’s the same size, fill and fast side as the pro sniper. So i don’t mind this at all. You want hybrid carpet, get the elite version
It's the same price as the Viper-Rs. Ultra has just had them on sale recently but they are normally $125 from Ultra. I think Ultra actually charges more for shipping.
They've been announcing the release dates on their social media accounts. They have done a couple releases already and they should have more on the way.
Cornhole Coastal Fear, CBC Ronin, Rocket Bags Zero Hour, AllCornhole Phoenix. They all have the same slow side as the Viper-R but slightly different fast sides. They are all on the fuller side.
No, I don't have plans. I hate the Butter fast side material so I know I'm not going to like the ButterFly bags. I hate spending the money on bags that I'm not going to use. If I can find someone local that has a set I can borrow, I will do a review on them.
@@MikesBags Understood. Well if you get the opportunity to give them a shot, definitely go for it. I wasn't a fan of the Butters, but was pleasantly surprised with the Butter-Fly. As well as the different slow side, it feels like they tweaked the fill from the original namesake, and made it much more playable, in my opinion.
Hey Mike, is this Viper R material supposed to be really loose after break-in, like the fabric stretches ALOT to where I feel like it won't be very durable?
Can you do review on Power draggin by draggin bags
They are on my list to review. They are never in stock so I haven't been able to get a set.
Absolutely love them. Mike sent me a set last week and I they were instantly my favorite bag. Very hole friendly and forgiving. Wouldn’t throw anything else. I’m a believer and encourage you to try them out
Just got my set in two weeks ago. Love them so far. First time I threw them was in a singles tournament and managed to take 3rd and then 2nd in a blind draw right afterwards. Been a good consistent bag so far been very happy with them.
I picked up a set in the 2nd drop. Conditioned the afternoon I got them and threw them for first time at blind draw that night - where I placed 2nd. The slow side still a little fast but fairly controllable. Like them better than Viper Rs.
UNDERWORLD CLONE is the same fabric combination with a better fill, but who has this fabric combination with a bigger bag at the Clone price range.
Everything thing you've said, I agree with. I got the charcoal set, and they feel really good.
I've been playing with them for a week. They haven't slowed down yet. They play faster than a 6, now. They do have some flop and look a little larger than other bags. Mike said it, they look and feel like a PS with a different slow side. I love them - but my go-to bag is the Pro Sniper. I want the "Elites" to slow down so I can use them in doubles with others who won't throw the PS or fast bags. Btw, the "old" Clovers released a few months back are still 6.5+ on control side.
Just a bought a set, They're awesome.
If you get any bags before July 30th they are all on sale
Hey Mike, can you do a review on the copycat.?
My issue with the Copycats is they are never available to buy and when they are, they are about $165. I'm not willing to spend that much on a set of bags to review. Without even throwing them, I can tell you they are not worth that price. If I can find a set at a reasonable price, then I'll get a review done on them.
Love these bag. Play great on moist boards.
Hey Mike, love how you break down your bag categories! What would you say is the difference btw the Pro Sniper Elite and the BG Sorcerer?
They are completely different bags. They're isn't much, if anything, in common with those two bags. I've got reviews up on both of those bags.
Which bags with this material combination would you say is your favorite?
For me, I’ve got to say the sniper elite. My one issue with viper r has been the sloppiness of them and the elites seem to give me a more confident and consistent hand feel. Just personal preference obviously as many people love Viper R, Ripper, …
Would you compare these elites to the swag bags chaos, if so which bag would you choose?
It's the same materials as the Chaos. It's just a matter of personal preference and which bag feels better to you. Personally, I would get the Chaos because they are cheaper.
Just get a underworld cornhole clone for a fraction of the cost.
Great bag. One of the best I’ve ever thrown. Can’t imagine the Pro Sniper being better.
These are a smaller template than the clones. Different hand feel with the different fills. Pros and cons to both.
@@justinhoffman4414I thought the clones were a small temp
Hey Mike, are these the same size as the Logic Prisms?
My guess is they're just a tick larger... Hopefully Mike let's us know
i felt them, they feel good but really slow playing indoor.... otherwise good bag for outdoor
How did you break these in
I use Toss Sauce to break in all my bags
Am I the only one who finds the name "Pro Sniper Elite" a little lazy? Just reminds me of the whole Ultra thing with R's and X's.
A lot of companies are doing it now. I'm not a fan of it. Ultra is the one that drives me crazy because there is no consistency with their letters.
Ultra is the worst Pshyco R has dif carpet the viper R so dumb. But yeah I'd of called this the Boss or Stallion idk just not sniper elite.
I agree with ultra being horrible with names. But with this bag, it’s the same size, fill and fast side as the pro sniper. So i don’t mind this at all. You want hybrid carpet, get the elite version
I Want a Set ASAP!!
@mikesbags all these bags you’ve reviewed… what do you think about doing a best bags under $60 video?
Alpha cornhole has nice cheap bags
That would be a very short list. There aren't many bags under $60.
@@Eaaatlife are they only ACO approved?
So it’s a Viper R at a higher price tag? I have a set of pro sniper and viper R, looks like there’s no need for this set
It's the same price as the Viper-Rs. Ultra has just had them on sale recently but they are normally $125 from Ultra. I think Ultra actually charges more for shipping.
Did you get word on when these are releasing on their website?
They've been announcing the release dates on their social media accounts. They have done a couple releases already and they should have more on the way.
@@MikesBags okay I will keep a lookout. Thanks.
What has these materials (Viper R) that either has a smaller template or more full bag?
Cornhole Coastal Fear, CBC Ronin, Rocket Bags Zero Hour, AllCornhole Phoenix. They all have the same slow side as the Viper-R but slightly different fast sides. They are all on the fuller side.
So what exactly makes this bag different from the viper R?
The template size, fill, and fullness are all a little different.
Any plans for an Ultra Butter-Fly review?
No, I don't have plans. I hate the Butter fast side material so I know I'm not going to like the ButterFly bags. I hate spending the money on bags that I'm not going to use. If I can find someone local that has a set I can borrow, I will do a review on them.
@@MikesBags Understood. Well if you get the opportunity to give them a shot, definitely go for it. I wasn't a fan of the Butters, but was pleasantly surprised with the Butter-Fly. As well as the different slow side, it feels like they tweaked the fill from the original namesake, and made it much more playable, in my opinion.
What B3 bag do these compare to?
B3 doesn't have a bag like this at the moment. I believe that B3 is planning to release a bag with this slow side material but I don't know when.
Hey Mike, is this Viper R material supposed to be really loose after break-in, like the fabric stretches ALOT to where I feel like it won't be very durable?
Yes, it is a very loose material.
Do you still have those bags or still throwing those bags?
I do not. I sold those after the review.
I love how bag makers are getting lazy with names.