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I'm waiting the video about chelsea sacked poch
Same lol
Silly season started early this year.
Tomorrow morning, I just recorded it
I presume the video title will be "Clowns"
That is absolutely crazy. No fan of Chelsea but I can see how he’s improved the team probably as much as Ange improved Spurs. The results may not look great but sacking Poch seems like kneejerkism of the highest order. Sadly, as with Benítez, I don’t think the fans warmed to Poch because of his previous appointments (Spurs in the case of Poch, Liverpool in the case of Benítez).
First we lose the green lights, then we lose the lamp and the frog. What Zealandism staple will we lose next?
*End of credits*
The Frog will make a return.
next video is just the room, no zealand
@@SamOGr After that is audio only.
The chocolate turtles will go next
Freelancer for sure
As an autistic person I want to clarify that 'being on the spectrum' is not solely defined by deficits in character/personality etc., not blaming you Zealand but in society generally I believe there's a lot of ignorance/misunderstanding when it comes to autism. There's been too much emphasis on certain external, perhaps negative traits a person could have and not enough on the internal, neurological aspects of autism. There are a lot of positive qualities which can be linked with autism, such as original, imaginative thinking, and a lot of empathy etc.
I possess those in a big way, and I'm certain they wouldn't be as prevalent/strong if I wasn't autistic.
I'm not saying ten Hag isn't necessarily 'on the spectrum', but if he is autistic I would define it more on the basis that he has a very 'outside the box' way of looking at football for example, more than any specific personality traits or behaviors. In fact, in a similar regard the same could be said for Guardiola as well! Yes Pep is a very genuine guy, but regarding how he obsesses over matches and tactics, he clearly has a deep imagination and strong lateral thinking with how he tries to link the gameplay of other sports with football, as well as an unusally innocent/childlike demeanor in some situations I'd say there's a case for him being autistic, and that wouldn't be a bad thing at all.
Take it from a Dutch autistic person: Ten Hag isn't on the spectrum.
I suspect that his communication skills do not rely on autistic mannerisms, such has communication by football and only football, like a Guardiola.
It is his lack of English skills and the fact that Man Utd professional behavior ran into the ground years ago, that's why it may look like he isn't as great at communication. But FC Twente, Go Ahead Eagles, Bayern München, FC Utrecht and Ajax will all tell you that Ten Hag's best qualities are his communication skills and dealing with the street players, like a Ziyech or Elia.
Guardiola might be an example of someone who is on the spectrum, as well as Cruyff (or Wim Jansen, other Dutch playmaker genius from the 70s).
They at least show more behavior and mannerisms that are linked with autism.
@@WritingGeekNL Thanks for replying about ten Hag, the language barrier explanation makes a lot of sense now. I've wondered about Cruyff being autistic too, his rather autonomous personality and creative thinking have led me looking in that direction
..Not about Poch getting the boot?..get your finger on the pulse Zea !
Poch got fired? I been outta the loop so idk
It's not tiktok... videos take time to render
@@k1llsk Yeah it just happened some hours ago. Also the same reason "mutual consent"
@@shen.daniel had as much "mutual consent" as Cosby. I really thought this would be the turnaround of Poch's career
Lyon after 12 games winless and looking like they were getting relegated just pulled a comeback only I can do on football manager and qualified to Europa League. Is that a Zealandism topic? 👀
The trajectory suggests that they will go unbeaten next year and unseat PSG's dominance.
PSG’s got to buy Harry Kane first.
This is poorly researched. He definitely never said “the club didn’t back me”. Its a lap of honor at the end of season and the speech to the fans is a key component, whether or not the coach is departing. If you can park the cynicism for a minute, it was amicable, and I think most Brighton fans would argue RDZ is pretty authentic. If you look at his career, he’s a demonstrable humanist-doesn’t mean he’s entirely selfless, but he’s beloved everywhere he’s coached for a reason. Theres no ill will between RDZ and Bloom, and Bloom wanted to make sure the fans had a chance to pay tribute to RDZ on the last day. We won 5 of the first 6, and then injuries started mounting and we never got everyone back fit (some were season ending injuries). We gave 9 teenagers their debuts this season, and had a bench half full of teenagers to begin with. I stick by that strategy if it keeps Brighton solvent but I can sympathize with a coach whose ambitions are shorter term. Anyway, you’re better than this clickbait nonsense.
Great comment, agree fully with everything you've pointed out here. De Zerbi and Brighton parted ways peacefully, and Z might not have done adequate research to back up the judgements of De Zerbi's character that he made in this video.
I mean the man literally made five Zealandism videos/day, so an oversight in research is inevitable
That's kinda the point of this channel though, a thorough research video would be in his main channel instead. This channel is just him yapping, ranting, and all that.
That thing with Uli and the CB about Kompany was a quote created by a Fake Account, iMiaSamMia not iMiaSanMia
There was nothing wrong tactically with De Zerbi per se, he tried his best with what he was given. Looking at the injury list of the club, there isn't really anything you can do anywhere without facing depth issues.
The main reason for the contract termination was conflict between club and coach regarding transfer. De Zerbi wanted more expensive ready-made talents, Brighton wanted more youngsters (and frees). This conflict of transfer is why De Zerbi wasn't kept around.
Brighton have had one of the worst injury crises in the top European leagues this season, if not the worst, while playing in an European competition for the first time in their history. They’re probably one of the only sides that are justified in using injury woes as an excuse for why they haven’t been at their best. Yet, De Zerbi has still managed to get this depleted squad that is even blessed with the most talent to begin with to the UEL knockout stages while playing that entertaining football he’s been known for. Even when they’ve lost, (which has been a lot) it’s usually been a situation of poor finishing rather than lack of good chances being created. It’s not all on De Zerbi, but he is not devoid of blame either as he can be quite dogmatic at times.
Selling their best players probably didn't help either, but injuries were the main issue yeah. Losing Mitoma was crushing
having a kind of flop season (let's not forget, any team with Brighton 's budget would be thrilled with an 11th place) does not make De Zerbi a bad coach. Having a horrible season (or an awesome one for that matter) does not define any manager or player. That being said, i agree with the whole PR thing coming across as too... artificial.
yeah you're super good at eyeballing those while missing that out of the 6 losses ops were, City, Lpool, Arsenal, admittedly banter Man U and Chelsea and Bournemouth which may be the only bad loss. do we expect Brighton to beat 1b budget big 6 teams now?
Hoeneß is not a real part of Bayern‘s board. He is just honorary president of the club. The actual president is Herbert Hainer. He still has a lot of influence tho
And the quote is fake, just for protocol
The vincent kompany thing was from a parody account, not a real quote. 0:44
Poch is doing a good job at Chelsea, wow! This video aged fast
This "Uli Hoeneß doesnt know Vincent Kompany is a coach"-thing was posted by a Bayern meme page.. i mean come on Z, at least check some of your sources before making a video :(
Z, this video seems a bit misinformed and to me it looks as though you've developed an impression of De Zerbi which does not not reflect the person that he truly is.
Brighton's 11th place finish, while obviously disappointing to many, is honestly not a failure. For starters, its their 3rd-highest finish in their entire history. Before the season even started, they sold their two best players (MacAllister and Caicedo) and "reinvested" in the form of Dahoud and Milner on frees and Baleba for 27 million, not quite setting De Zerbi up for success (although I think Baleba will have an incredible 24/25 season). Colwill went back to Chelsea and was replaced by Igor, another bad piece of business in my opinion, and one that he wasn't really able to control (Brighton's model puts Bloom and his team in charge of transfers while the head coach has little input). They did manage to get Joao Pedro through the door but it was obvious to me that they significantly weakened their squad in the build up to their most important season ever.
Then came the injuries. March has been out for literally a decade with an ACL injury, Mitoma was out for multiple spells including a back problem, Estupinan (the most underrated player on their team imo) was out for months, and many of their rising stars like Ferguson, Buonanotte, Hinshelwood, etc also suffering long-term injuries. Their injury problems were incredibly severe for the entire season, for example their most recent injury list for the United match included 9 players who routinely started under De Zerbi last season. They've had to line the bench with multiple goalkeepers and academy prospects every game, including cup ties and Europe, so its no surprise to me that they fell off after the new year. It seems incredibly harsh to judge De Zerbi for losing games to Newcastle, Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool, and Arsenal (some of the top clubs included in your screenshot) when he's handing out debuts to teenagers like candy against Erling Haaland and Martin Odegaard.
What feels to me the most misleading about this video is your judgement of De Zerbi's character, it seems like you're painting him in a bit of a bad light because of unbelievably high media expectations and his failure to do the impossible, when he's realistically done as much as he can with a makeshift team and refusal from the owners of the club to let him be ambitious in the transfer market. To say that De Zerbi is being blinded by his desire to get a job at a big club like Barca or Bayern is also to ignore the testimony of his players to his absolute and unwavering commitment to every club he's been at, not just Brighton. He was the last person to leave Ukraine after the Russian invasion began because he was so focused on the wellbeing of his players. I think many people are blind to the fact that he is an incredible man-manager and can create connections with his players on a level only rivaled by a select few coaches in the modern game, probably because of the media fixation on his tactics. His former players at Sassuolo, Shaktar, and his other Italian clubs frequently give interviews talking about how De Zerbi is the most passionate coach they've seen and that he is able to build relationships with players better than other managers they've had. His personality has been lost in translation by popular media in my opinion, and you'll see that he is "genuine" to the extreme if you look into his past.
I won't act like he's perfect, but I also won't act like the media is misinterpreting this situation on purpose to create headlines. Paul Barber gave a press conference today in which he said that the club and De Zerbi parted ways "amicably", and while it's obvious that there was some sort of disagreement I feel like its not accurate to attribute the blame solely to De Zerbi. I feel like Brighton's ownership, of course knowing their past (for many years they didn't have a stadium and they once were a single game from the 5th tier), decided to follow a path which has worked well for them for the past decade or so, and that path was simply incompatible with the passion and desires of De Zerbi. It seems like the best option was for the two parties involved to part ways without a big fuss and a resignation or sacking once the disconnect grew larger. I fully trust both Brighton and De Zerbi and I think they will both be successful in the future.
TLDR: I think it is important not to fall into an interpretation of De Zerbi as simply an "AI" tactician type of manager when he is an absolutely incredible man-manager as well. Also, Brighton and De Zerbi didn't have a terrible season when you take all of their circumstances into account. De Zerbi and Brighton parted ways peacefully and they will both undoubtedly go on to do great things while maintaining their positive relationship.
Good points made but I think De Zerbi`s main failing was tactical inflexibility. I think we would have done even better under Potter who was adept at adjusting tactically to the opponents and the players at his disposal. Id welcome a Potter return or Brightonian, and current Southampton manager Russell Martin.
@@patrickokeeffe-i7i I agree, that's another one of the problems that led to Brighton's decline this season for sure. I wonder if a 3 at the back system could have been an alternative with Igor as the 3rd CB and Hinshelwood + Barco as wingbacks (Estupinan and Lamptey are injured still of course). I'm curious to see what tactics De Zerbi will employ at his next club because I think his 2-4 buildup structure is still effective in theory, but I think his biggest next challenge is finding effective solutions to change a game when things are going wrong.
he lost 6 of last 10 look at who he played lol. both mancheter clubs, liverpool, asrsenal, chelsea that is 5 of the top teams in country, so is it any suprise they lost 6 without their 3 main players
Yeah, I agree. Besides, 11th was Brighton's 3rd best finish ever in the League.His build-up might have been exposed a little bit but 11th after losing some key players (as Brighton always seems to do) from last season is fine.
My guess is that he wanted Brighton to splash some extra cash or retain certain players for extra competiveness and the club refused to deviate from its model.
mogul mail but football
A fellow ludbud, didn’t expect to find them here
Never a dull moment with Italian managers
Obligatory Man United backhander ✅
This comment was written before 6 mins on the video
On point
Its refreshing to not see your chesthair fill up the screen
De Zerbi's PR is incredible. Won less games than Dyche's Everton, scoring less than Palace and Moyes' West Ham. He traffics in a 40 year old methodology that he's now overly reliant on and that destroys talent. It is antidevelopment, and a "post-coaching" philosophy which is hurting football. I'm seeing coaches employ these methods throughout different age groups because twitter tacticos think it's new and interesting. It's not. His first phase is the only interesting difference he can point to, but otherwise cannot set up a serious defence, or mount a serious attack. A game model based on creating transitional moments in the backline from baiting presses will never scale to the top level, and him and Ten Hag have found thit out. At least when Arteta's circuits and routines got found out he managed to set up a disgustingly effective 541.
On top of his unimpressive game model, he seems like such a petulant, blamey, self centred manager, throwing players under the bus for not executing silly tactics completely ruining their game. Baleba, one of the best young CM's in Europe, could evade moisture in a rainforest, is facing his own goal executing shit circuits and being blamed when they don't come off, as if last year he wasn't spinning pressers for fun and carrying it 50 yards like Bellingham. Poch is significantly better than De Zerbi, I am praying Chelsea get him.
"...think it's new and interesting. It's not."
Whether something is interesting is mostly subjective. You might have found his tactical approach tepid at best, but others could still find it interesting for whatever reason.
I'm sorry but this is a terrible comment. I am a neutral, so don't get the notion that I'm biased here, but you're just being disrespectful for no good reason and I have to correct your "arguments".
- De Zerbi's buildup tactics do not destroy talent. Literally last summer Brighton sold Caicedo and MacAllister to top clubs because they flourished in De Zerbi's system. This season Jack Hinshelwood has sped up his development from barely making the bench in cup matches to starting and scoring against teams like Tottenham in the prem. I don't know how you can see a club like Brighton finishing 6th then 11th (keep in mind they were struggling to stay in the league only 3+ years ago) as a tactical failure on De Zerbi's part when they've frequently smashed top 6 clubs with a team full of "destroyed talents".
- To call De Zerbi "self centered" is genuinely mind-boggling to me. When Russia invaded Ukraine during his time at Shakhtar, he was the last person from the team to leave Ukraine because he was so focused on the wellbeing of his players. Uninformed people have developed this interpretation of De Zerbi as a tactician when in reality he is one of the best man-managers on the market right now, that's why every single club (excluding Palermo) he's been at thinks of him as a legend despite his short tenures. His former players frequently give interviews detailing his passion for the game and his desire to connect with his players - this is something that has been echoed by Milner, Lallana, Gross, and other current Brighton players as well.
- Last thing, I agree with your assessment of Baleba, but like with most transfer business Brighton does, he was probably not brought in at De Zerbi's request. I think this is where the disconnect occurred between the club and the coach. Brighton brought in players that they felt were either cheap (Milner and Dahoud on frees) or could be sold for profit in the future, when De Zerbi likely wanted the massive income from the MacAllister and Caicedo transfers to be invested in Europa League standard players. Despite this disagreement, they decided to part ways amicably (in the words of Paul Barber).
Do some research on De Zerbi. You seem to hate him because of his tactics, which is completely okay and justified, but you really shouldn't be disrespecting such a genuine and passionate man by ignorantly labeling him as childish.
@@arifb222That's true, but if they want to see that methodology actually work they should watch much better proponents of it than De Zerbi by watching Conte's Inter, Sarri's Napoli and Gasperini's Atalanta.
@@nsbunited I am absolutely biased against his tactics, but I also don't like the way he speaks about players, and the game generally. Selfish in context means he sees the game as being about him, instead of the players. I'll double down though on the fact that he can't develop players. He tries to put some players, not all, in favourable conditions, in what I see as a scurge on modern coaching. It's all good making Barco the primary reciever in a routine that ideally provides space to carry, or allows him to play simple diagonals into the striker, but at the top level, you're routines will eventually fail, and you'll need solutions, and skills, and empowerment to play football. It's hours placing dominoes that takes me minutes to destroy, and when it falls through, call the wambulance because he needs better players. Won less than Dyche's Everton with much more talent. And when those routines fail, and Barco is tasked with defending against Saka, Salah, Bernardo, he hasnt been coached, and will be thrown to the dogs. These coaches love to move every 18 months before the house of cards falls through. When I used to coach against De Zerbi wannabe's, telling players to put soles on the ball, and play routines, I'd get videos of them in advance and destroy them.
Caicedo and Mac Allistar are losses, but they were never 100m players anyway. There's a reason Caicedo had no solutions, no pictures in his head at PL level when removed from DZ's circuits, and it took months for Poch to coach him into a good midfielder that can now evade pressure and gallop through a midfield. Because he was never actually coached, he just executed routines. Makes everyone look great short term, kills them long term. Hinshelwood should be very happy he's no longer spending hours and hours passing circuits around statues in training.
@@nsbunited poor players tend to enjoy and benefit from routines, but good and especially great players despise them. That’s probably the biggest ceiling on his management.
The reason why the club and Roberto decided to part ways boils down to the transfer business, Roberto wanted top dollar ready made signings since we made profit these past few seasons, and that goes against our club policy of buying cheap young players and developing them into top superstars /looking for bargains in the window. Which always bothered Roberto cause he kinda saw this as a lack of ambition
and aswell if you take a look at his managerial history he doesn’t really stick around for long term with clubs , the longest being sassuolo(4years) before leaving cause the club couldn’t really improve (hit its sealing at that time)this is just history repeating itself.
No Frog 🐸, sad😢
Bummer, next time lad 🐸
Frog 🐸
De Zerbi is a very good coach. He made a great team at Sassuolo. He is Italian, however. And Italians , generally, are more diplomatic. Maybe he got a boot or got sacked. But aside of Don Carlo and Ranieri, Italians have always been diplomatic. So he probably said he didn't have support of the club in order to cover for something. He will probably end up at AC Milan or Napoli and do an outstanding job. Still think Liverpool should have signed him after Klopp.
If you look at de Zerbi's CV he rarely (if ever) spends more than 2 seasons managing any club. Could be for any number of reasons, but it's a statistic that should raise some eyebrows for any club looking to build a project with him
I feel personally attacked that you don’t like ten Hag. And I’m a Liverpool fan (from Florida, weird I know)
I think Marcelinho Gallardo could be a great option for Brighton....He has a winning mentality, great track record with youngsters and he could be the perfect coach among those available
you really don't know much about ETH and it shows. Sancho was a major problem at united and ETH delt with him expertly
I think Brighton r smart enough not to drop De Zerbi after 1 season where the club has to deal more fixture congestion n they still have players developing. I think De Zerbi had a Nagelsman moment somewhere in the season n the results jus gave the club an excuse to ex-communicate him. At least thats my thinking, coz those words specifically very much hints to that
If it wasn't that he has managed other clubs before and did quite well with a small Sassuolo and Shakhtar (winning the league), it would be a notable argument. But this is once again the Premier League thinking they are the only league and without them nobody matters. A totally backwards and insane mindset which is far removed from reality.
Not sure about this take, though Brighton didn't improve on last season I think it is extremely harsh to suggest he didn't do so well this season. They sold their two best midfielders, dealt with a shedload of injuries while the sporting director at Brighton is playing Moneyball and more interested in acquiring fresh young talent with re-sale value rather than a team ready to compete on European and PL front
I don't think Pep is a genuine guy. Odd if others do and I might be nitpicking cause of the distrust i have of City as a whole but he always seems like he takes things out of context and ignores some things for convenience. Might be because of the people behind City, maybe not.
1:25 ehhh Zealand pal, I think that came out wrong, there is one thing that should always be described as mutual consent... *cough* s*xual intercourse *cough*
Aston Villa didnt try in that game they won, but I did think Brighton kinda looked good in that match. Didnt prove anything defensively though.
Fellas taken Brighton backwards since he arrived don’t understand the hype around the guy
De zerbi seems to want Brighton to challenge for European spots where as the board are looking for young talent to produce and sell off
i prefer to judge managers on how they face adversity, de zerbi looked like a sulking teenager for most of the second half of this season. no thanks
What makes the world go round what duels football, what do Brighton have alot of?
Money
Toni Kroos retires and you’re talking about De Fuckeri? Come on man
The style of play of Brighton made sure that the team overachieved, but if you look at all the teams that finished above Brighton, you see that the level of those players is a lot higher.
I think the pressure tells a different picture than just reading his statements, i think he talked about getting his situation sorted till the beginning of next season would be best but time of wouldnt be the end for him you know
It's called AMEX Community Stadium.
go listen Kevin-Prince Boateng 's interview, De Zerbi def mental
De Zerbie is completely addicted to football bro you should read some of his interview about it
I dont know if i can agree on de zerbi being fake, he feels real with his emotions, with what he says, maybe the language barrier loses a bit of the meaning
The man had that run, because at one point Brighton hade more injured players, than a hospital in Belgium in the 1 WW. And also Europe took its tool, having a small size for PL and EL, while replacing Caicedo, MacAlister, Sanchez with Milner, Dahoud and Verbruggen. Big loss of talent is a understatement here.
Btw, Milan, Napoli, Juve are all without manager. Personally, Milan is the best place to go. Squad, that suits him the most.
We’re having McKenna our manager linked to every club on the planet it seems
I mean it their first european season, half the squads injured whilst the other half was sold of
no words on Jesse helming your neighbor soccer team yet? :(
Have you moved into MoistCritkal's old room?
He's staying at home playing football manager 'studying teams and coaches ..' . Fair play to him
Both juve and Milan jobs available. I can see him at Milan. But both jobs are of a higher status than Brighton. Which seems to be what he’s looking for
Juventus are basically 99.99% getting Motta (thanks for not even trying Redbird) and I have little faith in Redbird
The problem is, is that he is not bald and does not look like pep
You really need to do you research before you do videos
another day another zealandism
Brighton decided Roberto doesn’t deserve me
Dont understand all the cheap snipes at united.
Him and Poch in a race to get to Munich first
Does anyone know where he got that hoodie from?
To anybody complaining about research. This is channel for (sometimes very subjective) ramblings about football, for Zealand to give his train of thoughts at that moment. This is not an objective journalistic attempt to look at things, that's what the main channel is for when it handles non-FM but football related things.
I'm just disappointed that Z seemingly made judgements of De Zerbi's character (not just as a coach but as a person) without knowing enough context. I think we can all accept speculation on what caused the mutual consent or whatever, but I think calling De Zerbi an AI tactician is inaccurate when in reality he's one of the greatest managers out there right now when it comes to building positive relationships with the players he coaches. It's not a coincidence that every single club he's been at (except Palermo) absolutely adores him, for this reason I think Z missed the mark in this video.
@@nsbunited well, as said, very subjective is the key, and that’s why the comments section (hopefully) exists to provide a reaction to it, which was done amply
I don't understand the recent hate on De Zerbi
that hoodie is fire
I think there is a chance he will go to Milan
And Poch?? Smth in the air rn fr
Even Zea rejected Bayern 😭
I don't think he'll suck in his next role. His Benevento and Sassuolo played amazing football. EPL just discovered him because he managed Brighton
He's going to Chelsea
tf is you talking about
Referencing the Vincent kompany joke is SO funny it’s from a meme account that even ESPN already fell for
Bayern Fans love him
Zealand getting caught by a fake quote from Uli Hoeneß about Kompany is hilarious to me
Free the frog! Free the frog!
Calling the AmEx stadium Bank of America is so funny to me 💀💀💀
lovely video
WHERE DID THE LAMP GO?!
Zealandism constant content is something i love so much, I love seeing the back to back updates on football lore 😭
Love you Z. So happy you made a new channel where you just talk IRL Football.
The Pochettino joke has ages terribly already 😂 just watched this after seeing he got sacked by Chelsea 😂😂
Weird
Zealand on fire with the jokes, Kompany and Malacia one in particular 😂
Zealand.. POCHETTINO left Chelsea...
Would be cool to see you make a video on the chokehold that Jorge mendes has over the portuguese national team
I didn't press like because no frog.
“At least he looks like Poch…”
Oof.
First
Pochettino... WAS doing a good job 🤣
38 view in 2 minutes? Fell off.
Love the hoody Zealand 👍
Nice hoodie!
Don't forget to go on a run today!
Being a Brighton fan I think he wanted the club to change its ethos to suit his and they said no and I think it was the straw that broke the camels back with recent conversations. I think it was a divorce before they left on bad terms.
Haha no kid can say first
As a Crystal Palace fan, I am disappointed to see De Zerbi leave so soon, I was enjoying that. They should have given him at least another season ;-)
thats the fun fact, uli hoeneß is not in charge of anything xD hes just a honorable president he has zero say which makes all his say so much worse xD
Day 4 of requesting Zealand accept his destiny as rhe Penguinz0 of Football youtube and wear a plain white T-shirt for these Zealandism vids!!!!
RdZ wasn't being courted by other clubs as such, the media was linking him with every potential vacancy there was whether it was viable or not. That smacks of his agent trying to up his profile not that he was actually linked with any of these jobs - Liverpool and Bayern for example were never going to appoint him.