How I miss Fred. I was introduced to the glory of organ music during his time at Riverside Church. He gave us the best of this remarkable instrument. He gave his gift to the end. It will always be with us. As will Fred Swann.
I was brought here as a child to watch the glory of Easter. I was a poor young girl at that time. But it was something I will never forget. Thank you to the church lady who took me whoever she was.
Fred swan was tops in service playing. He had a naturally creative ability that even some of the greatest organist of the world do not. His gift is inate. He drama is not high theater. It is in his DNA. I miss him and gifts to this day. Bruce
Thank you for posting. Now the CC is a Catholic Cathedral. WHat always amazed me is with all of the glass how the organ and voices never brought the glass down.organ HIS sounding board. Thanks to all from the CC and the organists, choirs and all of the wonderful people who made CC and its SUnday TV programing available to those of us who could not attend in person PAX+
Absolutely beautiful. The sound quality gets an A+. Thank you. I can envision listening to this each day. I really miss Fred Swann. Richest Blessings to all.
What an amazing collection of great hymns played as only Fred Swann could do with his superb arrangements on truly an outstanding organ. It is a thrilling offering to the Lord Himself. It is quite distressing to learn that this magnificent instrument and the CC itself have fallen on such troubled times with the bankruptcy and the organ not being maintained. However many churches all over North America and Europe are experiencing the same downturn, with church doors closing regularly.
Sounds reasonable. It was intentionally built with a shortened nave and widened transept to bring the seats closer to the chancel, creating a sense of intimacy in spite of the colossal dimensions, and to facilitate TV-recordings. It's main purpose was after all to serve as permanent television studio.
@@reallyscrewcody yes, I have that publication! Fortunately, I've memorized the varied accompaniments heard here. I've heard there are two editions. Alas, I've found only the one.
Whereas the the organ has not been used the way it has been in the past, the organ curators have done an incredible job with a very limited budget keeping her in working order. Yes, there was damage to the organ due to water damage but parts are on hand to repair that when the roof is fixed. This is thanks to a wonderful curator team that has gone above and beyond keeping Hazel up and running. There is no doubt that she is in need of a major overhaul, she is turning 30 fairly soon.
These are great hymns and played absolutely brilliantly and majestically by Fred. I will respectfully disagree with you and boldly state that this will NOT be the last time they are played in the Crystal Cathedral. We have used all these hymn tunes in the Catholic Church many times. We may seldom if at all though hear Fred's arrangements of these due to copyright rules, however the hymn tunes will go on. BRAVO FRED!!!!!!!
It's great to see a few different eras of the mighty Hazel Wright Organ. The photos from 7:44 to 8:18 were from the 80s or so, the south gallery had no Montre Le Tour pipes in front of the case. Great playing from Mr. Swann!
My alma matter, O.U. Norman, started an organ program a few years ago in the college of Music. They acquire and restore old church, theatre, or municipal organs. The students wind up with a BA in Music in Organ Building. Its fantastic to see the pipe and console shop full of projects. They also cover pipe manufacturing which is fast becoming a lost art.
+Burt Ward My old parish, Our Lady of Loretto in Redford Mich, is no longer viable but the had a wonderful 10 rank Wicks organ that I played many times..You should call the Archdiocese of Detroit to see if you could rescue the old gal. The majority of the pipes were enclosed in a case in the organ loft which would make it perfect for a small to medium sized church...It really deserves a second chance....
Many "Protestant" hymns are frequently played in Catholic churches and are included in current hymnbooks. I expect to hear them in the Cathedral when the organ return in 2016.
All of these five hymn tunes are found in most contemporary Catholic hymnals and I play them all in my Catholic church. There are also some Catholic hymns that one no longer finds in Catholic hymnals, but they are still in Methodist and Episcopal hymnals.
All five of those hymns are widespread in western Christendom. They contain thoughts and fitting tunes which have demonstrated appeal across time and cultural boundaries. Although Catholic hymns with compatible lyrics were early used in Protestant fellowships, this side of Vatican II even "Ein' feste Burg" ("A Mighty Fortress"), Martin Luther's anthem of the Reformation, appears in Catholic hymnals, as do the other four hymns in this selection. Most fellowships choose a hymn on the basis of what the hymn means to them, not on the basis of where it originated.
@@w0103411 You've never been to unenlightened Europe. You will never find any of these hymns in a Catholic church, where the music has been purged of anything except Taizé and Gregorian and some very contemporary songs you have never heard. Listen to the Vatican outpouring at least once in your life and you will understand. It is not anglophonia. It is not America.
@Steff2929again Bishop Todd Brown is 75 years old now, up there in age. It is only prudent to expect his retirement and a successor when the Diocese moves in which should not happen for another three years (according to sale agreement, Crystal Cathedral Ministries may stay for three more years). If the Vatican appoints a "traditional/conservative" successor to Bp Brown, the prognosis for the organ should be favorable. Let's pray for that outcome.
@morrisonmj But - she still sounds wonderful under the hands of Tom Leonard. Stop by for an evening service sometime. It is organ only and it is truly glorious to hear the prelude and postlude and music accompanied by the one and only Hazel Wright Organ.
Only difference is hymns like "Holy God, We Praise Thy Name" (Groesser Gott), "Holy, Holy, Holy" (Nicea), and "Veni Creator Spiritus" will also be amongst them. SOLI DEO GLORIA!!!!!
Of course these hymns will be played. These tunes are all in the OCP, WPL and GIA missals. The Catholic church even sings 'A mighty fortress is our God.' The Roman Catholic Church has proven to be a worthy curator of fine instruments, and they have their share of excellent choirs. Now if we can get the congregations to sing...maybe this instrument will help.
Apparently Bobby Schuler (grandson of Schuler Sr.) is still trying to maintain the image of CC in his Hour of Power revived programme. But, since he graduated from Oral Roberts University he may also bring in some of the so called Christian contemporary music and some of it sounds more like Disco-Bar wordly music! Let's hope that he will only permit the valuable examples of this genre... which are very few, unfortunately.
To my understanding the Catholic Diocese if Orange which now owns the Crystal Cathedral campus will not alter the exterior of the building. However it will remodel interior to accommodate Roman Catholic services.
Mr. Steff2929again: I had to chuckle after reading about your feelings on Benny Hinn's presence at the former CC. I am not against the pentecostal-charismatic movements since most preach salvation by grace such as we Christian-evangelicals believe in, but I am sure appalled by their strange antics displayed in their services under the guise of the baptism of the Holy Spirit. Sadly, some "biggies" such as Hinn and others have transformed Christianity into a circus...musicians included!!!
I've always been curious old Fred Swann uses a little piece of paper or card placed on the Organ music rank...I've always wondered what was on that card. Obviously he plays perfectly without the need for sheet music. He is old but a gifted musician...Where is he now I wonder and what is he doing?
Correction: This church is not anymore Crystal Cathedral, but CHRIST CATHEDRAL. The organ, the sound, the organist, the playing art, and everything there..., nothing els than excellence!!!
Some of the Montre le Tour pipes were removed for repair as well. The biggest issue is the money, or lack of it, for the needed repair to the roof and the organ.
such a ridiculous shame that this CD of organ music was mastered 180 degrees out of phase. For those listening on speakers,... if you reverse the wires on just one of your speakers the bass response and sound will be hugely improved.
The Catholic Church (CC) has committed to repairing & maintaining the organ. Climate control alone is a vast improvement.The CC has & maintains 1000's of organs, many og signif importance. As 4 hymns, the notion of Catholic v Protestant (P) hymn is not really accurate. If music is theologically sound & musically decent both churches may use it. The perception results from the P hymnody relying mostly on the glorious old hymns, while the CC's Vatican II in the 60's spawned alot of new hymns
It's dangerous to use absolutes like that. Maybe for a certain Body of Christ, contemporary music is good.... but the same can be said for traditional worship music. The reason that traditional hymns and organ led congregations have survived this long is obviously because it WORKS and people can surely worship with it! I am fond of both; I worship alone with guitar and singing, but in a church setting, organ led is the way to go for me. But to each their own, neither has "no purpose."
I agree with all of your points. It sure hit rock bottom at the hands of Sheila's choice of music directors, but I saw that happening the first time I saw her get up and start singing that awful praise and worship, ( WHICH IS NEITHER ).
I have to say what has been done is awful. I attend Seattle First Baptist and we are holding fast to the hymns. The days churches go modern or contemporary is the day I leave the church!
I know that the Hebrew-in-Chief, God, does not care what label we(sinners) place on the building!!! We(sinners) are commanded to bow down and Worship Him in any and all denominations!!!
I prefer direct communion with the Lord. Don’t trust someone carrying prayers for me. Remember the millennium when Roman Catholic Church wouldn’t even let you read a Bible for fear of knowing the truth. And my roots are Lutheran and the Roman Catholic Diocese of Germany demanded that my would-be grandfather x 4 convert back or die. He chose to die. So my grandmother x 4 Hublesch immigrated to the US and married my grandfather x 4. And they brought Martin Luther with them.
Kaleb Lippert No. You are Protestant Baptist member. The word catholic means universal,so, unless you converted to the Roman variety you still remain a Protestant Baptist Christian. There was a time when the word Protestant meant Pro-test- ant. Alas, those days are over. We may pay consequences for going to sleep 💤.
Thankfully, the nut (Schuller's daughter) who brought in the contemporary worship mess is now gone, and so is the horrible music! They've gone back over to traditional organ/choir music. Too bad they didn't do this before the church hit rock bottom!!!
Nope. I can't stand great organ music being "drowned out" by a choir. I want to hear that behemoth rip & roar and rock & roll, without interruption by a bunch of singing...yuk! :) Let him "show off", that organ is amazing and needs nothing else to augment or reinforce it. Choirs to me are kind of like a bunch of people trying to push the Queen Mary to make it go faster, lol!
traditional worship music is terrible .. outside of a youth setting, it has no purpose .. i attended an Episcopal church who attempted this and the results were disastrous
How I miss Fred. I was introduced to the glory of organ music during his time at Riverside Church. He gave us the best of this remarkable instrument. He gave his gift to the end. It will always be with us. As will Fred Swann.
I was brought here as a child to watch the glory of Easter. I was a poor young girl at that time. But it was something I will never forget. Thank you to the church lady who took me whoever she was.
Fred swan was tops in service playing. He had a naturally creative ability that even some of the greatest organist of the world do not. His gift is inate. He drama is not high theater. It is in his DNA. I miss him and gifts to this day. Bruce
that is so cool!
How nice to read about your up bringing from this place.
I wish I could come and live there and worship. I am a small time organist. God bless you
So happy for you and you're so appreciative. You deserved that experience, which I'm sure left a positive impression on you.🙏👼
@@anandadjk214no you're not. You are glorious in God's Sight...
That small mustard seed grows into the largest of vines!!
I remember sitting in that cathedral on sunny mornings listening to the beauty of that organ, and the breeze blowing through...it was heaven..
Thank you for posting.
Now the CC is a Catholic Cathedral.
WHat always amazed me is with all of the glass how the organ and voices never brought the glass down.organ HIS sounding board.
Thanks to all from the CC and the organists, choirs and all of the wonderful people who made CC and its SUnday TV programing available to those of us who could not attend in person
PAX+
Absolutely beautiful. The sound quality gets an A+. Thank you. I can envision listening to this each day. I really miss Fred Swann. Richest Blessings to all.
I attended no fewer than three master classes taught by Fred. Good teacher and performer.
Magnificent! I was blessed to sing with Dr. Swann accompanying the cathedral choir at First Congregational Church L.A. he is phenomenal.
I am a music Director at a large Catholic church, and we sing all of those hymns quite often
Hymns of childhood. No matter what denomination, hymns that glorify our Creator are universal in Christ, our King!
Yes it is true.
Amen and Amen!
Thanks for the diagrams of the divisions. Always wondered.
This organ will again rise to the occasion!!!!!!!!
I still recall when Rev. Dr. Robt Schuller preached at the Crystal Cathedral. His messages were always uplifting
yes they were
The times changed; He didn’t.
woww.. amazing.. I from Indonesia, I hope in my country have church like this
Best organ music from the Crystal Cathedral.
What an amazing collection of great hymns played as only Fred Swann could do with his superb arrangements on truly an outstanding organ. It is a thrilling offering to the Lord Himself. It is quite distressing to learn that this magnificent instrument and the CC itself have fallen on such troubled times with the bankruptcy and the organ not being maintained. However many churches all over North America and Europe are experiencing the same downturn, with church doors closing regularly.
I remember walking into the Crystal Cathedral and my first thought was, Wow, this looks so much bigger on television!
Sounds reasonable. It was intentionally built with a shortened nave and widened transept to bring the seats closer to the chancel, creating a sense of intimacy in spite of the colossal dimensions, and to facilitate TV-recordings. It's main purpose was after all to serve as permanent television studio.
Good point! I hadn't thought about that.
My thoughts exactly when I visited in 1989.
The modulation for "Rejoice The Lord is King" gets me every time. Need to learn the modulation for Lobe den Herren
Daine King Swann wrote all (mostly) hymn arrangements in a Fred Bock publication.
@@reallyscrewcody yes, I have that publication! Fortunately, I've memorized the varied accompaniments heard here. I've heard there are two editions. Alas, I've found only the one.
I attended Chrystal Cathedral several times and always was inspired by the organ and Fredick Swann.
Whereas the the organ has not been used the way it has been in the past, the organ curators have done an incredible job with a very limited budget keeping her in working order. Yes, there was damage to the organ due to water damage but parts are on hand to repair that when the roof is fixed. This is thanks to a wonderful curator team that has gone above and beyond keeping Hazel up and running. There is no doubt that she is in need of a major overhaul, she is turning 30 fairly soon.
Thanks for this. Excellent playing.
These are great hymns and played absolutely brilliantly and majestically by Fred. I will respectfully disagree with you and boldly state that this will NOT be the last time they are played in the Crystal Cathedral. We have used all these hymn tunes in the Catholic Church many times. We may seldom if at all though hear Fred's arrangements of these due to copyright rules, however the hymn tunes will go on. BRAVO FRED!!!!!!!
It's great to see a few different eras of the mighty Hazel Wright Organ. The photos from 7:44 to 8:18 were from the 80s or so, the south gallery had no Montre Le Tour pipes in front of the case. Great playing from Mr. Swann!
Wow that organ has are amcing Sound
i can't wait to try it out .. many blessings to you in your new location
After the tonal and physical remodel, it will sound like brand new.
As an organist in many Roman Catholic parishes, I can assure you that All of these hymntunes are used regularly.
My alma matter, O.U. Norman, started an organ program a few years ago in the college of Music. They acquire and restore old church, theatre, or municipal organs. The students wind up with a BA in Music in Organ Building. Its fantastic to see the pipe and console shop full of projects. They also cover pipe manufacturing which is fast becoming a lost art.
+Burt Ward My old parish, Our Lady of Loretto in Redford Mich, is no longer viable but the had a wonderful 10 rank Wicks organ that I played many times..You should call the Archdiocese of Detroit to see if you could rescue the old gal. The majority of the pipes were enclosed in a case in the organ loft which would make it perfect for a small to medium sized church...It really deserves a second chance....
I've always liked this organ. I hope it can be fully restored.
it has been fully restored and reinstalled
It was
Amazingness
RIP Frederick Swann
I hope to attend mass there someday.
BEAUTIFUL songs
BEAUTIFUL organ
BEAUTIFUL building
HORRENDOUS recording!
This was recorded just after the organ was finished I think 1984 or 90s
Many "Protestant" hymns are frequently played in Catholic churches and are included in current hymnbooks. I expect to hear them in the Cathedral when the organ return in 2016.
Yup
All of these five hymn tunes are found in most contemporary Catholic hymnals and I play them all in my Catholic church. There are also some Catholic hymns that one no longer finds in Catholic hymnals, but they are still in Methodist and Episcopal hymnals.
loose my number please
All five of those hymns are widespread in western Christendom. They contain thoughts and fitting tunes which have demonstrated appeal across time and cultural boundaries. Although Catholic hymns with compatible lyrics were early used in Protestant fellowships, this side of Vatican II even "Ein' feste Burg" ("A Mighty Fortress"), Martin Luther's anthem of the Reformation, appears in Catholic hymnals, as do the other four hymns in this selection. Most fellowships choose a hymn on the basis of what the hymn means to them, not on the basis of where it originated.
@@w0103411 You've never been to unenlightened Europe. You will never find any of these hymns in a Catholic church, where the music has been purged of anything except Taizé and Gregorian and some very contemporary songs you have never heard. Listen to the Vatican outpouring at least once in your life and you will understand. It is not anglophonia. It is not America.
Its going to sound so great when the pipes get back from Italy. Cleaned, adjusted and revoiced to factory specs.
It was
GREAT!!!
@Steff2929again Bishop Todd Brown is 75 years old now, up there in age. It is only prudent to expect his retirement and a successor when the Diocese moves in which should not happen for another three years (according to sale agreement, Crystal Cathedral Ministries may stay for three more years). If the Vatican appoints a "traditional/conservative" successor to Bp Brown, the prognosis for the organ should be favorable. Let's pray for that outcome.
I hear this organ is going to be one used for the 2012 American Theatre Organ Society convention in Los Angeles this year.
@morrisonmj But - she still sounds wonderful under the hands of Tom Leonard. Stop by for an evening service sometime. It is organ only and it is truly glorious to hear the prelude and postlude and music accompanied by the one and only Hazel Wright Organ.
Only difference is hymns like "Holy God, We Praise Thy Name" (Groesser Gott), "Holy, Holy, Holy" (Nicea), and "Veni Creator Spiritus" will also be amongst them. SOLI DEO GLORIA!!!!!
Of course these hymns will be played. These tunes are all in the OCP, WPL and GIA missals. The Catholic church even sings 'A mighty fortress is our God.' The Roman Catholic Church has proven to be a worthy curator of fine instruments, and they have their share of excellent choirs. Now if we can get the congregations to sing...maybe this instrument will help.
They will be played again
Omg its sooo much better in persoon!!
9:03 Ein Feste Burg., YES...
Apparently Bobby Schuler (grandson of Schuler Sr.) is still trying to maintain the image of CC in his Hour of Power revived programme. But, since he graduated from Oral Roberts University he may also bring in some of the so called Christian contemporary music and some of it sounds more like Disco-Bar wordly music! Let's hope that he will only permit the valuable examples of this genre... which are very few, unfortunately.
E. Diaz del Campo
He really don't that much contemporary music but he do often Spirituals and Hymn Arrangements
To my understanding the Catholic Diocese if Orange which now owns the Crystal Cathedral campus will not alter the exterior of the building. However it will remodel interior to accommodate Roman Catholic services.
Fine
Mr. Steff2929again: I had to chuckle after reading about your feelings on Benny Hinn's presence at the former CC. I am not against the pentecostal-charismatic movements since most preach salvation by grace such as we Christian-evangelicals believe in, but I am sure appalled by their strange antics displayed in their services under the guise of the baptism of the Holy Spirit. Sadly, some "biggies" such as Hinn and others have transformed Christianity into a circus...musicians included!!!
I've always been curious old Fred Swann uses a little piece of paper or card placed on the Organ music rank...I've always wondered what was on that card. Obviously he plays perfectly without the need for sheet music. He is old but a gifted musician...Where is he now I wonder and what is he doing?
He is retired. But he is actually working as a consultant for the currently ongoing renovation of this organ.
Also he's teaching organ at my alma mater, University of Redlands. He teaches on our fantastic Casavant.
The card showed the order in which the hymns and responses were played, and their key.
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Many of these hymns are played in the Catholic Mass also.
Correction: This church is not anymore Crystal Cathedral, but CHRIST CATHEDRAL. The organ, the sound, the organist, the playing art, and everything there..., nothing els than excellence!!!
Some of the Montre le Tour pipes were removed for repair as well. The biggest issue is the money, or lack of it, for the needed repair to the roof and the organ.
beautiful hymns. but A Mighty Fortress was best. Not all tocattaed up
My gosh they let the building get dilapidated?
@Steff2929again pls see my comment below, that organ WILL have its days again
Is this organ a Ruffatti or a Schoenstein???
+Mark Rocovich Ruffatti (more details can be found in the description)
Former Crystal Protestant Cathedral now Christ Catholic Cathedral!!
such a ridiculous shame that this CD of organ music was mastered 180 degrees out of phase. For those listening on speakers,... if you reverse the wires on just one of your speakers the bass response and sound will be hugely improved.
The Catholic church sings those same hymns as well. They will be heard there.
The Catholic Church (CC) has committed to repairing & maintaining the organ. Climate control alone is a vast improvement.The CC has & maintains 1000's of organs, many og signif importance. As 4 hymns, the notion of Catholic v Protestant (P) hymn is not really accurate. If music is theologically sound & musically decent both churches may use it. The perception results from the P hymnody relying mostly on the glorious old hymns, while the CC's Vatican II in the 60's spawned alot of new hymns
@SuperVideodave Come on, you can't go around message boards making comments like that!
It would have been better had Chapman University purchased it and kept the church available as a performing arts center!
It's dangerous to use absolutes like that. Maybe for a certain Body of Christ, contemporary music is good.... but the same can be said for traditional worship music. The reason that traditional hymns and organ led congregations have survived this long is obviously because it WORKS and people can surely worship with it! I am fond of both; I worship alone with guitar and singing, but in a church setting, organ led is the way to go for me. But to each their own, neither has "no purpose."
I agree with all of your points. It sure hit rock bottom at the hands of Sheila's choice of music directors, but I saw that happening the first time I saw her get up and start singing that awful praise and worship, ( WHICH IS NEITHER ).
I have to say what has been done is awful. I attend Seattle First Baptist and we are holding fast to the hymns. The days churches go modern or contemporary is the day I leave the church!
Apparemment la commande de tutti reste souvent bloquée ! Cette volonté d'en mettre plein les oreilles est anti-musicale au possible !
Nope because it's the Holy Catholic Church now NOT a protesting church!!! :D I am a formwr Baptist now Catholic Christian!!!
Working your way through them all? I'd give Southern Baptist a miss.
I know that the Hebrew-in-Chief, God, does not care what label we(sinners) place on the building!!! We(sinners) are commanded to bow down and Worship Him in any and all denominations!!!
I prefer direct communion with the Lord. Don’t trust someone carrying prayers for me. Remember the millennium when Roman Catholic Church wouldn’t even let you read a Bible for fear of knowing the truth. And my roots are Lutheran and the Roman Catholic Diocese of Germany demanded that my would-be grandfather x 4 convert back or die. He chose to die. So my grandmother x 4 Hublesch immigrated to the US and married my grandfather x 4. And they brought Martin Luther with them.
Kaleb Lippert No. You are Protestant Baptist member. The word catholic means universal,so, unless you converted to the Roman variety you still remain a Protestant Baptist Christian. There was a time when the word Protestant meant Pro-test- ant. Alas, those days are over. We may pay consequences for going to sleep 💤.
How very sad that it's comes to this. Sheila's choice of contemporary music is a BIG mistake. Please return to the former......it's so majestic!
Thankfully, the nut (Schuller's daughter) who brought in the contemporary worship mess is now gone, and so is the horrible music! They've gone back over to traditional organ/choir music. Too bad they didn't do this before the church hit rock bottom!!!
Nope. I can't stand great organ music being "drowned out" by a choir. I want to hear that behemoth rip & roar and rock & roll, without interruption by a bunch of singing...yuk! :) Let him "show off", that organ is amazing and needs nothing else to augment or reinforce it. Choirs to me are kind of like a bunch of people trying to push the Queen Mary to make it go faster, lol!
The lord is king... another example of Christianity's superfluousness.
traditional worship music is terrible .. outside of a youth setting, it has no purpose .. i attended an Episcopal church who attempted this and the results were disastrous