The City Council and The Cult - A Night in the Woods Theory
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ค. 2024
- When Night in the Woods was first released in 2017, most of us assumed that the City Council members were part of the Cult of the Black Goat, due in large part to their conspicuous absence from the epilogue. But just like with Aunt Molly, the Weird Autumn edition put them back in the epilogue, removing the possibility that they're full fledged members.
But is it possible that they could be Cult supporters? Sympathizers? Or are they, like Molly, totally unaware of what's really going on in the town? Let's dive in! - เกม
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So Colleen, at the end of my last playthrough, said something about her husband or brother having not made it home last night. I can't remember exactly what she says, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone she knows and is close to, is a cult member.
That's really interesting! I'll have to take another look at that! Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if someone she knows is a Cult member. If it's her husband or brother, that would definitely explain a lot!
Woah I didn’t even think of the character “animals” intentionally mirroring the main cast 🤯 I figured the developers had run out of usable sprites. Then, when you broke down the pecking order of the council with the bird as senior most member… I realized that Germ (bird) is the least present member of the main cast. Mae (cat) is both the leader and the outsider. Molly (cat) is the furthest removed from council leadership and in many ways an outsider. Now I need to let that stew until I figure out what it means. Maybe there are hints in the councils conversations?
All the credit to Mrs. OwlBatross on that one! I showed her the side by side picture of the Cult over dinner, planning to go over my thoughts on what their outfits tell us about them, and then she made that observation and I was speechless! Good catch about the Germ/Gary and Mae/Molly comparison! I'll definitely be taking a look at what all of that might mean at some point down the road!
If you follow the council members after they talk with Bruce they actually compliment his set up
Oh interesting! I'll definitely have to follow them on my next playthrough and check that out! Thanks for the heads up!
whilst i dont think he is shown in game i think it might be possible that "creek" the employee at the ol pickaxe that works for bea could be a cult member due to his shady personality it is mentioned too that beas dad warned her about creek which could indicate that beas dad was maybe a former member but left the group after beas mother died? pulling at strings here but hey-ho
I really like the idea of Bea’s dad having been a cult member and quitting when his wife died. He acts as if he’s been cheated and just gives up on life and dumps it all on Bea. He has no social life because the cult were his friends. Despite his recent inability to work, the cult wouldn’t harm him as long as the Ol’ Pickaxe stays open.
That's a really interesting idea! I hadn't thought about Creek at all, but it would definitely make a lot of sense! I'll add him to the list! I'll be taking a look at Bea's dad as well, there are a lot of theories about him out there!
I love this theory! Makes a lot of sense to me. I was planning on looking at Bea's dad anyway, because there are a lot of theories about him, mainly because of the fact that he's not in their apartment during the epilogue, so I'll definitely have to factor this in as well!
I love your NITW analysis videos, listening to them in the background while I'm doing other tasks is really relaxing and intriguing!
Thank you! I tend to do the same thing with other video essays myself - they're always on while I'm doing chores!
hey I actually never really noticed the parallelism between the city council members and the protagonists, this is awesome honestly. Also I love your videos, thank you for sharing your thoughts on 'em. This is one of my favourite channels and I'm open to see what comes next. 🤙
Thank you so much, I'm glad you're enjoying my channel so far! I have a ton more videos on the way and I'm really excited to keep the conversation going about this great game. I would've never noticed the parallelism between the City Council and the Protagonists either, Mrs. OwlBatross really made an incredible observation on that one!
Greg because he mentioned murder cult when Mea first arrives back.
Obvious joke aside really interesting video and I look forward to see who you have written down as points of interest.
While I don't think he's in the cult or knows about it I am interested if theirs any extra information about Mr.Chazokov.
Thank you! I'm really excited to dive into my ever growing list of suspects, it's going to be a fun video to make!
There is some more info on Mr. Chazokov! I'll actually be doing a video on him down the line! He's easily one of my favorite side characters!
the joy it brings me to see new detailed videos about night in woods
You're welcome! I have so much fun making these videos! Hopefully they'll help keep the community occupied while we wait for Revenant Hill!
This is a really good theory , as for characters I think might be in the cult it's a little obvious but definitely that one smelters guy
Thank you! That's a good suggestion - I'll definitely take a look at him in the next theory video!
Man, flashing back to a fanfic I made a years and years ago. This "Bureau of Deucery" were high-ranking cultists and "inside men" in the town's politics aspiring to branch out and take over the world. They confront each of the heroes and try to kill them, only to be killed themselves in over-the-top ways, accompanied by Arnold Schwarzenegger-level one-liners, like Gregg lighting Coleen on fire with Bea's lighter and acetone, quipping "You look pretty burnt out." One of the best was Angus throwing Gary into a tablesaw, saying "Anyone order chicken cutlets?"
That sounds incredible! You should definitely send that my way, I'd love to read it!
@@owlbatross9187 Yeah, I used the term "fanfic" loosely...it was more like "notes" for a retelling of NITW as a parody of 90's beat 'em up games. It did NOT take itself seriously, and was meant to be a dumb and bad adaption on purpose. Everybody's last name was even different, to further emphasize the "removedness": Mae Borowski became Broflovski (as in Kyle Broflovski), Gregg Lee became Halford (as in Rob Halford of Judas Priest) & Angus Delaney became Emmerich (as in Hal Emmerich). But my favorite was Bea Santello becoming Alighieri, as in Dante Alighieri, as it jokes with how there IS a Beatrice in Dante's works that represents the female capacity for divine love, and NITW Bea's a miserable chain smoker who harbors animosity towards Mae at first. In true beat 'em up fashion, Bea is kidnapped, whilst stopping to get another cigarette going after fighting with Mae and leaving disgustedly. The cult values her because she is so full of despair that she will make the perfect vessel for the Black Goat's catalyst (sort of like Alessa Gillespie from SH1). She WAS put through hell and back, after all! (Yes, Dante's Inferno pun intended)
Criminally underrated omg this video made me really appreciate NITW
Thank you so much! I appreciate it!
Great video As always and ya it’s definitely obviously that at least grey and colleen are at least maybe supporters of the cult maybe that’s also why they look down on homeless people not just people there Rich and powerful people who look down on the week but also maybe so that be sacrificed by the cult which is actually pretty messed up if you think about it as for other characters who could be connected to the cult I don’t really know I mean there so many characters that could be that connected that I can’t really explain all of them and why I think there connected to the cult can’t wait to see who you think is
Thank you so much! Yeah, Gary and Colleen as cult supporters just makes so much sense and really helps add some weight and importance to their awful treatment of the homeless people of Possum Springs. It's bad enough as it is, but their connection to the Cult just makes it even worse! I've got a long list of characters to tackle in that upcoming video, I'm excited to get to work on it!
I noticed the fact that the council members and the main cast were so similar but I never really dug into the meaning behind them!! The reason being that the council members are foils make total sense and I would love more analysis on that :00 Thanks for making these NITW theory videos, I'm a newer member of the community and it makes me so happy that there are still people who love this game and are willing to share theories and analyze this amazing game
Welcome to the community! All the credit to Mrs. OwlBatross on that one, I'd have never thought of it myself! I'll definitely be doing some more analysis on that point in the future. I'm glad you've enjoyed my videos, I have a bunch more on the way!
i just found your NITW videos and have been binge watching them and its been such a fun series to watch!! thank you for your hard work and attention to detail with this game (:
You're welcome! Thank you so much for watching the videos for this series! I love making them, they're so much fun to put together! A bunch more are on the way!
Awesome video! I really enjoy watching your videos when i'm cooking or gardening. 😀
Thank you! And oh nice, that sounds like a perfect time to watch these videos! I often watch other video essays while doing chores myself!
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I have no idea what night in the woods is, or why I clicked this video even but other than mic quality it seems well made so.. wish you well on your journey to 1k subs! here is a lucky cat Stormageddon the Decrepit
Thank you! I'm hoping to hit 1k by the end of the summer! Yeah, I really need to get one of those nifty microphone boxes so I can drown out the AC noise in my basement haha
I love your theory videos, I've recently gotten back into Night in the Woods, so seeing another passionate fan of the game, and not to mention the quality of your videos, I love it, keep up the great work dude! 🐈⬛️🦊🐊🐻🐦
Thank you! I appreciate it! My hope is to make this channel a hub for all things Night in the Woods - and Revenant Hill when it comes out! I'll have another NITW video out on Friday!
I, personally, believe the epilogue appearances could be invalid. It's never stated that the cult members died, and they even hint towards them surviving, even if it's only a few members. The extreme views the consul hold and display make me believe they ARE members of the cult and survived the cave in. Hell they know that mine better than anyone, who's to say they didn't have a escape route ready?
That's definitely possible! The fact that the cult members know the mines better than anyone else is a great point, and thus might've known a way out, is a fair point! If they had ever made a sequel, I'm sure they would've covered that possibility to some degree.
I love hearing more recent stuff about NITW, this game is so good. I've also binged as many videos as you put out, I hope you keep at it
Thank you so much, I'm glad to hear you've enjoyed the videos! I have a ton more on the way!
I'm not as in-depth to make any judgements about who might be members or affiliated, but I will say that I wonder if they have for example relatives or spouses who are members? Like, that could bring in some of the connective tissue. But anyway, I do think this kind of helped me realise something I didn't consider - even if they're not direct members, certain council members could be corrupt and be in the cult's pockets to allow them to exist and approve their activities while as politicians they try to enforce local policy that pushes things in a reactionary and market capitalist driven agenda.
Well said! I think people having relatives/spouses who are Cult members is definitely pretty likely. And yeah, with as big as the Cult is, especially in such a small town like Possum Springs, it makes sense for them to have an apparatus that exists beyond just their full fledged members. For a long time, I thought the Cult and the Council were completely unrelated, until I considered the possibility of them being more distantly affiliated.
Great stuff as always! your contents fantastic! cant wait for the next video! (:
Thank you! I'm very excited to get to work on the next video, speculating about potential Cult members is so much fun!
Very interesting video, keep up with the NITW content ❤🎉
Thank you! My next NITW video should drop in about 2 weeks or so!
I read Gary's hanging comment and Mae's response as deeply sarcastic.
This game was everything I want in a game. Admittedly I did turn on accessible games (and still found the rhythm lung check minigame difficult). I think one thing that disappointed was that I didn't get to see a conclusion to Ollie. I gave him pills one night and the next day he's no longer on my rotation. I'd love to see more from the game, but that's cause I fell in love with the story and characters and didn't want to leave it yet.
Excited to see what your theories are! 👀
No shame in using the accessible mini games - that option is there for a reason and I'm glad they put it in! I would've liked to have seen a conclusion to Ollie as well - maybe we'll get some more about him in an update. If the game does well and it gets a strong following like NITW, I wouldn't be surprised to see them add some more to it, but we'll see how it goes!
I'm stoked to do some theory videos! I have some thoughts on the source of the illness, gonna see if I can pick up on anything else in my next playthrough!
@@owlbatross9187 Yeah that was pretty sudden. I remember the night before it was revealed that a lot of new patients were having similar issues. Was properly foreboding. It'll be great to hear your thoughts on it in a future video!
This is a good example of how media literalism damages the value of a text. For example, claiming that Gary is affiliated with the cult because his politician views are mirrored in the cult. The cult can very clearly be read as a metahpor for politics, and for the disillusionment that younger generations feel towards the American Dream. When reading the text through the lens of metaphor, similarities between the cult and politicians is easily to understand asbeing symbolic. Spending hours teying to figure out who is in the cult is lose the bigger picture of what the art is trying to say.
I understand where you're coming from, but I think there's plenty of room for both interpretations with NITW. From a metaphorical perspective, that's definitely what they're getting at here, particularly in terms of how the state of the American Dream is perceived in the Rust Belt. But from an in-universe perspective, I think the question of who is in the cult is a great and intriguing question to ask given the open ended nature of the ending and the fact that even the characters wonder about it in the epilogue. And I think you can explore that topic while also acknowledging the core metaphor at work with the Cult
Aunt Molly? you mean Wae? /j
You look way too much into dialogue. Sometimes expressions are just expressions.
That’s because it’s a theory. Theories have to look into every possibility, even if they might seem ridiculous.
This is amazing
Thank you so much! And thanks again for the channel art!