I installed tens of thousands of gabions, mostly in creeks for bank stabilization. They worked great. But then Fish and Game bizarrely decided they weren't environmentally acceptable (never understood why) and that was the end of that work for us. We literally lined miles of creeks with gabions - they looked great, especially if you included planter pockets and placed topsoil on top and seeded. They looked like a native slope above the scour line. Fish and critters would hide in the voids in the rock and likely survive high flow events. If you used mattress-type gabions on shallow slopes with topsoil and seeded then, you could walk on top of them a year later and never know they were there. The two main types were Maccaferri Gabions (almost like chainlink fencing) and the more rigid Hilfiker welded-wire gabions. Maccaferri are better for waterways since they are flexible.
They use them a lot in Europe to maintain slopes that have falling rock debris near roads, but look how lovely these can be in a structure! Seems that they would also be good in earthquake zones and also for supporting terraces on a property with different levels.
I was the junior member of a team rebuilding small river banks in central Pennsylvania in 1972. We used gabions that were 6’x3’x3’ with a chain link material. It was October to December before we worked the contract. Most of the rock was taken from the river bed, so we spent most of the days wading in near freezing, knee deep or deeper water looking for just the right rocks for facing and filler.
They do not work well to stop erosion, they do not prevent undercutting. They are also a vertical "wall" that prevents wildlife from making it from the water to the shore. It's much better to use riprap (6" and smaller) rock on a 2/3 slope. Properly done, this prevents undercutting and allows wildlife a path from the water. It also has the benefit of looking more natural.
Rio Grande Park Restrooms. Aspen, Colorado. Charles Cunniffe Architects. Year Completed 2014. Gabion wire crib filled with river rock obtained on-site from the ongoing stormwater pond redevelopment, while the simple gable & shed roofs are of rusted steel reminiscent of Aspen's mining heritage. Hot rolled steel plate surrounds case the windows and doors allowing deep recessed openings.
Good use of what would otherwise be waste material and probably has great thermal properties for heating and cooling ( particularly cooling in the summertime ). The only thing I might be concerned with was annual perimeter maintenance to prevent soil and tree roots from ingressing into the buried gutters and up into the cladding.
Grand Design Australia, Bushfire House, had gabions like this on the outside. They filled it up with waste from a tile or brick manufacturer instead of stone. It was a really cool house. Very expensive.
I have a very large, 35 yr old gabion wall with galvanized cages. No rust, No damage. I have considered making it into a building and perhaps cementing portions of it. It would be like a huge castle.
I saw this in Aspen last year. I thought the same as you... Very cool construction. The inside of the bathroom is really nice too lol. Glad to see you do a breakfown of it.
In '95 I traveled to Goma, Zaire on a mission to care for orphans from the Rwandan Civil War. I seen similar homes built like this. Goma is built on lava. The home I speak of are not occupied by refugees, but residents of the city. These are the poorest of the poor. They built the framework from thin branches, sticks twigs and vines, and used lava rocks for the fill.
I've wanted to build something like this ever since I've seen gabion walls along the highway but my wife thinks I'm crazy. Wondered if you could do it in sections where each section is a framed with 2" x 10" lumber. 1' or 2' for the top and bottom. 8' or 10' for the sides. 2" steel mesh at the front and back. 3" granite rocks in the core (I love how granite looks when its raw and there's no mortar and I think the wood would add to it). Thinking you could build on the ground and then tilt it to vertical as Jake said. One thing you could try to keep the stone from distorting the frame could be to wire the mesh in the front to the mesh in the back and the wood at one side to the wood on the on the other side as you're adding the stone. Put plywood on the bottom and top when you build it on the ground and remove that after the tilt as that might keep help to things in place while you're doing the tilt. Maybe put some kind of granite colored fabric after you layer in the first 5" / before you layer in the last 5" as that would block any gaps that you would otherwise be able to see through.
I suspect this building was cheaper than you think. Gabion cages are pretty cheap, and I'd assume the stone came from on or near the property. The steel work was probably pricey, but likely cheaper than commercial products with similar durability. The rest appears fairly standard.
Seems to me that those would be filled standing. There is a large amount of weight in those gabions. If you have access to river rock it could be done fairly economically and not all that time intensive. Ive filled a few gabions.
100% there is no way those were filled then stood up. That wire frame would never support the weight horizontally, plus the equipment to do so is not normally available on construction sites
I enjoyed the kid trying to kick the door down in the background - the core 10 makes a sturdy door frame! Also your hashtag helps with the location... Thanks Jake.
When it eventually breaks down, is it a safety issue? Does it need a foundation? Does it shed water properly? Some decent questions prople need to examine.
At 7000 feet up in the Rockies, there is less humidity and less oxygen to oxidize (rust) steel components than at lower elevations. The building will not last forever, of course, but will require less maintenance than many people think.
Radiative heat from the sun obviously heats only the first layer or two of stones. If you think about the few, small, points of contact among those stones, especially as this repeats across their depth, there’s probably little conductive heat transfer from front to back. And there’s great air circulation to carry the heat away. It’d be fascinating for someone to make measurements and estimate all that, either in this building itself or in a simple model. Blunting the heat gain of a house during the worst hours of the day may be almost as good, and much more affordable, than some of the elaborate plans using expensive materials. Not that this specific configuration is practical as is. It’s a concept.
I think it would be treated like a standard repair. You pull the stones, replace the cage. Put the stones back in place. It would be just like anything else that would need to be repaired. Cost to repair correlates directly to the original cost to install.
Looks like a public restroom in a city park. One side is for guys other side is for women. A lot of Cities like to use different building styles in parks to test them for larger projects in the future. It's really interesting.
The questions that leap to mind are: 1) is the anticipated service life without exterior maintenance to be much greater than 100 yrs (e.g. 150+ yrs?) a design intent? 2) is maximum wildfire resistance a design intent? 3) is the sound transmission reduction a very high value? 4) are the maintenance costs intended to be minimized for the intended service life? 5) is there a thermal mass component to this design? 6) is there a settlement accommodation intent or earthquake resistance design component? 7) tornado or hurricane resistance? I can’t help but think this is intended as a long term design test construction and it may have received a grant to carry this type of construction out.
Good questions... a few more, additional structural support requirements, graffiti clean up, thermal resistance, frost wedging from trapped snow water, rodents/ insects/reptiles... River run is sometimes delivered with concrete batch trucks; fill a low wall from the top in place, and vibrate down? Glaze it in for a Trombe wall? Interesting and would like to see a long-term report from an owner.
I would think treating this as any other wall assembly and having a solid footing makes the most sense. Water isn’t going to move very far into this stone work. It looks very open but it really isn’t.
Roaches eat rocks and steel? Roaches do lay eggs in rotting paper. Get a modern international building code book, and check out all the ways builders can legally and cheaply build you a cardboard skinned in toxic PVC facade to look like stone disposable home. Why build anything to last anyways, we will all be out of potable water in our lifetimes.
Gabions work until they rust out. We have them here in the mountains holding back steep walls along the sides of roads. They do shed water, true but They do eventually fail. Water will take its toll. Snow and ice will speed up the process. Sure, it looks cool on a building, but repairing these walls is going to be a nightmare. Gabions have their place….in landscaping for sure, but on the walls of a building that will need replacing in 20-30 years? Not unless you can afford the repairs, which given the location, may not be an issue.
Before they did the domus winery Herzog and de Meuron did a house in Switzerland that used a concrete frame, corten steel windows, and dry stacked (rain screen walls.) I believe a traditional masonry method from that area of Switzerland. I bet anything that this building your showing is in Switzerland or Germany.
@@davidrussell8689 Corten steel is used for shipping containers, which have a service life of 25 years. Much of that service life they are on the high seas where they are constantly exposed to salt water; a severely corrosive environment.
@@williamdavies1192 Maybe 40 years. Its normal steel not very thick. Not galvanized metal. Not sure how long ungalvanized barbed wire lasts in that area of the same thickness. Too bad the window sills are dead flat and collecting dirt. Is there some kind of plaster and lath in the interior I wonder. Interesting how they put some colorful rocks on the outside to add interest. The stuff might be colorful when wet especially.
I'm sorry, all I can see is the cages rusting away and the rocks all falling out. Rocks are the most durable thing to build with, if you shape them correctly and take mortar out of the equation. Look at the Lion Gate at Mycenae... 4000 years old and still standing.
3:15.. don't mean to be overly picky but.. the depth of the window well from the outside does not prove the thickness of the wall on the inside. For sure stone walls are by their nature much thicker than stick framing and a 2' thick wall is not uncommon but from this picture alone one cannot say for sure where the interior wall butts up against the well. No offence to your vid!👍🏼 Cool building. ☀
im using gabion using gold mine waste rock, looks tits and 3 foot base 6 ft tall is easy peazy you pour in one foot lifts then tie, pour in place with a skidloader bucket and the kicker is with a 2x12 planter on top anything will grow that have thorns,but im just that interesting , with skill lol
I believe the cages are corten steel and should last a very long time. The other side of this discussion is, what happens when any building has something go wrong? You repair it. Claddings fail all the time. Peeling paint, cracking mortar joints, hail damaged vinyl siding, we fix what has an issue.
really interesting but i think the wire mesh that holds the stone is not thick or rigid enough. it has a bit of a floppy appearance. it makes you feel kind of like the stones are going to burst out. this does not contrast well with the windows which are thick steel, rigid and straight and angular -- strong. the wire mesh should also look stark and rigid and i personally would have liked a galvanized mill finish a lot more than the spindly rusty string look. i also think the stones dont match the windows or the overall theme of this structure. the soft, round, colorful stones clash with the idea of a stoic, enduring structure that transcends the eons. they look too silly for that. a darker, uniform colored stone, more angular, would work much better. i also think the lack of any significant overhangs is a mistake. it looks like a cottage without them. and obviously a cottage is not the right shape for a building with corten steel details. im very glad that you shared this building with us though because its so refreshing to see inspired buildings!
@@jake.bruton.aarow.building yeah, agree - but you subconsciously avoided the obvious CRITICAL DESIGN OVERSIGHT. That wire gauge will not last very long. It is short sighted. Only Aspen could / would not care. They HAVE UNLIMITED BUDGETS. It will be messy to deal with. Looks at first glance to be low maintenance - until you realize that rust is a reality - especially in Aspen. Lived there, done that.
@@jake.bruton.aarow.building Tax payers have no choice. Trillions in debt and We The People did not have a voice in any of it. Guarantee a private company could have and would have built that same thing for cheaper or something just as nice for cheaper. But you keep believing the government spends tax dollars wisely. Must benefit in some way from it.
@@myrrhavm I think you are confusing local tax dollars on the city level with federal government spending. This was a local government project, in which there were local hearings and the municipality voted on the matter and the citizens approved the project. I didn’t make an arguement that anyone spent the money in an effcient way, or that private industry couldn’t have done it more effectively. What I am saying is that what happened is what you are advocating for. The tax payers voices were heard and in this instance this is what they wanted.
I would think you make a repair. Same as when any cladding has an issue. Or any shingle has an issue, you make a repair when the building has problems you fix them.
Super simple to lay another mesh over the previous one before it rusts out. Cheaper than the first, where most of the cost is lifting the rock into position. Surprised they didn’t do the first layer with galvanized mesh tho so it just doesn’t rust at all. For anyone who’s spent time in hot parts of war zones, you’ve probably lived in gabion housing. The army corps of engineers defaults to gabion construction as a very fast cheap way to build walled bases and bullet/shrapnel/mortar/RPG-proof walls. I suspect the speed of construction plus very local fill could rival or beat the cost of any other construction method.
Core-ten steel is used "untreated" in exterior projects everyday. The oxidation forms a barrier to protect the steel from further oxidation. Outdoor sculptures use this a lot. Not cheap, but super durable.
I installed tens of thousands of gabions, mostly in creeks for bank stabilization. They worked great. But then Fish and Game bizarrely decided they weren't environmentally acceptable (never understood why) and that was the end of that work for us. We literally lined miles of creeks with gabions - they looked great, especially if you included planter pockets and placed topsoil on top and seeded. They looked like a native slope above the scour line. Fish and critters would hide in the voids in the rock and likely survive high flow events. If you used mattress-type gabions on shallow slopes with topsoil and seeded then, you could walk on top of them a year later and never know they were there. The two main types were Maccaferri Gabions (almost like chainlink fencing) and the more rigid Hilfiker welded-wire gabions. Maccaferri are better for waterways since they are flexible.
They use them a lot in Europe to maintain slopes that have falling rock debris near roads, but look how lovely these can be in a structure! Seems that they would also be good in earthquake zones and also for supporting terraces on a property with different levels.
The metal causes heavy metal poisoning where it rusts. Especially galvi. I been making living walls w gabion concepts. It's fun
I was the junior member of a team rebuilding small river banks in central Pennsylvania in 1972. We used gabions that were 6’x3’x3’ with a chain link material. It was October to December before we worked the contract. Most of the rock was taken from the river bed, so we spent most of the days wading in near freezing, knee deep or deeper water looking for just the right rocks for facing and filler.
They do not work well to stop erosion, they do not prevent undercutting. They are also a vertical "wall" that prevents wildlife from making it from the water to the shore. It's much better to use riprap (6" and smaller) rock on a 2/3 slope. Properly done, this prevents undercutting and allows wildlife a path from the water. It also has the benefit of looking more natural.
Rio Grande Park Restrooms. Aspen, Colorado. Charles Cunniffe Architects. Year Completed 2014.
Gabion wire crib filled with river rock obtained on-site from the ongoing stormwater pond redevelopment, while the simple gable & shed roofs are of rusted steel reminiscent of Aspen's mining heritage. Hot rolled steel plate surrounds case the windows and doors allowing deep recessed openings.
Hanging out in the rest rooms...
Good use of what would otherwise be waste material and probably has great thermal properties for heating and cooling ( particularly cooling in the summertime ). The only thing I might be concerned with was annual perimeter maintenance to prevent soil and tree roots from ingressing into the buried gutters and up into the cladding.
Jake there is another interesting aspect of this design system. It is bullet proof.
That was one of my first thoughts: Highly defensible! Prolly need to narrow those windows though ;)
American?
Every normal house is bullet proof. European
Grand Design Australia, Bushfire House, had gabions like this on the outside. They filled it up with waste from a tile or brick manufacturer instead of stone. It was a really cool house. Very expensive.
That looks like a snake, scorpion, lizard, and spider sanctuary.
all natural exterminators
mouse, rat, wasp
I have a very large, 35 yr old gabion wall with galvanized cages. No rust, No damage. I have considered making it into a building and perhaps cementing portions of it. It would be like a huge castle.
That is gorgeous
I saw this in Aspen last year. I thought the same as you... Very cool construction. The inside of the bathroom is really nice too lol. Glad to see you do a breakfown of it.
*The thermal mass* means it will be cool in summer and warm in winter, it will require little or no AC / heating
In '95 I traveled to Goma, Zaire on a mission to care for orphans from the Rwandan Civil War. I seen similar homes built like this. Goma is built on lava. The home I speak of are not occupied by refugees, but residents of the city. These are the poorest of the poor. They built the framework from thin branches, sticks twigs and vines, and used lava rocks for the fill.
I've wanted to build something like this ever since I've seen gabion walls along the highway but my wife thinks I'm crazy. Wondered if you could do it in sections where each section is a framed with 2" x 10" lumber. 1' or 2' for the top and bottom. 8' or 10' for the sides. 2" steel mesh at the front and back. 3" granite rocks in the core (I love how granite looks when its raw and there's no mortar and I think the wood would add to it). Thinking you could build on the ground and then tilt it to vertical as Jake said. One thing you could try to keep the stone from distorting the frame could be to wire the mesh in the front to the mesh in the back and the wood at one side to the wood on the on the other side as you're adding the stone. Put plywood on the bottom and top when you build it on the ground and remove that after the tilt as that might keep help to things in place while you're doing the tilt. Maybe put some kind of granite colored fabric after you layer in the first 5" / before you layer in the last 5" as that would block any gaps that you would otherwise be able to see through.
Gabions are typically filled from the top, in place. They're cheap if you can harvest the rock on site.
I suspect this building was cheaper than you think. Gabion cages are pretty cheap, and I'd assume the stone came from on or near the property. The steel work was probably pricey, but likely cheaper than commercial products with similar durability. The rest appears fairly standard.
But 2x the labor cost at least.
Seems to me that those would be filled standing. There is a large amount of weight in those gabions. If you have access to river rock it could be done fairly economically and not all that time intensive. Ive filled a few gabions.
Looking back filled standing makes way more sense.
100% there is no way those were filled then stood up. That wire frame would never support the weight horizontally, plus the equipment to do so is not normally available on construction sites
I enjoyed the kid trying to kick the door down in the background - the core 10 makes a sturdy door frame! Also your hashtag helps with the location... Thanks Jake.
It is located in a public park in Aspen.
Guessing it's a public bathroom.
RIO GRANDE RESTROOMS in Aspen, CO
Congratulations, you just made a spider/scorpion haven.
When it eventually breaks down, is it a safety issue? Does it need a foundation? Does it shed water properly?
Some decent questions prople need to examine.
At 7000 feet up in the Rockies, there is less humidity and less oxygen to oxidize (rust) steel components than at lower elevations. The building will not last forever, of course, but will require less maintenance than many people think.
All siding has a lifespan.
If it can be done again.in 10 years... why not? If it breaks... does it become a safety issue?
Radiative heat from the sun obviously heats only the first layer or two of stones. If you think about the few, small, points of contact among those stones, especially as this repeats across their depth, there’s probably little conductive heat transfer from front to back. And there’s great air circulation to carry the heat away. It’d be fascinating for someone to make measurements and estimate all that, either in this building itself or in a simple model. Blunting the heat gain of a house during the worst hours of the day may be almost as good, and much more affordable, than some of the elaborate plans using expensive materials. Not that this specific configuration is practical as is. It’s a concept.
Ah nice, Scorpion and Snake, etc. AB&B......
Damn, whoever designed this was at the peak of their powers - gutsy ass, architecturally significant design
I love this building - Rio Grand Restrooms Aspen Co
What happens when the metal cage rusts or corrodes away? Can the stone perhaps be sprayed with or filled in with something to solidfy and seal it?
I think it would be treated like a standard repair. You pull the stones, replace the cage. Put the stones back in place. It would be just like anything else that would need to be repaired. Cost to repair correlates directly to the original cost to install.
Looks like a public restroom in a city park.
One side is for guys other side is for women.
A lot of Cities like to use different building styles in parks to test them for larger projects in the future.
It's really interesting.
The questions that leap to mind are: 1) is the anticipated service life without exterior maintenance to be much greater than 100 yrs (e.g. 150+ yrs?) a design intent? 2) is maximum wildfire resistance a design intent? 3) is the sound transmission reduction a very high value? 4) are the maintenance costs intended to be minimized for the intended service life? 5) is there a thermal mass component to this design? 6) is there a settlement accommodation intent or earthquake resistance design component? 7) tornado or hurricane resistance? I can’t help but think this is intended as a long term design test construction and it may have received a grant to carry this type of construction out.
I would like to know the answers to all your questions.
I'm curious about the thermal mass qualities as well
Good questions...
a few more, additional structural support requirements, graffiti clean up, thermal resistance, frost wedging from trapped snow water, rodents/ insects/reptiles...
River run is sometimes delivered with concrete batch trucks; fill a low wall from the top in place, and vibrate down?
Glaze it in for a Trombe wall?
Interesting and would like to see a long-term report from an owner.
It is cost efective, the stones are free 😊
How heavy do you want your building?
Yes.
Rodent protection will be a challenge.
let the snakes do their thing
It will be perfect. The weight doesn't permit digging. Smaller gravel on base or crushed inside eliminate issues
How to keep the wire from being cut, torn, or wearing/rusting out and then the stones falling out?
It has a 50yr rating.
Wouldnt it be practical to build these on a rubble trench foundation? With french drain in the bottom.
I would think treating this as any other wall assembly and having a solid footing makes the most sense. Water isn’t going to move very far into this stone work. It looks very open but it really isn’t.
How do you deal with the wire cages eventually rusting & losing integrity???? Otherwise cool
Given where it is (including the elevation) maybe rust is less of an issue, but I'd worry the cage would fail due to rust.
Roaches Love this style!
Are the roaches going to hurt the stones?
Roaches eat rocks and steel?
Roaches do lay eggs in rotting paper.
Get a modern international building code book, and check out all the ways builders can legally and cheaply build you a cardboard skinned in toxic PVC facade to look like stone disposable home.
Why build anything to last anyways, we will all be out of potable water in our lifetimes.
Hmm, where did they get the rocks ? Out of a stream ?
Stream on the property.
Architect must be a Soundgarden fan.
I believe this is the restroom building at the Rio Grande Trail Park in Aspen, CO. Looks unique!
Gabions work until they rust out. We have them here in the mountains holding back steep walls along the sides of roads. They do shed water, true but They do eventually fail. Water will take its toll. Snow and ice will speed up the process. Sure, it looks cool on a building, but repairing these walls is going to be a nightmare. Gabions have their place….in landscaping for sure, but on the walls of a building that will need replacing in 20-30 years? Not unless you can afford the repairs, which given the location, may not be an issue.
Cool spot
Nice, I wonder if the architect, owner or builder was a fan of Herzog & de Meuron's Napa Valley winery from the late 90s
I just went and looked it up. Wow. Very cool.
Considering that’s been published literally everywhere, I would say the chances are high…
🤔 Maybe the Architect likes to house spiders, snakes, rats, and other little creatures?
Before they did the domus winery Herzog and de Meuron did a house in Switzerland that used a concrete frame, corten steel windows, and dry stacked (rain screen walls.) I believe a traditional masonry method from that area of Switzerland. I bet anything that this building your showing is in Switzerland or Germany.
River rock. Rounded edges.
That’s really interesting. I hope someone post that knows where that is
It is located in a public park in Aspen Colorado.
Jackson triggs winery in Niagara is Gabion
Aspen!!!
Good thermal mass
next time show the inside as well, was waiting for the inside footage and there was none
It is a public restroom so footage from inside seemed inappropriate.
Very interesting concept. One concern would be the corrosion of those steel cages over time .
My comment: *GOING TO BE A MASSIVE PROBLEM WHEN IT RUSTS THROUGH* they really should have used stainless steel
@@piccalillipit9211you do know how Corten Steel works?
@@1truthseeking8 “weathering steel “ sounds great but it depends on your perspective of time . Do we build for today or do we build for tomorrow ?
@@davidrussell8689 Corten steel is used for shipping containers, which have a service life of 25 years. Much of that service life they are on the high seas where they are constantly exposed to salt water; a severely corrosive environment.
What happens when the cage wire rusts out? Just curious.
When the cage rusts out, and it will, it's going to be a problem.
Yea here in 150 years...
@@williamdavies1192 Maybe 40 years. Its normal steel not very thick. Not galvanized metal. Not sure how long ungalvanized barbed wire lasts in that area of the same thickness. Too bad the window sills are dead flat and collecting dirt. Is there some kind of plaster and lath in the interior I wonder. Interesting how they put some colorful rocks on the outside to add interest. The stuff might be colorful when wet especially.
I'm sorry, all I can see is the cages rusting away and the rocks all falling out. Rocks are the most durable thing to build with, if you shape them correctly and take mortar out of the equation. Look at the Lion Gate at Mycenae... 4000 years old and still standing.
3:15.. don't mean to be overly picky but.. the depth of the window well from the outside does not prove the thickness of the wall on the inside. For sure stone walls are by their nature much thicker than stick framing and a 2' thick wall is not uncommon but from this picture alone one cannot say for sure where the interior wall butts up against the well. No offence to your vid!👍🏼 Cool building. ☀
I wonder how the Building inspector viewed this...
With his eyes!!!
I always wondered why No one ever built a building like that 🤔
⚡️Electrocution⚡️ risk, (to me) would be a Major concern ! 🤺
im using gabion using gold mine waste rock, looks tits and 3 foot base 6 ft tall is easy peazy you pour in one foot lifts then tie, pour in place with a skidloader bucket and the kicker is with a 2x12 planter on top anything will grow that have thorns,but im just that interesting , with skill lol
So once the steel rusts through it collapses🤔. Looks cool but built with mortar it would last a thousand years +
R factor if loose stone is bear ZERo😂
It's all fun and games until the metal mesh rusts through. 🤪😀
*GOING TO BE A MASSIVE PROBLEM WHEN IT RUSTS THROUGH* they really should have used stainless steel
What happens when the metal rusts to shit
Yeeeaaahhh, naaahh, What happens when the steel rusts and the rocks fall all over the place?
I believe the cages are corten steel and should last a very long time. The other side of this discussion is, what happens when any building has something go wrong? You repair it. Claddings fail all the time. Peeling paint, cracking mortar joints, hail damaged vinyl siding, we fix what has an issue.
really interesting but i think the wire mesh that holds the stone is not thick or rigid enough. it has a bit of a floppy appearance. it makes you feel kind of like the stones are going to burst out. this does not contrast well with the windows which are thick steel, rigid and straight and angular -- strong. the wire mesh should also look stark and rigid and i personally would have liked a galvanized mill finish a lot more than the spindly rusty string look. i also think the stones dont match the windows or the overall theme of this structure. the soft, round, colorful stones clash with the idea of a stoic, enduring structure that transcends the eons. they look too silly for that. a darker, uniform colored stone, more angular, would work much better. i also think the lack of any significant overhangs is a mistake. it looks like a cottage without them. and obviously a cottage is not the right shape for a building with corten steel details. im very glad that you shared this building with us though because its so refreshing to see inspired buildings!
So a Karen neighbor with a wire cutter can bring the whole house down.
And so will time when wire is rusted up.....
Keep in mind a small child with a hammer can break any window and Hardie siding as well. Most buildings are not meant to be attacked.
@jake.bruton.aarow.building yes but Karens..... who can tell....
@@jake.bruton.aarow.building yeah, agree - but you subconsciously avoided the obvious CRITICAL DESIGN OVERSIGHT. That wire gauge will not last very long. It is short sighted. Only Aspen could / would not care. They HAVE UNLIMITED BUDGETS. It will be messy to deal with. Looks at first glance to be low maintenance - until you realize that rust is a reality - especially in Aspen. Lived there, done that.
Un caillou deux trois, au total combien? Le grillage un peu large, ça rouille le fer, l’inoxydable tiendra plus. 😮😅 😅 😊 😂
It's goat fence and it's built as it stands , not flat and stood up after filling.
Agreed. Looking back it was dumb of me to think that might have been the method.
Don’t like this seen it used for walls as well not a fan
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I'm not a fan of the look.
Very cool building. With an inexhaustible amount of tax payers money, there’s no discounting what the government would spend to build something.
Or maybe the tax payers are ok with the municipality spending their money to create beautiful things for everyone to enjoy?
@@jake.bruton.aarow.building Tax payers have no choice. Trillions in debt and We The People did not have a voice in any of it. Guarantee a private company could have and would have built that same thing for cheaper or something just as nice for cheaper. But you keep believing the government spends tax dollars wisely. Must benefit in some way from it.
@@myrrhavm I think you are confusing local tax dollars on the city level with federal government spending. This was a local government project, in which there were local hearings and the municipality voted on the matter and the citizens approved the project. I didn’t make an arguement that anyone spent the money in an effcient way, or that private industry couldn’t have done it more effectively. What I am saying is that what happened is what you are advocating for. The tax payers voices were heard and in this instance this is what they wanted.
@@myrrhavm Ayn? Ayn Rand, is that you? Your libertoonian is showing.
What happens when the metal cages rust? Crap house
I would think you make a repair. Same as when any cladding has an issue. Or any shingle has an issue, you make a repair when the building has problems you fix them.
Super simple to lay another mesh over the previous one before it rusts out. Cheaper than the first, where most of the cost is lifting the rock into position. Surprised they didn’t do the first layer with galvanized mesh tho so it just doesn’t rust at all.
For anyone who’s spent time in hot parts of war zones, you’ve probably lived in gabion housing. The army corps of engineers defaults to gabion construction as a very fast cheap way to build walled bases and bullet/shrapnel/mortar/RPG-proof walls. I suspect the speed of construction plus very local fill could rival or beat the cost of any other construction method.
Core-ten steel is used "untreated" in exterior projects everyday. The oxidation forms a barrier to protect the steel from further oxidation. Outdoor sculptures use this a lot. Not cheap, but super durable.