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@@berealrb1496 That is how I understood it also. The ministry leadership bears the responsibility of hearing from the Lord concerning the ministry. So in that regard, when leadership says, “The Lord is instructing the ministry to do thus-and-so”, the leadership IS “the voice of God” to those working in the ministry. - Just as Moses was “the voice of God” to the Israelites. (Btw, God dealt rather harshly with anyone who tried to usurp Moses’ leadership.) But that does NOT take the place of ppl hearing the Lord in their personal lives (“Should we buy this house?”, “Where should we give offerings to the Lord?”, “What school should our children attend?”, etc)
I love how you don’t ignore these things happening in Christendom. This REALLY needs to be openly discussed, as you’ve done, in our churches with great scriptures to discuss. It’s healthy.
Years a Joni was confronted about her in depth practices of yoga. (The worship of a false god) She chose to ignore our concerns. I remembered that. She said she was doing it for body conditioning. In order to not be a stumbling block, I would have discontinued any yoga practice. That was a red flag for me. It stayed with me.
If they were only stretching excesses for her, they were only stretching exercises for her, thank you. The 25th of December approaches... want to talk about pagan roots? 🙂
Very tasteful and honest biblical commentary on what is happening. The Father said that this was going to be a time of sifting in His church. These are times of prayer for the saved and the unsaved. Thank you, Wanda, for your loving and honest words.
My biggest problem with the entire situation is that everyone is forgetting Jonathan & Suzie's daughter who was molested by someone high up in the organization, Joni interviewed the granddaughter and said nothing happened and the granddaughter was not to speak of it againg,. How come this isn't an issue, for this is the only issue, the rest is misdirection. My opinion, Praise God in all things great & small, glory to God, Jesus is KING
We don't know that. We only know that Jonathan and Suzy say that happened. Suzy also said her child was touched by another child in her preschool (a number of years ago obviously) and Suzy also said that she herself was molested by a chiropractor that Daystar employed). I'm a woman myself but that many accusations in one family to me are suspect. Suzy gives me a deceitful vibe.
Wanda I am so sad about all of this. And I've heard DS spends lavishly on jets for the "ministry" but they use it for personal use. Before Marcus passed they bought that jet and when asked if it was $ from the government for covid Marcus said no and walked away quickly and Joni used the jet to go see her boyfriend/now husband. This is very disheartening. I'm afraid to give to most ministries. And when ministry spend 10 minutes asking for $ every single time they are broadcasted. It is terrible. Then you can go look at networth and they have millions...really? Why don't they also use those millions? While the rest of us work like slaves to have a crust of bread. I'm so sick and tired of the greed.
Find some great causes like local homeless ministries, abused women's shelters, animal shelters, food banks, habitat for humanity, etc. There are so many good causes out there. Don't let these toxic people abuse you!
Wanda I'm so thankful you are addressing this. Many christian leaders are just ignoring it and hoping it will just go away. Why aren't more christian leaders addressing these issues
Many have been under this type of treatment in small churches for years with no accountability. My dedicated marriage and calling was extinguished through many years of appealing to 5 different pastors for accountability for my husband's verbal and emotional abuse. There were no elders or counselors that would hold my husband accountable to neglect and spiritual/psychological abuse and would twist it against me even though I brought witnesses in a very respectful way. 3 generations have suffered due to the callousness and self-protection in these churches, even though I appealed to them according to the word of God and proper judgement. I believe God will use this broken system to bring a total turnaround in His body to protect the most vulnerable before another generation is Lost!! Father, we trust you will restore what has been stolen by the enemy and bring us back to humility and true spiritual fathers as Paul said we have need of❤
Thank you for speaking on this in such a non-salacious manner. Also the conversation about the church being family and not seeing the issues clearly is so needed; I came out of a church many years ago and I still struggle from time to time that I was unable to see what was right in front of my eyes.
One of the things I’ve noticed rising up on social media is the pitchforks and lanterns crowd that doesn’t believe in the gifts of the spirit or the 5-fold. They are of course having a field day with this. Sad.
Every video I have seen of this scandel, not one of the so called ministry's believe in or operate in the 5 fold ministry, do not believe in modern day Apostles or Prophets OR the gifts of the spirit. They are the most carnel, fleshly ministeries I have ever seen and yes, the world is having a field day with it all. Oh how the devil must be rejoicing! But he has no clue what is coming forth from this all.! And soon, as the smoke settles and the fire dies down, he will see something come forth from the fire so terrifying he won't know how to Handel it! We WILL come forth as the shining ones, arrayed with glory and power and might! He dint stand a chance!
Thank you, Wanda, for this video. I've watched several of the other videos showing up, and they've been disappointing and frustrating. Yours is truly helpful.
One of the worse thing for me is that it's all about the adults there is very little being focused on the child that had things happan to her that will stay with her forever I pray that God heals anything in her heart is healed
Wanda, thank you so much for your wisdom and LOVE ❤️ I've been watching for you for a few years now, your love and wisdom for fallen leaders. The truth of how we as the Ecclecia are to respond. You are so full of grace as we all should be. You are truly a beautiful representative of the Proverbs 31 woman. ❤
This phrase: I'm the voice of God is taken out of context. Every leader hears the voice of God for direction Whats wrong with that? Every pastor should hear voice of God for their church and impart direction to their people.
Wanda, I truly appreciate and thank you for not only your insight but balanced and yet honest response to what is taking place. I’ve listened to several other videos on this specific topic and yours gives a thoughtful, godly overview which also shows compassion and understanding on how these things can evolve even with good intentions. Thank you for a truly Christian perspective that offers room for repentance and hope. You’re a true leader. Gos bless you and your ministry.
You hit it right on the head at 21 minutes in -the Lord was talking to me this morning about people in the lime light and the spiritual attacks that happen. Right on. 👍🏼 💥💥💥💥
Excellent wisdom for the Body of Christ and God honoring insights. May we pray for our leaders. I am praying the Scriptures of your excellent book. Thankful for you. God bless.
I listened to the audio. Yes, I was shocked by all parties words. :( However... Suzy and Jonathan were very defiant, and I had to keep in mind that Jonathan knew he was recording that meeting, so he would have tempered his responses duly (Suzy too for that matter) and still they came off as defiant. What are they like when there is no recording? It was weird.
Suzy said they obeyed because they where told of a position… after that no way are going to submit. This is all so sad. They are so filled with un forgiveness and bitterness . Nothing like a woman’s scorn. Vengeance is mine says the Lord. They are trying to hard to get Joni. Sad part is they are bringing down their own family everyone is being torn apart. The body of Christ is crazy. This is a TV Station a business.
Joni and her coven tried to explain a lot but forgot to explain why they placed trackers on the cars and private investigators to follow and photograph them. Is that standard protocol for Daystar employees?
I've been watching The Unction- Ray Curry Jr.( Joni Lamb enraged) and others. My husband and I have been laughing because we have been through so many toxic churches/ organizations it's healing to get away from the secrecy of abuse. The whole Christian t.v. ministry world shuts down what you can and can't say.
Ephesians 6:12 says We fight not against flesh and blood … and ends with… and against spiritual wickedness in high places. This is speaking of people, ministers, leaders in high places of the church. The sifting is happening.
I thank you from the bottom of my heart for disllaying humility and extending the heart of the Father to all. As a prodigal, I am very saddened by all this, and the silence of the celebrity ministers is all I need to know what I need to know.
I see many red flags also. And i am certainly not taking up for the behavior of Joni or jimmy, i also see something else. Johnathan and susie were the inly onws knowing this was being taped. I listened to Joni,s side also. And this sounds alot like what happened at TBN yrs ago, when one son went about to cause major trouble in the family because he wanted the empire. Paul and jan Crouch at that point were also in a bad olace. Just as i believe Daystar and TBN started off right, they went off the rails somewhere. This situation also looks alot like King David and his son Absalom. Again, not taking sides or condoning anyones behavior, but i want everyone to think for themselvws and hear what Holy Spirit has to say about it all. I DO NOT think susie and Johnathan are innocent in it all! Not by a long shot! When things go off the rails as this ministry obviously has, then the enemy will try his best to finish the job. But even in it all, God is exsposing things! He has had enough of his house becoming a moneychangers table and he will havw a house of prayer. He is turning over tables in this hour.
Mathew 7:22-23 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
If stuff happened by a minister, leader etc a lot of years ago AND accountability was required, I don't understand why we bring up things from the past.
Joni on Daystar has a video out today explaining the entire truth. Suzi has been pushing Jonathan through this whole thing because she believes Jonathan should’ve been president of Daystar.
Accountability, years ago, was thru a denomination, now most of these personalities have established their own church, where they have no overlords to keep them in line; people follow a personality because of their charisma, their gifted way of speaking, the more followers, the more they become wrapped up in their message. They set up a board, and most of these personalities have time it’s made up of yes men, in order to be in the inner circle of the speaker.
@@ritahannahs3703you’ve heard Joni’s version, she has not heart in this situation for her family, or for the many people who are paying her salary thru donations, not meant for luxurious, elitist living
Eric's wife: Thank you Wanda. God bless the other people too who have been speaking up and putting our foot down as to abuse not being allowed in God's house. I hear you say that you were shocked. It so strange as a survivor of narcissistic abuse to hear this from others how shocking hearing something like that from THIS person, whoever it may be. To the abused that which gives you a shock is presented as if its the shocking thing is normal.
I've never watched Day star but having read some comments about what happened to this little girl absolutely dreadful being sexual assaulted Joni Lamb and the person who did it need to get on their knees and ask the Lord for forgiveness and really repent they will one day face God for judgement sadly this little girl will remember what has happened to her she will need a lot of care yes l do believe God is cleansing the Church God bless from the UK
What can you do?... I guess I'm all alone thinking Joni has any kind of right to expect a certain amount of respect. It was extremely sneaky to record the conversation so he can act so lofty and no one else is aware of the judgement he unleashed on his Mom........
There's a very big reason he recorded it. This mess started back in 2019 and Johnathan and his wife and child were done very wrong and when you're dealing with evil spirits with power and money then you probably should cover the bases even in family matters. They all need prayer and especially the little girl.
@@NS-fj3jr it’s pretty obvious why he recorded it but it was sneaky just the same. she fired her son for not signing a non disclosure agreement , & he was not capable of reading anything nice off some card about Doug…because they hate Doug’s guts…🍿
@@NS-fj3jr He was fired because he wouldn't sign a non disclosure agreement and because he refused to read something of a card about Doug because he hates his guts. 🍿
@@NS-fj3jr i don't know why this is not allowing me to reply...... She fired him because he refused to sign a non disclosure agreement & because he hates her new husband, Doug.
That conversation was taped without Joni and the other guys knowledge. They were both frustrated after numerous meetings with Susie and Jonathan to try to resolve things. I don’t think it’s fair to judge unless you listen to Joni’s talk today or talk to her personally. I really feel bad because all these ministries are jumping on board with Joni and Susie and I think they’re going to regret it.
@ she explained everything even the fact that that Pete was in the room with an eight year-old and holding a baby while her granddaughter came up to change her clothes. I’m telling you, Suzi is rebellious and she’s pushing Jonathan into all this division. I’ve got experience believe me with rebellious children and liars. So I stay with Daystar. And I’m sorry, but I will no longer follow you and there’s a couple of the ministries I won’t follow.
@ exactly. And why didn’t they pursue this when Marcus was alive? Once Mark passed away then Susie figured Jonathan would be president. I’m telling you I’ve been through things with rebellious kids, lying, counselors, cheating husband, being a widow, etc. and why would they have to get this all over the Internet? If your daughter was really molested, would you want your daughtermolestation being posted all over the Internet? That’s some she’s gotta live with with the rest of her life. Jonathan and Susie need an awakening and a shock from God because what they’re doing is 100% wrong.
A leader in Ministry must follow the Word of God, God's word is our foundation. Mark 10:9-12 Therefore what God has joined together, let no man separate.” In the house His disciples also asked Him again about the same matter. So He said to them, “Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her. And if a woman divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery.” The issue is Doug was married and he divorced his wife and now he's married to Joni. Which makes that an Adultererous marriage. And then Jimmy Evans a supposed Marriage counselor accepted them. It's the hypocrisy. The Word also says a leader in Ministry must be married to one wife , not two like Doug. This disqualifies them both as leaders.
Wanda, love you, love that you cover all topics that are affecting the sheep, thank you. I agree with your assessment, but I do want to interject a thought. Daystar was built and established by Marcus and Joni. DS is their children’s inheritance, not Mr Weiss’ children’s inheritance. For that reason alone, a prenuptial agreement may have been needed for clarity, understanding and agreement. I’m not sure that specific issue could, or would be, addressed properly in a last will and testament.
There are 2 great prayer books you have recently published, which are right full of excellent application of prayer for this situation and many others, Why aren't you praying prayers heartfelt and Scriptural prayers for both groups of people involved instead of this monologue. We are called to pray and encourage each other, I am truly disheartened every time one of these types of stories come out, especially when our failures are made visible to the general public, and worse when the story is magnified and added to, it hurts all Christians, I pray this latest failure does not turn even one of the little ones away from God.
What Joni doesn’t understand is when you tell the truth you don’t have to chase the allegations. Because the truth always takes care of these things. The evidence when you tell the truth only leads to truth. In steady when you lie you keep chasing trying to get ahead of the truth .then everything else that comes out you feel that you have to defend because you are not telling the truth. If you told the truth then more evidence doesn’t come out that can damage your side of a matter.
I believe Johnathan has been very gracious in dealing with this all especially when hos daughter was hurt by someone in the family and Joni and her first husband told them that they had to let it go and Joni said God said the family member was innocent. Even after being caught in Johnathan and Suzy daughters bedroom with her naked . That was no accident and Joni and Marcus wanted it buried and swept under the rug. I feel evil spirits are involved in this. So yes prayers for all, but I believe God has brought this to light because they're was never any repentance on the families part or the predators part.
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God is purifying the church! Holiness and reverence is coming back!
That’s what I’m sensing too. Thank You Lord. Nothing that is hidden will be kept in secret!
When ANYONE says "I am God’s voice to you" RED FLAG
Yes. Jesus doesn't require intermediaries.
My understanding is Joni hears from God for the ministry of Daystar so Jonathon submits to her direction as a boss, not for his personal life.
@@berealrb1496 Does that justify trying to force him to read something on air that he felt was wrong?
You should have said, “When anyone says I am God’s voice to you, RUN!” . Yes it’s a red flag but that’s an understatement.
@@berealrb1496 That is how I understood it also. The ministry leadership bears the responsibility of hearing from the Lord concerning the ministry. So in that regard, when leadership says, “The Lord is instructing the ministry to do thus-and-so”, the leadership IS “the voice of God” to those working in the ministry. - Just as Moses was “the voice of God” to the Israelites. (Btw, God dealt rather harshly with anyone who tried to usurp Moses’ leadership.)
But that does NOT take the place of ppl hearing the Lord in their personal lives (“Should we buy this house?”, “Where should we give offerings to the Lord?”, “What school should our children attend?”, etc)
I love how you don’t ignore these things happening in Christendom. This REALLY needs to be openly discussed, as you’ve done, in our churches with great scriptures to discuss. It’s healthy.
Years a Joni was confronted about her in depth practices of yoga. (The worship of a false god) She chose to ignore our concerns. I remembered that. She said she was doing it for body conditioning. In order to not be a stumbling block, I would have discontinued any yoga practice. That was a red flag for me. It stayed with me.
Red flag indeed. When was that?
If they were only stretching excesses for her, they were only stretching exercises for her, thank you. The 25th of December approaches... want to talk about pagan roots? 🙂
Yoga - is the worship
Practice of yoking yourself with a demon God ( look
It up) stretching is great … Yoga and “bowing down to the moon “ is evil
Wow 😮😮😮😮😮
Shaking begins in the church! Pray for discernment.
JE and Joni were so abusive and cruel. Jezebel is strong in this situation.
Unfortunately we are just getting started ! It is much much worse than anybody can imagine . All over the world .
Very tasteful and honest biblical commentary on what is happening. The Father said that this was going to be a time of sifting in His church. These are times of prayer for the saved and the unsaved. Thank you, Wanda, for your loving and honest words.
My biggest problem with the entire situation is that everyone is forgetting Jonathan & Suzie's daughter who was molested by someone high up in the organization, Joni interviewed the granddaughter and said nothing happened and the granddaughter was not to speak of it againg,. How come this isn't an issue, for this is the only issue, the rest is misdirection. My opinion, Praise God in all things great & small, glory to God, Jesus is KING
We don't know that. We only know that Jonathan and Suzy say that happened. Suzy also said her child was touched by another child in her preschool (a number of years ago obviously) and Suzy also said that she herself was molested by a chiropractor that Daystar employed). I'm a woman myself but that many accusations in one family to me are suspect. Suzy gives me a deceitful vibe.
Thank you Wanda for all you do for the Kingdom❤
I hope this serves as a warning to the body of Christ; that we grow in the fear of the Lord. The Word of God warns of the deceitfulness of sin.
Wanda I am so sad about all of this. And I've heard DS spends lavishly on jets for the "ministry" but they use it for personal use. Before Marcus passed they bought that jet and when asked if it was $ from the government for covid Marcus said no and walked away quickly and Joni used the jet to go see her boyfriend/now husband. This is very disheartening. I'm afraid to give to most ministries. And when ministry spend 10 minutes asking for $ every single time they are broadcasted. It is terrible. Then you can go look at networth and they have millions...really? Why don't they also use those millions? While the rest of us work like slaves to have a crust of bread. I'm so sick and tired of the greed.
Just to be clear about this, the money was a loan from the government to pay employees and was repaid. Not sure why they need a jet...
Find some great causes like local homeless ministries, abused women's shelters, animal shelters, food banks, habitat for humanity, etc. There are so many good causes out there. Don't let these toxic people abuse you!
Wanda I'm so thankful you are addressing this. Many christian leaders are just ignoring it and hoping it will just go away. Why aren't more christian leaders addressing these issues
Perhaps they have their own hidden sins & fear exposure
Many have been under this type of treatment in small churches for years with no accountability. My dedicated marriage and calling was extinguished through many years of appealing to 5 different pastors for accountability for my husband's verbal and emotional abuse. There were no elders or counselors that would hold my husband accountable to neglect and spiritual/psychological abuse and would twist it against me even though I brought witnesses in a very respectful way. 3 generations have suffered due to the callousness and self-protection in these churches, even though I appealed to them according to the word of God and proper judgement. I believe God will use this broken system to bring a total turnaround in His body to protect the most vulnerable before another generation is Lost!! Father, we trust you will restore what has been stolen by the enemy and bring us back to humility and true spiritual fathers as Paul said we have need of❤
Thank you, Wanda! You are always so gracious, truthful, and balanced!
Well-said!
My heart is so saddened by recent events, come to light in DayStar.
Thank you for speaking on this in such a non-salacious manner. Also the conversation about the church being family and not seeing the issues clearly is so needed; I came out of a church many years ago and I still struggle from time to time that I was unable to see what was right in front of my eyes.
One of the things I’ve noticed rising up on social media is the pitchforks and lanterns crowd that doesn’t believe in the gifts of the spirit or the 5-fold. They are of course having a field day with this. Sad.
Every video I have seen of this scandel, not one of the so called ministry's believe in or operate in the 5 fold ministry, do not believe in modern day Apostles or Prophets OR the gifts of the spirit. They are the most carnel, fleshly ministeries I have ever seen and yes, the world is having a field day with it all. Oh how the devil must be rejoicing! But he has no clue what is coming forth from this all.! And soon, as the smoke settles and the fire dies down, he will see something come forth from the fire so terrifying he won't know how to Handel it! We WILL come forth as the shining ones, arrayed with glory and power and might! He dint stand a chance!
So good to hear our analysis of this problem in the body of Christ! Thank you!
Thank you, Wanda, for this video. I've watched several of the other videos showing up, and they've been disappointing and frustrating. Yours is truly helpful.
One of the worse thing for me is that it's all about the adults there is very little being focused on the child that had things happan to her that will stay with her forever I pray that God heals anything in her heart is healed
Thanks for speaking up. I believe leaders who will not take a stand against abuse will themselves be judged.
I love the spirit in which this is being delivered
When we listen to anyone and think that whatever they say is " God's voice" we are following man first! The Word of God is first no human none!
Wanda, thank you so much for your wisdom and LOVE ❤️
I've been watching for you for a few years now, your love and wisdom for fallen leaders. The truth of how we as the Ecclecia are to respond.
You are so full of grace as we all should be. You are truly a beautiful representative of the Proverbs 31 woman. ❤
This phrase: I'm the voice of God is taken out of context.
Every leader hears the voice of God for direction Whats wrong with that?
Every pastor should hear voice of God for their church and impart direction to their people.
Wanda, I truly appreciate and thank you for not only your insight but balanced and yet honest response to what is taking place. I’ve listened to several other videos on this specific topic and yours gives a thoughtful, godly overview which also shows compassion and understanding on how these things can evolve even with good intentions. Thank you for a truly Christian perspective that offers room for repentance and hope. You’re a true leader. Gos bless you and your ministry.
You hit it right on the head at 21 minutes in -the Lord was talking to me this morning about people in the lime light and the spiritual attacks that happen.
Right on. 👍🏼
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Excellent wisdom for the Body of Christ and God honoring insights. May we pray for our leaders. I am praying the Scriptures of your excellent book. Thankful for you. God bless.
This is one of the best reaction video I have watched and learnt from. Thank you and blessings
I saw the daystar issue. I want to thank-you for this clear and balanced teaching.
If we are not praying for them then this is only gossip. Lead me Holy Spirit please in prayer for all. Amen
Thank you for explaining many things concerning false teachers & spiritual abuse.
The heart is despicably wicked. Who can know it?
I listened to the audio. Yes, I was shocked by all parties words. :( However... Suzy and Jonathan were very defiant, and I had to keep in mind that Jonathan knew he was recording that meeting, so he would have tempered his responses duly (Suzy too for that matter) and still they came off as defiant. What are they like when there is no recording? It was weird.
Defiant, really! They were just making it clear they were not going to bow down to Joni! Their child was molested, how would you feel?!
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Suzy said they obeyed because they where told of a position… after that no way are going to submit. This is all so sad. They are so filled with un forgiveness and bitterness . Nothing like a woman’s scorn. Vengeance is mine says the Lord. They are trying to hard to get Joni. Sad part is they are bringing down their own family everyone is being torn apart. The body of Christ is crazy. This is a TV Station a business.
What I don’t understand is how the little girl can clearly convey it’s a man taller than daddy and yet can’t say the close friend/family name is Pete?
Maybe she did..they are hiding his name..although, I'm pretty certain we all know who Pete probably is!
Wanda has explained it perfectly.
Truth Wanda!
Joni and her coven tried to explain a lot but forgot to explain why they placed trackers on the cars and private investigators to follow and photograph them. Is that standard protocol for Daystar employees?
And the word is that all the leaders have dirt on each other so no one will tell the truth
Excellent commentary Wanda. Thank you ❤
You always bring a voice of reason to chaotic situations. Thanks for being a pillar of sanity in a world that gets crazier every day.
I've been watching The Unction- Ray Curry Jr.( Joni Lamb enraged) and others. My husband and I have been laughing because we have been through so many toxic churches/ organizations it's healing to get away from the secrecy of abuse. The whole Christian t.v. ministry world shuts down what you can and can't say.
Ephesians 6:12 says We fight not against flesh and blood … and ends with… and against spiritual wickedness in high places. This is speaking of people, ministers, leaders in high places of the church. The sifting is happening.
Father expose the guilty and protest and heal the innocent.❤🙏🙏
I like that, I agree
Wow Wanda, appreciate you v much . So good. Blessings ✝️ 🙌
Thank you Wanda excellent council 🤍🕊
YOU ARE SPOT ON!THE BEST VIDEO ON THIS OUT THERE!INTERESTING THE TRUTH OF THIS CAME FROM YOU & 1 OTHER WOMEN! PRAY FOR REPENTANCE FOR ALL!
Thank you Wanda for this message.
Excellent insight! Joni was lonely and scared of being alone. I am sure that is a part of the hasty marriage.
I thank you from the bottom of my heart for disllaying humility and extending the heart of the Father to all. As a prodigal, I am very saddened by all this, and the silence of the celebrity ministers is all I need to know what I need to know.
What I feel (DISCERN) IS: KJV 1 Timothy 6:10 "For the Love of money is the ROOT OF ALL EVIL".
I see many red flags also. And i am certainly not taking up for the behavior of Joni or jimmy, i also see something else. Johnathan and susie were the inly onws knowing this was being taped. I listened to Joni,s side also. And this sounds alot like what happened at TBN yrs ago, when one son went about to cause major trouble in the family because he wanted the empire. Paul and jan Crouch at that point were also in a bad olace. Just as i believe Daystar and TBN started off right, they went off the rails somewhere. This situation also looks alot like King David and his son Absalom. Again, not taking sides or condoning anyones behavior, but i want everyone to think for themselvws and hear what Holy Spirit has to say about it all. I DO NOT think susie and Johnathan are innocent in it all! Not by a long shot! When things go off the rails as this ministry obviously has, then the enemy will try his best to finish the job. But even in it all, God is exsposing things! He has had enough of his house becoming a moneychangers table and he will havw a house of prayer. He is turning over tables in this hour.
This was a business not a ministry.
Thank you for this
We are getting cleaned up!❤
Thank you for speaking the truth
Profound and thoughtful. Thank you.
Well said Wanda thank you and thank you Lord
Mathew 7:22-23
Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
Thank you, Wanda. ❤
Yes, ministry bubbles can be dangerous! ❤
Plus Laura Lee Thompson Tyler with Denise Boggs, very enlightening and truthful....and Joni did one with 4 women on Table Talk
Thank you, Wanda.
Excellent, Wanda. Thank you.
Lord forgive us for putting this people on pedestal
Well thought out and well said.
Thank you for this understandable and good teaching.❤🙏
Excellent sister.
Spot on Wanda 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
THANK YOU.. BLESSINGS ❤🎉🙏✝️🙏💐
If stuff happened by a minister, leader etc a lot of years ago AND accountability was required, I don't understand why we bring up things from the past.
Joni on Daystar has a video out today explaining the entire truth. Suzi has been pushing Jonathan through this whole thing because she believes Jonathan should’ve been president of Daystar.
Accountability, years ago, was thru a denomination, now most of these personalities have established their own church, where they have no overlords to keep them in line; people follow a personality because of their charisma, their gifted way of speaking, the more followers, the more they become wrapped up in their message. They set up a board, and most of these personalities have time it’s made up of yes men, in order to be in the inner circle of the speaker.
@@ritahannahs3703you’ve heard Joni’s version, she has not heart in this situation for her family, or for the many people who are paying her salary thru donations, not meant for luxurious, elitist living
The son n wife spoke about its not just submit and obey but that’s how they were taught
Humility is needed. Micah 6:8
Joannie, was laughhing about what she said and she does not have any regrets what she said.I truly believe it is going to fall.
Eric's wife: Thank you Wanda. God bless the other people too who have been speaking up and putting our foot down as to abuse not being allowed in God's house. I hear you say that you were shocked. It so strange as a survivor of narcissistic abuse to hear this from others how shocking hearing something like that from THIS person, whoever it may be. To the abused that which gives you a shock is presented as if its the shocking thing is normal.
Practice what you preach! Lack of humility & transparency!
I've never watched Day star but having read some comments about what happened to this little girl absolutely dreadful being sexual assaulted Joni Lamb and the person who did it need to get on their knees and ask the Lord for forgiveness and really repent they will one day face God for judgement sadly this little girl will remember what has happened to her she will need a lot of care yes l do believe God is cleansing the Church God bless from the UK
Very good..Yes .I thought HUMILITY TOO NEEDED❤🙏✝️🙏💐💯🥰
What can you do?... I guess I'm all alone thinking Joni has any kind of right to expect a certain amount of respect. It was extremely sneaky to record the conversation so he can act so lofty and no one else is aware of the judgement he unleashed on his Mom........
It was the only way he would be believed.
There's a very big reason he recorded it. This mess started back in 2019 and Johnathan and his wife and child were done very wrong and when you're dealing with evil spirits with power and money then you probably should cover the bases even in family matters. They all need prayer and especially the little girl.
@@NS-fj3jr it’s pretty obvious why he recorded it but it was sneaky just the same. she fired her son for not signing a non disclosure agreement , & he was not capable of reading anything nice off some card about Doug…because they hate Doug’s guts…🍿
@@NS-fj3jr He was fired because he wouldn't sign a non disclosure agreement and because he refused to read something of a card about Doug because he hates his guts. 🍿
@@NS-fj3jr i don't know why this is not allowing me to reply...... She fired him because he refused to sign a non disclosure agreement & because he hates her new husband, Doug.
Amen toxic bubbles 🫧
I’m soo learning
Exposure is the word for this present time
Very well explained❤
It sounds like Jimmy Evans is being exposed/called out. We need the fear of the Lord.
I just don’t trust these pastors anymore
Very very good. Thank you
Joni always begging for money as though they don’t have enough
That conversation was taped without Joni and the other guys knowledge. They were both frustrated after numerous meetings with Susie and Jonathan to try to resolve things. I don’t think it’s fair to judge unless you listen to Joni’s talk today or talk to her personally. I really feel bad because all these ministries are jumping on board with Joni and Susie and I think they’re going to regret it.
I watched her response from today. Didn't hear anything to change things (from my perspective).
@ she explained everything even the fact that that Pete was in the room with an eight year-old and holding a baby while her granddaughter came up to change her clothes. I’m telling you, Suzi is rebellious and she’s pushing Jonathan into all this division. I’ve got experience believe me with rebellious children and liars. So I stay with Daystar. And I’m sorry, but I will no longer follow you and there’s a couple of the ministries I won’t follow.
The son said he would go back to daystar if they named him president. He would let this all go. Naw, there’s more going on here.
@ exactly. And why didn’t they pursue this when Marcus was alive? Once Mark passed away then Susie figured Jonathan would be president. I’m telling you I’ve been through things with rebellious kids, lying, counselors, cheating husband, being a widow, etc. and why would they have to get this all over the Internet? If your daughter was really molested, would you want your daughtermolestation being posted all over the Internet? That’s some she’s gotta live with with the rest of her life. Jonathan and Susie need an awakening and a shock from God because what they’re doing is 100% wrong.
A leader in Ministry must follow the Word of God, God's word is our foundation.
Mark 10:9-12
Therefore what God has joined together, let no man separate.” In the house His disciples also asked Him again about the same matter. So He said to them, “Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her. And if a woman divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery.”
The issue is Doug was married and he divorced his wife and now he's married to Joni. Which makes that an Adultererous marriage. And then Jimmy Evans a supposed Marriage counselor accepted them. It's the hypocrisy.
The Word also says a leader in Ministry must be married to one wife , not two like Doug. This disqualifies them both as leaders.
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Wanda, love you, love that you cover all topics that are affecting the sheep, thank you. I agree with your assessment, but I do want to interject a thought. Daystar was built and established by Marcus and Joni. DS is their children’s inheritance, not Mr Weiss’ children’s inheritance. For that reason alone, a prenuptial agreement may have been needed for clarity, understanding and agreement. I’m not sure that specific issue could, or would be, addressed properly in a last will and testament.
There are 2 great prayer books you have recently published, which are right full of excellent application of prayer for this situation and many others,
Why aren't you praying prayers heartfelt and Scriptural prayers for both groups of people involved instead of this monologue.
We are called to pray and encourage each other, I am truly disheartened every time one of these types of stories come out,
especially when our failures are made visible to the general public, and worse when the story is magnified and added to, it hurts all Christians, I pray this latest failure does not turn even one of the little ones away from God.
Thank you. 😊
What Joni doesn’t understand is when you tell the truth you don’t have to chase the allegations. Because the truth always takes care of these things. The evidence when you tell the truth only leads to truth. In steady when you lie you keep chasing trying to get ahead of the truth .then everything else that comes out you feel that you have to defend because you are not telling the truth. If you told the truth then more evidence doesn’t come out that can damage your side of a matter.
God disciplines those He loves
I believe Johnathan has been very gracious in dealing with this all especially when hos daughter was hurt by someone in the family and Joni and her first husband told them that they had to let it go and Joni said God said the family member was innocent. Even after being caught in Johnathan and Suzy daughters bedroom with her naked . That was no accident and Joni and Marcus wanted it buried and swept under the rug. I feel evil spirits are involved in this. So yes prayers for all, but I believe God has brought this to light because they're was never any repentance on the families part or the predators part.
I never go to one. To many hipocrits
Hello Pastor Wanda
I agree about marriage and ministry nda’s. May be a very few exceptions. Proprietary creativity in films, etc.
I don’t know what an nda or mad is haha but this whole thing is so ungodly!
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