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@@berealrb1496 That is how I understood it also. The ministry leadership bears the responsibility of hearing from the Lord concerning the ministry. So in that regard, when leadership says, “The Lord is instructing the ministry to do thus-and-so”, the leadership IS “the voice of God” to those working in the ministry. - Just as Moses was “the voice of God” to the Israelites. (Btw, God dealt rather harshly with anyone who tried to usurp Moses’ leadership.) But that does NOT take the place of ppl hearing the Lord in their personal lives (“Should we buy this house?”, “Where should we give offerings to the Lord?”, “What school should our children attend?”, etc)
I love how you don’t ignore these things happening in Christendom. This REALLY needs to be openly discussed, as you’ve done, in our churches with great scriptures to discuss. It’s healthy.
Confirming I received the same revelation scripture and word that it was pride. Also Isaiah 14:14 "I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High" 😢
Very tasteful and honest biblical commentary on what is happening. The Father said that this was going to be a time of sifting in His church. These are times of prayer for the saved and the unsaved. Thank you, Wanda, for your loving and honest words.
Years a Joni was confronted about her in depth practices of yoga. (The worship of a false god) She chose to ignore our concerns. I remembered that. She said she was doing it for body conditioning. In order to not be a stumbling block, I would have discontinued any yoga practice. That was a red flag for me. It stayed with me.
If they were only stretching excesses for her, they were only stretching exercises for her, thank you. The 25th of December approaches... want to talk about pagan roots? 🙂
The passage in the NT about eating food sacrificed to idols may be appreciated. Many evil pagan practices involve sexual intercourse. But without it, none of us would be here. 🙂
Wanda I'm so thankful you are addressing this. Many christian leaders are just ignoring it and hoping it will just go away. Why aren't more christian leaders addressing these issues
Because they're busy removing the spec from their own eyes. Wanda seems to have a taste for juicy stories. When you point a finger, there are usually 3 pointing back at you.
Many have been under this type of treatment in small churches for years with no accountability. My dedicated marriage and calling was extinguished through many years of appealing to 5 different pastors for accountability for my husband's verbal and emotional abuse. There were no elders or counselors that would hold my husband accountable to neglect and spiritual/psychological abuse and would twist it against me even though I brought witnesses in a very respectful way. 3 generations have suffered due to the callousness and self-protection in these churches, even though I appealed to them according to the word of God and proper judgement. I believe God will use this broken system to bring a total turnaround in His body to protect the most vulnerable before another generation is Lost!! Father, we trust you will restore what has been stolen by the enemy and bring us back to humility and true spiritual fathers as Paul said we have need of❤
Finally someone is addressing the root of the problem and offering a solution to pray for these individuals!!! Thank you Wanda! We the church should not lift these mega churches up and give them any honor and glory that only belongs to God alone!!! Get involved with a local church and hold the accountable to Gods word!
My biggest problem with the entire situation is that everyone is forgetting Jonathan & Suzie's daughter who was molested by someone high up in the organization, Joni interviewed the granddaughter and said nothing happened and the granddaughter was not to speak of it againg,. How come this isn't an issue, for this is the only issue, the rest is misdirection. My opinion, Praise God in all things great & small, glory to God, Jesus is KING
We don't know that. We only know that Jonathan and Suzy say that happened. Suzy also said her child was touched by another child in her preschool (a number of years ago obviously) and Suzy also said that she herself was molested by a chiropractor that Daystar employed). I'm a woman myself but that many accusations in one family to me are suspect. Suzy gives me a deceitful vibe.
Wanda I am so sad about all of this. And I've heard DS spends lavishly on jets for the "ministry" but they use it for personal use. Before Marcus passed they bought that jet and when asked if it was $ from the government for covid Marcus said no and walked away quickly and Joni used the jet to go see her boyfriend/now husband. This is very disheartening. I'm afraid to give to most ministries. And when ministry spend 10 minutes asking for $ every single time they are broadcasted. It is terrible. Then you can go look at networth and they have millions...really? Why don't they also use those millions? While the rest of us work like slaves to have a crust of bread. I'm so sick and tired of the greed.
Find some great causes like local homeless ministries, abused women's shelters, animal shelters, food banks, habitat for humanity, etc. There are so many good causes out there. Don't let these toxic people abuse you!
Thank you for speaking on this in such a non-salacious manner. Also the conversation about the church being family and not seeing the issues clearly is so needed; I came out of a church many years ago and I still struggle from time to time that I was unable to see what was right in front of my eyes.
One of the things I’ve noticed rising up on social media is the pitchforks and lanterns crowd that doesn’t believe in the gifts of the spirit or the 5-fold. They are of course having a field day with this. Sad.
Every video I have seen of this scandel, not one of the so called ministry's believe in or operate in the 5 fold ministry, do not believe in modern day Apostles or Prophets OR the gifts of the spirit. They are the most carnel, fleshly ministeries I have ever seen and yes, the world is having a field day with it all. Oh how the devil must be rejoicing! But he has no clue what is coming forth from this all.! And soon, as the smoke settles and the fire dies down, he will see something come forth from the fire so terrifying he won't know how to Handel it! We WILL come forth as the shining ones, arrayed with glory and power and might! He dint stand a chance!
One of the worse thing for me is that it's all about the adults there is very little being focused on the child that had things happan to her that will stay with her forever I pray that God heals anything in her heart is healed
Thank you, Wanda, for this video. I've watched several of the other videos showing up, and they've been disappointing and frustrating. Yours is truly helpful.
Wanda, thank you so much for your wisdom and LOVE ❤️ I've been watching for you for a few years now, your love and wisdom for fallen leaders. The truth of how we as the Ecclecia are to respond. You are so full of grace as we all should be. You are truly a beautiful representative of the Proverbs 31 woman. ❤
Excellent wisdom for the Body of Christ and God honoring insights. May we pray for our leaders. I am praying the Scriptures of your excellent book. Thankful for you. God bless.
Amen Wanda!!! Thank you for a sobering and calm response to this crisis in The Body of Christ! Holy Spirit has shown me the past five years He was getting ready to "pull down pants!" Exposure is here and more is coming - Discipline begins in The House of God!!!
Wanda, I truly appreciate and thank you for not only your insight but balanced and yet honest response to what is taking place. I’ve listened to several other videos on this specific topic and yours gives a thoughtful, godly overview which also shows compassion and understanding on how these things can evolve even with good intentions. Thank you for a truly Christian perspective that offers room for repentance and hope. You’re a true leader. Gos bless you and your ministry.
You hit it right on the head at 21 minutes in -the Lord was talking to me this morning about people in the lime light and the spiritual attacks that happen. Right on. 👍🏼 💥💥💥💥
This phrase: I'm the voice of God is taken out of context. Every leader hears the voice of God for direction Whats wrong with that? Every pastor should hear voice of God for their church and impart direction to their people.
The Holy Spirit will never contradict the Word of God. That’s why we’re told to test the Spirits, to SEE whether or not they are of God. Even Paul said not to only take his word. However, that’s not what happened here. The bottom line was that Joni was demanding J&S AGREE with her, give the public appearance of supporting her marriage regardless of the truth. God doesn’t coerce. Joni does. That’s witchcraft. God’s nowhere in that.
Joni and her coven tried to explain a lot but forgot to explain why they placed trackers on the cars and private investigators to follow and photograph them. Is that standard protocol for Daystar employees?
We MUST HUMBLE ourselves before the Lord as he uses us to speak 🗣️ to HIS people who are our brothers and sisters in Christ 🎯💯🩷🙌🏽🙏🏽! Lucifer (satan) got kicked out of Heaven for this very same sprit of pride. So we MUST be oh so very careful to guard ourselves as ministers, pastors, leaders, and all in the five fold ministry against a spirit of pride. Daddy God calls us to walk with “clean hearts and pure hands!”
I've been watching The Unction- Ray Curry Jr.( Joni Lamb enraged) and others. My husband and I have been laughing because we have been through so many toxic churches/ organizations it's healing to get away from the secrecy of abuse. The whole Christian t.v. ministry world shuts down what you can and can't say.
Amen! Thank you, Wanda for being willing to step up and speak truth! I agree and appreciate you and others speaking about it! I’m not well versed with Julie Roys, however she did seem to research the information and now has a follow up video with a Pastor, she knows and helps her to stay accountable, as he serves on her board. I think it’s insightful and will also help people further understand the twisting of God’s Word can be dangerous to all.
I thank you from the bottom of my heart for disllaying humility and extending the heart of the Father to all. As a prodigal, I am very saddened by all this, and the silence of the celebrity ministers is all I need to know what I need to know.
Ephesians 6:12 says We fight not against flesh and blood … and ends with… and against spiritual wickedness in high places. This is speaking of people, ministers, leaders in high places of the church. The sifting is happening.
Have been praying with a great burden for the church - especially the leaders - because they affect so many. Obviously, the leaders have let their guard down and fallen because of it. May God help them as they take seriously their call to speak the truth from the pulpits across America. However, God is shaking the church for our good, if we will repent and turn to Him. To me, all the 501 C3 ministries are being tested - all the pride and arrogance is astounding .
What Joni doesn’t understand is when you tell the truth you don’t have to chase the allegations. Because the truth always takes care of these things. The evidence when you tell the truth only leads to truth. In steady when you lie you keep chasing trying to get ahead of the truth .then everything else that comes out you feel that you have to defend because you are not telling the truth. If you told the truth then more evidence doesn’t come out that can damage your side of a matter.
One of the deep flaws of our culture has been allowing the Government into relationships, especially marriage. That incursion has resulted in expecting non-Christians to live up to Christian expectations, and is probably singularly responsible for so much of the downfall of the Covenant of Marriage. A Covenant is not a Contract; it relies on Trust, not on Enforcement. As you have pointed out, converting a relationship from Trust/family into Contract/business... that destroys the relationship.
Mathew 7:22-23 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
I see many red flags also. And i am certainly not taking up for the behavior of Joni or jimmy, i also see something else. Johnathan and susie were the inly onws knowing this was being taped. I listened to Joni,s side also. And this sounds alot like what happened at TBN yrs ago, when one son went about to cause major trouble in the family because he wanted the empire. Paul and jan Crouch at that point were also in a bad olace. Just as i believe Daystar and TBN started off right, they went off the rails somewhere. This situation also looks alot like King David and his son Absalom. Again, not taking sides or condoning anyones behavior, but i want everyone to think for themselvws and hear what Holy Spirit has to say about it all. I DO NOT think susie and Johnathan are innocent in it all! Not by a long shot! When things go off the rails as this ministry obviously has, then the enemy will try his best to finish the job. But even in it all, God is exsposing things! He has had enough of his house becoming a moneychangers table and he will havw a house of prayer. He is turning over tables in this hour.
Eric's wife: Thank you Wanda. God bless the other people too who have been speaking up and putting our foot down as to abuse not being allowed in God's house. I hear you say that you were shocked. It so strange as a survivor of narcissistic abuse to hear this from others how shocking hearing something like that from THIS person, whoever it may be. To the abused that which gives you a shock is presented as if its the shocking thing is normal.
I listened to the audio. Yes, I was shocked by all parties words. :( However... Suzy and Jonathan were very defiant, and I had to keep in mind that Jonathan knew he was recording that meeting, so he would have tempered his responses duly (Suzy too for that matter) and still they came off as defiant. What are they like when there is no recording? It was weird.
Suzy said they obeyed because they where told of a position… after that no way are going to submit. This is all so sad. They are so filled with un forgiveness and bitterness . Nothing like a woman’s scorn. Vengeance is mine says the Lord. They are trying to hard to get Joni. Sad part is they are bringing down their own family everyone is being torn apart. The body of Christ is crazy. This is a TV Station a business.
@@HisFeet3 I agree. And I don't understand how some even Christian leaders see this so differently from me. I pick up a real deceit from Jonathan and Suzy.
If stuff happened by a minister, leader etc a lot of years ago AND accountability was required, I don't understand why we bring up things from the past.
Joni on Daystar has a video out today explaining the entire truth. Suzi has been pushing Jonathan through this whole thing because she believes Jonathan should’ve been president of Daystar.
Accountability, years ago, was thru a denomination, now most of these personalities have established their own church, where they have no overlords to keep them in line; people follow a personality because of their charisma, their gifted way of speaking, the more followers, the more they become wrapped up in their message. They set up a board, and most of these personalities have time it’s made up of yes men, in order to be in the inner circle of the speaker.
@@ritahannahs3703you’ve heard Joni’s version, she has not heart in this situation for her family, or for the many people who are paying her salary thru donations, not meant for luxurious, elitist living
Bcuz the toxic, ungodly behavior continues. Imagine you being a victim reading the comment you just made. Most of these perpetrators have not been held accountable
Wanda, love you, love that you cover all topics that are affecting the sheep, thank you. I agree with your assessment, but I do want to interject a thought. Daystar was built and established by Marcus and Joni. DS is their children’s inheritance, not Mr Weiss’ children’s inheritance. For that reason alone, a prenuptial agreement may have been needed for clarity, understanding and agreement. I’m not sure that specific issue could, or would be, addressed properly in a last will and testament.
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God is purifying the church! Holiness and reverence is coming back!
That’s what I’m sensing too. Thank You Lord. Nothing that is hidden will be kept in secret!
When ANYONE says "I am God’s voice to you" RED FLAG
Yes. Jesus doesn't require intermediaries.
My understanding is Joni hears from God for the ministry of Daystar so Jonathon submits to her direction as a boss, not for his personal life.
@@berealrb1496 Does that justify trying to force him to read something on air that he felt was wrong?
You should have said, “When anyone says I am God’s voice to you, RUN!” . Yes it’s a red flag but that’s an understatement.
@@berealrb1496 That is how I understood it also. The ministry leadership bears the responsibility of hearing from the Lord concerning the ministry. So in that regard, when leadership says, “The Lord is instructing the ministry to do thus-and-so”, the leadership IS “the voice of God” to those working in the ministry. - Just as Moses was “the voice of God” to the Israelites. (Btw, God dealt rather harshly with anyone who tried to usurp Moses’ leadership.)
But that does NOT take the place of ppl hearing the Lord in their personal lives (“Should we buy this house?”, “Where should we give offerings to the Lord?”, “What school should our children attend?”, etc)
I love how you don’t ignore these things happening in Christendom. This REALLY needs to be openly discussed, as you’ve done, in our churches with great scriptures to discuss. It’s healthy.
Shaking begins in the church! Pray for discernment.
JE and Joni were so abusive and cruel. Jezebel is strong in this situation.
Confirming I received the same revelation scripture and word that it was pride. Also Isaiah 14:14 "I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High" 😢
Very tasteful and honest biblical commentary on what is happening. The Father said that this was going to be a time of sifting in His church. These are times of prayer for the saved and the unsaved. Thank you, Wanda, for your loving and honest words.
Unfortunately we are just getting started ! It is much much worse than anybody can imagine . All over the world .
Years a Joni was confronted about her in depth practices of yoga. (The worship of a false god) She chose to ignore our concerns. I remembered that. She said she was doing it for body conditioning. In order to not be a stumbling block, I would have discontinued any yoga practice. That was a red flag for me. It stayed with me.
Red flag indeed. When was that?
If they were only stretching excesses for her, they were only stretching exercises for her, thank you. The 25th of December approaches... want to talk about pagan roots? 🙂
Yoga - is the worship
Practice of yoking yourself with a demon God ( look
It up) stretching is great … Yoga and “bowing down to the moon “ is evil
Wow 😮😮😮😮😮
The passage in the NT about eating food sacrificed to idols may be appreciated. Many evil pagan practices involve sexual intercourse. But without it, none of us would be here. 🙂
I hope this serves as a warning to the body of Christ; that we grow in the fear of the Lord. The Word of God warns of the deceitfulness of sin.
Wanda I'm so thankful you are addressing this. Many christian leaders are just ignoring it and hoping it will just go away. Why aren't more christian leaders addressing these issues
Perhaps they have their own hidden sins & fear exposure
Because they're busy removing the spec from their own eyes.
Wanda seems to have a taste for juicy stories. When you point a finger, there are usually 3 pointing back at you.
Thank you Wanda for all you do for the Kingdom❤
Many have been under this type of treatment in small churches for years with no accountability. My dedicated marriage and calling was extinguished through many years of appealing to 5 different pastors for accountability for my husband's verbal and emotional abuse. There were no elders or counselors that would hold my husband accountable to neglect and spiritual/psychological abuse and would twist it against me even though I brought witnesses in a very respectful way. 3 generations have suffered due to the callousness and self-protection in these churches, even though I appealed to them according to the word of God and proper judgement. I believe God will use this broken system to bring a total turnaround in His body to protect the most vulnerable before another generation is Lost!! Father, we trust you will restore what has been stolen by the enemy and bring us back to humility and true spiritual fathers as Paul said we have need of❤
My heart is so saddened by recent events, come to light in DayStar.
Finally someone is addressing the root of the problem and offering a solution to pray for these individuals!!! Thank you Wanda! We the church should not lift these mega churches up and give them any honor and glory that only belongs to God alone!!! Get involved with a local church and hold the accountable to Gods word!
Thank you, Wanda! You are always so gracious, truthful, and balanced!
Well-said!
My biggest problem with the entire situation is that everyone is forgetting Jonathan & Suzie's daughter who was molested by someone high up in the organization, Joni interviewed the granddaughter and said nothing happened and the granddaughter was not to speak of it againg,. How come this isn't an issue, for this is the only issue, the rest is misdirection. My opinion, Praise God in all things great & small, glory to God, Jesus is KING
We don't know that. We only know that Jonathan and Suzy say that happened. Suzy also said her child was touched by another child in her preschool (a number of years ago obviously) and Suzy also said that she herself was molested by a chiropractor that Daystar employed). I'm a woman myself but that many accusations in one family to me are suspect. Suzy gives me a deceitful vibe.
Wanda I am so sad about all of this. And I've heard DS spends lavishly on jets for the "ministry" but they use it for personal use. Before Marcus passed they bought that jet and when asked if it was $ from the government for covid Marcus said no and walked away quickly and Joni used the jet to go see her boyfriend/now husband. This is very disheartening. I'm afraid to give to most ministries. And when ministry spend 10 minutes asking for $ every single time they are broadcasted. It is terrible. Then you can go look at networth and they have millions...really? Why don't they also use those millions? While the rest of us work like slaves to have a crust of bread. I'm so sick and tired of the greed.
Just to be clear about this, the money was a loan from the government to pay employees and was repaid. Not sure why they need a jet...
Find some great causes like local homeless ministries, abused women's shelters, animal shelters, food banks, habitat for humanity, etc. There are so many good causes out there. Don't let these toxic people abuse you!
Yes, fretting over these self glorified celebrities in the church is JUST THE SAME as the tabloids and Hollywood stars. People eat up this gossip.
Thank you for speaking on this in such a non-salacious manner. Also the conversation about the church being family and not seeing the issues clearly is so needed; I came out of a church many years ago and I still struggle from time to time that I was unable to see what was right in front of my eyes.
One of the things I’ve noticed rising up on social media is the pitchforks and lanterns crowd that doesn’t believe in the gifts of the spirit or the 5-fold. They are of course having a field day with this. Sad.
Every video I have seen of this scandel, not one of the so called ministry's believe in or operate in the 5 fold ministry, do not believe in modern day Apostles or Prophets OR the gifts of the spirit. They are the most carnel, fleshly ministeries I have ever seen and yes, the world is having a field day with it all. Oh how the devil must be rejoicing! But he has no clue what is coming forth from this all.! And soon, as the smoke settles and the fire dies down, he will see something come forth from the fire so terrifying he won't know how to Handel it! We WILL come forth as the shining ones, arrayed with glory and power and might! He dint stand a chance!
😢😢😢 So true
One of the worse thing for me is that it's all about the adults there is very little being focused on the child that had things happan to her that will stay with her forever I pray that God heals anything in her heart is healed
So good to hear our analysis of this problem in the body of Christ! Thank you!
When we listen to anyone and think that whatever they say is " God's voice" we are following man first! The Word of God is first no human none!
Thanks for speaking up. I believe leaders who will not take a stand against abuse will themselves be judged.
Thank you, Wanda, for this video. I've watched several of the other videos showing up, and they've been disappointing and frustrating. Yours is truly helpful.
I love the spirit in which this is being delivered
Wanda, thank you so much for your wisdom and LOVE ❤️
I've been watching for you for a few years now, your love and wisdom for fallen leaders. The truth of how we as the Ecclecia are to respond.
You are so full of grace as we all should be. You are truly a beautiful representative of the Proverbs 31 woman. ❤
Lord forgive us for putting this people on pedestal
If we are not praying for them then this is only gossip. Lead me Holy Spirit please in prayer for all. Amen
Excellent wisdom for the Body of Christ and God honoring insights. May we pray for our leaders. I am praying the Scriptures of your excellent book. Thankful for you. God bless.
Father expose the guilty and protest and heal the innocent.❤🙏🙏
I like that, I agree
And the word is that all the leaders have dirt on each other so no one will tell the truth
Amen Wanda!!! Thank you for a sobering and calm response to this crisis in The Body of Christ! Holy Spirit has shown me the past five years He was getting ready to "pull down pants!" Exposure is here and more is coming - Discipline begins in The House of God!!!
Thank you for explaining many things concerning false teachers & spiritual abuse.
I saw the daystar issue. I want to thank-you for this clear and balanced teaching.
The heart is despicably wicked. Who can know it?
You always bring a voice of reason to chaotic situations. Thanks for being a pillar of sanity in a world that gets crazier every day.
Wanda, I truly appreciate and thank you for not only your insight but balanced and yet honest response to what is taking place. I’ve listened to several other videos on this specific topic and yours gives a thoughtful, godly overview which also shows compassion and understanding on how these things can evolve even with good intentions. Thank you for a truly Christian perspective that offers room for repentance and hope. You’re a true leader. Gos bless you and your ministry.
You hit it right on the head at 21 minutes in -the Lord was talking to me this morning about people in the lime light and the spiritual attacks that happen.
Right on. 👍🏼
💥💥💥💥
This is one of the best reaction video I have watched and learnt from. Thank you and blessings
This phrase: I'm the voice of God is taken out of context.
Every leader hears the voice of God for direction Whats wrong with that?
Every pastor should hear voice of God for their church and impart direction to their people.
The Holy Spirit will never contradict the Word of God. That’s why we’re told to test the Spirits, to SEE whether or not they are of God. Even Paul said not to only take his word.
However, that’s not what happened here. The bottom line was that Joni was demanding J&S AGREE with her, give the public appearance of supporting her marriage regardless of the truth. God doesn’t coerce. Joni does. That’s witchcraft. God’s nowhere in that.
HI WANDA, HI ALL WHO ARE WATCHING. GOD BLESS YOU ALL A HAPPY THANKSGIVING 4 EVER & A MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL.
Merry Christmas to you too!
Wanda has explained it perfectly.
Truth Wanda!
My daily prayer now is Holy Spirit give me discernment and wisdom for these times!!!
Joni and her coven tried to explain a lot but forgot to explain why they placed trackers on the cars and private investigators to follow and photograph them. Is that standard protocol for Daystar employees?
Wanda appreciate the wisdom, you’re hit the nail on the head imho. Excellent points, great video!
We MUST HUMBLE ourselves before the Lord as he uses us to speak 🗣️ to HIS people who are our brothers and sisters in Christ 🎯💯🩷🙌🏽🙏🏽! Lucifer (satan) got kicked out of Heaven for this very same sprit of pride. So we MUST be oh so very careful to guard ourselves as ministers, pastors, leaders, and all in the five fold ministry against a spirit of pride.
Daddy God calls us to walk with “clean hearts and pure hands!”
Thank you Wanda excellent council 🤍🕊
Excellent insight! Joni was lonely and scared of being alone. I am sure that is a part of the hasty marriage.
We are getting cleaned up!❤
Humility is needed. Micah 6:8
Yes, ministry bubbles can be dangerous! ❤
I've been watching The Unction- Ray Curry Jr.( Joni Lamb enraged) and others. My husband and I have been laughing because we have been through so many toxic churches/ organizations it's healing to get away from the secrecy of abuse. The whole Christian t.v. ministry world shuts down what you can and can't say.
Yes, and if the whole TV Ministry bunch shut their doors, no one would be the worse off.
What I don’t understand is how the little girl can clearly convey it’s a man taller than daddy and yet can’t say the close friend/family name is Pete?
Maybe she did..they are hiding his name..although, I'm pretty certain we all know who Pete probably is!
Amen! Thank you, Wanda for being willing to step up and speak truth! I agree and appreciate you and others speaking about it! I’m not well versed with Julie Roys, however she did seem to research the information and now has a follow up video with a Pastor, she knows and helps her to stay accountable, as he serves on her board. I think it’s insightful and will also help people further understand the twisting of God’s Word can be dangerous to all.
I thank you from the bottom of my heart for disllaying humility and extending the heart of the Father to all. As a prodigal, I am very saddened by all this, and the silence of the celebrity ministers is all I need to know what I need to know.
Thank you for speaking the truth
YOU ARE SPOT ON!THE BEST VIDEO ON THIS OUT THERE!INTERESTING THE TRUTH OF THIS CAME FROM YOU & 1 OTHER WOMEN! PRAY FOR REPENTANCE FOR ALL!
Ephesians 6:12 says We fight not against flesh and blood … and ends with… and against spiritual wickedness in high places. This is speaking of people, ministers, leaders in high places of the church. The sifting is happening.
Thank you Wanda for this message.
Well said Wanda thank you and thank you Lord
This was a business not a ministry.
Thank you, Wanda. ❤
Wow Wanda, appreciate you v much . So good. Blessings ✝️ 🙌
Plus Laura Lee Thompson Tyler with Denise Boggs, very enlightening and truthful....and Joni did one with 4 women on Table Talk
Thank you for this
Excellent, Wanda. Thank you.
Excellent sister.
Have been praying with a great burden for the church - especially the leaders - because they affect so many. Obviously, the leaders have let their guard down and fallen because of it. May God help them as they take seriously their call to speak the truth from the pulpits across America. However, God is shaking the church for our good, if we will repent and turn to Him. To me, all the 501 C3 ministries are being tested - all the pride and arrogance is astounding .
Profound and thoughtful. Thank you.
What Joni doesn’t understand is when you tell the truth you don’t have to chase the allegations. Because the truth always takes care of these things. The evidence when you tell the truth only leads to truth. In steady when you lie you keep chasing trying to get ahead of the truth .then everything else that comes out you feel that you have to defend because you are not telling the truth. If you told the truth then more evidence doesn’t come out that can damage your side of a matter.
What I feel (DISCERN) IS: KJV 1 Timothy 6:10 "For the Love of money is the ROOT OF ALL EVIL".
Excellent commentary Wanda. Thank you ❤
One of the deep flaws of our culture has been allowing the Government into relationships, especially marriage. That incursion has resulted in expecting non-Christians to live up to Christian expectations, and is probably singularly responsible for so much of the downfall of the Covenant of Marriage. A Covenant is not a Contract; it relies on Trust, not on Enforcement. As you have pointed out, converting a relationship from Trust/family into Contract/business... that destroys the relationship.
Mathew 7:22-23
Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
Amen toxic bubbles 🫧
Thank you, Wanda.
Well thought out and well said.
THANK YOU.. BLESSINGS ❤🎉🙏✝️🙏💐
It sounds like Jimmy Evans is being exposed/called out. We need the fear of the Lord.
Thank you for this understandable and good teaching.❤🙏
Practice what you preach! Lack of humility & transparency!
Very good..Yes .I thought HUMILITY TOO NEEDED❤🙏✝️🙏💐💯🥰
I’m soo learning
The son n wife spoke about its not just submit and obey but that’s how they were taught
I see many red flags also. And i am certainly not taking up for the behavior of Joni or jimmy, i also see something else. Johnathan and susie were the inly onws knowing this was being taped. I listened to Joni,s side also. And this sounds alot like what happened at TBN yrs ago, when one son went about to cause major trouble in the family because he wanted the empire. Paul and jan Crouch at that point were also in a bad olace. Just as i believe Daystar and TBN started off right, they went off the rails somewhere. This situation also looks alot like King David and his son Absalom. Again, not taking sides or condoning anyones behavior, but i want everyone to think for themselvws and hear what Holy Spirit has to say about it all. I DO NOT think susie and Johnathan are innocent in it all! Not by a long shot! When things go off the rails as this ministry obviously has, then the enemy will try his best to finish the job. But even in it all, God is exsposing things! He has had enough of his house becoming a moneychangers table and he will havw a house of prayer. He is turning over tables in this hour.
Exposure is the word for this present time
Eric's wife: Thank you Wanda. God bless the other people too who have been speaking up and putting our foot down as to abuse not being allowed in God's house. I hear you say that you were shocked. It so strange as a survivor of narcissistic abuse to hear this from others how shocking hearing something like that from THIS person, whoever it may be. To the abused that which gives you a shock is presented as if its the shocking thing is normal.
Joannie, was laughhing about what she said and she does not have any regrets what she said.I truly believe it is going to fall.
Spot on Wanda 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I listened to the audio. Yes, I was shocked by all parties words. :( However... Suzy and Jonathan were very defiant, and I had to keep in mind that Jonathan knew he was recording that meeting, so he would have tempered his responses duly (Suzy too for that matter) and still they came off as defiant. What are they like when there is no recording? It was weird.
Defiant, really! They were just making it clear they were not going to bow down to Joni! Their child was molested, how would you feel?!
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Suzy said they obeyed because they where told of a position… after that no way are going to submit. This is all so sad. They are so filled with un forgiveness and bitterness . Nothing like a woman’s scorn. Vengeance is mine says the Lord. They are trying to hard to get Joni. Sad part is they are bringing down their own family everyone is being torn apart. The body of Christ is crazy. This is a TV Station a business.
@@HisFeet3 I agree. And I don't understand how some even Christian leaders see this so differently from me. I pick up a real deceit from Jonathan and Suzy.
If stuff happened by a minister, leader etc a lot of years ago AND accountability was required, I don't understand why we bring up things from the past.
Joni on Daystar has a video out today explaining the entire truth. Suzi has been pushing Jonathan through this whole thing because she believes Jonathan should’ve been president of Daystar.
Accountability, years ago, was thru a denomination, now most of these personalities have established their own church, where they have no overlords to keep them in line; people follow a personality because of their charisma, their gifted way of speaking, the more followers, the more they become wrapped up in their message. They set up a board, and most of these personalities have time it’s made up of yes men, in order to be in the inner circle of the speaker.
@@ritahannahs3703you’ve heard Joni’s version, she has not heart in this situation for her family, or for the many people who are paying her salary thru donations, not meant for luxurious, elitist living
Bcuz the toxic, ungodly behavior continues. Imagine you being a victim reading the comment you just made. Most of these perpetrators have not been held accountable
Very very good. Thank you
I just don’t trust these pastors anymore
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Thank you. 😊
God disciplines those He loves
Very well explained❤
Hello Pastor Wanda
Wanda, love you, love that you cover all topics that are affecting the sheep, thank you. I agree with your assessment, but I do want to interject a thought. Daystar was built and established by Marcus and Joni. DS is their children’s inheritance, not Mr Weiss’ children’s inheritance. For that reason alone, a prenuptial agreement may have been needed for clarity, understanding and agreement. I’m not sure that specific issue could, or would be, addressed properly in a last will and testament.