This is the first time in my life, at age 61, and being quite a reader, that I have heard of “ mistake theory“ versus “conflict theory.“ Claire does an excellent job contrasting the two. She first started speaking and introduced the phrase, “mistake theory,” I Said to myself while washing dishes, “I’m not sure what this mistake theory is yet but I believe that society is full of mistakes that need to be fixed.“ And after hearing her presentation, I was reaffirmed as a bonafide “Mistake theory“ disciple. I pity the believers in “Conflict theory.”
Simple answer don’t let yourself be bullied, don’t be a bully and don’t keep quiet when someone else is being bullied. Criticisms are welcome and help understanding.
CIS: PLEASE FIX YOUR CHRONIC AUDIO PROBLEMS. Everything from going live with nearly depleted wireless microphone batteries to terrible monitoring and control of recording levels among panel members to apparently no understanding of compression/limiting and gating. Pro Tip: People speak at different volumes and it is your job to make sure that (a) the panel member voices are similar in the recording and that (b) the main recording level is not at -20 dB
I'm reluctant to moan about the audio as they offer their excellent content for free, but damn you guys. Get this very straightforward matter sorted. It's been a problem for quite a while now.
This is unfortunately a problem of a broadcast medium with low barrier to entry - anyone can post stuff on the net. Which is great, but you end up with this sort of problem - a pet peeve of mine as well. Same with video editing where all sorts of "tricks" are used to getting around the shortcomings of amateur video capture, which somehow then go on to be adopted as a quirk of the YT platform.
6:16 lol I’ve literally yet to see a female car mechanic. I’m sure there are some and if I’ve missed them it’s because they’re so rare so I don’t expect it. Which means I am human (pattern recognizing), not misogynistic.
@D' Essay It does look like the age of the US is coming to an end, and we're making a transition towards the age of China. Soaring debt due to unsustainable economic practises (kicked off in the 70s), growing wealth gap, civil unrest, political polarization, increasingly struggling youth with narrowing opportunities, foreign interference in elections and an incompetent president, the US is indeed drilling quite the hole for itself.
Had a filter on my car changed by a female mechanic last time. She was a highly amusing character - we chatted while she did it. Was I impressed? No more than I would have been with any mechanic who had a good sense of humour. Was I secretly delighted to have met someone who was happy to break the mould. of course - live the life you want; and not the life anyone else tells you to live.
I've definitely found this prevalent in hard science societies as well. Especially in several NASA research communities. It's very unfortunate that I'm discriminated against simply for having a moderate-conservative point of view, and being somewhat brave enough to speak to others on social media when I disagree. Although I feel no non-progressive is safe if they're pro-life right now. We have a new lynching mob, and they're more extreme than ever with the new laws in the south.
It’s not just in the humanities. It’s in (in the UK) what’s called ‘Core Studies’, which is a compulsory supplemental extra-curricular course component that feeds into your final exam scores.
She just performed a postmortem on my experience in graduate school in family counseling. My time as a graduate student concluded with me arguing with the program staff over whether or not a person has the ability to summon a fireball from the atmosphere. That's when I was informed that science is a privileged perspective, that I'm a racist, and that I'm not a good fit for that program. Anyway, good luck with the mental health industry once they purge everybody who favors objectivity over superstition.
I just went through a US university and met a Chemistry PhD Candidate doing a dissertation on Queer Chemistry. Zeen lamented that outside the academy zeen was not taken seriously! I kidz you not!
There are for sure some wacky fringe things going on but ... here's the bigger view >> Just as liberals serve to lull moderates into swallowing the increasingly toxic excesses of neoliberal / neocon assaults on we the people and planet, so do Mistake Theorists, by denying taking action to resolve the systemic causes of injustices. Arguing injustices needs to be “studied more” and claiming that Conflict Theorists are “ignorant” reveals Mistake Theorists’ mistake. Status quo norms and structures were designed and are maintained by elites and those who support elites’ Divide to Conquer and other anti-democratic norms to block more egalitarian social models. THAT’s the dominant orthodoxy. Marx’s critique of capitalism has been relevant since first publication. Throughout elites and their patsies have feared Marx’s observations and have designed rebuttals intended to marginalize / belittle critique, of which this lecture is yet another example. Sure there are some wacky illiberal leftists, but they are a tiny if vocal minority and to use them as a foil to suppress calls for structural changes to uproot injustices, that's both illegitimate an example of playing patsy to elites' Divide to Conquer tropes. Related link >> Cultural Marxism: created by Nazis, pushed by Steve Bannon et al th-cam.com/video/liT7e5M6XfY/w-d-xo.html
@@Brianbeesandbikes Brian, you wrote a lot while using standard buzzwords of leftists. You also participate in anti-fascism marches. Good grief man. Cultural marxism wasn't pushed by Bannon (love how you try to link Nazism to Bannon). Wolff never successfully rebuked Peterson (seems like Wolff has some weird fascination with Peterson). >but they are a tiny if vocal minority American academia. Tv/film industry. Publishing. Social media/Big Tech. They say otherwise.
The problem with conflict theory is that it is so all-encompassing, to the point that it can even be extended to minor verbal disagreements over purely trivial matters (i.e. if two or more people are expressing views or opinions that the other disagrees with, they are competing for power and trying to assert dominance over the other's own power and/or status). This is not necessarily a bad thing, since conflict theory - in principle - is perfectly fine when used to examine power structures from a purely descriptive standpoint. The problem comes from the fact that to most of today's young people - spoiled kids in particular - the words "power", "authority", and "hierarchy" carry negative connotations, as they seem to imply oppression and the silencing of others. And there's an obvious danger to this line of thinking: it paints everything that one dislikes or disagrees with as "oppression" - something evil and oppressive that must be destroyed in order for there to be peace. In other words, "there will never be peace until everything that I personally find 'harmful' or 'oppressive' has been eradicated. Thus, the entire world should change to suit ME!" But here's the thing: a world without harm ("oppression") is impossible due to the limitations of human psychology. Like any other organism, our species evolved to do one thing and one thing only - survive and pass on our genes. And what do you have to do in order to survive and pass on your genes? You have to be wary of threats. You have to make sure that there is no harm or danger or otherwise negative stimuli that could possibly harm you or your offspring. This need to be wary of threats has given us what psychologists call the "negativity bias" - we focus more on the negative than the positive, regardless of how positive things are 'in the big picture'. This is because all stimuli enters our brain through the thalamus, which classifies it as either "positive", "negative", or "neutral", and then sends it en route to our frontal cortex, which then determines how we should react to said stimuli. The catch however, is that our brains prioritize negative and neutral stimuli over positive stimuli. The amygdala, which is basically a "shortcut" from the thalamus to the frontal cortex, only allows neutral and/or negative stimuli to pass through (i.e. threats). This makes sense from an evolutionary perspective - if you're living in the wild, the consequences of NOT responding to negative stimuli (such as a danger) can be far more consequential and thus threatening to one's survival than the consequences of NOT responding to positive stimuli (such as an opportunity). This is why we tend to dwell on the negative despite us having the freedom to enjoy life in what is undoubtedly the most peaceful and prosperous era in all of human history; we're ungrateful for what we have because our species evolved to focus on the negative so that we can be wary of danger and keep away from anything that could possibly decrease our chances of survival. Thus, there is a fundamental paradox to human nature: we want to be safe from negative stimuli (i.e. harm/danger/threats/"oppression"), but our minds evolved to constantly be on the lookout for things to feel threatened by. And this leads me to another important point. The negativity bias means that - with few exceptions - WE CANNOT ACHIEVE HAPPINESS BY TRYING TO CHANGE THE WORLD AROUND US. No matter how good things get, no matter how much the world improves, the 'hedonic treadmill' will only ensure that our minds will default to our original, unhappy state within a very short time. This has been a fundamental teaching of all the major religions around the world for thousands of years - Buddhists are encouraged to accept the fact that life is difficult and to be content with one's suffering. Christianity teaches more or less the same thing - be grateful for everything that God has given you and delight in your struggles, for they will ultimately make you stronger and allow you to live a more fulfilling life. This philosophy extends into other cultures as well, and has been adopted by the likes of Jordan Peterson and Jonathan Haidt. As Peterson put it: "You can't fix the world, but you can fix yourself". In fact, it was Friedrich Nietzsche who said that "what doesn't kill us makes us stronger". Those are, of course, broad generalizations - there are diseases and health conditions that can seriously weaken you - but for the most part, it's true. Nassim Taleb says pretty much the exact same thing in his book "Antifragile", and Jonathan Haidt addresses it in Chapter 7 of his first book, "The Happiness Hypothesis". Now, I am not denying that there are injustices in the world that we should try to ameliorate. Rape, Torture, Genocide, Unlawful Arrests, etc. are all serious problems that we should strive (and continue striving) to address, but we have to realize that there is a limit to how much we can improve our imperfect world and make our lives better in the process. We also have to remember that ONE CANNOT BE TRULY HAPPY UNLESS THEY ARE GRATEFUL FOR EVERYTHING THAT IS GOOD IN LIFE. True happiness comes from appreciation for what one has. If you're going to waste your time disproportionately focusing on what is "wrong" with the world, or complaining about things that you don't like, then you are destined for a life of bitter resentment and misery. Does that sound familiar? It should, because it's the attitude of a spoiled 5-year-old. Children, when they first come into the world, lack the experience required to accept and tolerate the adversities of life. They have not yet learned how to overcome hardship, nor how to be grateful for what they have, nor have they come to accept the fact that things do not always go the way that they would prefer them to. These are things that any responsible parent understands and tries to instil in their children. A parent who gives their child everything that the child asks for will only end up spoiling them by creating the illusion that the world exists to serve THEM, and if you go into "the real world" expecting everything to change to suit YOUR ideals, then you're destined for a life of misery. Besides, giving a child everything that they ask for will not even make them happy in the short term, because you can't be grateful if everything gets handed to you. This is why nobody every thinks of such a spoiled child as being happy, much less polite. Responsible parents on the other hand, know better than to just give their child everything that the child asks for. Responsible parents instead raise their children to recognize the fact that life is difficult and that you don't always get what you want, and certainly not without some kind of personal investment of hardship. This is because a responsible parent understands that life, by in large, is about adaptation. You cannot survive in this world if you refuse to adapt and learn to overcome adversity. And that brings us back around to conflict theory and all of its manifestations. Conflict theory - in its extreme form - teaches people to view everything that they dislike as "power and oppression". It is the worldview of a spoiled 5-year-old who expects the entire world to change in order to suit THEIR ideals and MAKE them happy, which is a relatively futile endeavour because, as detailed above, a world without hardship/suffering/"oppression" is psychologically impossible. Viewing everything through a lens of conflict theory (or "the oppressor and the oppressed") is completely maladaptive because it means BLAMING ALL OF YOUR PROBLEMS ON THE WORLD, rather than admitting one's own faults and stopping to ask oneself "how can I change myself so that I can be a better person?" If conflict theory and all of its incarnations were truly committed to fighting actual injustices in the world - women being sold into sexual slavery, or being discriminated against just because they are women - then everything would be fine. In fact, a lot of good actually HAS come out of them for that very reason. I firmly believe that everyone should be TREATED fairly (proportionally, socially, legally, or otherwise), and that "you should not do onto others what you would not have them do onto you". If you consider yourself a feminist, activist, socialist, etc., and the above two principles are at the heart of your ideals, then I see no problem. Your goals are perfectly noble and something that I agree that we should all strive for in a civilized society. The real problem is that conflict theory, as it exists in its current forms, is so all-encompassing that it classifies everything from genocide to mild verbal disagreements as 'harm and oppression'. This in turn causes the adherents to develop an egocentric victimhood complex that ultimately leads to a culture of 'spoiled children in 20-something skin' (my words) whom naively think that they can achieve happiness by demanding that the entire world change to suit their own egocentric ideals. Which, again, is impossible due to the limitations of human psychology. I guess what I am trying to say is that: conflict theory and all of its modern incarnations - feminism, marxism, postmodernism, microaggressions, queer theory, critical theory - fail to draw a clear line between 'righteous indignation', and just being an unpleasant, ungrateful, and spoiled little brat. If you take conflict theory - the idea that everything is power - and teach it to a bunch of college/university undergraduates, and fail to draw a clear line between "when power is good" and "when power is bad", they're going to end up forming their own opinions and "oppressed vs oppressor" worldviews based solely on their own subjective ideas about what is "good" and what is "bad". Couple that with the rise of racial, cultural, socioeconomic, and political tensions and an intensifying culture war, and lo and behold, you have a recipe for chaos.
You misunderstand the nature of conflict theory: it does not " *fail* to draw a clear line" it holds as its primary tenant that there *is no line.* Marxist conflict theory holds that there is no point beyond which something is worth righteous indignation and below which it's no big deal and should be graciously ignored or tolerated. Marxism calls for a complete overthrow of every single aspect of human life because when power is everything, everything, social institutions, interpersonal relationships, *everything* even language itself, are tools which are used either to accumulate and wield power, or to deconstruct power structures. Marxists are quite literally people who want to watch the world burn because they think we can only be equal when we are all sitting in the ashes of civilization. Dishonest or deluded Marxist will try to convince you that a glorious utopia will magically spring, phoenix-like, from the ashes of civilization; honest Marxists are almost impossible to find but if you can pin one to the (metaphorical) wall in a debate and extract an answer they will admit that we'd all live in abject misery and poverty should their nihilistic goal was achieved, but that's okay because there is no god, life has no meaning, and all life and motion in the universe will ultimately end in cold dark emptiness.
Nicolas LG . Because it is safe to express your innate feminity among conservative people. Radical feminism, part of the radical left, treats you like a turncoat or oppressed. That is how I experience(d) this anyway.
@@11kravitzn She would tell you where to stuff that loathsome slander, after charitably explaining to you how you came to be warped enough to concoct it in the first place. It would all be part of helping you overcome your pitiable victimization at the hands of your far-left masters. I'm less sympathetic myself, and inclined to simply counsel a visit to the rope store.
I enjoyed this, thank you. The overly-busy PowerPoint was a distraction, though - and when you use slides with quotes on them, the audience have to choose between listening and reading. It's impossible to do both properly. Keep up the good work. 👍
Seems to me that instead of saying: "This is how the world is, I know everything!" She's saying: "Conflict Theory isn't all encompassing, it's more complicated than that"
Friedman received the Nobel Prize for Economics after looting, i.e., privatizing South America. Chile’s economy contracted by 15% and unemployment, which stood at 3% under Allende, soared to 20% and stayed at that level for years. Surveying the misery he inflicted on the people of Chile, Friedman opined, “My only concern is that they push it long enough and hard enough.“ Over the next three years, Milton Friedman would spread the gospel of predatory Chicago School economics to Brazil, Uruguay, and Argentina. In each of these countries, the Friedmanite economic system was put in place by the crudest form of state power, namely, a military backed coup d’état, invariably supported by the CIA. In granting Friedman this honor, the Nobel Prize Committee ignored not only the misery which his policies had brought about in Chile; it ignored the assassinations of those who disagreed with the implementation of those policies, although, almost as an afterthought, it awarded the next year’s Nobel Peace Prize to Amnesty International for exposing the human rights abuses in Chile that was the necessary corollary of enforcing Friedman’s economic regime.
UNTIL THE 60s we all were lefties until we met the real world. That ended when kids were given too much power to eradicate boundaries. Started with high schools allowing themselves to be bullied out of dress codes, disallowing PDA, smoking, sassing teachers, truancy, open campuses, fighting, drugs, sex all soon followed. I saw a huge change between my HS graduation in ‘66 to a visit back a mere 2 years later. The hippies were most visible part of it, fueled by the anger at the VietNam War and copious drug use. I think it was because the 50s saw the rise of middle class wealth, suburbs, the introduction of unlimited credit (first credit card? DINER’s Club in 1953) allowing to live beyond means. VietNam marked first time vets were spit on as they came home and Hollywood aligning with the communists. A full throated discussion might have stopped this decline, but conflict is required to fuel elections. TV, which engaged emotions in a whole new way, began the escalation culminating in internet Big Tech censorship. The frog in the pot anecdote does not focus on WHO is turning up the heat a degree at a time, or WHY.
In my view, she wouldn't have gotten here without reading Orwell's essays. 18:30 Here's evidence she keeps getting better because she keeps re-reading him.
This gal is so lucid in her describing of sociopolitical interactive mechanisms that its just crazy. :-) Fives stars. Forward this to anyone you know with an attention span of more than 5 seconds.
Great talk! Thanks! Here's how I see it,however.You take a 'mistake theorist' and a 'conflict theorist' and put them in a burning building. The 'mistake theorist' will want to sit down and talk about the burning building.The 'conflict theorist' will get the hell out of that building. We can talk about things until the end of time.It's time to act.It's time for anarchy,not letting ourselves be lulled to sleep by the soothing voice of the Power Elite. And if you don't think the world is made up of oppressors and the oppressed then it's you, my dear who has not read enough or have enough information . Great talk,thanks!
Motivated or Compromised in some way: Intellectually, Morally (bear in mind that for a Positive Rationalist there is no basis in "rational" thought), Financially, Nepotism or Sponsorship etc, etc..
I'm embarrassed by how late in the day i am re having watched and listened to Claire. Her talk was very nicely synoptic and cogent in clarifying the very current dichotomy of tertiary thought and practices and clearly enunciating the tautology of 'far left' "critical theory".
I think the resistance to point out malevolence in the perpetrators of this group think is unwise. Most of the students and other followers may come to this way of thinking innocently but those teaching are likely to be unhappy, hate filled individuals who rage against reality itself. Punishing people considered normal ("Normies") is their main objective.
Marx was and remains a giant of economic thought, who understood the value for workers when they maintain mutual control over the surplus-value of their labor, separate from their individual thoughts and expressions. Bolshevism was the furnace that forged the Soviet State. A state having a corporate structure, it's foundation cast in ideological purity. An incendiary ideology that suffocated any individual thoughts and expressions within the population through propaganda, intimidation and other means. When any elite, corporate, bureaucratic, religious, academic and so forth, thinks for us, compels our speech, we will have begun a perilous journey, inevitably descending into a neo-postmodern and/or neo-fascist inferno.
Can we have her presentation - mabye in PDF format? My scientific side felt (oh, no, feelings... ) like taking a bath after years of strugling knee deep in mud.
My first thought after seeing someone (James Lindsay, in the case) describe what "critical" means in the view of the proponents of this - now prevalent - theory is "well, one must only apply critical theory onto critical theory itself to see where the power is". She is my spokeswoman (as well as model figure). I do not flatter myself as to aspire to deserve someone like that for I do not have intellectual prowess or something to offer that she doesn't already have so my mind flat out skipped the adoration and drooling male crush on her. As Peterson used to say, she is the goal towards which we aim, never able to achieve but to aim and pursue nonetheless for each step towards it is a betterment from your person as before.
Fantastic discussion, lovely and brilliant woman. This video needs far more views and likes. On another note, clearly those chairs are horrible. The arms are too low and there's no real back support. The poor lady could not get comfortable.
William Paquet ...who the heck would design something anti-human-anatomy like that !?!!? Maybe some postmodern-anatomy-is-just-a-social-construct- and-reality-doesn't-exist- and comfort-is-a-white-patriarchal-tool-of-oppression- designer-graduate from that gender-aware-social-equity-design-studies-course...
40:26 "Postmodernism means all truth is socially constructed. " Grumble though this is an aspect of some post modernism I don't think it's fair. A more modest viewpoint says that the models of the world that people build probably are provisional and miss out features and often do so in predictable ways that align with self-interest and that considering this effect can yield better understandings of reality. I think of the more moderate forms of postmodern as heuristics for what you might be wrong about people's models of the world.
As I understand, Marx said the the bourgeoisie helps create the proletariat, and so naturally you have one group exploiting another. I suppose that legislation to improve working conditions would be an example of "mistake theory," whereas organizing a strike would be an example of "conflict theory."
So there are Mistake Theorists (Rationalists) and Conflict theorists (Marxists). I would say intensions of the first are honest and the latter deceptive.
You've got to wonder what might happen if the universities were to start treating students as consumers instead of education seekers. Would the student/consumer demands start driving content in classrooms? Would the universities start stocking the shelves with products that serve to satisfy the demand, rather than meet the educational needs of the population? Seems like this process preceded the shift toward critical theory, providing the well irrigated and enriched soil in which it could grow and spread.
23:40 Jesus Christ! First came the vegans saying we can't eat meat. Are we going to be told we can't eat plants, either? So what are we to do then, become breath-air-eans?
No, there a plans afoot for you to dine on oppressors. One university press is coming out with a cookbook titled "Pan-Frying for Equity: Marxist Feminist Perspectives on How to Serve Penis and Testicles"
The those in the cloistered halls of Academia today are different from their pre-enlightenment priestly antecedents only in the size of their audience and the names of their gods.
John Way Given the very good work coming out of the CIS, the only financial issue is how to get the Centre more money to fund further efforts. Rinehart money would be a start - she seems to be able to afford it.
"What Is Marx's 'Conflict Theory' Doing to Our Politics?" Um, explaining it? This doesn't mean that modern left-wing politics explains anything. You can't substitute "black people" or "women" for "the international proletariat" and still call it Marxism.
Nonsense. Just ask any Marxist and it'll tell you Marxism can explain everything down to a a crack in a teacup, then whip out a thick anthology from a no-name university press to prove it. "Chips and Cracks in Post-Colonial Beverage Serving Theory: A Feminist Perspective" it might be called.
One year later, I have a more nuanced response. I find Claire Lehmann a much better critic of the amalgam of Marxism and modern leftism than blokes like Jordan Peterson and James Lindsay. Partly it's because of her style - it's not too polished.
@@desnebula5699 Very well: The hallmarks of an effective plan will be almost the same as those of the plan the left itself formulated to get us here in the first place: Organization, unity, absolute lack of respect or sympathy for the opponent, and sheer inexhaustible persistence. It's the unity and persistence that most make it work. Besides that we must only leave out their dishonesty and various other forms of unscrupulousness. It should only take a few decades to succeed.
If you wear an "It's OK To Be White" t-shirt and no one reacts... go home and put it away. The fact that you might be verbally or physically assaulted is the reason to wear it. It highlights to those silent moderates that it's much worse than they think and they need to say something as well. I'm horrified and saddened that such an innocuous statement could cause a fuss. That's how bad things have gotten.
A Candace Owens show produced recently had a female lawyer explain that the huge courage in the face of almost certain death of the troops sent to storm the beaches in Normandy during the WW2 battles there would never happen with the levels of synthetic estrogen flowing in everybody's bodies due to these high levels being deemed "safe" and thereby could be elevated further over the decades. The lawyer claimed that testosterone levels, already pretty low, were measured in 1987, and then later in 2007 and found to have declined a great deal. If you've ever wondered why it was that there was gender fluidity or gender dysphoria, this is likely why. The human fetus gestating in the womb is subject to all of these hormone imbalances and this has profound effects on the resulting offspring. Girly men and women who cower against imposed foolishness. Testosterone governs libido in both men and women. If there is a birth rate crisis in Western civilized countries, the brain is heavily influenced by these biological catalytic agents so as to influence thinking, decision making, and thereby behavior. The resistance or reluctance to oppose these mind virus ideological subversive movements mentioned in the video is reduced or eliminated by the very negative influences of hormone imbalances caused by chemical additives to products. Perhaps plastic products such as plumbing pipes, food containers, pesticides, and cash register printer paper made with bpa that through only skin contact does alter testosterone levels in both males and females. Water fluoridation is also said to lower fertility and significantly lower IQ of children subjected to it. These likely all make people the polar opposite than hyper masculine to be hyper feminine. Instead of being stead fast in resolve against stupid or terrible things, there is fear and cowering and compromise rather than conflict and opposition and victory.
33:00 I think this misrepresents Haidt a little. I don't think he's concerned about the shutting down of debate so much as the importance of the disinformation that comes with viewpoint diversity.
Have noticed that the marmalade which I have enjoyed since childhood has had the friendly golly removed from the label .Cancel culture? It has also gone up in price.illegal immigrants?
The real issue is that nonwhites, women etc are beaten and worse every day. To not address the systemic causes for these injustices, that is to not tolerate systemic intolerance, only benefits those not effected. Thus the increased demand to to not accept the status quo. More details here >> Just as liberals serve to lull moderates into swallowing the increasingly toxic excesses of neoliberal / neocon assaults on we the people and planet, so do Mistake Theorists deny taking action to resolve known causes of systemic injustices. Arguing that injustices needs to be “studied more” and claiming that Conflict Theorists are “ignorant” reveals Mistake Theorists’ role to accept status quo norms and structures designed and maintained by elites and those who support elites’ Divide to Conquer and other anti-democratic norms to block social models more committed to human and environmental health. THAT’s the dominant orthodoxy and how it functions. Marx’s critique of capitalism has been relevant since first publication. Throughout elites and their patsies have feared Marx’s observations and have designed rebuttals intended to marginalize / belittle critique, of which this lecture is yet another example. Sure there are some wacky illiberal leftists, but they are a tiny if vocal minority and to use them as a foil to suppress calls for structural changes to uproot injustices, that's both illegitimate an example of playing patsy to elites' Divide to Conquer tropes. Related link >> Cultural Marxism: created by Nazis, pushed by Steve Bannon et al th-cam.com/video/liT7e5M6XfY/w-d-xo.html
@@Brianbeesandbikes I think Marxism attracts the worst people and brings out the worst in them far more egregiously than any other ideology. I'd rather deal with ISIS.
@@dixonpinfold2582 Re "I think Marxism attracts the worst people and brings out the worst in them far more egregiously than any other ideology. I'd rather deal with ISIS." Is your sentiment based on personal experience or reading? Below are a few egs of what socialism / communism has done: 1. Gutted Hitler's army on the eastern front. USA Aids Nazi Fascists / crush leftists … countercurrents.org/2017/08/09/27-million-died-in-russia-because-wall-street-built-up-hitlers-wehrmacht-to-knock-out-soviet-union 2. In USA pivotal in ending child labor, enacting housing, food purity, unions, the right to vote, social security and banking protections. Progressive Era Accomplishments www-personal.umd.umich.edu/~ppennock/Progressive%20Reforms.htm 3. The inspiration for these social programs: Venezuela's Community Councils www.counterpunch.org/2016/12/30/venezuelas-communal-movement Nicaragua: Why we attack them / how they are creating new social models html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/11830601 As far as ISIS goes, it would not exist wo u$a's "help" bc u$a needs enemies to justify its war machine and perpetual imperialism of other nations. 1. West Made ISIS thediplomat.com/2014/08/iran-didnt-create-isis-we-did/ 2. Iran offered and joined u$a’s fight against al Qaeda then u$a flipped th-cam.com/video/k8Zb8615ib0/w-d-xo.html 3. US let ISIS grow (and kill) to destabilize Syria's Assad. Iran stopped it. th-cam.com/video/lKr4ywECOLU/w-d-xo.html 4. CIA Overthrew Iran's Democracy In 4 Days www.npr.org/2019/01/31/690363402/how-the-cia-overthrew-irans-democracy-in-four-days
Fact: in Spring 2015 the French ministry of health reported 38.6% of newborns in France in 2015 were tested for sickle-cell anemia. They were tested only if both parents' ancestry was from Africa, West Indies or southern India. Replacement of the native population is happening in Western Europe, and you are next, Australia. Race/ethnic competition was not a focus of 18-19th century liberalism. Mill and Jefferson favored separate nation states for ethnic groups.
I'ts EU history of colonialism that has brought this on. Can't have your cake for 100s of years then refuse to be humane about the inevitable clean up ....
I've watched a lot of Centre for Independent Studies talks and you NEED TO BALANCE YOUR AUDIO!!!!! You can hear Claire, but moderator and questioner were all over the auditory map. PLEASE.....
Sociological Theory 101. Was there anything in this lecture that was new or compelling? Hmmmm. Anyone who's been to uni knows how and why particular facts about the social world are related and how they can be used.
Hello, CIS. Forget about making about a libertarian out of Claire Lehmann. She's using you more than you're using her. But I can see why you'd go to the trouble.
A civilisation once existed upon the *planet mars* Worth baring in mind something not eagerly mentioned! The *Cuneiform inscriptions* (Tablets) inwhich the bible originated from, may have been disclosing the time line of the events of the planet mar's histor: The events told as a history lesson of historical seismic events for any galactic, alien, present or future species to recognise, acknowledge, learn and know of the marshan civilisations existence and terrible demise and fateful ending...?
I agree on many of your points against conflict theory and was excited to learn more about mistake theory, until I realized it has a huge fundamental flaw that sharply negates its legitimacy.. How can you dismiss emotion and promote discarding empathy when you are trying to create a human social theory? I do not condone excessive emotion, nor do I think anger or other negative emotions should be attempted to be used as driving forces of social change, but I do see emotion as natural. Promoting the attempt to block out empathy and saying that empathy and emotion are inherently bad is pretty absurd. If nothing else, the level of emotion one displays can be used to determine how deeply affected by the issue a person is- the more emotion and empathy being displayed by someone, the more I think they're exposed to or effected by the issue as an individual. I don't think you really understand what empathy is, to just discourage it like that. Empathy is not sympathy- it is what we automatically use to try and understand other people in different situations. Empathy and emotion are natural and so is anger, and the anger affecting individuals in social causes is often just, and we should not be intolerant of it but accepting of it. However, we should try to make sure their anger and emotion doesn't skew their perspective or take away from the cause they're arguing for. And of course we should encourage critical and objective thinking as well as educating people to expose them to other perspectives.
I think it's Bloom's idea is more about acting on compassion rather than empathy. So it's not as callus as she makes it sound. Sam Harris has a good talk about it with Bloom.
@@godfreytomlinson2282 I'll check it out. Hearing her downplay the importance of empathy and emotion in a sociological theory with no context really just sounded so absurd.
Unfortunately she has very little to say of any real value, over simplifying two different trains of thought into something that they just aren't. Suiting her own narrative is all she is really doing.
What up with that woman under the car muscling the transaxle! Doesn't the shop know that it is against insurance regulations to have customers in the shop floor! Especially messing with the dam car as if she is going to somehow fix it!
You are attractive but we don't care about this nonsense. It will soon leave the scene. Get yourself a good solid business and off you go.Get out of academics.
Your critique of "Critical Theory" applies to the 1st Generation (Herbert Marcuse, Theodor Adorno, Max Horkheimer, Walter Benjamin, and Erich Fromm). Many (if not most) North American Academics ascribe to this (particularly Marcuse's version). There is a 2nd generation that seems to get ignored (Jurgen Habermas in particular). In Habermas' work, critical theory transcended its theoretical roots in German idealism and progressed closer to American pragmatism. Critical Theory has grown but not all Critical Theory Enthusiast have grown beyond the 1950's/60's version of it. Don't make such a boogy man out of Post-Modern Neo-Marxism. Marcuse is dead as are Foucault and Derrida. Many of their aged fans are slow to give them up and move on. =)
This is a straw man. Why not quote from actual Marxists? Marx/Engels himself? Why not examine the claims actually made about conflict and the arguments and evidence for them? This is not someone who wants to get at the truth, but rather just justify to themselves what they want to believe.
Within 8 minutes, you started feel your worldview being challenged; thus you decided that she just had to be wrong and, ironically but not surprisingly, made her arguments into straw men yourself.
Although they might have been introduced to the idea of oppression or the patriarchy (the argument being that these are influenced by a Marxist analysis). Have a look at for example everydaydayfeminism. You can quickly find pages that talk about reparations.
Claire Lehmann is a gift to this world. Thank you Claire for your continued work and for founding Quillette.
This is the first time in my life, at age 61, and being quite a reader, that I have heard of “ mistake theory“ versus “conflict theory.“ Claire does an excellent job contrasting the two.
She first started speaking and introduced the phrase, “mistake theory,” I Said to myself while washing dishes, “I’m not sure what this mistake theory is yet but I believe that society is full of mistakes that need to be fixed.“
And after hearing her presentation, I was reaffirmed as a bonafide “Mistake theory“ disciple.
I pity the believers in “Conflict theory.”
Wow, ty, I'm learning so much. I use to be on the left. I was push out/forced out over freespeech and personal responsibility.
Welcome!
@Roos Sweli I say it'd be kinder if you did. Please remain open to it.
Bird Byod: That's a path many intelligent and intrinsically fair-minded people have trodden. Yes, that includes me as well.
Much of the left has washed itself down the plug hole leaving us traditional socialists high and dry.
same
What an elegant speaker she is 🙏
Simple answer don’t let yourself be bullied, don’t be a bully and don’t keep quiet when someone else is being bullied. Criticisms are welcome and help understanding.
Claire is great! Love Quillette
Yeah, this lady is doing very important work. And she's doing it brilliantly.
CIS: PLEASE FIX YOUR CHRONIC AUDIO PROBLEMS. Everything from going live with nearly depleted wireless microphone batteries to terrible monitoring and control of recording levels among panel members to apparently no understanding of compression/limiting and gating. Pro Tip: People speak at different volumes and it is your job to make sure that (a) the panel member voices are similar in the recording and that (b) the main recording level is not at -20 dB
I'm reluctant to moan about the audio as they offer their excellent content for free, but damn you guys. Get this very straightforward matter sorted. It's been a problem for quite a while now.
physics dept. down the hall.
This is unfortunately a problem of a broadcast medium with low barrier to entry - anyone can post stuff on the net. Which is great, but you end up with this sort of problem - a pet peeve of mine as well. Same with video editing where all sorts of "tricks" are used to getting around the shortcomings of amateur video capture, which somehow then go on to be adopted as a quirk of the YT platform.
6:16 lol I’ve literally yet to see a female car mechanic. I’m sure there are some and if I’ve missed them it’s because they’re so rare so I don’t expect it. Which means I am human (pattern recognizing), not misogynistic.
misogyny has nothing to do w patterns ... only about hating women based on gender ... you're in the clear sounds like
I have one on my calender.
Not wanting to troll.. Have you never heard of Rosie the Riveter? Although not a mechanic but anyway
@D' Essay It does look like the age of the US is coming to an end, and we're making a transition towards the age of China. Soaring debt due to unsustainable economic practises (kicked off in the 70s), growing wealth gap, civil unrest, political polarization, increasingly struggling youth with narrowing opportunities, foreign interference in elections and an incompetent president, the US is indeed drilling quite the hole for itself.
Had a filter on my car changed by a female mechanic last time. She was a highly amusing character - we chatted while she did it. Was I impressed? No more than I would have been with any mechanic who had a good sense of humour. Was I secretly delighted to have met someone who was happy to break the mould. of course - live the life you want; and not the life anyone else tells you to live.
I've definitely found this prevalent in hard science societies as well. Especially in several NASA research communities. It's very unfortunate that I'm discriminated against simply for having a moderate-conservative point of view, and being somewhat brave enough to speak to others on social media when I disagree. Although I feel no non-progressive is safe if they're pro-life right now. We have a new lynching mob, and they're more extreme than ever with the new laws in the south.
It’s not just in the humanities. It’s in (in the UK) what’s called ‘Core Studies’, which is a compulsory supplemental extra-curricular course component that feeds into your final exam scores.
She just performed a postmortem on my experience in graduate school in family counseling. My time as a graduate student concluded with me arguing with the program staff over whether or not a person has the ability to summon a fireball from the atmosphere. That's when I was informed that science is a privileged perspective, that I'm a racist, and that I'm not a good fit for that program. Anyway, good luck with the mental health industry once they purge everybody who favors objectivity over superstition.
Really good interview and talk. Smart true and painful for sycophants of identity politics..
I just went through a US university and met a Chemistry PhD Candidate doing a dissertation on Queer Chemistry. Zeen lamented that outside the academy zeen was not taken seriously! I kidz you not!
There are for sure some wacky fringe things going on but ... here's the bigger view >> Just as liberals serve to lull moderates into swallowing the increasingly toxic excesses of neoliberal / neocon assaults on we the people and planet, so do Mistake Theorists, by denying taking action to resolve the systemic causes of injustices. Arguing injustices needs to be “studied more” and claiming that Conflict Theorists are “ignorant” reveals Mistake Theorists’ mistake. Status quo norms and structures were designed and are maintained by elites and those who support elites’ Divide to Conquer and other anti-democratic norms to block more egalitarian social models. THAT’s the dominant orthodoxy.
Marx’s critique of capitalism has been relevant since first publication. Throughout elites and their patsies have feared Marx’s observations and have designed rebuttals intended to marginalize / belittle critique, of which this lecture is yet another example. Sure there are some wacky illiberal leftists, but they are a tiny if vocal minority and to use them as a foil to suppress calls for structural changes to uproot injustices, that's both illegitimate an example of playing patsy to elites' Divide to Conquer tropes.
Related link >> Cultural Marxism: created by Nazis, pushed by Steve Bannon et al th-cam.com/video/liT7e5M6XfY/w-d-xo.html
@@Brianbeesandbikes Brian, you wrote a lot while using standard buzzwords of leftists. You also participate in anti-fascism marches. Good grief man.
Cultural marxism wasn't pushed by Bannon (love how you try to link Nazism to Bannon). Wolff never successfully rebuked Peterson (seems like Wolff has some weird fascination with Peterson).
>but they are a tiny if vocal minority
American academia.
Tv/film industry.
Publishing.
Social media/Big Tech.
They say otherwise.
I’ve followed Quillette, thanks to Dr. Peterson. Great talk. 👍
“Purity spiral”....What a great name. This should be everywhere!
Such a natural grace to her well articulated views. Are opinions of free speech are in line. Stay Strong CLAIRE.
The problem with conflict theory is that it is so all-encompassing, to the point that it can even be extended to minor verbal disagreements over purely trivial matters (i.e. if two or more people are expressing views or opinions that the other disagrees with, they are competing for power and trying to assert dominance over the other's own power and/or status).
This is not necessarily a bad thing, since conflict theory - in principle - is perfectly fine when used to examine power structures from a purely descriptive standpoint.
The problem comes from the fact that to most of today's young people - spoiled kids in particular - the words "power", "authority", and "hierarchy" carry negative connotations, as they seem to imply oppression and the silencing of others. And there's an obvious danger to this line of thinking: it paints everything that one dislikes or disagrees with as "oppression" - something evil and oppressive that must be destroyed in order for there to be peace. In other words, "there will never be peace until everything that I personally find 'harmful' or 'oppressive' has been eradicated. Thus, the entire world should change to suit ME!"
But here's the thing: a world without harm ("oppression") is impossible due to the limitations of human psychology. Like any other organism, our species evolved to do one thing and one thing only - survive and pass on our genes. And what do you have to do in order to survive and pass on your genes?
You have to be wary of threats. You have to make sure that there is no harm or danger or otherwise negative stimuli that could possibly harm you or your offspring. This need to be wary of threats has given us what psychologists call the "negativity bias" - we focus more on the negative than the positive, regardless of how positive things are 'in the big picture'.
This is because all stimuli enters our brain through the thalamus, which classifies it as either "positive", "negative", or "neutral", and then sends it en route to our frontal cortex, which then determines how we should react to said stimuli. The catch however, is that our brains prioritize negative and neutral stimuli over positive stimuli. The amygdala, which is basically a "shortcut" from the thalamus to the frontal cortex, only allows neutral and/or negative stimuli to pass through (i.e. threats).
This makes sense from an evolutionary perspective - if you're living in the wild, the consequences of NOT responding to negative stimuli (such as a danger) can be far more consequential and thus threatening to one's survival than the consequences of NOT responding to positive stimuli (such as an opportunity). This is why we tend to dwell on the negative despite us having the freedom to enjoy life in what is undoubtedly the most peaceful and prosperous era in all of human history; we're ungrateful for what we have because our species evolved to focus on the negative so that we can be wary of danger and keep away from anything that could possibly decrease our chances of survival.
Thus, there is a fundamental paradox to human nature: we want to be safe from negative stimuli (i.e. harm/danger/threats/"oppression"), but our minds evolved to constantly be on the lookout for things to feel threatened by.
And this leads me to another important point. The negativity bias means that - with few exceptions - WE CANNOT ACHIEVE HAPPINESS BY TRYING TO CHANGE THE WORLD AROUND US. No matter how good things get, no matter how much the world improves, the 'hedonic treadmill' will only ensure that our minds will default to our original, unhappy state within a very short time.
This has been a fundamental teaching of all the major religions around the world for thousands of years - Buddhists are encouraged to accept the fact that life is difficult and to be content with one's suffering. Christianity teaches more or less the same thing - be grateful for everything that God has given you and delight in your struggles, for they will ultimately make you stronger and allow you to live a more fulfilling life.
This philosophy extends into other cultures as well, and has been adopted by the likes of Jordan Peterson and Jonathan Haidt. As Peterson put it: "You can't fix the world, but you can fix yourself". In fact, it was Friedrich Nietzsche who said that "what doesn't kill us makes us stronger". Those are, of course, broad generalizations - there are diseases and health conditions that can seriously weaken you - but for the most part, it's true. Nassim Taleb says pretty much the exact same thing in his book "Antifragile", and Jonathan Haidt addresses it in Chapter 7 of his first book, "The Happiness Hypothesis".
Now, I am not denying that there are injustices in the world that we should try to ameliorate. Rape, Torture, Genocide, Unlawful Arrests, etc. are all serious problems that we should strive (and continue striving) to address, but we have to realize that there is a limit to how much we can improve our imperfect world and make our lives better in the process. We also have to remember that ONE CANNOT BE TRULY HAPPY UNLESS THEY ARE GRATEFUL FOR EVERYTHING THAT IS GOOD IN LIFE. True happiness comes from appreciation for what one has. If you're going to waste your time disproportionately focusing on what is "wrong" with the world, or complaining about things that you don't like, then you are destined for a life of bitter resentment and misery.
Does that sound familiar? It should, because it's the attitude of a spoiled 5-year-old. Children, when they first come into the world, lack the experience required to accept and tolerate the adversities of life. They have not yet learned how to overcome hardship, nor how to be grateful for what they have, nor have they come to accept the fact that things do not always go the way that they would prefer them to.
These are things that any responsible parent understands and tries to instil in their children. A parent who gives their child everything that the child asks for will only end up spoiling them by creating the illusion that the world exists to serve THEM, and if you go into "the real world" expecting everything to change to suit YOUR ideals, then you're destined for a life of misery. Besides, giving a child everything that they ask for will not even make them happy in the short term, because you can't be grateful if everything gets handed to you. This is why nobody every thinks of such a spoiled child as being happy, much less polite.
Responsible parents on the other hand, know better than to just give their child everything that the child asks for. Responsible parents instead raise their children to recognize the fact that life is difficult and that you don't always get what you want, and certainly not without some kind of personal investment of hardship. This is because a responsible parent understands that life, by in large, is about adaptation. You cannot survive in this world if you refuse to adapt and learn to overcome adversity.
And that brings us back around to conflict theory and all of its manifestations. Conflict theory - in its extreme form - teaches people to view everything that they dislike as "power and oppression". It is the worldview of a spoiled 5-year-old who expects the entire world to change in order to suit THEIR ideals and MAKE them happy, which is a relatively futile endeavour because, as detailed above, a world without hardship/suffering/"oppression" is psychologically impossible. Viewing everything through a lens of conflict theory (or "the oppressor and the oppressed") is completely maladaptive because it means BLAMING ALL OF YOUR PROBLEMS ON THE WORLD, rather than admitting one's own faults and stopping to ask oneself "how can I change myself so that I can be a better person?"
If conflict theory and all of its incarnations were truly committed to fighting actual injustices in the world - women being sold into sexual slavery, or being discriminated against just because they are women - then everything would be fine. In fact, a lot of good actually HAS come out of them for that very reason. I firmly believe that everyone should be TREATED fairly (proportionally, socially, legally, or otherwise), and that "you should not do onto others what you would not have them do onto you". If you consider yourself a feminist, activist, socialist, etc., and the above two principles are at the heart of your ideals, then I see no problem. Your goals are perfectly noble and something that I agree that we should all strive for in a civilized society.
The real problem is that conflict theory, as it exists in its current forms, is so all-encompassing that it classifies everything from genocide to mild verbal disagreements as 'harm and oppression'. This in turn causes the adherents to develop an egocentric victimhood complex that ultimately leads to a culture of 'spoiled children in 20-something skin' (my words) whom naively think that they can achieve happiness by demanding that the entire world change to suit their own egocentric ideals.
Which, again, is impossible due to the limitations of human psychology.
I guess what I am trying to say is that: conflict theory and all of its modern incarnations - feminism, marxism, postmodernism, microaggressions, queer theory, critical theory - fail to draw a clear line between 'righteous indignation', and just being an unpleasant, ungrateful, and spoiled little brat. If you take conflict theory - the idea that everything is power - and teach it to a bunch of college/university undergraduates, and fail to draw a clear line between "when power is good" and "when power is bad", they're going to end up forming their own opinions and "oppressed vs oppressor" worldviews based solely on their own subjective ideas about what is "good" and what is "bad". Couple that with the rise of racial, cultural, socioeconomic, and political tensions and an intensifying culture war, and lo and behold, you have a recipe for chaos.
You misunderstand the nature of conflict theory: it does not " *fail* to draw a clear line" it holds as its primary tenant that there *is no line.* Marxist conflict theory holds that there is no point beyond which something is worth righteous indignation and below which it's no big deal and should be graciously ignored or tolerated. Marxism calls for a complete overthrow of every single aspect of human life because when power is everything, everything, social institutions, interpersonal relationships, *everything* even language itself, are tools which are used either to accumulate and wield power, or to deconstruct power structures. Marxists are quite literally people who want to watch the world burn because they think we can only be equal when we are all sitting in the ashes of civilization. Dishonest or deluded Marxist will try to convince you that a glorious utopia will magically spring, phoenix-like, from the ashes of civilization; honest Marxists are almost impossible to find but if you can pin one to the (metaphorical) wall in a debate and extract an answer they will admit that we'd all live in abject misery and poverty should their nihilistic goal was achieved, but that's okay because there is no god, life has no meaning, and all life and motion in the universe will ultimately end in cold dark emptiness.
¡¡Very well put!! Good, easy to understand, explanations; and very good writing.
nobodys reading your bible
Fantastic comment :)
Why are all conservative women so beautiful?
because they don't spend their lives constantly hating people that think for themselves..
Nicolas LG . Because it is safe to express your innate feminity among conservative people. Radical feminism, part of the radical left, treats you like a turncoat or oppressed. That is how I experience(d) this anyway.
deception helps mesmerize the audience. this is far from being a science.
Because the misogynists on the right like their eye candy, and would never give anyone not deemed beautiful enough a public platform.
@@11kravitzn She would tell you where to stuff that loathsome slander, after charitably explaining to you how you came to be warped enough to concoct it in the first place. It would all be part of helping you overcome your pitiable victimization at the hands of your far-left masters.
I'm less sympathetic myself, and inclined to simply counsel a visit to the rope store.
This woman is incredible in every way. Mr Claire is a lucky man 😎
I enjoyed this, thank you. The overly-busy PowerPoint was a distraction, though - and when you use slides with quotes on them, the audience have to choose between listening and reading. It's impossible to do both properly. Keep up the good work. 👍
Seems to me that instead of saying:
"This is how the world is, I know everything!"
She's saying:
"Conflict Theory isn't all encompassing, it's more complicated than that"
how do moderates influence the debate when whenever they speak up they get labeled bigots deplatformed and often end up loosing their jobs.
They can't..liberals are going to hell, permanently, soon..
Friedman received the Nobel Prize for Economics after looting, i.e., privatizing South America.
Chile’s economy contracted by 15% and unemployment, which stood at 3% under Allende, soared to 20% and stayed at that level for years. Surveying the misery he inflicted on the people of Chile, Friedman opined, “My only concern is that they push it long enough and hard enough.“
Over the next three years, Milton Friedman would spread the gospel of predatory Chicago School economics to Brazil, Uruguay, and Argentina. In each of these countries, the Friedmanite economic system was put in place by the crudest form of state power, namely, a military backed coup d’état, invariably supported by the CIA.
In granting Friedman this honor, the Nobel Prize Committee ignored not only the misery which his policies had brought about in Chile; it ignored the assassinations of those who disagreed with the implementation of those policies, although, almost as an afterthought, it awarded the next year’s Nobel Peace Prize to Amnesty International for exposing the human rights abuses in Chile that was the necessary corollary of enforcing Friedman’s economic regime.
Con-flict - Mis-take - Eat-cake - heart-brake... It's still rock and roll to me-e-e...!
Billy Joel rocks! Or he did, he's a bit geriatric now... 😔
"Outer space needs to be more Queer!" To boldly go where no man has gone before...one small mince for mankind...
Load up the rocket ships, the more the merrier. Prepare to launch.
Where no man has gone before? Man? MAN? Why you filthy misogynist homophobe! This is hate speech! This is assault! Police! Twitter!
UNTIL THE 60s we all were lefties until we met the real world.
That ended when kids were given too much power to eradicate boundaries.
Started with high schools allowing themselves to be bullied out of dress codes, disallowing PDA, smoking, sassing teachers, truancy, open campuses, fighting, drugs, sex all soon followed. I saw a huge change between my HS graduation in ‘66 to a visit back a mere 2 years later.
The hippies were most visible part of it, fueled by the anger at the VietNam War and copious drug use.
I think it was because the 50s saw the rise of middle class wealth, suburbs, the introduction of unlimited credit (first credit card? DINER’s Club in 1953) allowing to live beyond means.
VietNam marked first time vets were spit on as they came home and Hollywood aligning with the communists. A full throated discussion might have stopped this decline, but conflict is required to fuel elections.
TV, which engaged emotions in a whole new way, began the escalation culminating in internet Big Tech censorship.
The frog in the pot anecdote does not focus on WHO is turning up the heat a degree at a time, or WHY.
Brilliant.
Do something with your sound system. I have my volume at max just to hear the video properly.
Critical Plant Theory sounds like the name of a Prog Trance DJ
***LMAO***
I think it is! Ibiza or Hamburg, I can't remember which.
In my view, she wouldn't have gotten here without reading Orwell's essays. 18:30 Here's evidence she keeps getting better because she keeps re-reading him.
This gal is so lucid in her describing of sociopolitical interactive mechanisms that its just crazy. :-)
Fives stars.
Forward this to anyone you know with an attention span of more than 5 seconds.
now that's the username of a stupendous evolutionary bada$$
Such good stuff!
Great talk. Couple of criticisms - intro was 4 minutes, far too long. Also poor lighting, please fix. Last, lots of noise/static on the microphone.
Great talk! Thanks! Here's how I see it,however.You take a 'mistake theorist' and a 'conflict theorist' and put them in a burning building. The 'mistake theorist' will want to sit down and talk about the burning building.The 'conflict theorist' will get the hell out of that building. We can talk about things until the end of time.It's time to act.It's time for anarchy,not letting ourselves be lulled to sleep by the soothing voice of the Power Elite. And if you don't think the world is made up of oppressors and the oppressed then it's you, my dear who has not read enough or have enough information . Great talk,thanks!
I daresay Ms Lehmann had a satisfactory relationship with her father. Either that or she's not just one in a million, she's one in a billion.
wow, incredibly insightful :)
Motivated or Compromised in some way: Intellectually, Morally (bear in mind that for a Positive Rationalist there is no basis in "rational" thought), Financially, Nepotism or Sponsorship etc, etc..
I'm embarrassed by how late in the day i am re having watched and listened to Claire. Her talk was very nicely synoptic and cogent in clarifying the very current dichotomy of tertiary thought and practices and clearly enunciating the tautology of 'far left' "critical theory".
They should do a series of speeches that I can hear.
5:35 I'm definitely of the 'mistake theorist' mold.
I think the resistance to point out malevolence in the perpetrators of this group think is unwise. Most of the students and other followers may come to this way of thinking innocently but those teaching are likely to be unhappy, hate filled individuals who rage against reality itself. Punishing people considered normal ("Normies") is their main objective.
I agree. Naked human aggression is what I see in it.
Keep-up the good work ( The silent majority )
Are CIS events open to the public?
Claire Lehmann is the sexiest woman alive.
32:38 Jonathan Haidt's name in pronounced "height" not "hate".
Marx was and remains a giant of economic thought, who understood the value for workers when they maintain mutual control over the surplus-value of their labor, separate from their individual thoughts and expressions.
Bolshevism was the furnace that forged the Soviet State. A state having a corporate structure, it's foundation cast in ideological purity. An incendiary ideology that suffocated any individual thoughts and expressions within the population through propaganda, intimidation and other means.
When any elite, corporate, bureaucratic, religious, academic and so forth, thinks for us, compels our speech, we will have begun a perilous journey, inevitably descending into a neo-postmodern and/or neo-fascist inferno.
Sound level for this video is so low that parts cannot be heard.
Can we have her presentation - mabye in PDF format? My scientific side felt (oh, no, feelings... ) like taking a bath after years of strugling knee deep in mud.
My first thought after seeing someone (James Lindsay, in the case) describe what "critical" means in the view of the proponents of this - now prevalent - theory is "well, one must only apply critical theory onto critical theory itself to see where the power is". She is my spokeswoman (as well as model figure). I do not flatter myself as to aspire to deserve someone like that for I do not have intellectual prowess or something to offer that she doesn't already have so my mind flat out skipped the adoration and drooling male crush on her. As Peterson used to say, she is the goal towards which we aim, never able to achieve but to aim and pursue nonetheless for each step towards it is a betterment from your person as before.
Fantastic discussion, lovely and brilliant woman. This video needs far more views and likes. On another note, clearly those chairs are horrible. The arms are too low and there's no real back support. The poor lady could not get comfortable.
William Paquet ...who the heck would design something anti-human-anatomy like that !?!!?
Maybe some postmodern-anatomy-is-just-a-social-construct- and-reality-doesn't-exist- and comfort-is-a-white-patriarchal-tool-of-oppression- designer-graduate from that gender-aware-social-equity-design-studies-course...
Adam Smith once remarked that Capitalism requires government oversight.
Whos here in 2020!
40:26 "Postmodernism means all truth is socially constructed. "
Grumble though this is an aspect of some post modernism I don't think it's fair. A more modest viewpoint says that the models of the world that people build probably are provisional and miss out features and often do so in predictable ways that align with self-interest and that considering this effect can yield better understandings of reality.
I think of the more moderate forms of postmodern as heuristics for what you might be wrong about people's models of the world.
Postmodernism has absolutely nothing to do with reality. Postmodernism is a socially constructed lie.
As I understand, Marx said the the bourgeoisie helps create the proletariat, and so naturally you have one group exploiting another. I suppose that legislation to improve working conditions would be an example of "mistake theory," whereas organizing a strike would be an example of "conflict theory."
So there are Mistake Theorists (Rationalists) and Conflict theorists (Marxists). I would say intensions of the first are honest and the latter deceptive.
You've got to wonder what might happen if the universities were to start treating students as consumers instead of education seekers. Would the student/consumer demands start driving content in classrooms? Would the universities start stocking the shelves with products that serve to satisfy the demand, rather than meet the educational needs of the population? Seems like this process preceded the shift toward critical theory, providing the well irrigated and enriched soil in which it could grow and spread.
23:40 Jesus Christ! First came the vegans saying we can't eat meat. Are we going to be told we can't eat plants, either? So what are we to do then, become breath-air-eans?
No, there a plans afoot for you to dine on oppressors. One university press is coming out with a cookbook titled "Pan-Frying for Equity: Marxist Feminist Perspectives on How to Serve Penis and Testicles"
I'm in love
It quite goes without saying.
this is serious stuff I couldn't laugh of the absurdities. I fear a bit for the future young generations.
why does the dot on the 'i' directly to his right in the first two minutes keep dancing as some kind of edit artifact.
The those in the cloistered halls of Academia today are different from their pre-enlightenment priestly antecedents only in the size of their audience and the names of their gods.
Volume too low can’t hear it
The lecture is a demonstration against black and white thinking, yet it is skteching two distinct groups that have completely different world views.
Who are sponsors? It it up to 40 to 50% a yr like the ipa's gina rinehart as recently revealed during supreme court hearings?
John Way Given the very good work coming out of the CIS, the only financial issue is how to get the Centre more money to fund further efforts. Rinehart money would be a start - she seems to be able to afford it.
"What Is Marx's 'Conflict Theory' Doing to Our Politics?" Um, explaining it? This doesn't mean that modern left-wing politics explains anything. You can't substitute "black people" or "women" for "the international proletariat" and still call it Marxism.
Nonsense. Just ask any Marxist and it'll tell you Marxism can explain everything down to a a crack in a teacup, then whip out a thick anthology from a no-name university press to prove it. "Chips and Cracks in Post-Colonial Beverage Serving Theory: A Feminist Perspective" it might be called.
This idiots call marxism anything that claims conflict exists. I guess all realpolitik and Carl Schmitt are marxism!
with those substitutions, it's often called "neo-" or "cultural marxism"
One year later, I have a more nuanced response. I find Claire Lehmann a much better critic of the amalgam of Marxism and modern leftism than blokes like Jordan Peterson and James Lindsay. Partly it's because of her style - it's not too polished.
What potential solutions do we have to fix these issues?
Let them set up Marxist paradise in outer space. Sound like a plan?
@@dixonpinfold2582 a realistic plan would be nice :)
@@desnebula5699 Very well: The hallmarks of an effective plan will be almost the same as those of the plan the left itself formulated to get us here in the first place: Organization, unity, absolute lack of respect or sympathy for the opponent, and sheer inexhaustible persistence. It's the unity and persistence that most make it work.
Besides that we must only leave out their dishonesty and various other forms of unscrupulousness.
It should only take a few decades to succeed.
If you wear an "It's OK To Be White" t-shirt and no one reacts... go home and put it away. The fact that you might be verbally or physically assaulted is the reason to wear it. It highlights to those silent moderates that it's much worse than they think and they need to say something as well. I'm horrified and saddened that such an innocuous statement could cause a fuss. That's how bad things have gotten.
A Candace Owens show produced recently had a female lawyer explain that the huge courage in the face of almost certain death of the troops sent to storm the beaches in Normandy during the WW2 battles there would never happen with the levels of synthetic estrogen flowing in everybody's bodies due to these high levels being deemed "safe" and thereby could be elevated further over the decades. The lawyer claimed that testosterone levels, already pretty low, were measured in 1987, and then later in 2007 and found to have declined a great deal.
If you've ever wondered why it was that there was gender fluidity or gender dysphoria, this is likely why. The human fetus gestating in the womb is subject to all of these hormone imbalances and this has profound effects on the resulting offspring. Girly men and women who cower against imposed foolishness.
Testosterone governs libido in both men and women. If there is a birth rate crisis in Western civilized countries, the brain is heavily influenced by these biological catalytic agents so as to influence thinking, decision making, and thereby behavior.
The resistance or reluctance to oppose these mind virus ideological subversive movements mentioned in the video is reduced or eliminated by the very negative influences of hormone imbalances caused by chemical additives to products.
Perhaps plastic products such as plumbing pipes, food containers, pesticides, and cash register printer paper made with bpa that through only skin contact does alter testosterone levels in both males and females.
Water fluoridation is also said to lower fertility and significantly lower IQ of children subjected to it.
These likely all make people the polar opposite than hyper masculine to be hyper feminine. Instead of being stead fast in resolve against stupid or terrible things, there is fear and cowering and compromise rather than conflict and opposition and victory.
33:00 I think this misrepresents Haidt a little. I don't think he's concerned about the shutting down of debate so much as the importance of the disinformation that comes with viewpoint diversity.
Fire your sound technician!
WHAT???
Have noticed that the marmalade which I have enjoyed since childhood has had the friendly golly removed from the label .Cancel culture? It has also gone up in price.illegal immigrants?
Claire is stunning, the left, intolerant of intolerance, tolerance means you put up with someone, doesn't mean you accept
The real issue is that nonwhites, women etc are beaten and worse every day. To not address the systemic causes for these injustices, that is to not tolerate systemic intolerance, only benefits those not effected. Thus the increased demand to to not accept the status quo.
More details here >> Just as liberals serve to lull moderates into swallowing the increasingly toxic excesses of neoliberal / neocon assaults on we the people and planet, so do Mistake Theorists deny taking action to resolve known causes of systemic injustices. Arguing that injustices needs to be “studied more” and claiming that Conflict Theorists are “ignorant” reveals Mistake Theorists’ role to accept status quo norms and structures designed and maintained by elites and those who support elites’ Divide to Conquer and other anti-democratic norms to block social models more committed to human and environmental health. THAT’s the dominant orthodoxy and how it functions.
Marx’s critique of capitalism has been relevant since first publication. Throughout elites and their patsies have feared Marx’s observations and have designed rebuttals intended to marginalize / belittle critique, of which this lecture is yet another example. Sure there are some wacky illiberal leftists, but they are a tiny if vocal minority and to use them as a foil to suppress calls for structural changes to uproot injustices, that's both illegitimate an example of playing patsy to elites' Divide to Conquer tropes.
Related link >> Cultural Marxism: created by Nazis, pushed by Steve Bannon et al th-cam.com/video/liT7e5M6XfY/w-d-xo.html
@@Brianbeesandbikes I think Marxism attracts the worst people and brings out the worst in them far more egregiously than any other ideology. I'd rather deal with ISIS.
@@dixonpinfold2582 Re "I think Marxism attracts the worst people and brings out the worst in them far more egregiously than any other ideology. I'd rather deal with ISIS." Is your sentiment based on personal experience or reading? Below are a few egs of what socialism / communism has done:
1. Gutted Hitler's army on the eastern front. USA Aids Nazi Fascists / crush leftists … countercurrents.org/2017/08/09/27-million-died-in-russia-because-wall-street-built-up-hitlers-wehrmacht-to-knock-out-soviet-union
2. In USA pivotal in ending child labor, enacting housing, food purity, unions, the right to vote, social security and banking protections. Progressive Era Accomplishments www-personal.umd.umich.edu/~ppennock/Progressive%20Reforms.htm
3. The inspiration for these social programs: Venezuela's Community Councils www.counterpunch.org/2016/12/30/venezuelas-communal-movement
Nicaragua: Why we attack them / how they are creating new social models html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/11830601
As far as ISIS goes, it would not exist wo u$a's "help" bc u$a needs enemies to justify its war machine and perpetual imperialism of other nations.
1. West Made ISIS thediplomat.com/2014/08/iran-didnt-create-isis-we-did/
2. Iran offered and joined u$a’s fight against al Qaeda then u$a flipped th-cam.com/video/k8Zb8615ib0/w-d-xo.html
3. US let ISIS grow (and kill) to destabilize Syria's Assad. Iran stopped it. th-cam.com/video/lKr4ywECOLU/w-d-xo.html
4. CIA Overthrew Iran's Democracy In 4 Days
www.npr.org/2019/01/31/690363402/how-the-cia-overthrew-irans-democracy-in-four-days
@@Brianbeesandbikes Can't be bothered, sorry. Cheers.
@@dixonpinfold2582 so much for an "informed" position ...
Fact: in Spring 2015 the French ministry of health reported 38.6% of newborns in France in 2015 were tested for sickle-cell anemia. They were tested only if both parents' ancestry was from Africa, West Indies or southern India. Replacement of the native population is happening in Western Europe, and you are next, Australia. Race/ethnic competition was not a focus of 18-19th century liberalism. Mill and Jefferson favored separate nation states for ethnic groups.
I'ts EU history of colonialism that has brought this on. Can't have your cake for 100s of years then refuse to be humane about the inevitable clean up ....
I've watched a lot of Centre for Independent Studies talks and you NEED TO BALANCE YOUR AUDIO!!!!! You can hear Claire, but moderator and questioner were all over the auditory map. PLEASE.....
Are we oppressing the people on Mars? Are we racist toward Martians?
the glare.... the diversity is making me blind
I am totally convinced that she really believes this stuff she's reading so poorly.
Sociological Theory 101. Was there anything in this lecture that was new or compelling? Hmmmm. Anyone who's been to uni knows how and why particular facts about the social world are related and how they can be used.
You have the conflict with the weapons not me.., here weapons are not legals,..
Hello, CIS. Forget about making about a libertarian out of Claire Lehmann. She's using you more than you're using her. But I can see why you'd go to the trouble.
Marx; the anti-Santa Claus.
Brain porn. Love it.
A civilisation once existed upon the *planet mars*
Worth baring in mind something not eagerly mentioned!
The *Cuneiform inscriptions* (Tablets) inwhich the bible originated from, may have been disclosing the time line of the events of the planet mar's histor:
The events told as a history lesson of historical seismic events for any galactic, alien, present or future species to recognise, acknowledge, learn and know of the marshan civilisations existence and terrible demise and fateful ending...?
55:36 are you giving example of hate against a trans racial activist because of who he is and what he feels?
I agree on many of your points against conflict theory and was excited to learn more about mistake theory, until I realized it has a huge fundamental flaw that sharply negates its legitimacy.. How can you dismiss emotion and promote discarding empathy when you are trying to create a human social theory? I do not condone excessive emotion, nor do I think anger or other negative emotions should be attempted to be used as driving forces of social change, but I do see emotion as natural. Promoting the attempt to block out empathy and saying that empathy and emotion are inherently bad is pretty absurd. If nothing else, the level of emotion one displays can be used to determine how deeply affected by the issue a person is- the more emotion and empathy being displayed by someone, the more I think they're exposed to or effected by the issue as an individual. I don't think you really understand what empathy is, to just discourage it like that. Empathy is not sympathy- it is what we automatically use to try and understand other people in different situations. Empathy and emotion are natural and so is anger, and the anger affecting individuals in social causes is often just, and we should not be intolerant of it but accepting of it. However, we should try to make sure their anger and emotion doesn't skew their perspective or take away from the cause they're arguing for. And of course we should encourage critical and objective thinking as well as educating people to expose them to other perspectives.
I think it's Bloom's idea is more about acting on compassion rather than empathy. So it's not as callus as she makes it sound. Sam Harris has a good talk about it with Bloom.
@@godfreytomlinson2282 I'll check it out. Hearing her downplay the importance of empathy and emotion in a sociological theory with no context really just sounded so absurd.
Delusion is the new normal.
Hi
Peer review is often BS.
Are you asking about politics to a far leftist that got no idea?
Unfortunately she has very little to say of any real value, over simplifying two different trains of thought into something that they just aren't. Suiting her own narrative is all she is really doing.
No one here's buying that. Save it for your TA.
What up with that woman under the car muscling the transaxle! Doesn't the shop know that it is against insurance regulations to have customers in the shop floor! Especially messing with the dam car as if she is going to somehow fix it!
You are attractive but we don't care about this nonsense. It will soon leave the scene. Get yourself a good solid business and off you go.Get out of academics.
Your critique of "Critical Theory" applies to the 1st Generation (Herbert Marcuse, Theodor Adorno, Max Horkheimer, Walter Benjamin, and Erich Fromm). Many (if not most) North American Academics ascribe to this (particularly Marcuse's version). There is a 2nd generation that seems to get ignored (Jurgen Habermas in particular). In Habermas' work, critical theory transcended its theoretical roots in German idealism and progressed closer to American pragmatism. Critical Theory has grown but not all Critical Theory Enthusiast have grown beyond the 1950's/60's version of it. Don't make such a boogy man out of Post-Modern Neo-Marxism. Marcuse is dead as are Foucault and Derrida. Many of their aged fans are slow to give them up and move on. =)
Conflict theroy and Mistake theroy are a load of bull dust!
This is a straw man. Why not quote from actual Marxists? Marx/Engels himself? Why not examine the claims actually made about conflict and the arguments and evidence for them? This is not someone who wants to get at the truth, but rather just justify to themselves what they want to believe.
I'm only 8 minutes in and already all she has done is set up a string of straw men. The only way it can go from here is downhill.
Within 8 minutes, you started feel your worldview being challenged; thus you decided that she just had to be wrong and, ironically but not surprisingly, made her arguments into straw men yourself.
most people dont even know who marx is let alone conflict theory... thus this is all bs
Although they might have been introduced to the idea of oppression or the patriarchy (the argument being that these are influenced by a Marxist analysis). Have a look at for example everydaydayfeminism. You can quickly find pages that talk about reparations.
No one on Kristallnacht forced anyone to take a quiz on Mein Kampf. If you showed up with bricks that was good enough for the Nazis.