Buying Cheap Oracle Cards Online 🔮 Review 🔮 Wish, Ebay, AliExpress

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  • @NorthernHedgeWitch
    @NorthernHedgeWitch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I was incorrect with the author of the The Universe Has Your Back deck. The author is Gabrielle Bernstein. My apologies.

  • @gemmaro1073
    @gemmaro1073 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    It’s never worth it... it’s stealing money from an artist. (I’m not saying you are saying it is worth it! Since you can’t tell my tone in a text!) but so many deck creators are being robbed and it is wrong.
    If we are supposed to live our lives based off of good morals and good ethics, then purchasing these are wrong.
    Ciro Marchetti refuses to make anymore decks now, due to the amount of counterfeit decks. So Marchetti Tarot he said was his last deck. And some creators are starting to agree.
    So yes we need to support our artists, and deck creators. The work very hard to get to where they are today, counterfeiting their work is just wrong.

  • @arlyf8751
    @arlyf8751 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I actually have the sticking issue with some of my most expensive decks. I've learned that the best way to fix that is with Fanning powder. It works like a charm!! I just do a good cleanse after.

    • @NorthernHedgeWitch
      @NorthernHedgeWitch  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This one deck isn’t even really sticky, it’s that the paint they used to mimic a gilded edge has stuck the cards together I think!

  • @rissagotvideos09
    @rissagotvideos09 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I’m just starting tarot readings; I have reallly small hands and have a hard time shuffling anyways, my hands are a lot smaller than yours. But I think it’s a cheaper way to start out. Then slowly investing in the actual decks, with covid 19 and stuff I just wanted to get a few starter decks.

    • @NorthernHedgeWitch
      @NorthernHedgeWitch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Spill The Tarot Tea if you are unsure, it is definitely a budget friendly way to test it out and see if you like it!

    • @ThePracticalIntuitive
      @ThePracticalIntuitive 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I agree. I have small hands as well and prefer the fake decks. I agree they are not of great quality but in the end, it's all about the reading. We are all intuitive. These are just tools to enhance your gift. Besides, maybe if the creators consider offering 2 sizes, we wouldn't have an issue purchasing authentic decks. 🙂

    • @melissagerber7231
      @melissagerber7231 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Buying these decks literally robs the creator. They're made in factories, under wretched conditions, by people for pennies.
      Not to mention that it's actually illegal to buy stolen property.
      But, hey, its cheaper for you, so what?

  • @bia0001
    @bia0001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I bought lots of originals decks, about three hundred, and it get damage in silver edges after I used them just for myself and three ou four friends...yes, not so much! For small hands, the fakes are so much better, and, girl, I am a actual writer, my two published books are on line for free... what can I do? Be happy, for sure!
    You can always do some bonfire and burn them all! So, dance around the fire!
    Just kidding, dont you take the life so seriously... 😂😂😂

    • @NorthernHedgeWitch
      @NorthernHedgeWitch  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Being happy is the goal! Life is a wonderful ride

  • @antonellatortora8215
    @antonellatortora8215 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I'm a single mom and I'm glad that there is a cheaper version, I love tarot en oracles but I don't have the money to buy them there are so pricey. So I buy my decks on aliexpress!

    • @NorthernHedgeWitch
      @NorthernHedgeWitch  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      we all do what we can. It would be a big disappointment to buy these without realizing their were fake if you were saving up to buy them.

  • @LauraBronson
    @LauraBronson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think its super important to support the artists and buy the genuine decks.
    When people buy the cheaper plagiarised versions, none of the money you spend on the deck goes back to the artist.
    When buying online, always try to buy direct from the artist via their own website or Etsy store, or buy direct from the publisher's website, or a legitimate bookstore listed as a stockist on the publisher's website. It may cost a few dollars more, but you are supporting the artist who has put months or years of work into creating the deck, and you are going to get better quality cardstock that will feel better in your hands and survive many years of use.
    There is also the concept of energy to consider. Most people cleanse their decks before using them, but when you buy an illegitimate deck with stolen artwork, I believe that negative energy is deeply ingrained in the fake cards and sticks with them, even after cleansing. This negative energy comes from the theft and the deception, and probably also the fact they would be printed in factories with poor or dangerous working conditions, and the exploitation of underpaid workers.
    Buying legitimate decks is important for so many reasons. Its never worth it to buy a fake.

  • @nicolereadstarot
    @nicolereadstarot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have legit gilded decks and you have to do the "crack" lol. I bend them from top and bottom for the new book spine crack sound, then inhave to pull each apart with my nails gently. It helps

    • @NorthernHedgeWitch
      @NorthernHedgeWitch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do the real ones feel like you are going to rip the card off the gilding and end up with gilded fingers? I have my eye on some gilded decks, but if they are like these ones then I don't want them!

    • @nicolereadstarot
      @nicolereadstarot 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NorthernHedgeWitch well, the mystic Mondays is thicker card stock, I feel they needed it for the gilding, but I have not had it come off at all. This has some funky printing issues on the cards themselves too though. Got one from barns and noble and returned it because of messed up printing, then noticed it at Spencer's and picked it up and the same card has a messed up printing or cutting so it's not just with knock offs btw. But it seems like the only one of my gilded decks that seem to Frey or flake is the knock off romance angel deck I just got and that was even from amazon. It was out of print and I didnt want to pay legit 70 dollars lol

  • @ladyknightofavalon
    @ladyknightofavalon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    They are even selling the fake ones on amazon now. You can pretty much get most mass market decks. Crazy.

    • @NorthernHedgeWitch
      @NorthernHedgeWitch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      LadyKnight of Avalon I heard! Someone bought moonology on amazon assuming it was real and a fake one arrived! I don’t know how much they paid but I would have been upset

    • @ladyknightofavalon
      @ladyknightofavalon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      For sure. I mean the colors always look so off and the size is so much smaller, no guidebooks. China has really found a new market for this it seems.

    • @Luna_marya
      @Luna_marya 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It has happened to me with the crystal angels. I bought it on Amazon and then I realized was a fake one. 😒

    • @NorthernHedgeWitch
      @NorthernHedgeWitch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mary * were you able to return it? I hope Amazon cracks down on fakes sellers

    • @Luna_marya
      @Luna_marya 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@NorthernHedgeWitch this morning we agreed for a refund.. I mean I don't care if they are fake it's just that I don't want to pay 23 € for something not original

  • @rainbowmoonreadings4541
    @rainbowmoonreadings4541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have small hands to. I hate large decks. I don’t understand why all these people make cards the size of books. Thanks. Great review.

    • @NorthernHedgeWitch
      @NorthernHedgeWitch  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would love to see more oracle cards that are the size of standard tarot cards

  • @sueo3150
    @sueo3150 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can return to Ebay even if the seller does not accept returns. You have to open a ticket (if not sure how, you can get them to contact you and the call back is pretty quick and they have great customer service). When you open a ticket, you will have the ability to explain why you are unhappy with your purchase, and in your case they will some kind of refund (the same thing happened to me with something I purchased and it was fake).

  • @reizyryl
    @reizyryl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Okay so i have original decks and also immitations...And guys i have very small hands had a hard time with original decks

    • @NorthernHedgeWitch
      @NorthernHedgeWitch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I am so glad I am not the only one with small hands who has a hard time with original decks! haha

    • @reizyryl
      @reizyryl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NorthernHedgeWitch and not only that my hands are small..But also quite sensitive to scratches..I got some paper cuts with Spiritsong Tarot original. They're very durable though..It think it will last for more than 10 years..Plus the cards has delightful energy in it. It also has a fake version that won't give you paper cuts...
      I realize my fake decks are not useless... They're okay to use for vlogs but i don't think i would use them with clients hahaha😆

  • @lilnou4u
    @lilnou4u 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So everyone knows if you buy fake tarot or fake oracles on eBay you can actually get them free once they come you report them as counterfeit and you get your money back and then they can crack down on counterfeit product which is “against eBay policy “

    • @NorthernHedgeWitch
      @NorthernHedgeWitch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fake products on Amazon and EBay should definitely be reported! I wonder how this works on Wish when the whole platform is selling counterfeit things

  • @YesThatPrettyGirL
    @YesThatPrettyGirL 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    YEP....I guess “you get what u pay for” is appropriate here - I got these ridiculous knock off cards - SO SMALL 😳
    Lesson learned.
    Thank you ❤️

  • @giraffewhiskers2045
    @giraffewhiskers2045 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So far I’ve only gotten 2 things off Amazon I have the rider Waite that came with a cloth and a pendulum. And for my birthday ( august 15th) I’m getting 2 more things that aren’t cards but the Moonogly oracle cards and the rider Waite aren’t bad, and we do have mystic shops but a lot of closed and some are far
    So I would get them off of there but just make sure to read the reviews

  • @kerriebarney5823
    @kerriebarney5823 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this! I always wondered what the cheaper versions would be like. Now I know and I am extra glad I saved up for the legitimate versions! I figure that if a deck is really supposed to join me on my path it can wait until I can afford it. :)

  • @ghoul6287
    @ghoul6287 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    hi! i really don't know if you're into witchcraft, since this is the only video i saw of yours but i still wanted to ask; can i connect with deities with cheap cards? i don't think so but i want to make sure. i'm a total beginner, i wouldn't even consider myself a baby witch, and i want to start out with something more budget-friendly if it's possible.

    • @NorthernHedgeWitch
      @NorthernHedgeWitch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I am not one to work with deities but cards are simply a tool. There are many ways to connect with deities and what will limit that will not be the authenticity of the cards you choose to work with.

    • @ishaw9894
      @ishaw9894 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you want to work with deities you should meditate or print out a picture talk to them, and if they want to work with you they will come to you in dream or living state. A Hindu goddess and many other came to me but I haven’t worked with them yet. ❤️

  • @leolady2314
    @leolady2314 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    personally I love eBay Decks I cannot get with the big decks because they are hard to shuffle and my hands are really really small so I love the small decks way better than the big decks they still are the same meaning in the same outcome so I don't see what the problem is

    • @NorthernHedgeWitch
      @NorthernHedgeWitch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Taina Luke I definitely prefer smaller decks with my small hands!

    • @Claire_L_W
      @Claire_L_W 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Taina Luke The problem is that the art is stolen. How would you like it if you worked hard and created something and someone came along stole your work and profited off it.

  • @zoej.7008
    @zoej.7008 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, thanks for spreading the word. I totally agree with you, these are cheap imitations. I got tricked before I found your video... As you’re only able to see the face of the box on the picture of the listing, you cannot tell that it's not legit. I bought the Sacred Traveler Oracle. I thought I was buying the real deal, just that I was lucky to have found a seller that wasn't asking much for them... (purchased from Ebay).Totally shocked when I opened my package! Noticed the box format and the size weren't like they should have been. I had seen on other sites how the box looked like and the size was mentioned, regular oracle box and size. The box only has the name of the oracle and name of the author. The publisher isn't mentioned like it is usually. The deck I bought is from Hay House and I know how they do things as I have many other oracles from them. You always have their name and logo and a UPC barcode. On those imitations it’s not written anywhere. Moreover, there was no guidebook. A very nice guidebook comes with this deck; I had seen it too... nothing here. The seller later on told me, that well, I could download the PDF.... The cardstock was of very poor quality, like you’ve shown. Flimsy cards, with uneven shades of color, many defects like indentations, markings, line all across the back of the card, drop of black ink on the face of one of the characters, lack of vibrancy in the colors, etc… a printing done neglectfully. So, I was really upset with my purchase. I will go ahead and buy this deck again, this time from my local metaphysical store or reputable online store. From now on, I'll be very careful when buying online! I'm astonished to see that so many are on the market. They take away from the author, artist and publisher. How are they succeeding to being sold while infringing copyrights? This is like counterfeit money.... I'm surprised that publishers, authors/artists haven't taken action to stop whoever is behind those fake decks. Actually, I also wonder who is doing that. Well, I'll keep my eyes opened, fakes are not for me. If I like a deck I'd rather wait until I can afford it and get the real deal.

    • @NorthernHedgeWitch
      @NorthernHedgeWitch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I am sorry you got a fake deck. Totally disappointed when you are expecting it to be real.
      I buy a lot of my decks directly from Hay House because they frequently have 50% off sales! Practically the same price as the fakes.

    • @zoej.7008
      @zoej.7008 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NorthernHedgeWitch thanks! yep, I found that out recently, I actually bought the "Energy Oracle" deck directly from them and it was cheaper than Amazon and anywhere else :)

  • @neffa101
    @neffa101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t want to buy the knock of once’s how do I make sure this doesn’t happen to me?

    • @NorthernHedgeWitch
      @NorthernHedgeWitch  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Check out this video on the topic: How To Avoid Buying Fake Tarot Decks and Oracle Cards Online
      th-cam.com/video/bh8WtSmiqy8/w-d-xo.html

  • @moonspiritartbycindyhill1084
    @moonspiritartbycindyhill1084 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That what I am doing with my new oracle cards

  • @luizvalle1226
    @luizvalle1226 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I must say these cheap decks are intentionally scams. They are made by deceptive operations without any ethics. Moreover, they are purely contingent on greed. Please don't fall off for these scams.

  • @larissanunes3502
    @larissanunes3502 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The only fake deck I wish I could buy is the Past lives oracle because they aren't making the original and it cost ridiculous amount of money to purchase a used one

    • @NorthernHedgeWitch
      @NorthernHedgeWitch  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have never heard of that deck - I will have to look it up!

    • @larissanunes3502
      @larissanunes3502 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NorthernHedgeWitch is actually called past Life oracle cards by Dooren Virtue and Brian Weiss.

  • @qpqp1593
    @qpqp1593 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thats why DIY TAROT/ORACLE ARE DA BEST

  • @astridvos1102
    @astridvos1102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    do you realize that nobody has an answer on the most important questions about this ? did they arrange copy permission ? is working in the cardmaking industry a good job in the USA ? in China ? do you know we in the Netherlands pay 12 euro nowerdays for all those decks ?

    • @NorthernHedgeWitch
      @NorthernHedgeWitch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Many of the legit cards are still made in China. There are so many things wrong with the manufacturing of so many goods :( I try and be mindful of what I purchase but I can only do so much

    • @astridvos1102
      @astridvos1102 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NorthernHedgeWitch I love your answer

  • @sheenathomas8718
    @sheenathomas8718 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don’t like how they don’t come with guide books so I won’t bye them .they say that there a thing in the back of the box so you can download guide book but then u read all the comments saying it doesn’t work .

    • @NorthernHedgeWitch
      @NorthernHedgeWitch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have been able to access the guide books for some of them - they are just crappy PDF scans

  • @-Ms.L
    @-Ms.L 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You pay for what you get. Always order from your country&state make sure it has a book + is priced even. Ali express took a long time, cheap quality for Oracle Of The Hidden World's by Lucy Cavendish and Past Life Oracle by Doreen Virtue with no booklet or true box. Just like you said my hidden world deck cracked at one corner on all cards upon delivery from freaken CHINA (I know now to check where it is coming from). The past life one's are all edged with gold that flakes. Now I wait to buy do research to know who plus what I'm investing in. I feel the same way you do about buying this crap. Thank you for posting ✌.

    • @cindyp4236
      @cindyp4236 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My decks are not fake. Though I bought Work Your Light Oracle on Amazon, I checked the pictures and it showed the book but, it was the one in the flip top lid with no book and they are flimsy. I couldn't return them as no printer to print the return address but, I was asked to review the cards and I gave a negative review and I am being refunded the $17.20. I could buy these from Wish for $2 - $5 if I wanted them. All my other cards from Amazon have been the real ones with the booklets in them and in the sturdy boxes.

    • @NorthernHedgeWitch
      @NorthernHedgeWitch  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was trying to support a lot more local businesses but when everything shut down it was hard so I bought way too much from Amazon.

    • @cindyp4236
      @cindyp4236 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NorthernHedgeWitch Same here. Shops are closed so I've bought my cards from Amazon. Most have been the original cards as I look and read the descriptions but, the Work Your Light is the cheap ones. They gave me a refund for them when I complained. Been happy with the rest from Amazon

  • @royar2256
    @royar2256 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what do you mean by rip off? they need to buy the copyright to be able to sell!? and they are sold cheap...so what do you mean by rip off?

    • @NorthernHedgeWitch
      @NorthernHedgeWitch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I would love to see proof that these resellers have bought the licensee to sell copyrighted material. Whenever I have confronted an eBay seller about it being fake, they have just refunded my money and not offered any proof that they have a license to sell it. I doubt these artists sold licenses to hundred of random sellers on eBay to mass produce their work.

    • @melissagerber7231
      @melissagerber7231 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ask the creators!They're raving!
      People have the nerve to complain to them about the poor quality, and asking them to send a book for a counterfeit deck that came without one.
      Nobody sold any copyrights.

  • @lalix.trange5127
    @lalix.trange5127 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is it truth that the sellers send you a pdf version of the book, when you bought this kind of deck???

    • @NorthernHedgeWitch
      @NorthernHedgeWitch  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have never received one

    • @lalix.trange5127
      @lalix.trange5127 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NorthernHedgeWitch oh ok Pal.
      thanks for the review

    • @Sam-wm2fs
      @Sam-wm2fs ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. I confirm. You have to scan à QR code to download the booklet.

  • @jennlacock
    @jennlacock 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here is my humble opinion. I have most of those decks. I bought them on Walmart, Barnes and Nobel, as well as Amazon. Seeing the Chakra deck I have, blew my mind away. The card stock is thick and stiff for 1. Number 2. You HAVE to have the book to read the cards. The Chakra deck is based on fables. For people who don't have that book, the maker of the deck has a web series describing the cards. You need to know the story to read them correctly. The size is also shocking, the poor card stock.. wow. I guilded my light seers tarot and when I shuffle it comes off on my hand. I was thinking about ordering another deck to replace it. I know im not getting the cheaper ones now. Honestly, you get what you pay for. Some of those decks need the books. Buying them without the books is sometimes pointless. Im by no means judging. Makes it more difficult to give an accurate reading.

    • @NorthernHedgeWitch
      @NorthernHedgeWitch  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would love to get the real version of the Chakra deck - I didn't know it was based on fables. Very neat!

  • @VLoveCrystals
    @VLoveCrystals 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for doing this!!!

  • @jenlarsfolk2963
    @jenlarsfolk2963 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why don't they come with guide books??

    • @NorthernHedgeWitch
      @NorthernHedgeWitch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      probably because they are more expensive to produce?

    • @jenlarsfolk2963
      @jenlarsfolk2963 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NorthernHedgeWitch Hmmm. I also have several decks purchased locally that are from Hay House and I love them all:) It really seemed odd to receive Oracle cards without the book and I agree with you about the strange feeling of opening the box and it feels like regular playing cards. Solitaire anyone? Lol 🤔

    • @NorthernHedgeWitch
      @NorthernHedgeWitch  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jenlarsfolk2963 I am a solitaire fan. Hahaha. My favourite use for the fake cards is art journaling. Therapeutic and I don’t feel back about cutting up the cards and gluing them into my book

  • @utpaladas9243
    @utpaladas9243 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg i have just ordered moonology deck

  • @TruthIsNot4Sale
    @TruthIsNot4Sale 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You didn’t mention if they have a guidebook that comes with the cards
    If not they are kinda useless at least for beginners

    • @NorthernHedgeWitch
      @NorthernHedgeWitch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is true! They definitely do not have guide books

  • @iseetheWAYVision
    @iseetheWAYVision 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the difference between Oracle and tarot decks?

    • @NorthernHedgeWitch
      @NorthernHedgeWitch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tarot is typically based on the major and minor arcana (and the 4 suits). Oracle decks can be about so much! I do plan on making a video about this soon!

  • @kekamirza
    @kekamirza 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the reading differs if fake deck used?

    • @NorthernHedgeWitch
      @NorthernHedgeWitch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The readings depend on the reader, not necessarily the deck (though many readers will say they connect with certain decks over others which definitely helps)

  • @elkypmtarot9098
    @elkypmtarot9098 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cheaper cards smaller and easier to shuffle!

    • @NorthernHedgeWitch
      @NorthernHedgeWitch  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I felt like this before - but cheaper cards also bend and contort which makes them harder to shuffle in the long run.

    • @elkypmtarot9098
      @elkypmtarot9098 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NorthernHedgeWitch not come across that yet 🙈 but I’ll watch out for it 💜 I’m just getting older and so are my hands 🤣🤣🤣💕

  • @denisembaez
    @denisembaez ปีที่แล้ว

    temu does the same. i prefer the actual cards

  • @dougarnold7955
    @dougarnold7955 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks. 👍

  • @brighteyes6729
    @brighteyes6729 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you

  • @dianefuhrman5970
    @dianefuhrman5970 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you download the booklet it is a fake deck.

  • @Ourladyrosaries
    @Ourladyrosaries 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is amazon ok? Xx

    • @NorthernHedgeWitch
      @NorthernHedgeWitch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Carly Nicholls most of the time but I have stumbled upon a few fake decks on amazon as well! If a deck typically retails for $20 and you find it any less than about $10 (unless it’s on the publisher’s website on sale or used), it’s probably not real

  • @nomorelies4253
    @nomorelies4253 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a few and i got my on ebay

  • @SunShine-zt1ge
    @SunShine-zt1ge 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    And don't forget fb and other shopping apps

  • @JENNY-kh3to
    @JENNY-kh3to 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    THE RESULT IS POOR....WHAT YOU PAY, IS WHAT YOU GET...🌷

  • @TheVictorzai
    @TheVictorzai 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great content

  • @denisembaez
    @denisembaez ปีที่แล้ว

    gabby bernstien mot kim kranz